Where Bleach should have ended?

[legomaestro]

It's been done a lot of times actually. Maybe the time was just right for the bleach manga.

I think the potential it has/had is what made it one of the big three. There are so so many suggestions/theories on what direction the story should've/could've taken to become a great manga and/or anime. Lawd knows I've driven myself crazy thinking up alternate ways the story could've been handled and carried.

[Lumaria]

Because it was awesome before it's flaws weighed it down. Those first 54 episodes were awesome. Shiningami in their flowing kimonos, Rukia, Ichigo and the captains. Bankai man. The fights, Kenpachi, the hollow appearing. That was a strong start like no one's business. It just petered off.

One Piece has wow moments yes, but its start is slow. The art scared me off.

Naruto I never properly got introduced to it, but I think it started pretty well and fast, and strong.

One Piece grew out much better as the years progressed, followed by Naruto. Bleach clearly had some planning problems and lost favour along the way.

And, my personal opinion is that while Bleach has glaring flaws, I'm still a big fan.

i think at this point, Bleach's original concept was too well designed and too focused on a central theme (shinto religion and japan) that it was hard not to be a fan of. and even the arrancar arc was amazing. but the moemnt ulquiorra dies, and thats where the entire story gets rushed.

[WhiteCrow]

That is something that I agree with Lorenx on.

As soon as Ulquiorra died EVERYTHING just went 2000 mph... suddenly the big brute that Ulquiorra had to PROTECT is revealed to be Espada 0... lame. And as I stated before, Ichigo went from unknowingly hollowfying to defeat Ulquiorra, to suddenly learning his ultimate form in a matter of like 3 hours.

[legomaestro]

Yes, definitely.

I suspect Ichigo works best when the world doesn't revolve around him. It'd be a nice and reasonable thing if defeating Ulquiorra was his job and that's it, he's tired for the rest of the battle. I mean there is no justifying Aizen spanking every enemy out there, and then just because Ichigo is the MC having him be defeated by him.

Ugh, frustration headache from Bleach returning again

Ichigo's hollowification was brilliant though. It was a cheat and he lost that fight, but it was cool to see.

[Hanabi]

I had to check out of curiosity, but thought it might have been riding on Death Notes success.
Turns out Bleach came out 2001 and Death Note in 2003. Witch might have given him enough boost to get sloppy after Death Notes success(shinigami theme).

It's like, he didn't have to try. He'd make bank no matter what.

But that's just my conspiracy theory

What year was it when Ulquiorra died? I mean when was the chapter published? 

[legomaestro]

The volume was released October 2, 2009

http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/HEART

[Hanabi]

Hmmm.. Death Note ended in 2006.

Maybe he got bored? Tho I'm surprised his editors didn't tell him to actually work on the story more.

[legomaestro]

His editors let him use that Izanagi gimmick was impressive negligence as well >.>

[Lumaria]

Yes, definitely.

I suspect Ichigo works best when the world doesn't revolve around him. It'd be a nice and reasonable thing if defeating Ulquiorra was his job and that's it, he's tired for the rest of the battle. I mean there is no justifying Aizen spanking every enemy out there, and then just because Ichigo is the MC having him be defeated by him.

Ugh, frustration headache from Bleach returning again

Ichigo's hollowification was brilliant though. It was a cheat and he lost that fight, but it was cool to see.

Mastering hollowfication was great, and it looked like a second stage to hollowfication was being hinted. but we dont see it.

[legomaestro]

Yeah a great shame really. He just got absorbed in that training world or whatever...