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Author Topic: Suuper's manga (+digital and 3D)  (Read 67197 times)

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Re: Suuper's manga (+digital and 3D)
« Reply #1035 on: December 04, 2018, 01:49:14 PM »
I'm very bad at getting out of my environment to do stuff i.e I rarely if ever jog, so yeh getting a job to put some walking into your life is something that I'd do. Also man I wish I could get a part time day job like that. Tired of janitor stuff though because I suck at it lel.

Any time spent focused on art is good time. But seriously dude your commissions that were done for free are already stuff people would pay for. Don't rule out getting started now as a pro. Being a pro only means paying some sort of bill with money you earned. I'm really sure you can get at that.

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« Reply #1036 on: December 04, 2018, 02:08:28 PM »
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Being a pro only means paying some sort of bill with money you earned
true true. I always mean it as in super-skilled but I know what you mean.

I used to be a cleaner and I enjoyed the mindless work quite well actually :)

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But seriously dude your commissions that were done for free are already stuff people would pay for. Don't rule out getting started now as a pro
thanks a bunch (gotta finish those requests tho), I keep telling myself I'll get around to getting paid but I'm not money oriented so I keep iterating between gaining skill and gaining confidence, and not doing anything with either haha.

I will definitely aim to go semi pro next year for sure, at whatever level I'm at. I do sort of feel confident but I also always feel that I'm on the verge of improving to the next level, so I always prioritize progress ahead of producing top quality work. That's also partly why I sort of stopped doing the requests as well. >_<

have some quickly finished old WIPs
After making a program to quickly crop images and sections, I made the opposite - a program to join all the cropped bits back together into a "WIP page" image, with multiple sketches on a page. it totally helps my workflow working in bulk. at some point, i'll colour a whole bunch of the nicer ones hopefully.
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I'm also probably going to reduce my time on MR as well, so posting less or maybe weekly instead of checking all the time for new stuff, which does take up a bunch of time in itself as well. I'll be active on my own threads, because they're mine :P
I'll also probably be commenting in less detail, fewer threads and so on as well.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2018, 02:14:42 PM by suuper-san »
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Re: Suuper's manga (+digital and 3D)
« Reply #1037 on: December 04, 2018, 02:15:28 PM »
Haha always finding a way to be more efficient I see. Last one is my favourite. Don't think I've ever seen that kind of gal drawn by you. She has attitude. Nice.


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« Reply #1038 on: December 04, 2018, 02:21:11 PM »
she looked the same as all my others to me haha I'm desensitized to my own drawings :P
I think it's just the result of a bunch of random to be honest lol
I need more clothing variation for sure. might try and throw in a couple of simple patterns on the next lot.
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« Reply #1039 on: December 04, 2018, 08:50:20 PM »
have some more finished WIPs

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trouble is some sketches can't be finished with one round, so they'll go back in the queue to be finished at another time. not to mention colouring which I'd like to do to a whole bunch too. I've certainly got my work cut out :P
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« Reply #1040 on: December 04, 2018, 08:53:47 PM »
I'm liking all of them but I swear it's a coincidence the last one is my favourite again. I don't know if you consider these WIPs or sketches but they're quite polished im(noob)o. You've levelled up, suuper. The outfits and characters and their expressions are all quite individual. Seriously impressive stuff dude.

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« Reply #1041 on: December 04, 2018, 09:10:47 PM »
These are really good Suuper, definitely a huge improvement over previous work. The poses are cute, the outfits are cute and the general vibe is very light and energetic, I love it!

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Re: Suuper's manga (+digital and 3D)
« Reply #1042 on: December 04, 2018, 10:53:07 PM »
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Isn't that an oxymoron?

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« Reply #1043 on: December 05, 2018, 03:12:32 AM »
@lego it's definitely a coincidence as that one was actually the first one I drew, the upload changed the order. they're 95% finished so not really WIPs, but a couple could go through a lineart clean, to remove the circles and guidelines underneath.

@devola thanks! I find it's easier to work on a whole bunch of images at the same time so I get a bit of a flow up.

@WalterB haha I never thought about that! I suppose I mean "these were WIPs, but now they are not" :P
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« Reply #1044 on: December 05, 2018, 12:41:55 PM »
aaaand another 6 finished. I think these can properly quality as "finished sketches"

got lazy and combined all the images into 1 lol
not sure if I want to spend more time on each one or not, since there's a limit to how much I can fix while inking on just the one layer.
my old sketches are so low quality it really reminds me to make sure I draw the details in the original sketch and dont wait for the next layer to draw them in, especially hands. for some reason I leave off hands a lot of the tie in my sketches, not even just a rough guideline, nothing. gotta be more on the ball for that sorta thing.

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also wayyyy too many sketches of just a head shot ended up in my WIP folder. well it's good practice I guess >_<
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Re: Suuper's manga (+digital and 3D)
« Reply #1045 on: December 06, 2018, 04:08:29 PM »
How large is your WIP folder again? Man these are really clean. You're really going at it. I wonder if they're some potential gems in my backlog that I could redraw to make cool like this. Hands look on the short side for the first number 6. Love her shirt though. First number 5 (megane gal) Is my favourite.

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« Reply #1046 on: December 06, 2018, 06:07:06 PM »
thanks
In terms of file size, it's at .57Gb, but resolution and whatnot makes that somewhat meaningless.
In terms of number I did a recount and it's at 3664. I'm somewhat liberal with what counts as one so a typical month looks like this

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got lots like this tho, headshot headshot headshot


basically anything that I should have finished is in there, I move on too quickly when I should have put more time into my sketches, so now I have the sketches, I want to put the time in to finish them. 1000 finished WIPs is one of my goals, although it's long-ish term. Especially since I want to colour and cel-shade them as well lol

yeah I should really draw more props on my characters like glasses, it always makes them look better and more real. the numbers are the minutes to draw. should really put reference numbers on them

the arm wasn't part of the original sketch for the other girl, which is why it was quite bad, since I had literally nothing to go on and I was inking blind. that's why a good initial sketch (the one above the guideline layer) has to be fully detailed even if it's rough, otherwise you've got to sketch that detail in at some point anyway. hands and feet that never get drawn are really annoying to your future self.

I'm sure there is plenty you can find to redraw/finish/improve in your sketches. What I notice is that because I already have the initial idea, my brain is less taxed in the creative area, and so I can focus more on the proportions and the technical area instead. I often notice anatomy mistakes (although I can't always correct them) a lot easier when it's the second time round. Plus you get a nice before and after to show off your (hopefully) improved skill
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Re: Suuper's manga (+digital and 3D)
« Reply #1047 on: December 06, 2018, 06:18:27 PM »
Now that's some benchpressing if I've ever seen some lel. After that you'll be sure to have made a leap in skill. Colouring even! Damn.

You're pretty methodic in your stuff. Impressive to see. Will be looking forward to these for sure. Also teach me file naming discipline dammit. My folders are such a mess.

Your mind being taxed is an issue that is so important when it comes to drawing. It's one of the greatest dragons to slay when it comes to making sequential art in general.  My ideal as an artist is not necessarily awesome art (though i'll always want to be a proportion-sama and 3d godling) but having a free flow of my ideas on page without that crushing exhaustion of ideas. I've gotta be more flexible with churning out images if I'm to get anywhere.

And yeh. Props make the world go round.

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« Reply #1048 on: December 07, 2018, 04:51:59 AM »
file organisation is probably the only thing I am nearly expert at lol
all files are in the format "year-month-day timefinished timespent copy/sketch description"
so "2018-12-07 0942 012 sketch trees.jpg"
I have year folders and month folders within them. GIMP files stay in the year folder as I wont need to look at them so regularly
Finished pieces, sketches, WIPs etc are additional cropped/cleaned copies placed in the relevant folders under year
WIPs are sorted into Needs Finishing, Needs Inking, Needs Colouring
extra folders contain copies such as the 1000 figure regime, manga pages grouped under story title etc.

tbh I think only the date is actually important but I love having all the extra info. Traditional pages only have the date as I haven't sorted through them yet @_@

yeah I find if I try and freestyle manga pages, I'll run out of momentum really quick and start focusing on the proportions rather than the expressiveness and the creative story. I think getting proportion and stuff under your belt will probably help as you are more free to create. I want to apply my WIP processing workflow to creating a manga with decent quality and expressive drawings, but not sure how yet :P
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« Reply #1049 on: December 07, 2018, 12:45:54 PM »
Some great clothing pieces there! I also like the way you draw delicate necks.

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