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Offline IndigoDoll90

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How To Get Started As A Manga Artist
« on: November 11, 2021, 08:33:18 AM »
Right now while I'm still single and have no kids I want to focus on my career especially becoming a manga artist. One of my problems is I have so many ideas and am rather disorganized which makes it hard for me to get my ideas down and sort through my ideas. I've been told to just pick an idea and stick with it but I often will eventually get tired of one idea and want to focus on another for the moment. Sometimes I wish I could just stick with one idea but I guess my brain just isn't like that. I've been told once I can get my ideas more sorted I should go to a comic book publisher but I don't like that idea. Besides if I was to take my ideas to a publisher they probably would want me to make a lot of changes to it. Besides I like the idea of publishing my own manga anyway. Still I have such a hard time sorting through ideas and sticking with them not to mention motivating myself that I feel I will never become a manga artist. Besides I often feel I should be one already. Any ideas how I can finally get started as a manga artist.

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Re: How To Get Started As A Manga Artist
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2021, 11:35:56 AM »
Well Indigo, I would first say that don't believe the idea that you should already be anything. You're not on a deadline to become an artist. It can happen at any time in life as long as you continue to out the work in. So don't fret!

That being said, seeing a single idea through is good advice. But I will amend that to also say that super short ideas are great! A story you can complete in a few pages is something you can easily accomplish without getting distracted by the next idea. Showing that you can see something through from beginning to end is super important. Even if the projects are super small, they will eventually add up to something much greater as long as you keep up with it! An anthology of short stories is worth just as much towards achieving your goals as a single long form story.

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Re: How To Get Started As A Manga Artist
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2021, 05:12:58 PM »
Yeah I've been thinking lately it might help to start with a 1 or 2 page short manga and maybe posting it to my deviant art account to start with.

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Re: How To Get Started As A Manga Artist
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2021, 02:12:11 PM »
If you have a short attention span for ideas and can't be helped. Integrate it into your style of story-making by making shorts. Tied together by a theme. Example Black Mirror is short stories tied by the theme of technology is dangers yata yata...   

As a goal, I want to become a manga artist is open-ended. Having short-term goals like I want to get a chapter done etc might be more manageable. Also, ask yourself why you want to be a manga artist. Money, fame, self-fulfillment, passing the time. Because making a manga might not be the only way to get those. Knowing where you want to go might get you there faster.

When it comes to deadlines. Even though one might not have the traditional deadline to worry about. Our time on earth is finite. Sorry to sound morbid. Is it just me? Feels like the week goes in a blink.

Between trying to make a living, family/friends etc, we only have a couple of hours a day to make a thing and get it done. Better make it count.

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Know your shortcomings and strengths, work with them and around them.
Know what do you want and go for it, eliminate the necessary steps.
Make good use of the time you have. It's finite.

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Re: How To Get Started As A Manga Artist
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2021, 05:39:40 PM »
Self publishing literature and comics seems to be a lot more accessible nowadays - webtoons and even Amazon offer these services fairly openly. For new creators, I imagine that successfully self-publishing and generating engagement in your work will probably become a requirement for even getting picked up by traditional publishers outside of Japan (inside Japan is it's own story as always...). Anyways, if you get a piece of work done and are serious about publishing it, then this is all to say that this shouldn't be as much of a hurdle any more... the real challenge is self-marketing and driving engagement.

As for the work-ethic side of your post, I think others have already offered decent advice. But, from me: if you are struggling to focus on a single project at a time and cannot force it, then, as an alternative to creating shorts (only if that's not what you want to do) you can actually try just write/draw everything! Get it all out of your head and onto a page, then find a way to organize it later. This allows you the freedom to just create what is in your head freely without worrying about chronology or plot holes or other usual sticking points that prevent progress. Then you may find that, after working on them separately, a few of your disparate ideas can be ordered or brought together into one longer piece. I often find that if I have competing ideas taking up my mental space/energy I end up doing nothing productive with any of them. So I write out summaries/do research until I've satisfied all the itches and can just focus on the project I am currently working on.

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Re: How To Get Started As A Manga Artist
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2021, 01:42:29 AM »
So this is a question that millions of people struggle with in every career path, and unfortunately the correct answer is the one nobody wants to hear: "just do it" but what does that mean? Obviously you can't "just become a professional manga artist" there are many barriers that you have break through first, and the issue is most people stop there.

A big example of this is youtube, many people say "I want to start a youtube channel and have a career as a content creator, how do i start?". Well when you think about it, how did PewDiePie start? He just did it. He made a video, earned $0 off it, and got no viewers. But he made another video anyway, and he kept doing that until a video suddenly blows up, 1,000s of views, and suddenly sponsorships appear and eventually youtube creates the partner program.

We tend to set goals for ourselves specifically so that we can fail them, almost like how certain people (not all) who never learned how to deal with rejection will be attracted to married men and women because rejection doesn't sting the same way from someone who is obligated to reject you. Like many first-time game designers say "I want to make an MMORPG" in the scale of world of warcraft, but when they realize they only have the capacity to create a mobile game in the scale of Angry Birds then they just give up, rather than creating anything.

Focus on what you can do and eventually you can do more. Like the old saying, a builder doesn't think to himself, "I'm going to build a house today", he thinks "I'm going to lay down a brick, build a door, finish the pluming, or wire the electricity" he thinks in terms of what he can do. Eventually he will build a house, but right now he can build a door.

You can't just become a Professional Manga Artist, but you can draw a picture of a character, a picture of a fight scene, two characters kissing, an environment. You can make a 1-page comic. You can start there and trust me nobody will care about the very first picture you make, you won't get paid for it, and your future self won't even like it because (ideally) you'll have grown so much as person. You are building your goal as a professional manga artist each time you do something.

Everything you've talked about are real barriers that you will encounter, but you cannot allow these barriers to be an excuse to do nothing.

You have too many ideas - Draw all of them - write down all of them - do them one by one
Get tired of an idea - publish it unfinished or leave it there until you're interested in it again, start the next one.

And the thing about motivation is that we are all motivated to do what we really want to do. A great example is the common meme format where a girl asks her boyfriend to hang out and he doesn't want to, but when she mentions that she's home alone, he suddenly has the motivation to cross mountains to get there. When you really want something you're going to make it happen, but hear me out.

Sometimes you have to do it in order to be motivated to do it. And that probably sounds crazy, but there might be something in the process of becoming a professional manga artist that you really want that you didn't know about until you tried it.

My personal experience with art is just like this, I thought that I had a passion for Art but I was rapidly losing motivation for it, but deep down, I had a greater passion for "Design", and I really enjoy the role of a designer. In order to make art usually you have to "design" it: meaning you have to figure out what it is, what looks nice, and what makes it interesting whereas the artist part just deals with the physical work of drawing it. This is something you're going to run into as a manga artist because when you're figuring out how to setup the panels and the size of the book (or dimension on a web page) you will be doing Graphic Design, not illustration. In the process of building this career you're going to end up doing things like social media marketing, customer service, computer science, probably a bit of chemistry and logistics if you were doing hard copies, and somewhere along the lines you're going to find something you really enjoy, and you probably just haven't had the chance to try it yet.

So if you're not motivated to actually doing the career, be motivated to finding your motivation.

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Re: How To Get Started As A Manga Artist
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2021, 12:28:16 PM »
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You have too many ideas - Draw all of them - write down all of them - do them one by one
Get tired of an idea - publish it unfinished or leave it there until you're interested in it again, start the next one.
I live by this advice and totally agree with it.

I look at most skills like a game skill-tree, with values and dependencies and locked and unlocked areas. Most skills can break into sub-skills which are easier to work on, like writing can break down into spelling & grammar for example. The more you divide a skill the easier it is to learn that individual part of it.

I think everyone has pretty much said everything I could imagine to say, but I would say as a help to get started: draw/write what you like, as this will help a lot with motivation in the early days.
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