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Re: Writer Discussion Table
« Reply #1500 on: July 18, 2015, 06:25:54 AM »
I'd keep them for both the quiet tense moments (a character hiding and the footsteps of an adversary approaching) and more extreme moments (an explosion going off at the end of a chapter). Those are two very cliche examples but my point is I would use them sparingly. It all depends on your own style though.

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« Reply #1501 on: July 20, 2015, 01:54:39 AM »
I love onamaetopia. Unless you really go all out with it readers easily choose to tune them out or add them in their reading experience so I try whenever I want. Note that different countries have different ways to sound out sfx

I say other than manga webtoons are great at doing these, since they're translated into words usually and don't sound weird but effective rather e.g I saw 'type type type type' as a sound effect and heard it in my head as keys being struck.

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Re: Writer Discussion Table
« Reply #1502 on: July 20, 2015, 04:30:34 AM »
I love onamaetopia. Unless you really go all out with it readers easily choose to tune them out or add them in their reading experience so I try whenever I want. Note that different countries have different ways to sound out sfx

I say other than manga webtoons are great at doing these, since they're translated into words usually and don't sound weird but effective rather e.g I saw 'type type type type' as a sound effect and heard it in my head as keys being struck.
I would've wrote keystrokes as something like...

"Tap Tap Tck Tck Tap Tck Tap Tap Tap Tck Tap."

Because writing words out like that is... half-assed? I don't know, that's just how it might come off if you write 'boom' when a grenade explodes. or 'Bang' when a gun is fired.

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Re: Writer Discussion Table
« Reply #1503 on: July 20, 2015, 11:09:03 PM »
I don't want lot of cliches used for my story, want to try being original but not too much, foreshadowing is a big thing in stories, right?

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« Reply #1504 on: July 20, 2015, 11:13:34 PM »
That's just a technique and can be done well or not. Cliches mostly come from the characters themselves. Their names personalities and actions, or at least it's character cliches that bore people the most usually. Cheap romance novels recylce the entire plot but still get interest by having different characters involved

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« Reply #1505 on: July 20, 2015, 11:28:10 PM »
Romance not a main thing for my story but for character development I guess. I'm going for shock value with foreshadowing but leaving a few hints to what's actually going to happen and difficult to verified it.

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« Reply #1506 on: July 21, 2015, 12:20:04 AM »
It'll only work as shock value if readers care about the characters, so work on making them interesting and diverse

@Gelmra those are the most sound effective typy effects i have ever not heard

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« Reply #1507 on: July 21, 2015, 12:32:02 AM »
It'll only work as shock value if readers care about the characters, so work on making them interesting and diverse

@Gelmra those are the most sound effective typy effects i have ever not heard
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« Reply #1508 on: July 21, 2015, 12:35:06 AM »
My main characters are diverse in terms of race and different cultures, wanted to try out that to represent real life issues such as racism and immirgration and for the readers of different backgrounds to relate to.
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Re: Writer Discussion Table
« Reply #1509 on: July 21, 2015, 09:40:00 AM »
But when you try and do the best for readers as a reader, its almost like ur kissing ass. Crossing out fanservice, loooooooong fights, explicit jokes, 'clich├ęs' and what not. By the time you finish crossing everything out, its like pouring out all the spice
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« Reply #1510 on: July 21, 2015, 11:08:34 AM »
Best for the readers is always subjective. If you think cliches fanservice long fights and explicit jokes are always bad then you're missing a lot of the response that audience have to this sort of thing.

Also if you try to make a perfectly safe story, no one will want to watch or read it. Or it'll become a mindless toon like Disney tends to be these days.

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Re: Writer Discussion Table
« Reply #1511 on: July 21, 2015, 01:46:51 PM »
Speaking of cliches:

In a story I'm developing about Immortals, I came up with the idea of their names and personalities being based on the signs of the Chinese Zodiac. Would that be considered an overused cliche in manga? Only one that comes to mind is the brief appearance of the Hunter's Council in Hunter X Hunter but I feel it must've been used a lot more than that lol.

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« Reply #1512 on: July 21, 2015, 03:45:40 PM »
No I meant I don't want to overuse cliches, I'm using them when I feel it's a good time to do it, I do plan to have scenes that has 'love making', and Akane, not cool telling me that.
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« Reply #1513 on: July 21, 2015, 04:00:43 PM »
How would you think about a story that goes into a darker path?

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« Reply #1514 on: July 21, 2015, 04:05:25 PM »
You'd have to explain more than that Sword Hero. A story can have all sorts of twists and turns and techniques but people have to care for the characters to be interested... However I tend to like dark stories

@Sherbet definitely raises alarm bells so you just have to play it straight and not be lazy when utilizing the zodiac. Then it can become a fun and engaging platform. Artemis Fowl was about fairies and a boy genius and I thought it was just another book. Blew my socks off that one