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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #750 on: May 13, 2019, 06:30:11 PM »
All progress is progress Mahlua. If there's anything I've learnt from regimens is that it's the small steps done reliably that are ever more important than the big milestones as fun as they seem. If you've done some work in a little way in your drawing then it'll pay off in a big way later down the line. Work at your pace and you'll be aces gold.
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Thumbs: 1014/1000
Chars: 1000/1000


The 700 mark for both of the regimens was one of the worst grinds I've ever had when it came to regimens. A lot of things in my life at the time were demanding all my attention and I just generally felt wrung out and exhausted with the trudge. But as it always happens regardless of how unmotivated I am the numbers dwindled up until I was only a few more before the finish line and now I'm beyond even that and can say that I've successfully done 1000 characters and 1000 thumbnails.

I tried as well as I could to be unique with every one, to come up with an idea of how the characters would look fully rendered or what thumbnails interested me, and there are quite a few fun moments paired with the horrible trudge. For example the conversations that always come up when people notice you doing regimens (obvious, repeat occurence when you draw traditionally in public.) And then there were times I saw scenes clearly when I was feeling tired and/or boozed up. It's interesting how not being quite razor conscious helps you build up and imagine scenes free-er. I wish I could've done some of those thumnbnails more justice, but I do remember their essence and if I ever felt like expanding upon them I'm confident I'd know a lot more on how to fill out those scenes.

This regimen was a milestone on another front as well: In interests of time and my hope to improve my art, I'm going to be going a heavily tracing/reference based regimen road for a while. I'm desperate to jump right back into my main comic and writing projects after this regimen to see what I've learned from it but I know I'm not quite there yet and am actually excited to shut off a little and let myself learn from external sources and let some inspiration and influences seep into my art more. As it is I have a comfortable enough base of my own style to start off on any of my projects and I'm confident in that, but I want to still spurce it up a little by learning how to reference and basically drawing stuff I usually wouldn't draw (or at least draw stuff I'd love to be able to draw)

I'll be sure of what to call the regimen when I get started on it, but I'm thinking it's 1000 magazine drawings. If something else comes along before that - even if it's not referencing as I intend - I'll see about that too.

For now I will just dance a jig and be happy about hitting this milestone.

And now post all that I have done in all it's glory.

Warning: Lotso scrolling

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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #751 on: May 13, 2019, 11:27:10 PM »
Congrats Lego! There's definitely an improvement that can be seen between the beginning and the end of all of these! Some of the thumbs feel like they're about to be focused into a more flushed out piece.

That magazine run does sound interesting, although the thought of you getting back into the regular comic routine is an awful appealing one. It feels like years since you've been on that consistently (hell, maybe that's not far off). But yeah, I imagine once you're back to it on the regular, there will be a marked difference.

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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #752 on: May 14, 2019, 07:26:17 PM »
Thanks Coryn!

In my head I'm doing a sort of 'classy procrastination'. I have so many hang-ups that I've got to work through that I need to work my way through them before I can focus on what I want to do. I wish I had  your level of productivity on that front haha.

I'll see if i can sneak a panel or two in between my 'busy' life

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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #753 on: May 14, 2019, 08:43:43 PM »
Well, you just gotta push through it sometime. But I've found that just setting aside a few hours every Sunday will at least keep me pushing forwards. As long as you can find a time to consistently put to it, even if it's an off day, you'll get something done.

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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #754 on: May 15, 2019, 04:14:28 AM »
Congratulations on getting a whole TWO more 1000 regimes under your belt!!!!!!!!

I've sort of mentioned favourites along the way so I wont mention any more, but it's been great to see the amount of unique ideas that you put down on paper.

I did notice that your regime changed very quickly from just drawing clothing to drawing whole characters. that took the focus off the accuracy of the clothing, but I think these functioned better as complete character concepts. As with my own sketches, I've realised it's better to have the good idea and fix the accuracy later than draw something non interesting accurately first time. Your thumbnails also started off a bit random on the pages but you got into a nice rhythm and spaced them nicely and evenly.

You went through quite a few sketching styles so it's difficult to comment on actual art improvement, as well as the fact that they are meant to be rough to begin with, but you had some solid ideas. Even what you probably consider to be your generic non-interesting ideas are still way ahead of me haha

Now that you have finished the both, I might go through and use a bunch of your characters and thumbnails as inspiration for new sketches for a while, although I've got plenty of my own to be working on as well XD

I've not drawn in public very much, partly because my life doesnt get me out in public very much where I am free to draw.  It's great that you've made connections this way and I'm sure it makes the art more fun and interesting.

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It's interesting how not being quite razor conscious helps you build up and imagine scenes free-er.
I have occasionally experienced this but not consistently enough to call it a thing. I have experienced very different moods where my accuracy has been extra high or my ideas have been extra fancy. But it's not like I feel any different, it just happens and I don't know why. Sometimes having done exercise beforehand seems to help, like it loosens my body up so I'm more fluid when I draw. I think.

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I wish I could've done some of those thumnbnails more justice, but I do remember their essence and if I ever felt like expanding upon them I'm confident I'd know a lot more on how to fill out those scenes.
Really, I think that's the point - to quickly get an idea down on paper. It doesnt have to be great, or even finished, if it conveys the idea properly. If you already know how you would improve it then you almost don't have to, if you get what I mean. It's when you decide to use that scene in an artwork/project that you should be investing the time to fully develop it I think.

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I'm desperate to jump right back into my main comic and writing projects after this regimen to see what I've learned from it but I know I'm not quite there yet and am actually excited to shut off a little and let myself learn from external sources and let some inspiration and influences seep into my art more.
Yup that's exactly how I feel pretty much. It's hard to balance "learning art" and "doing art" when you're not at the skill level you want. You've certainly got the right mindset for taking on a huge project now. It's just having the time to do whatever you want that seems to be the problem for all of us.

I'm definitely looking forward to seeing your art leap forward and all the best for the future regimes and projects!!
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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #755 on: June 30, 2019, 09:56:22 AM »
Well the idea to reference as much as possible turned out to be a huge failure. I ended up shutting down and getting into a major rut. I'm still for tracing manga and drawing from mangazines as the like, but my engines went to a complete stand still and I felt daunted at the idea of putting my pen down to do anything really.

I've decided to dial myself down to near zero, that is, stick figures and simple shapes. It's a legendary cop out, but it's the only thing that works, and it's made me able to draw a little more again so I'll stick with this.

New regimens: 10,000 stick figures and 1,000 simple buildings (made of squares mostly)

I hope the building one will help me with scale at least, otherwise I'm literally just burning through scrap paper and doodling when and where I can, the true essence of a regimen. Still feel like I'm in a rut but I'm more optimistic about these than other ideas.







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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #756 on: July 25, 2019, 06:44:42 AM »
Dang, sorry to hear it didn't work out so well for you!!
It happens to the best of us (-_-)

I'm constantly bouncing between ideas and goals which change the type of regimes or art I want to do which is always a bit of a pain. Every month or so I have a different direction with my art which makes it difficult to be consistent in my targets.

But good that you're not letting it keep you down, any art is better than no art, and some simple regimes might just be the thing. 10,000 stick figures is certainly a large target - that's 30 a day, for a whole year!
I've found that often my best poses came from when I had doodled a stickfigure thumbnail first, so this might help you to explore different poses and stuff without worrying too much about proportions ("proportions are just facts, it's the pose which is art"). maybe do some group shots of several stick figures, or fight/combat poses between two figures. even try out different ways of drawing stick figures. there's a lot you can do for variation to keep out of a rut!

nice cute house ideas, I've linked this artist once before on MR but this might give you some inspiration for variety in your doodles https://www.deviantart.com/mattiasa

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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #757 on: July 25, 2019, 12:48:10 PM »
Aww, feels man. References can be stifling sometimes for real. I think it's a good thing you were able to let go of one method and switch to another in order to draw. Hang in there!

I really like the easy feel of the stick figures c: hadn't thought of using a rectangle figure for the body before O: How do you find using that compared to a single back bone line?
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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #758 on: July 26, 2019, 05:24:41 AM »
I found it much better, but I've actually been inspired by this instagram to go a wholly different direction for stick figures.  https://www.instagram.com/lixdhedgehog/
 
I want them to always be this large. I guess it feels like a stretch to call them stick figures anymore, but I need them to be like this for the sake of volume and layering.  (That being said there's still some stuff on pinterest that makes me say 'Dammit, stick figures can still be expressive as heck. People are talented in everything, I tell ya)

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@suuper Yes the thumbnail thing has been a godsend its ridiculous man. The things one ignores because of impatience and stubbornness... Sigh. Well I'm definitely thumbnailing a lot more now to make characters. I'll post my efforts soon.

And dude this guy is aces. I see what you mean about the doodling thing though. He works with just lines and it feels relaxed enough to encourage me. But man can he add details. You know, this reminds me of your random pipe and circuitry drawings. Haven't seen any of those in a while. Do you still do them? I liked them a lot!

For now... I've reached 1,000 somewhere along the line. I'm really enjoying this regimen. I'm having nice moments of peacefully zoning out without stressing about everything and that's great.


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« Reply #759 on: July 26, 2019, 08:28:03 AM »
345-349 good job at trying the same pose different ways to get what you want - it can be a bit daunting at first but that sort of super-focused practice is exactly what one needs to improve.

also 900's - nice style of body you've got there, the repetitive practice can also help to notice bad habits and make good ones so make sure you give yourself a bit of feedback after each one and have a target for drawing (i.e checking for slant etc can be good when doing lots of quick sketches as you start to learn to double check your work more frequently - and I found on occasion just before drawing a line I realized that i was about to draw it slanted, as could correct myself.)

I don't draw the pipes or electronics very much, partly because it comes rather naturally to me and I'm trying to draw out of my comfort zone. I will be drawing more when I get into backgrounds and my steampunk manga which remains to be written.

and well done on the first 1000. maybe have a different genre for each 1000 to try out different areas or something, although you do naturally change up from time to time anyway.

nice non stick-figure page mixed in there btw that's really nice characters there. also, A3, huh? I don't touch that mostly because it's a pain to start storing paper of that size as well as my A4 XD
my digital canvas is A3 though and I draw at that scale (otherwise I make too many files haha)
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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #760 on: July 26, 2019, 09:56:44 AM »
I'll try to consciously check for more slants now, and I can get pretty repetetive at a point. I'll see if I can add themes to my stick figures. If anything I should at least aim at something if I draw the same pose (proportion, anti slant e.t.c) I'll see what I can do.

Hahaha paper organization will be become absolute hell for me. I can't even scan my A3s so its even more annoying. I love them for storyboarding especially though. They motivate me for some reason to plot out my comic since I can just bend one and then I have 4 a4 surfaces to work with thumbnailing on XD

More stuff showing my scribbles thumbnails techniques


Here I turned small thumbnails in to characters. Thumbs are such life savers for mental stamina. You can really work with the smallest shapes and expanding them is so interesting. I love thumbnailing now.










I particularly liked this one below because I truly worked with scribbles done with a ballpoint pen and then made characters over them. It worked better than I'd have hoped-










I've almost forgotten I was doing a building regimen thing. I'll need to do more along with my stick figures.

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« Reply #761 on: July 26, 2019, 10:46:21 PM »
@Lego Thanks and yep, I drew it. She's my character c:

The style of that artist is quite appealing O_O Think I'd like to try something like that to. So simple and yet so cool - how?!

Also, great work with those figure drawings! I like the feel of some of them, like in the 900s.

337 - 338 just :thumbsup:
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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #762 on: July 30, 2019, 07:04:04 AM »
I just discovered it comes from an rpg called marikin online 4. I need to learn japanese haha. There's a whole community for it making art in this style and it was made with RPG maker. You should check it out

Thankee Echo, and she looks really good haha! The colours work well and I just love the outfit.


















I've found focusing on the limbs alone is making thinking of the figures easier. Slants, random proportions and a lack of theme are hellish though. I need to pace myself a little.

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« Reply #763 on: July 31, 2019, 04:22:03 PM »
whoops thought I replied to the other post.
yeah not being able to scan in A3 is a bit of a pain, although if it's thumnailing then the accuracy/quality doesnt matter so much and you can fold the paper or take a photo.
funny you say about folding A3 to make an A4 booklet, because I often fold my A4 in half haha. Not so much for drawing, but when I plan for my coding or designing something mechanical I do this a lot. it totally gives a different feel for some reason haha.

and lovely character designs. they look a lot more filled out and detailed than your 1000 characters that you drew before. which reminds me I have to steal some of them. might make a regime of it :D

and great work pumping those figures out, it'll do wonders for your proportions.
funny that last one #1224, is very similar to how I often draw my figures on the first iteration. mine are a bit more joined up with circles for the main joints but I think the way you drew it is quite similar. for difficult poses having a drawing method that breaks it down to have a crack at it helps a lot.
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Re: Miscellaneous Arts and Sketchbook
« Reply #764 on: August 02, 2019, 12:43:39 PM »
Doooo eeeeeeet, I'd love to see you do any one of my characters again. And like promised on my side I want to draw one of yours as well haha.

I'm finally hitting the level that I want. The figures feel more right to draw out and it's an amazing feeling feeling like I'm improving something a bit haha. Awesomesauce