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Author Topic: Nobuhiro Watsuki was arrested!  (Read 136 times)

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Nobuhiro Watsuki was arrested!
« on: November 21, 2017, 03:27:24 PM »
Kenshin's author Nobuhiro Watsuki was arrested for possessing child pornography:

https://kotaku.com/rurouni-kenshin-creator-charged-with-possessing-child-p-1820633519/amp

What are your reactions to this news?

For me, I am shocked and disgusted, I used to look up to someone like him but, now I don't know...


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Re: Nobuhiro Watsuki was arrested!
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2017, 03:32:51 PM »
Alright. Time for inappropriate joke.


But seriously. I read what he likes. Yeah... no...

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Re: Nobuhiro Watsuki was arrested!
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2017, 03:53:45 PM »
I never would have expected anything like that, I mean, he was someone that I used to respect but now, I regret ever doing so.

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Re: Nobuhiro Watsuki was arrested!
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2017, 03:56:28 PM »
This should bring up the topic, can you separate the work from the artist? Since I was never a fan, I have no qualms. If it was Oda, hmmm, I would still read one piece. But I would look for signs in the story.

I think I am more pissed that this will add another mark on being a manga/anime fan.
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Re: Nobuhiro Watsuki was arrested!
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2017, 04:08:38 PM »
It is hard to do but, it should not be impossible, sure, in the beginning it will always pop back into our heads,
but IMO, after a certain amount of time passes it should also become two different matters: The Artist made this manga but like a book, you can hate the author even if they write a story that you like or, the opposite.

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Re: Nobuhiro Watsuki was arrested!
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2017, 04:09:31 PM »
Nuuuuuuuuuu what the hell is up with this year. Rorouni Kenshin!! Dammit.

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Re: Nobuhiro Watsuki was arrested!
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2017, 04:33:33 PM »
Nuuuuuuuuuu what the hell is up with this year. Rorouni Kenshin!! Dammit.



A lot of things really did happen this year, I almost feel depress just thinking about it...

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Re: Nobuhiro Watsuki was arrested!
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2017, 07:14:22 PM »
Damn, that's really no good. Kenshin was something seminal in my childhood, and I can't let this take that away, but I can't in good conscience allow him to profit after something like this.

I think this may be the one good argument for pirating.

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Re: Nobuhiro Watsuki was arrested!
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2017, 08:44:21 PM »
For me, fiction and reality are separate. That is an absolute, not some contrived gray-area in which we attempt to twist the message into some other meaning. For many, fiction is an outlet for tendencies that would most certainly not be accepted in real life. Indeed, this idea is protected wholly under the platform of Freedom of Speech. Conversely however, you shouldn't be forcing your "fictional" fetishes onto the real world. That's where you cross the line and generally isn't accepted. That's why you have authors and artists diving into very controversial subjects such as extreme gore, sexual fantasies, and other grotesque things, yet none of them are jailed for such expressions, but the moment those fetishes cross into reality is when one steps too far. It's when people lack the self-control to subdue these fetishes that becomes the problem.

You don't hear about Hiroshi Hiroyama, the guy responsible for "Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA?ILLYA" getting flak for... this:
Somewhat Lewd...


Yet the moment Nobuhiro Watsuki, the guy behind Rurouni Kenshin, which quite frankly the story had nothing even remotely to do with the allegations, gets convicted of child pornography, Rurouni Kenshin is suddenly "Forbidden"?
Spoiler


To me, that's just people getting their priorities mixed up and not having the maturity to understand that fiction is by no means Reality itself. Some people have a view that posing things in fiction is by its own an extension of reality, but that's just drawing false conclusions from preconceived biases. If those people were to have their way, we wouldn't be able to criticize the government because apparently writing books about rebellion is in itself the author wanting to commit treason... as an example. Thus why the concept of "Exclusive Separation of Fiction and Reality" is vitally important for Every Form of Media. It's why in Japan people like Hiroshi Hiroyama are free to do whatever they want with their work because it falls under this definition of Free Speech. Now if you were to try to pull the same stunt in the US, you could bet you'd have the police scourging your home for "Vile Content" despite the hypocrisy of it all.

Priorities...  :( People never seem to get it right. You'd think people would keep a calm mind and think rationally about these things, but apparently "going with the herd" is a much easier option... it's like that thing with Bill Cosby. The guy deserves everything that comes for him, but what's that stopping you from enjoying the humor behind the shows? Am I going to stop watching House of Cards because "Kevin Spacey"? No, I am not. And while people might jump on me saying that "You're supporting a bad person," I should remind them that criminals don't get a single penny when convicted. The revenue they make goes to the State instead to fund their incarceration (to add insult to injury  8) )

I... might have went a bit far in this rant, but I'll just conclude that I'm going to enjoy whatever media I wish to my benefit, regardless of any outside controversy that occurs. Let the legal system sort them out. I'm just the average joe looking for entertainment.  :o Now when it comes to controversies that directly impacts me (Looking at you, EA...  :cop: ) that's a different story.

But hey, feel free to enjoy Rurouni Kenshin as much as you like. Don't let emotions cloud your rational mind, and if anything, look upon it as exploiting the criminal's hard work for your own gain  8)
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Re: Nobuhiro Watsuki was arrested!
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2017, 09:23:56 PM »
I guess you can say he's not much of a Noblehiro anymore huh?
If any of the girls were amputees, he probably had lewd fantasies about the Nishiwalks on, eh? EHHH?

Yes that was a child amputee pornography pun. Yes I'm an awful person.