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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #780 on: September 17, 2019, 04:43:06 PM »
great stuff and you're really keeping the output high!
lol at the pipecleaner reference figure tho
but that's just it - it seriously doesn't matter - if it works for you then it's a good method, no argument.

you've almost consistently added faces to all of these figures, which might be a possible reason why you haven't drawn as many as you expected. drawing faces takes up more time than not drawing faces, after all XD
But I think they look wayyyy cooler with faces. I can totally see them in a manga.
#2334 - is that you? verrrry nice style and proportions, I will steal that style for sure.
you're nearly at the 25% mark, a respectable checkpoint indeed.
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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #781 on: September 25, 2019, 12:18:15 PM »
I see what you mean, and that's totally it.

I've had an intense mind-numbing session but I see it's my impatience that made it worse than it was. I've learnt that folding my A4 paper and working on each side is pretty good for making my average paper worth 12 figures though. It makes it nice to think 10 pages = 100 figures and 100 pages =1,000. Thinking of 10,000 still leaves me in despair sometimes, but I'm dealing well enough.

I'll be doing a lot of standard poses for the next few because idea exhaustion. But I do hope to come out of this being able to do sword swooshy effects for sword fights.

Thinking of starting a manga is sooo tempting. Excited about when I finally get done with this. I will celebrate.










Also, I'm having way too much fun drawing eyes. If you have any ideas or tutorials for eyes throw them at me!

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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #782 on: September 25, 2019, 10:41:28 PM »
Noticed that for sure. Unfortunately I have already deposited my secret for drawing eyes in your notebook, so I am of no further use in that realm.

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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #783 on: September 26, 2019, 08:29:26 AM »
To be honest for eyes, I just pick an artists style I like and draw it. The only guidelines I use are a line for the "horizon" - (pupil to pupil usually), and a box to contain each eye, then just fit it all in haha. Manga eyes are a lot simpler than real eyes and also can be stylized almost any way, which makes them a bit easier to draw.

For me I also generally find that the same number of sketches fill up a page, it's kinda of the rhythm you get into. Makes it a bit easier to figure out how many pages you'll use up and so on. Also it usually takes the same amount of time to do a set of drawings.

For pose ideas, try and think of groups of actions or poses and then draw as many poses as you can in that group, from different angles as well, i.e. sports poses - you can break down by sport. Action/weapon/combat poses, still poses, everyday poses, "posing for the camera" poses, multiple people poses, for example. And also specific camera angle sets i.e. forshortening, low angle, high angle etc. And also pose category from the body point of view - symetrical, dynamic, flexible/stretching,sitting,standing, prop interaction - breakdown by prop. That's how I got inspiration for my 1000 figures and I didn't feel like I was racking my brain too hard to come up with them. You can break down the pose categories into subcategories and so on, to get an almost inexhaustible list of ideas (this is the basis for my inspiration handbook that I am making)

10000 is still a mad goal but if you break down the number into 100 sets of 100 genres, it sounds a lot more doable, no?
This seriously makes me want to try out 10000 of something haha
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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #784 on: October 14, 2019, 04:04:35 AM »
That does sound feasable indeed. Too bad I lost all energy to even do that. I'll try it as I head for the 3,000 point.

You have a golden idea there for sure suuper. Seriously, I need to see how you break down things a bit. I need that order rn haha.






























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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #785 on: October 15, 2019, 02:26:20 PM »
man there's no mercy on the scroll wheel with your thread lego you always deliver, and in bulk :P

nice to see male and female stick figures and how their proportions differ too.

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Seriously, I need to see how you break down things a bit. I need that order rn haha.
hmmmmm how do I break things down I wonder?
it's a little difficult to describe but basically everything fits into a main category, then smaller and smaller subcategories. with practice you get better but it's like this:
-main category:manga reference
-faces
-expressions
-sad

you could conversely start at a super specific point and work your way back i.e. sad - is an expression - is to do with faces
any category can have multiple children categories i.e. expressions can also be happy/angry etc.
even sad can have more categories - with tears/without tears/crying etc.

for poses it's the same
lets take a major category - movement
-action
-sports
-football
-tackles
-sliding tackle

In practice, I often think of an individual pose and give it a category, which is often in the middle, not quite a final category, but not a main one, and then I work back up to a main category. Once you do this a few times with different ideas, you get a feel for what is a main category and how ideas can be sorted.
i.e. jumping poses - that's not a main category as it can fit into "motion", "action","mid-air" etc., and it can also have it's own children categories ,"leaping","hopping","skipping" etc.

at some point you will find that some categories belong in multiple places - I don't know whats the best way to deal with this effectively but typically chose only one location that it fits into and leave it at that.

It doesn't really matter what your categories are or how you sort your ideas and so on, but it needs to be able to expand - to be able to add more ideas at different levels and still make sense. You can be more generalized with categories or more specific as well. I recommend being specific as this leads itself to finding new categories easier.

For instance rather than just having combat poses in a huge random list, list them by sport, and research the different sports and martial arts. Even martial arts is it's own category. You can have defense poses/attack poses/stances, different martial art styles, and so on. It's limitless.

I'm still working on a nice categorized image tagging system to work with all my reference images haha
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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #786 on: October 23, 2019, 08:03:12 AM »
Well as helpful as that was I was utterly unable to commit to a theme and apply something. For now all I can say is that I've gotten a nice stick-figure tutorial that's inspired me to work smaller. That means I might be able to fit even 20 sticks on a sheet of A4 paper, and it'll give me more speed in general when coming up with figures.

Here is the tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoOLpWUzAQE

And some scrolling

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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #787 on: October 25, 2019, 03:55:45 PM »
That's a cute style in the video.
There's probably as many stick figure styles as there are people on earth :P

Yeah fitting more figures on a page will deffo be faster.
And being faster is great for doodling out a first idea for a sketch i.e. thumbnailing.

Well done on hitting 3K

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Well as helpful as that was I was utterly unable to commit to a theme and apply something.
I'm completely convinced that pretty much any method will work for improving, although some can be more efficient than others.
But also I think our personality has an impact on how well a certain method will work for us anyway, like if we are really organised or really messy, that will have an impact on our styles and our methods.
So like if you want to get say, a certain neat style, you might have to be neat in other areas of your life, to get that attitude part of your life, and then it will reflect in your art. Or the opposite if you want to have crazy messy spontaneous art.
Just a crazy thought.
But equally that thought might only apply to me, because that is what I personally believe. Who knows. *shrug*
What I do know is that you gotta find what works for you, no matter what works for other people.
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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #788 on: October 26, 2019, 12:09:11 PM »
Lego we're going to have to institute mandatory spoiler tag usage for your art posts. My poor scrolling thumb ToT....

Seriously though, impressive output! Maybe it's just me, but your "stick figures" seem to be developing more human proportions as you go along. Redraw the heads and add clothes to a lot of this and you're basically right off a manga page.

I also agree with the mindset thing Suuper brought up. When I decided I wanted to overall be a more positive and engaged person (because being the aloof smartass really got to be a tiresome and lonely bit), I found that my writing followed suit right along with it. It's where the enthusiasm to start writing six stories at once came from. So yeah, mind over matter really does pay off.

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« Reply #789 on: October 26, 2019, 03:18:58 PM »
@coryn ahhhh glad it's not just my wild ramblings haha
mind over matter is a popular phrase with me.
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« Reply #790 on: October 27, 2019, 03:04:03 PM »
It's true though. A person's mindset shows in how they behave and in their actions. If you're being a negative Nancy all the time, then yeah, you're going to have a negative outlook on your creative endeavors and you'll end up producing negativity. Mind over matter is certainly a good way to think about it if it helps. But I also like the concept of everything flowing outward from the center (the center here being your brain). Of course I don't have a good slogan for what exactly I'm trying to sum up, haha.

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« Reply #791 on: October 28, 2019, 03:26:39 AM »
maybe "change starts from within"?
or something XD
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« Reply #792 on: October 29, 2019, 08:47:39 PM »
Yeah you're getting there. I swear there was some quote I've heard before that really get's it down.

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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #793 on: November 03, 2019, 12:45:32 PM »
I hear you loud and clear on the mindset thing. I thought it was sustainable to be cautiously pessimistic about things when it comes to doing stuff like writing and drawing, but a certain amount of base mental motivation is necessary to get anything done. Working on that from now on.

I'm not sure if faking it till I make it is a good idea, but I'd love to try *insert smiley*

Also, in spoiler tags now, I've got 300 stick figures done. I could've done more but been a bit occupied. Hoping to crack 4,000 in the next two weeks!

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« Reply #794 on: November 04, 2019, 12:57:25 AM »
The spoiler tags certainly do help haha
Great work, I cant believe you've made it this far so quickly.
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