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Re: Writers Workshop General Discussion
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2014, 12:29:07 PM »
Hm, so first thing would be the new work shop suggestions I guess. If we're going with the 8 workshop Idea I guess 8 workshops need to be suggested. I wonder if they should all be over a different genre?


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Re: Writers Workshop General Discussion
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2014, 12:29:38 PM »
Nevermind making a new topic, I'll just post here.

As me and Lego discussed earlier, a workshop group based around productivity is needed. Something where
15 - 24 page short stories/one shots are produced by each member monthly. The point of this is that if you're in a group that's working hard you'll work hard as well, or you're fellow members will pressure you into doing. Might sound a little silly but I honestly need something like this to get me more active, MR needs something like this.
Other rules are that if you fail to meet a deadline you're given a strike. Once you get 3 strikes you're kicked and only aloud back if you submit a 100 page short story within a year (or 60 pages in 3 months if you can do that).

So there you have it, a workshop of Brutality.

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Re: Writers Workshop General Discussion
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2014, 12:39:51 PM »
Purely writing or like making story boards or something? There I'm not clear. I'd prefer to just write prose.

Also, I always say it's better to count by word count than something like pages. Unless a specific font and font size is mentioned

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Re: Writers Workshop General Discussion
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2014, 12:46:52 PM »
Sorry, I meant drawn pages, finished works xD It's the same as what they did back during the birth of modern manga. We could start small though with like 12 - 16 pages if it's too much. There'd be halfway check points though that would happen within the group. If you want to draw storyboards then you submit the finished storyboard half way though the month, but if you don't you submit half the story. Why I say this is because it's easier to draw the manga when you know what you're drawing directly.

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Re: Writers Workshop General Discussion
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2014, 01:01:47 PM »
That seems to be something for the artists workshop then. I'd definately go for 12 pages to make absolutely sure that I'll be able to finish it

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Re: Writers Workshop General Discussion
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2014, 01:23:07 PM »
I'm thinking the workshops should be in different areas of writing as Nair said. It'd be better for improving for specific genres and it's always nice to have a theme.

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Re: Writers Workshop General Discussion
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2014, 01:56:51 PM »
True that. I'll just go ahead and try suggesting some

1. Characterisation Workshop.
 Aimed at making good characters. Even if you write an action tale make your character stand out by how he interacts with people. Excercises could involve working with character archetypes and modifying them to make them interesting somehow. (Heroes with strange vices, Villains who act good e.t.c)

2. Dialogue Workshops.

Make strong convincing dialogue. Train to make different character sound unique from eachother in the way of speech.

3. Technical Workshops.
Make settings more realistic or accurate. Train yourself to be able to ground your story in some amount of reality before you twist facts here and there.

4. Draft Polishing workshops.
 Work up a script from a very rough draft collectively till you come up with a final copy. The workshop would focus on techniques for pointing errors, grammatical checks and ways to cut out the fluff and streamline the story. An example would be to simply let's say take a chapter from any one of your stories, or write something. It would be more discussion based than most, rather than just posting and being finished then and there.

5. Comedy Workshops

6. Action Workshops.

7. Romance

8. Horror/Seinen mature themes.

Of course, while keeping them within the bounds of the forum.



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Re: Writers Workshop General Discussion
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2014, 04:15:14 PM »
This sounds like a good idea. Although I think that instead of making storyboards what the writers should produce would be normal scripts (or novel styled stories) and we should make a seperate workshop for storyboards... dunno though, what do you guys think?

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Re: Writers Workshop General Discussion
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2014, 04:29:30 PM »
There's actually a workshop about that. It could be revamped. It's all about making storyboards and stuff. All things like writing scripts and converting it into 'Names' as they call them could be done there.

I think Kage's idea works better as an artist workshop, but wherever it lands I'm willing to do it.

 

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Re: Writers Workshop General Discussion
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2014, 01:12:52 PM »
Good idea with the workshops, I know I need practice in a few lot of areas!
Anyway, even if everyone's done this:
1. As a writer, what kind of workshops are you looking for?
Workshops that motivate me to write (having other people doing the same is good, it makes me want to write better than them), teach me new techniques and are still interesting.

2. What motivates you to do them.?
Improving as a writer and learning more about others' style of writing.
3. If there was an arbitrary point system for the writers section alone (Let's say I post a topic with badges given to those who've completed workshops) Would you feel more motivated to write? Hmm. . . Pokemon-type badges (as mentioned before) would be good, as would the 8 workshops every week/month themed around one thing. People might stress out if there was a time limit/order but I think this would work well to motivate me and others!
Nevermind making a new topic, I'll just post here.

As me and Lego discussed earlier, a workshop group based around productivity is needed. Something where
15 - 24 page short stories/one shots are produced by each member monthly. The point of this is that if you're in a group that's working hard you'll work hard as well, or you're fellow members will pressure you into doing. Might sound a little silly but I honestly need something like this to get me more active, MR needs something like this.
Other rules are that if you fail to meet a deadline you're given a strike. Once you get 3 strikes you're kicked and only aloud back if you submit a 100 page short story within a year (or 60 pages in 3 months if you can do that).

So there you have it, a workshop of Brutality.
I would enjoy that, for as long as I could keep it up. . . It might even cure my procrastination habits. :P

I'll stop procrastinating soon! Probably. . .

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Re: Writers Workshop General Discussion
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2014, 02:17:51 PM »
Go here for that workshop methinks http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,10906.msg177321/topicseen.html#msg177321

By the way as Hasith has a topic that talks about things like this, so suggest here or there  http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php?topic=10961.msg177198;topicseen#msg177198

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Re: Writers Workshop General Discussion
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2014, 11:53:46 AM »
-snippity snip-
By the way as Hasith has a topic that talks about things like this, so suggest here or there  http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php?topic=10961.msg177198;topicseen#msg177198
The link isn't working for me -  I assume it's because I'm not allowed access.  :thumbsdown:

I'll stop procrastinating soon! Probably. . .

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Re: Writers Workshop General Discussion
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2014, 02:32:03 PM »
That's... odd. It should be visible >.> it's in announcements/promo

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Re: Writers Workshop General Discussion
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2014, 02:35:26 PM »
Silly Lego, you've been a mod so long you've forgotten Promo is a restricted zone.

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Re: Writers Workshop General Discussion
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2014, 02:37:19 PM »
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