Managed to produce a chapter 3 of each story. If you fancy it take a look and let me know what you think.
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this is my project status.
I had 2 very bad days unfortunately this week in addition to my extra loaded week. thanks to my buffer I could produce the final chapters but my next chapter prep is currently lacking. So far, I'm in trouble compared to previous weeks. This is the first week that I've had the script and the art both pending, since I overwrote the chapters previously I've been coasting a little on second halves of scripts rather than writing a new chapter each week. But in the next few days I have some bonus time and I'll just about scrape by I think.
I wanted to get more done this Sunday but I just didn't get very far.
I had one really good day too so it's not all bad, but it didn't make up for the bad days this week.
I'm still quite hopeful for being successful with the weekly content, I'm gaining some sort of focusing abilities, and building up more experience which is useful.
I'm also getting a much more solid idea of the exact workload to produce one chapter, and getting used to the flow and switching between the different stages effectively.
onwards and upwards....I hope.
@Lego
Hahahaha suuper you clearly haven't been on MR long enough hehe.
Ehehe just making sure lol
Have tunnel vision on one thing instead (say 70-80%)
Tunnel vision is definitely a good way to learn new skills by ignoring other things. It's definitely been what's helping me the last couple of years. Regimes are like an extreme version where you only focus on one single thing, at all .
and introduce the other aspect slowly.
This is where I'm quite hopeful that I can gradually do this. I think for a while the quality will be chaotic, and then settle into a rhythm, and then I can work on increasing the quality.
making weekly manga is something I really want to be able to do. The perfect moment will be when I just do it as naturally as waking up, brushing my teeth and taking a shower.
Well much like myself you've shown you can do the mileage, it's just getting the regularity, as you say. But even brushing your teeth, you have days where you forget or really don't feel like showering so even with something that's super simple, you can have off days. But having a method that can deal with off days is super useful, that's what I'm hoping I've got going at the moment.
Post a 'planned panel' at a point man. I've never actually thought of making individual panels, super lazy and just divvy up the page and then draw something in. That approach feels like you find individual panels to be individual illustrations, and I am all for that hehe.
Probably you're imagining it's something way more interesting than it actually is, and it's probably what you're doing already. Simply it's just a concept for the composition, i.e. character position, camera position, type of shot etc. So like a super rough draft. Since I plan the panels on the page it ends up as a page draft but each panel's size and composition has to be considered separately, is what I mean.
I cover a lot of the aspects of creating a manga with my current workflow in my manga tutorial thread, that might clear up any wonderings you have about my workflow.
http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,20764.msg306867.html#msg306867here is a more recent page workflow
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this is what I call "planned panels".
I don't plan them separately although I did want to try that out at some point.

Guidelines for confirmed placement of everything.

And finally details/text/ink

It's good to know where you're wrong, so that you can turn to where you're right. (Or should I say 'write')
Ehehe
But very true. And I'm hoping that by working at a more rough quality I'll hit more issues, and sooner, so it'll help to improve the initial steps of manga planning and writing.
'Pagination.' Holy heck I've learnt a new word and this Set is the one that's freaking me out
It's not as bad as it sounds, but I also hate this set the most. The final script is often just fixing typos from the draft script really, and then breaking it into lines that will be in the same panel,and then just drafting the pages and guidelines
Aaaaaaaaaah I get it! Dude that's awesome. It's like a cascading set of cups set under a tap that are pouring water into eachother (First cup recieves the most naturally, then tips and fills the 2nd, e.t.c) and in the end all cups are full! Noiiiiiice. I am stealing this hehe.
That's a perfect way of describing it, I love it. And it's a super useful method for spacing your work out so you come to it fresh a couple of times before it's finalised. Really it's just iterative stages, but on different pieces of work. In a week you will still do the same amount of work to produce one chapter of manga, but you're working on pieces of different chapters.
And I'm looking forward to a 'burst week' at a point hehe. Those are always epic.
tbh with the high workload level I'm working at now, a burst week would be me getting all the work done on the days I've planned, and getting a Sunday off to relax :P
That's always the thing right? 1) we still have things to do in our day to day lives and 2) There will, invetibly be a low motivation-too much responsibilities combo and that's the moment this process will be tested
You're telling me. I'm super anxious about these issues, but the more I become a weekly author I think the more my life will work around my art, and not the opposite. Basically becoming more pro.
But it's real practical knowing how far everything is.
Totally true, and as long as you keep it up to date it's helpful for quickly getting into gear to get on with the next stage.
Tips off the top of my head are cut off social media, make sure your phone isn't bothering you too much and feel free to plan vaguely for extra manga/projects. (Like just scribble).
Thanks. Mostly I'm doing better with social media,mostly just discord and MR that's the issue lately. And not really that much mostly. I've not had many new ideas actually since focusing so hard on this project, all my brain power is on getting this into the air. Also since testing that I can come up with new plot ideas given prompt words, I don't think I'll ever have to worry about not having an idea again. For my general note taking I don't worry about making typos and just throw the idea down on the page and move on.
I've hit an epic finish line before after writing a story and it's an awesome feeling, but it can also lead to a crash in productivity hehe. You probably know this though.
100%. And I'm hoping that this project will help me to get over that "finish line feeling" every time I finish a chapter of manga, and just get straight on with the next workload. Having a lot to do helps in that regard as I simply can't afford the time to stop and "celebrate".
I need to hear some of these masterplan theories.
Hmmmmm they're pretty messy tbh, and over time the purpose of the masterplan has changed as well. Typically it's either: my end game workflow, or: the steps needed to gain the skills to reach the end game. I'm not aiming low for my end game let me tell you.
But the theories are all based on certain aspects of mental biases and cognitive/psychological theories that I have mentioned before such as:
-decision paralysis
-cognitive load
-working memory
-choice overload
-pareto's principle
-context switching
and a bunch of my own theories and observations and experience.
With the goal of creating a god-level skill in art.
but it sounds a lot more amazing than it is, really it's just "how can I draw/write really well, as quick and efficient as possible?"
you know what doesn't work.... So that you know what does. It's not the best feeling in the world but it orients you very well.
Yeah...this project is basically deliberately set up to produce failure which leads to experience and skill gain, but the failure aspect is quite annoying to deal with so consistently :P
HOLY HARUHI WHAT THE HELL MAN
eheheh
*blush*
It's pretty mad I know. Basically when you cut out every step you "don't" need, you can work pretty quickly.
Pfft. You should see mine.
ahaha we both seem to like our super rough sketches don't we :P
I'd love to draw people sitting at a table in proper perspective. That'd be nice.
Yeah I've given up on that level of control, but I hope to get more controlled at some point. I can sort of ballpark it, but there's always a height issue with the characters growing or shrinking going on.
You should check out Sidonia no Kishi
Will do, I havent read it yet. Been a bit slow on manga reading lately, just dont have the time :P
I did have a quick glance though, it felt like a more organic form of the backgrounds in Battle Angel Alita. Very cool, would love to draw like that.
With nuance I'll say this: Take your time.
Oh for sure, I'm thinking at some point I might take a week hiatus from releasing chapters to do related skill-building that isn't covered in this project.
INB4 fully coloured weekly manga?
ehehe I have considered it, but coloured manga doesn't appeal to me to be honest. I think that I prefer the textured monochrome of normal manga, the coloured manga just feel like anime shots (generally speaking), and so it looses some of that level of expression. But there are some manhua that are a style that I like, so maybe I just have to find a coloured style that I like.