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Messages - Lunalegends

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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Lunailegends Art
« on: August 03, 2017, 03:34:32 AM »
Sketchbooks are so good to have. Papers are hell to keep and I wouldn't recommend them, but in general having sketches on paper are really nice to pile up over time.

Ah, freelancing would be a dream of mine for sure. I think Patreon seriously helps out people, but otherwise I'm seriously not sure what works or how someone becomes freelance. Wish you the best of luck though.

Art mentors are actually findeable on the forum. Go ahead and PM an artist. I mean, as far as I know if you're serious about wanting to learn then people are definitely willing to give you advice and tips

Yeah I still have some of my old art, but had to throw away some of them because I need space in my room. XD

Thank you, I will see what I can do once I reach that point.

@shishi02 you can pm me here or use Discord, but I don't know how many "group chats" I can have because I already made 2 discord chats and joined one and one of the chats I joined disappeared.

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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Lunailegends Art
« on: August 02, 2017, 04:14:10 PM »
I do have a couple of questions.
How are you working on the bits that you want to improve on?
Do you draw pictures with the help of reference?
What's your art goal?
Do you want an art mentor?

Sure.
I am repeatedly drawing the same things over and over in my sketch books or digitally and save them for later, then I come back to them after a few months to see what I improved on and what needs work. I also sometimes look at tutorials and references to help me for anything I am stuck on. Like hands, coloring and so forth.

Hmm.. I would say my art goal is to become a professional artist that pays for my bills, but I want to be a freelancer in many things. Art is not the only thing I am learning and am trying to learn 3d modeling, animation, clay figure making, etc. I just love doing creative stuff and want it as a job. When I get to a certain point with the other stuff I am going to ask for critiques for those too but of course on other sites that are appropriate to ask for them.

I would definitely take an art mentor if I could find one that had time though and also does anime art but also draws well too and not just anime art. My friend draws many things and goes to college actually and I sometimes ask her for help, but she is a busy lady so I don't bother her too much. I did find anime artists on Kickstarter once that was raising funds to make art classes for people that want to learn, but they only said 6 hours lesson so I wasn't sure if that would be enough time to learn, so I didn't pledge.

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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Lunailegends Art
« on: August 02, 2017, 04:36:01 AM »

Coloring: I couldn't say much but I think you still color the same way as the other pictures. I wouldn't recommend to focus on color when you have a lot on your plate. The colors used on the two recent picture is pleasing to the eyes.

Dynamism/Perspective: the new pieces don't show much since it's a static pose. You might need a bit bold trying out gesture drawings if you want to try them out.


Yeah I have a lot to work on. XD I am starting with just cel shading for now so my works at least have some color. Thank you.

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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Lunailegends Art
« on: August 02, 2017, 03:43:06 AM »
@Operative13 sir, they felt attacked, not me. But it is my fault for not being very clear on my post in the first place. So, I take that suggestion and will ignore anyone if they didn't do the critique the right way. (I just have a bad habit of correcting people due to things that have happened in my life)

Anyways to answer the rest, yeah, I have only taken art classes in high school so I am almost completely self-taught, and have been drawing since I was 4 but didn't get serious in improving until 2011, so I am struggling to improve on what resources I do have, but I am no professional that's for sure, I am just a hobbyist at the moment. If I become a lot better, I might even go to college to learn more. (just a note, the first crested Ibis has some wrong proportions, just thought I'd point that out)

@Hasith thank you for coming, I will note that in the future. Can I request to delete this post and resubmit to start over? Because I really didn't like how this turned out and don't want to see most of these comments here. Just give me a notice first so that I can take the images I posted here and reuse them so I don't have to reupload to imgur again.

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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Lunailegends Art
« on: August 01, 2017, 06:09:05 PM »
I haven't said anything so far and I still won't comment on any art of yours, but I can't help but feel like you are shooting down any helpful advice on improving your art. It's ofc your choice to only accept praise, but on the other hand you tell about the other artist who encourages everyone to improve. How does this fit together? Noone tells you to draw more realistic as I understand, just to fix some issues or telling how they feel about your drawings. If you hope to become an artist, you might want to grow a thicker skin, because atm, you are hurling stuff at comrades.

You're being rude, and not understanding my viewpoint at all. At least read all the comments before you comment such things.

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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Lunailegends Art
« on: August 01, 2017, 03:11:34 AM »
 @FlyingFoxArt I did some realism before, and will do more for practice, as I don't want to limit myself to just anime art since most schools don't accept that and want to be a professional artist, but anime will be my preferred style. I am actually learning 3d style art too like ortho-para and siraha on Pixiv that mixes anime with realism so I will have art of it in the future. ^^

Here's another semi-realism piece that I've been working on and off for the past months:
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@MahluaandMilk I know Kyleehenke has some flaws, but the reason why I like her art and am inspired by it is because she worked so hard to get where she is today and I like people who improve. She tells everyone else not to give up their dreams and struggles with depression but she works hard to fight it. She is also an OCXCanon shipper who supports and tells everyone it's okay to do that too. So many call her Mom and the Meme queen and look up to her, she even has haters too. I hope this is enough info. to tell you why I am trying my best like her.

@xkaiz Thank you. ^^

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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Lunailegends Art
« on: July 29, 2017, 03:35:31 PM »
Glad to see another Soul Eater fan. ^^ I drew Kid with Litten because Litten looks and reminds me of Kid.

You're critique is appreciated, but I will have to clarify a few things: it varies for people when it comes to drawing realistically first or not. Kyleehenke is one who said herself that she kept drawing anime art over and over and got better at it. You can check her art on DA or Tumblr her username is the same on many platforms. I also learned from one tutorial that you are supposed to draw a part repeatedly to get better at it. I also do draw realistically sometimes, but it's not a preferred style for me. I can show you though a recent semi-realistic drawing I did for someone:
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(don't mind the unclean edges)

Color theory is what I am working on. I already learned the color chart in school and that I shouldn't use black as shading years ago, I just need to figure out how to do it properly and am learning still.

I am fine no worries, I just feel the need to clarify things so people understand more better my point of view.

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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Lunailegends Art
« on: July 23, 2017, 02:42:14 PM »
@The SlamJam I am not discouraged thankfully as I have been an artist for quite a long time now, but I did feel I had to correct people for it. Thanks for your input. ^^

@shishi02 Will do thanks. ^^

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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Lunailegends Art
« on: July 22, 2017, 07:48:23 PM »
@MahluaandMilk It's fine thank you for showing me. (I actually subbed to Mark Crilly he helps)


@shishi02 please do if you can I'd like to see it. I learned how wrinkles worked from looking at a bunch of art and from trial and error, I don't look at refs much but I should work on that.

@Shane Who's considered the blue can? 'cause I wasn't really paying much attention.

@Operative13 the light on the 1st artwork is actually coming from the right side, you will notice that from the tree shadows, so please let me know how that is. 1st work is older than the rest you mentioned. And then, I just mentioned why the colors are that way if you check my previous comments I made, basically the reason why it's like that is because I color pick a lot from many types of photos, so don't blame me they colored it that way, I just need to stop doing that if that's really a problem. XD I would get a tutor, but anytime I ask for help no one bothers to help me, so I just quit asking and helped myself, and will stick to that until I improve more and go to college. I am being stubborn yes, but it made me too disappointed and ashamed to ask for help anymore for anything really when I did ask for help. (when I asked for help in the music side of things I was turned down pretty badly :( ) And lastly, not sure what you are comparing, but some artwork you compared are from other people's fanart and it's not good to compare to other artists. You should try comparing to only the series that I made fanart from, because that's what I am aiming for. Like Toki, for example, I copied and color picked from here:
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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Lunailegends Art
« on: July 21, 2017, 11:35:49 PM »
I'd like to chime in here and say a few things before this escalates.

The first thing is, Luna, you are being quite defensive about what Mahlua said.....

The second thing is, its very easy to use "style" as an argument for not trying to do something. I do think Mahlua might have come off as a little cynical with that response, but I feel like that's because she's been around the website for a while and there probably have been quite a few people who tend to act that way.

So the first thing I'll say about style is that it is a fickle thing. I actually don't agree with you that "anime" style doesn't have wrinkles or details. First, because "anime" style is a very broad way to describe a multitude of different styles. Like you said, there is stuff like Panty and Stocking that chooses to leave details out in favor of more simplistic shapes and forms. This is often done to smooth out the actual process of animation. When you do this in an illustration, because it isn't moving, you need a very strong and consistent sense of style already established. This is something very difficult to do because you NEED an outside eye to review your work. If the viewer feels that it is "stiff" as Mahlua did, it just means you did not adequately communicate your stylistic choice to the viewer, even if it makes sense to you. Now not all viewers will see things equally, so it helps to have multiple viewers and see how it works out for you.

As for how to fix this? You actually don't need to. Mahlua is just one viewer of your work, you can argue that it is a style you are trying to develop and maybe it's not quite there yet because we are all still learning after all right? I have a few recommendations for you to look at that might help you develop more.

Look up the artist Grace Liu/Nargyle.

As for your artwork itself, I think it's fantastic! I like your use of colors (something I am personally very weak at) and especially your sketches of your OC. For me personally, I would like to see some of your other work, especially unfinished ones. I want to try and help wherever I can!

You did just escalate it by making another argument against it, and I said "do not reply with an argument". So please respect this.

Your critique is appreciated though, thanks. Yes, styles vary, and I'd also like to point out that it would be weird to have all clothes with wrinkles though, esp. if you iron your clothes, so I based it on a realistic viewpoint as well. Some characters do not have wrinkles in their clothes at all, like Death the Kid that I draw often. However, if I did draw wrinkles and posted it here, then it would make sense to critique those wrinkles and say why it's wrong, and even redline it for me. But if you point out wrinkles that don't even need it, doesn't make sense to me. Sorry, that's just me. :/ BUT! I plan to definitely work on the coloring, but right now I am still working on drawing poses and hands, so it will have to wait. I am hoping I can color like Siraha on Pixiv or ortho-para on Tumblr in the future, but am sticking with anime cel shading right now. I like their 3d anime art.

Here's a wrinkle drawing(warning she's not wearing any pants)(it's just a sloppy sketch though and not fixed)
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Grace Liu on Twitter? Just checked it and yeah they draw really good. I see her draw wrinkles on some of her characters too. You can check my art on Deviantart. Just look up xkirameku-lunaix and please do tell me if you see anything drawn wrong. I am still not very good with poses. XD

@BobbyJoeXForgotenSB I saw that anime actually, and am still working on the next season. :)

@shishi02 yeah pretty much, that's why I had to tell them it depends on the anime we are talking about, as anime styles vary. Someone else actually pointed the shading out too on another critique post I made actually, but yes, will definitely work on it! I was mainly color picking from actual photos that's why most of my colored art is like that.

@MahluaandMilk I am trying. Thanks.



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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Lunailegends Art
« on: July 21, 2017, 09:28:54 PM »
@S8N

Thank you for being polite. Well, as I said to them, the anime characters I did above don't usually have wrinkles, so I just corrected them on it and wasn't trying to be mean, so I hope they understand that. You can look up Death the Kid and look over his official design if you don't believe me. I was going for "add wrinkles only if needed", and I do already draw wrinkles on some of my drawings so they are not really a problem for me, I just didn't post them.. I hope that was clear enough.

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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Lunailegends Art
« on: July 21, 2017, 09:02:18 PM »
I looove critiques, because I am an improving artist and want to get better, but sometimes people say things that don't fit or make sense and I have to say something about it, that's just me because I want accuracy. So you WERE either upset or OFFENDED and said a not very nice thing because you were thinking that I "bitback" to you, when I didn't, all I told you is anime doesn't have wrinkles, it was a statement, a correction, not a "biteback". I didn't even say any bad or offending words to you. lol Remember this part you said? "but at worst, someone actually just asked for crits and made an excuse when one was given." That wasn't very nice to say, and didn't even need to be said, it just makes the artist feel like they said or did something wrong and not want them anymore. That's why I said chill out because you said something wrong. And please, do NOT comment any more arguments if you say you don't want them, and be polite to me and others. I wasn't or will NOT be attacking you so do not take my words the hard way.

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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Lunailegends Art
« on: July 21, 2017, 05:12:02 PM »
@MahluaandMilk

Dude, chill. I do add some wrinkles to some of my anime art, just not all of them. It depends on the outfit itself. Most people do not add wrinkles to the characters shown above.

(also, some anime do not have wrinkles/minimum wrinkles on the characters outfits. Take Panty and Stocking and Osomatsu-san for example)


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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Devola's Stuff
« on: July 21, 2017, 01:25:22 AM »

I rarely ever actually finish most of my work to "completion", I tend to lose interest or focus rather rapidly and move on to something else.


I am like this too most of the time, I just want to get over with the drawing and move to the next one. XD Nice art btw.

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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Lunailegends Art
« on: July 21, 2017, 01:20:54 AM »
Thanks everyone!

@MahluaandMilk It's supposed to be colored in anime style that's why there are no wrinkles.

@legomaestro the Red and White one with Gold eyes? That's Toki from Kemono Friends.

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