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Re: Echo Archives
« Reply #660 on: June 25, 2021, 05:46:35 AM »
Watching the Gifs it's amazing the level of depth that is added going from flat colour to fully shaded. It highlights how important shading is for perspective and overall shape. Moreover, you have expertly shaded and coloured using the fire as the light source in that first image, which is a detail that lazier artists often forget.

I suppose a question this raises would be how do you work out where to put shading when you are working on your pieces? Is it just something you know instinctively from experience, do you have to work it out by trial and error, or do you have references that you work from?

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« Reply #661 on: June 25, 2021, 06:18:59 PM »
Ahhhhh now I've matched DA to name omg
I'm not a big commenter but I watch you on there and regularly check your work out. Nice nice. Lovely clean lines :>
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« Reply #662 on: June 28, 2021, 08:07:01 PM »
Wow, these are fantastic! I only recently got into fantasy drawings and these stuff are inspirational; i'm really itching to start drawing after seeing these! More specifically, the different angles and details you put on the clothes in the study is something I'm seriously taking notes on! Super great stuff, looking forward to your next post!

Why thank you! ^^ I'm honoured. I hope they are helpful and I wish you the best in your art!

I do have to give you major props for your clothing work Echo! You have a knack for making it look both functional and cool, which is a line often wavered from in manga.

Thanks Coryn! I'm glad. Yeah, that's something that I've noticed in manga too lol. What's helped with that is thinking if the clothes can be bought from a store or not.

Wow, Echo. You've really come a long way since I've been out. This stuff is like, super pro level as far as I'm concerned. Your pencil work still has a lot of life in it that I've always loved, and your digital stuff is crisp and fresh. The variation in line weight goes a long way. You've really settled into your own. Wish I could say the same, haha, but you've been working hard, and you get the payoff on that, and my lazy butt gets exactly what I put in. :sure:

Thanks so much, Mahlua! :D Yo, it's taken a long time to get to my current style. I still remember the times I used to despair over it way back when. So s'long as you keep moving forward, you'll get somewhere too! c:

I suppose a question this raises would be how do you work out where to put shading when you are working on your pieces? Is it just something you know instinctively from experience, do you have to work it out by trial and error, or do you have references that you work from?

A little bit of all of those, I would say? Sometimes I'm pretty clueless as well and not always paying attention to light sources. For these two, since I was experimenting, it was definitely more reference, using the video, Pinterest, and even myself.

Cyan's jacket, for instance, I took of photo of myself XD We didn't have a coat with the material I had in mind, so I had to improvise T-T But in this way, I got a look that was way more natural than if I had tried to wing it through imagination.

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I think that's the other side of shading as well. Sometimes, I find, trying to making it look realistic doesn't always make it look pretty. So there's a middle ground where you have to balance reality and aesthetic to get the look you want.

Ahhhhh now I've matched DA to name omg
I'm not a big commenter but I watch you on there and regularly check your work out. Nice nice. Lovely clean lines :>

Haha thank you! \o/ Yeah, I started watching you a while back too. I recognize your art right away ^^
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Re: Echo Archives
« Reply #663 on: June 29, 2021, 12:02:03 PM »
A wild Echo appeared! Lol. For real though, striking a pose and taking a photo of yourself is one of the best art hacks that a lot of people (newer artists at least) have convinced themselves is cheating. But it's definitely one of the tricks you eventually learn is super common and accepted.

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« Reply #664 on: July 09, 2021, 10:44:09 PM »
@Coryn That'd be like saying that having people model for you is cheating O: But... how are you supposed to know anything you draw is accurate if you don't reference it...?  :hmm: Lol. Yeah, I have a whooole folder of self-references now. I think I started doing it more after not being able to successfully search up the poses that I wanted X'D


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Roun sketch:


Been experimenting with backgrounds lately.

In this one, I belatedly discovered how useful the select tool is for doing straight things, which seems obvious when you think about it, but I'm so used to traditional that even using the simple tools for backgrounds doesn't come to mind right away ^^;



This one started out as a warm-up sketch, but I got carried away and wanted to add more setting... which meant I had to pay a little more attention to perspective and lighting... but I liked how it turned out :)



Since it has been raining these past few days (following a brutal heat wave X_X) I got in the mood to draw this character, Demon, whom I tend to associate with rain because he carries an umbrella around.



And another painty practice drawing. Last time, I forgot to put the character names for the other two. This character, Relz, is their colleague. The three of them work together in Special Ops. These are their original designs that I drew in 2016  :ohmy:

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Relz was a little difficult to draw  :( Originally I was going to have him in a sleeveless hoodie. Ended up switching to the older outfit design so I could avoid drawing arm muscles :') Also, because his hair is white, I had to figure out how to do the shading and highlighting... As for his ability, CLIP helped a lot for that. There might have been an easier way, but I basically traced a grid, blurred the lines, and set them to glow (I like glowwy things). Glad I finished this piece~



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« Reply #665 on: July 10, 2021, 05:54:27 PM »
So very cool :D I think you're pretty good with fabric. Looks on point always.
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« Reply #666 on: July 12, 2021, 12:23:42 PM »
The glow is fun! It's very tron-esk in execution.

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« Reply #667 on: August 03, 2021, 03:18:54 AM »
those are some really nice pieces!

yup the select tool is super useful for straight lines, I tend to use the lasso tool, and using shift/ctrl combos click to create straight selections. As you probably discovered you can use the "add to selection" option to create more complex straight edge shapes with just a rectangle seelct.

The ambience in the cafe one is so nice, like he's chatting with an old friend, but its in the POV of the person, so I feel like I'm the old friend. Very connecting with the viewer piece, I love it.

tiny critique if you dont mind me mentioning - watch out for vanishing points, the bottom half has a perfect set of lines but the wall/window doesn't follow the same point. I did an overdraw if you don't mind.
Red is your lines extended, blue is what i think is correct.
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the dark one is pretty cool, lovely the dark swirly effects.

and the techno hacker vibe one is really awesome.
great highlights on the hair, great shading on the face and clothes, and very cool effect.

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There might have been an easier way, but I basically traced a grid, blurred the lines, and set them to glow
tbh that's the way I would have done it, in fact the moment I saw it I thought "hmmm, a blurred grid...that's cool"
You needn't have traced it manually though, you could either cut out the parts you didn't want, or use selection tools to select the squares of the grid you wanted and make a new layer with just those parts. But maybe that's what you did anyway.

lovely stuff.
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