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Author Topic: Anime community is acting weird on YouTube  (Read 1181 times)

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Offline OhGodHelpMe

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Re: Anime community is acting weird on YouTube
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2019, 03:01:51 PM »
That's literally what a culture war is. This one isn't the first, nor the last.

I don't believe it only boils down to SJW's and anti-SJW's. There's a wider range of conflicting ideals fighting against each other right now. Whether it be nationalists vs globalists, capitalists vs socialists, conservatives vs liberals, right vs left, racial identitarians vs civic nationalists, middle class vs working class, gun owners vs gun law reformists, whatever. I didn't name two groups because there are a plethora of factions fighting against each other in different levels of society.


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Re: Anime community is acting weird on YouTube
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2019, 03:07:57 PM »
okay. since you mentioned it.

What group is using SJW and what group is using anti-SJW and for what purpose? You don't have to say which side you are in. 

I want you to answer that because the way you mentioned "we are in a culture war, whether you want to accept that fact or not" sounds alarmist to me. And if we are always in one, why are you alarmed???


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Re: Anime community is acting weird on YouTube
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2019, 03:33:43 PM »
SJW is a pretty popular term now. Damn near everyone uses it. Not as many people us anti-SJW and I couldn't tell you which group, if any, use it.

I don't find it alarmist when it's demonstrably true. We had a literal meme president win an election over the most PC mainstream politician of the century in a completely unexpected victory (well I expected it, but it came as a shock for almost everyone else). The cultural tension that existed before that only intensified afterwards.

I'm not alarmed about any of this, I just know that some kind of societal change happens at the end of a culture war, and it all depends on which side wins. In previous eras, this was settled quickly by just killing your opponent, but I don't think anyone knows how this will play out during the safest era of mankind's history, where solving your problems isn't as easy as shooting your neighbor.

All I want is for my anime and video games to stay lewd and strange.

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Re: Anime community is acting weird on YouTube
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2019, 03:50:10 PM »
okay, since you don't want to answer i will drop it.

Again, i agree with your "All I want is for my anime and video games to stay lewd and strange" statement.

But i'm not an extremist in which i will say, my country needs to accept loli games because Japan made it. EXTREME EXAMPLE.

Plus, you would think Parental Guidance Age limits would fix this. Maybe it's still the dumb perception that anime are cartoons and that means its for children. I don't know.  HULU says a lot of anime i watch is TVMA so i would not expect indecent to be an argument against a show.

I just hope people don't become reactionaries in large numbers. But i am seeing it become normal in anime community comment sections.


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Re: Anime community is acting weird on YouTube
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2019, 05:22:27 PM »
Corporations decide what is in and what is not. Consumers are only taken into account when it impacts their bottom line. Thereby if the majority of people have an issue with content, then subsequently corporations will attempt to alleviate that concern UNLESS the content already makes more than enough to cover their bottom line. Conversely if the content isn't special enough, not enough people will buy into their content, so they have to resort to more extreme measures to get a reaction.

Running a business is like feeding a machine. It doesn't care what's in it as long as it keeps printing money.
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Re: Anime community is acting weird on YouTube
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2019, 06:01:30 PM »
Corporations decide what is in and what is not. Consumers are only taken into account when it impacts their bottom line. Thereby if the majority of people have an issue with content, then subsequently corporations will attempt to alleviate that concern UNLESS the content already makes more than enough to cover their bottom line. Conversely if the content isn't special enough, not enough people will buy into their content, so they have to resort to more extreme measures to get a reaction.

Running a business is like feeding a machine. It doesn't care what's in it as long as it keeps printing money.

I think most would accept that, but when a group sees a youtube video about a blog, they put two and two together and come up with a conspiracy.

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Re: Anime community is acting weird on YouTube
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2019, 03:14:25 PM »
So I’m seeing the ethical points being raised. But in the back, I’m seeing anti-feminism, anti-diversity, and anti-you name it.
Welcome to anime?

Japan has been famous for its xenophobic culture for a long time... like forever.

Sure white people love it because it is mostly full of white people, this has allowed rapid adoption in America.  It is still lamented by great directors like Otomo who want Asian characters in anime. There are tragic arguments about how a Nordic goddess Sailor Moon is named "Tsukino Usagi" so she is Japanese but no one who has seen a Scandinavian believes that. You can change your name to whatever you want, You are clearly from Scandinavia.
Then you get to people who are not white.. Mr Popo is black face on a level that would get you buried in a hole so deep you would never be found, in the US. Golden age anime has black people as stereotypes that would make blaxploitation film makers uncomfortable. They are horrific  parodies that are supposed to be serious. Someone who is not black or white? Yeah they do not exist for the most part... Though a few directors are trying out Hispanic now.

Anti feminism? For every Major Kusinagi there are 100-1000? dim bulbs who are just there for fan lust/drama magnets (Full Metal Panic MC type girls).  Helpless, worthless, brainless female characters to the point of generating memes like "Lawful worthless" . So while we can salute them when a Kusinagi,  Gally/Alita, Iria, and even Winry Rockbell characters struts across the stage, we can't forget all the cKO type characters. Eww the infantilism.. *cringe*

Diversity? Yeah.. While Yaoi does exist it is for gay men and female fans. In main stream anime the gay guy is just an over the top butt for jokes. I think the only OK gay male characters come out of shojo, even  Fushugi Yugi had the guy in full drag. Earthian sucked but at least it was not insulting... well too insulting? again full drag. Not many gay guys are into drag.
Women being women? Yeah, there is extreme denial of sexual female relationships, not just being normal but existing. While I'm VERY gregarious I can't remember the last time I met a girl or woman who was straight by "man rules", yet in anime normal women do not exist. Confucianism and then Christianity really did a number on Japan as far as women are concerned.  Pretty much most female characters in anime trend towards "hot" they also tend to be desexualized/neutered.

Trans? They do not exist in anime unless you want to count Hentai's futa (in which case hentai leads the world in acceptance!).. We are not counting futa. Ranma doesn't count either.

Even hetro relationships beyond parent characters are super messed up. Any relationship where they have sex is an extreme rarity. I suspect this repression is why Japan produces more porn than any other country.

We may love anime but it is not PC and never has been. We can't just erase its crimes because of how much we love it. While I may love Mad Bull I will never suggest it is an accurate or respectful portrayal of ANYONE.
So it is a great battle ground for SJWs and the other side of the hate coin, Incels to fight on. I say let them fight on, in 10 years hopefully both sides reread all their posts and feel stupid.
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