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Author Topic: Coryn's: Quick and Easy Guide to the MR Canon  (Read 82350 times)

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Re: Coryn's: Quick and Easy Guide to the MR Canon
« Reply #450 on: December 29, 2018, 06:40:20 PM »
There is that nebulous canonisity, yeah. But at this point I feel it's so worked into other things that it has to matter.

Ah well, I'll do something that validates it and invalidates it all at once.

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Re: Coryn's: Quick and Easy Guide to the MR Canon
« Reply #451 on: January 08, 2019, 09:01:24 AM »
Do you remember the Retcon Forest? I just stumbled onto it while doing homework and I thought it may offer a solution. Dystop was referred to within it as well.

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Re: Coryn's: Quick and Easy Guide to the MR Canon
« Reply #452 on: January 08, 2019, 11:30:24 AM »
I do recall it. I also recall it disappeared from the DOTS thread? It could be useful.

Honestly, more and more I think that the proper way to do it is have DOTS wrap up with everyone getting spit back to the moment before we first hit the remote. Memories intact, but otherwise unmolested by the time we spent influenced by the thing.

Of course, that would involve actually putting a cap on the thing.

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Re: Coryn's: Quick and Easy Guide to the MR Canon
« Reply #453 on: January 08, 2019, 11:38:09 AM »
Epic final conclusion arc incoming:

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Re: Coryn's: Quick and Easy Guide to the MR Canon
« Reply #454 on: January 08, 2019, 11:41:03 AM »
Honestly though, the one we started a few months back would probably serve as a solid base if we wanted it to.

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Re: Coryn's: Quick and Easy Guide to the MR Canon
« Reply #455 on: January 08, 2019, 06:20:57 PM »
It's funny cause I remember taking a glance at the Retcon forest piece back when Dots was really active. And then years later, after finally deciding to tear through DOTS in one read, I couldn't find the damn thing. Good to know you still got it saved after all these years.

And yeah, I think that arc we had going would be a great place to start. I still got so many ideas for that damn thing too. Once my other obligations are fulfilled, I'm going to be giving DOTS some more attention again.

But DOTS ending would kinda suck though. Then again, all great things come to an end eventually.

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Re: Coryn's: Quick and Easy Guide to the MR Canon
« Reply #456 on: January 08, 2019, 10:28:21 PM »
I think, more than anything, is that it's lived its natural life at this point. We had some good times, but it needs a send off. There should be an end to all things, no matter how sweet they were in life.

Of course, there's nothing saying we can't ressurect the concept if we so desire.

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Re: Coryn's: Quick and Easy Guide to the MR Canon
« Reply #457 on: January 09, 2019, 01:25:49 AM »
Amen to that. I only enjoy things especially because they end anyways.

Mortal Combat still had some days in it but it's conclusion turned out to be very important to being canonized in one form or another.

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Re: Coryn's: Quick and Easy Guide to the MR Canon
« Reply #458 on: February 02, 2019, 09:21:07 AM »
Ah man, I have got to share this story, because I was on an absolute trip last night.

So this was a dream, right? Let's get that out of the way. But I'll skip the regular dream retelling nonsense that usually comes along with this kind of thing, because only part of it is important.


Basically, this was a dream that was set in canon MR. A small time metal band was doing a gig in a park, and I had let them borrow my car to help move equipment. Post gig I let take the car to get their equipment home, but they next morning my car is still missing. I figure they must still have it, which I still figure is fine, but I suddenly realize I don't know how to get ahold of them.

So I rush out to the site of the concert, and I find a note. Saying that the car can be found by going to @whatever (just some Twitter handle basically). Of course now dream me and real me are a little too close together, because now I'm pissed because "that's not a real address I can just go to!" Thinking it should have been like a real world physical street address.

So then I wake up, and immediately realize how much sense it actually made for them to just leave their Twitter handle, because in the logic of MR canon, a Twitter page would be a real place that you could physically be!

Sometimes I think we're all actually geniuses for coming up with this thing.

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Re: Coryn's: Quick and Easy Guide to the MR Canon
« Reply #459 on: March 08, 2019, 10:13:23 PM »
Like a dream come true, eh, mate?

Anyway, glad that whole hot mess was figured out. That will certainly help with Reset, which canonically takes place a lil before the Invasion hooplah, given my most recent addition to that tidbit. I still haven't actually utilized the thing I'm referencing... HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE.
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Re: Coryn's: Quick and Easy Guide to the MR Canon
« Reply #460 on: March 09, 2019, 03:11:45 AM »
Honestly between Reset, LAS:FC, and Quest!, I feel like we're slowly and retroactively filling in a lost chunk of the timeline. I don't think it's ever been the case where we jump so solidly ahead without finishing what had been started before (at least without having abandoned it first)

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Re: Coryn's: Quick and Easy Guide to the MR Canon
« Reply #461 on: May 18, 2020, 03:53:01 PM »
Well guys, thanks to some input by Suuper, I have been giving some serious thought to what you might call the "plot" of MR Canon. Here is what I've come up with.

To be frank, this was a somewhat difficult task. Thanks to the very nature of MR Canon (a bunch of independent creators all telling the stories they want to tell in a shared universe), there really isn't what you might consider a traditional 'main plot line'. Nobody ever sat down, gathered everyone together and said: "MR Canon is going to be about this thing. It will start here and end there.", because of course no one did. That was never the intention. MR Canon is basically a mass of parallel character stories all coming together to make a somewhat contiguous whole.

That being said, I think I have identified what we might be able to call 'the plot'.

This will probably not come as a surprise to anyone who is already invested in the canon, but the overriding conflict of MR Canon could be said to be Person vs Person. Our protagonists (the raiders of MR) are dreamers and idealists who believe in creative freedom and self determination. They are storytellers and creators who want to bring a unique voice to the world. On the other side of that we have our antagonists (the corporation 4Kids and their ilk), who want to turn media into something bland, consumable, and inoffensive to those in power. While no longer a major player in our real world (bankruptcy will do that to a company), they still serve as a stand in to represent the Disneys and prime time network televisions of the world. The corporations who value the revenue brought in from pumping out an endless parade of sameness, instead of elevating original and interesting voices and ideas.

It's the modern underdog fight of the independent versus the corporate. The mom & pop coffee shop being displaced by Starbucks. Your small company that pays its workers well getting swallowed by some giant corporate conglomerate no one has ever heard of, only to have all the managers fired and replaced by some guy in New York who knows the new owner's son.

With that in mind, I started separating out the stories which contributed to that story, and those that did not.

Now, while many stories will mention the 'plot', they aren't necessarily important for understanding the 'plot'. Those will be cut from this first list. However well written or enjoyable they may be, they can be considered side stories adjacent to the main one.

For now I am also leaving in stories which won't deal with the 'plot' directly, but contain major world building events or are pivotal 'Ur texts' which contributed significantly to our understanding of what MR Canon is (themes, tone, etc.). Don't worry, this list will get paired down later. So sit tight for now if you're still looking for something more concise.



List 1: Ur Texts, World Building, and 'The Plot':

1. MR Advertisement- By Animedoodler. This is the OG, proto MR Canon document. It's a short manga for the original anthology project. Take note of a specific panel showing a physical representation of MangaRaiders that basically started it all.
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,2218.0.html

2. Manga Raiders: Origins - By Animedoodler. Unfinished (therefore not official canon), but is the first time a real story was being told. Helped the rest of us conceptualize the idea.
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,2505.0.html

3. MR Sentai Go! - By Litt. Again unfinished and not canon, but this is the story that set the standard for what MR Canon would be. It not only introduces 4Kids, but names them as our antagonists. Per canonical rules, a story must be finished to be canon, but this one has been referenced back to so many times that not only should it be considered canon, but you can actually envision how the story might have ended by reading later works and seeing the things attributed to it.
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,3173.0.html

4. Darling be Home Soon - By Coryn (hi). This is the first story to delve into the idea of the tans of MR (which before had existed only as artwork on the forum). It also is the first to dig into the inner workings of 4Kids.
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,4709.0.html

5. Origin Stories - Various authors. Is actually a collection of, you guessed it, origin stories from various forum members for their MR Canon personas. Written at various times, most only contribute to individual character stories, but others get into some real deal world building. I'll narrow down which are which later, but all are important for establishing the main players of MR Canon (as you can imagine, those of us who took time to write one of these were those of us already writing MR Canon. http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,5074.0.html

6. Dystopic Blades 2 - By Lego. As the name implies, there was a Dystopic Blades 1, but the second story in the series is the only one that matters to MR Canon. A short summary of Dystopic Blades 1 would be: All the raiders fight each other in a big battle royal in a universe completely unrelated to anything we've seen so far. It's a fun time, but the sequel has a quick round-up of the original at its beginning, so don't worry about it too much unless you're looking to be a completionist.
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,6308.0.html

7. Ascend to Modhood - By Coryn. Here we get the introduction of non-founder moderators and a little bit about how they work.
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,6419.0.html

8. Lego Gets A Job - By Lego. This one is notable for expanding the world somewhat, but mostly for bringing more tans into the picture. Also culminates with Lego becoming a moderator.
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,6925.0.html

9. Welcome to Manga Raiders - By Coryn. Another character is introduced, some world building. Notable for being the first audio only story.
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,8792.msg157720.html#msg157720

10. The Daily Lives of Tans - By Coryn. A tie in story to a contest to create a new tan. World builds, and introduces the last of the tan line-up.
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,17862.0.html

11. MRverse: The Return of The Drifter - By Fro. Notable for world building and the introduction of a new division of raiders.
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,18918.0.html

12. MR: War Arc: Invasion - By Coryn, Fro, Lego, and Mahlua. This is the big mac daddy of MR Canon so far. It's the first thing you could call an active attempt at a real plot arc. This is the story that kicks off War Arc. It's designed so you don't have to read the previous canon stories to get the idea of what's happening, but know that this one builds on all the ones that came before.
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,19407.0.html

13. MR: War Arc (continued) - By various authors. These are just the various side stories and bits and bobs of the War Arc story, so I won't be making a new line item for each. All will ultimately be important to telling the self enclosed story of MR: War Arc. For now I am assuming that if you've gotten this far into MR Canon, then you're going to be keeping track of all of this, even if you've only read the 12 stories listed previous.
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,19535.0.html
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,19663.0.html
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,19783.0.html
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,19680.0.html
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,19789.0.html
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,19784.0.html

So those are stories that are the 'plot', for lack of a better term. Obviously there are things in canon that are not covered by this list. Every story contributed in some way to the whole. But that is why we have the guide and loremasters for those of you who really want to get down into the weeds. Hopefully though, the list above is sufficiently pared down for someone who is looking to get the most story and understanding out of MR Canon as they can in the least amount of time possible.

That being said, even though the above only represents about a quarter of all MR Canon content, I recognize that it's still a pretty daunting task to read the roughly two dozen stories I listed out. What's the modern raider on the go to do? Well lucky for you, I have the list of "MUST READS" below. The following is the absolute bare minimum for what you must read in order to understand exactly what the hell MR Canon's 'plot' is all about, and where it currently stands.



List 2: 'The Plot' Only Reading List of MR Canon:

1. MR Sentai Go! - By Litt
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,3173.0.html

2. Darling Be Home Soon - By Coryn
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,4709.0.html

3. MR: War Arc: Invasion - By Coryn, Fro, Lego, and Mahlua
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,19407.0.html


And that's it. Those are the three stories that must be read if you want to get the absolute bare bones cliff notes  version of the MR Canon 'main plot' (Told you there wasn't much of one). As detailed above, there are plenty of other stories that fall under what could be considered the 'main plot'. And outside of that 'plot' there are pages and pages of gold medal story telling to fill the world with flavor. But if you decide that you want to get into MR Canon, these three stories are the essentials of the 4Kids story line. MR Sentai Go! introduces us to our world, and sets the tone for stories to come. Darling Be Home Soon raises the stakes of the conflict and shows us what 4Kids is capable of. MR: War Arc: Invasion is the culmination of all the stories told before, and sets up the the first truly thought through plot arc in MR Canon's history. I can't make it any simpler. Obviously some stories in the first list which involved 4Kids were cut, but this second list is for taking away everything that isn't absolutely essential. Will you still have questions at the end if you only read these three? Yes, almost certainly. But you'll get the gist, and that first list will always be there, beckoning you forth if you still yearn for more.

Read these stories, get pumped. There's more where that came from.



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On a final note, I of course apologize to anyone who wrote a story they would consider essential, but didn't make it to the final list (or the first list). We all love our babies. You know that I love you and what you do, and nothing will change that.  :heart:
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Re: Coryn's: Quick and Easy Guide to the MR Canon
« Reply #462 on: May 19, 2020, 06:04:03 AM »
ugh
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thanks to the utter incompetence of Suuper

I feel legally and contractually obliged to read all of this now. Thankfully I've got the time in lockdown so I'll have a shot at everything.

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Re: Coryn's: Quick and Easy Guide to the MR Canon
« Reply #463 on: May 19, 2020, 09:22:32 AM »
haha. Well no problem man! It's not like you're the first person to get put off by the shear volume of material we've collectively generated over the years. You're just the only one who has kept reiterating their desire!

I've linked the post to the opening post of the topic as well, so hopefully it will help people in the future as well. Granted, after War Arc eventually gets wrapped up I'll probably have to add to the short list, so right now is as good as it's going to get!

However you feel about either list though, I suggest hitting stories 1 and 2 of List 1, then jumping into List 2. I say this only because MR Advertisement and MR Origins will take you like 15 minutes to get through, so you might as well hit them first. Like I said, while they are super important to the canon's development, they aren't actual 'canon', so I couldn't justify putting them on the second list.

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Re: Coryn's: Quick and Easy Guide to the MR Canon
« Reply #464 on: June 12, 2021, 07:08:24 AM »
Bookmarking that post for future reference. I still have a bit of catching up to do from my first foray, and if I'm going to continue writing, I should at least know what's going on. And don't worry, I'm not at all upset that most of my side stories didn't make the cut for canon. Between all of this and Reset (yes I'm going to revive that thing is2g), I sure got my work cut out for me.
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