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Comics and other Gallery / Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Last post by legomaestro on Today at 12:43:57 AM »
Yeah working with 3d shapes is doing me some favours at least.

Not satisfied as I'd like to be to be honest. With every new milestone I see the ocean of how much more I have to put in work for and it's just ugh to be honest. The good thing about regimens though is that I don't necessarily need to be motivated to do them so that's a plus.

I suspected a long break again so I'm starting 1,000 cars for now until I have a definitive plan on what I want to do next.

100/1,000 Cars

Members Manga / Re: Legends of Ocelot
« Last post by stardustpink on May 06, 2021, 02:51:26 PM »

Comics and other Gallery / Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Last post by NO1SY on May 06, 2021, 04:21:23 AM »
congratulations Lego!

Especially good looking practice with this last 1000 figures. The block style seems to really work well for you in terms of proportions, dynamism and perspective.

How do you feel?
Comics and other Gallery / Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Last post by legomaestro on May 06, 2021, 03:17:19 AM »
1000/1000 Figures

With that my regimen batches are all done. I'm thinking I'll take a break to work on my projects now. Been a wild rush but I'm glad I got stuff done.
General Manga writer discussions / Re: Dune... confused me...
« Last post by NO1SY on May 05, 2021, 04:23:37 PM »
Now that is some interesting context!
General Manga writer discussions / Re: Dune... confused me...
« Last post by Coryn on May 05, 2021, 01:02:44 PM »
I think you're on the right track. To vastly, vastly oversimplify the point, it seems the golden path boils down to "don't have heroes". Leto II spends 4000 years making himself both loved and hated, all trying to get to the point where humanity will never out their faith in a single, strongman leader again (clearly Trumpers are not Dune readers). I draw the presidential connection because of Herbert's real life views on Richard Nixon. Nixon was famously corrupt, he's the reason hacks on the internet have decided every controversy needs to be called blank-gate for goodness sake. But he was Herbert's favorite president, because as Herbert told it, 'he taught Americans not to trust the government'. I don't think it's a coincidence that all that was happening at the same time Herbert was working on the series.
General Manga writer discussions / Re: Writer Discussion Table
« Last post by Vacant on May 05, 2021, 09:12:07 AM »
Well... you could pull a Sanderson and have two prologues...!

Sometimes a way to deal with this kind of situation is to show the character at the highest high point during the prologue, do not show their fall at all yet, then have them at their lowest during the first chapter. This large contrast can do a lot of the heavy lifting in making sure readers feel the impact. You can then go back after-the-fact to fill in the details of the fall - through flashbacks or discussions with other characters (past acquaintances, those affected by their actions, their victims, those that used to idolize them etc) or just through self reflection comparing present to past. It's a more long-term way of writing the scenario, but it progresses the actual plot more quickly.

And the other way I've seen it done is to just not have a time-skip at all... just write it all out!

That's really intrigued me. I like the idea of the "hard cut" from the peak to their valley so to speak. I'm going to try and look at it from that approach and see what happens. Thanks man!  :thumbsup:

both ways are valid, but since the entire fall is essentially backstory to your actual story, it boils down to how long you want your intro to be.

One of my current stories has so much backstory I struggled finding a good palce to start from since I filled out the past more than my actual story plot.

A decent idea that I'm trying to do is put in the backstory bit by bit as flashbacks and so on.

I like NO1SEY's idea of ending the prologue on a high and then cutting striaght into the low in the next chapter. Just maknig the difference clear and that there was a fall from grace and you can fill in the missing story as you go.

Yeah, I've never been keen on writing flashbacks in prose form. But i think they're effective when done right. I feel they could work in the story if I smash them at the start of each new chapter, make it a narrative thread that we build upon each new chapter.

Thanks guys, you've sparked some new ideas for me and a different angle of approach.
General Manga writer discussions / Re: Dune... confused me...
« Last post by NO1SY on May 05, 2021, 04:39:57 AM »
No! And if you did it pales in comparison to the content of Heretics!

I think you are correct, the Bene Gesserit do fall into the same patterns and pitfalls as everyone else in their attempts to shape humanity across the universe. It is explored a lot in Chapter House, but to me felt almost forgotten about in Heretics to the point that they seem like a group fighting for righteousness, even though it is only self-righteousness...

Spoilers for the first 3 or 4 books....
Conversely I’m not sure how much I agree with you about Paul. We find out that he saw the Golden Path (although I am unsure if this was the path of the Jihad or the path without the Jihad...), tried his hardest to make decisions that would not lead to universal conflict, then came to the realisation of the necessity for metamorphosis and could not bring himself to do it (possibly because of the emotional impact of losing Chani and him realising that he couldn’t deal with loneliness for thousands of years, which even Leto II struggled with.). Part of Paul’s deep sadness towards the end is that he has deferred the responsibility to his children.

The introduction of the Siona genes that shield prescience is interesting, but I’m not sure that it necessarily flies in the face of the prescience that lead to the Golden Path before her. Considering Herbert’s interest in science and ecology, natural selection and reactive evolution is something he would have been aware of - and this is what the shielding reminds me of. It was even cultivated by Leto II himself and seemed to fit into his plan. Something that is explored in the later books (and somewhat in the earlier ones) is how those with true prescience can lock themselves onto only one singular path; extrapolating determinism, which should only be 100% correct in hindsight, and repeating certain predefined patterns from the collective knowledge of the past to produce a correct pseudo-“foresight”. But I think the point is that this is not sustainable for humanity and too easily hijacked. I always got the feeling that the true point of the Golden Path was to free humanity from the trap of Prescience, and subsequently from the ability of any group to hold such total control as Leto II did. I’m not totally convinced of this yet, but it feels sort of right to me.
Comics and other Gallery / Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Last post by legomaestro on May 05, 2021, 01:01:53 AM »

Pretty much done with this regimen and not sure if I immediately want to stack on the other stuff or focus on my comics and stuff. Cars will definitely be revisited though, and I'm mulling over the idea of a thumbnail/backround thing because backgrounds is definitely a thing I want to tackle at a point haha.

Manga Art Gallery / Re: Seven Manhwa
« Last post by Uumichizu on May 04, 2021, 09:56:17 PM »
Echo_River thanks! Yeah, it's some concepts I want to introduce before I get to some action and I also want to convey that this is more somber.

Suuper-san yeah I noticed it was a little difficult to read maybe I'll mess with it again. I'll probably have to start from scratch since I'm pretty sure I lost the original file, oh well hahaah.

But I'm now done with the few manga pages so from here on out it's all new stuff!

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