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Japan's Sex Culture.
« on: May 11, 2015, 04:05:34 PM »
I always knew Japan had a very different view on sex and relationships than that of the the western world. I mean, from what I've grown up with and what I've been surrounded by, Sex has always been a very open topic. Growing up, it's always a curious aspect of adolescence but in Japan there still seems to be a very childlike and prudish view on sex & relationships but there is also a group of people who feel very cold and bitterly about it.

Vice is an international news channel and they do some incredible documentaries and they did this really interesting one on Japanese Sex Culture, it really gives an idea of the mentality of why they feel and think the way they do and why an entire country feels like that.

The host club industry is HUGE. Some hosts make as much as 800,000 a year. I just think that's insane. No different from some of the high-class escort services, but this is literally JUST talking and making someone feel welcome. Escorts have a whole different expectation to live up to.

I do really recommend you watch this, it's only 15 minutes, well worth it.
http://www.vice.com/video/the-japanese-love-industry

Though, I do feel this way of thinking is quite damaging, a lot of people completely denounce the idea of being in a relationship, feel that it's a waste of time. And, in a way, that's totally up to them of course, but I feel that the idea has come from a very bitter place due to the lack of sexual openness and education on it.

I mean, no matter how hard the teachers at school tried to tell you sex was bad, I educated myself. I'm so sick of over-protective parents lying to their children about sex and drugs. Be honest and your kid will be too.

However, Japan is on a whole other level... I mean, I'm not wrong, am I?
« Last Edit: May 11, 2015, 04:13:18 PM by Mysie »

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Re: Japan's Sex Culture.
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2015, 04:31:39 PM »
To be honest, I feel like this is just one of those things that the U.S. goes through all the time. Pretty much everything on tumblr gets blown up wide scale, whether it's just a dress, or girls feeling oppressed for wearing tampons.

I think it just happens because we've had it good for a while now. Nothing incredibly drastic has happened since 9/11, and at that time, everybodys problem was focused on that. That was more than a decade ago, and now look at us. We're constantly trying to find a problem, maybe it's just human nature idk. Fact is, human beings need obstacles to overcome.

And Japan, they go through trends so fast like the world is ending, I wouldn't be surprised if this was old news next month. Not having sex could even be the least of their problems, but with the internet, those small things become magnified to a large scale epidemic.

Last thought, I've watched vice before, the guy seems cool, but reality is, you just have to go see for yourself and not believe whatever amazing footage they happened to get is the root of all things. It's like watching the discovery channel and thinkin all of Africa is the Sahara desert just because that's the only main thing we see on TV.

That's my whole thought of it all, but you gotta give the Japanese more credit. There are a ton of people over there on a land that's no bigger than California, and even then, they hold their sh** together fairly well.

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Re: Japan's Sex Culture.
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2015, 05:31:14 PM »
That's my whole thought of it all, but you gotta give the Japanese more credit. There are a ton of people over there on a land that's no bigger than California, and even then, they hold their sh** together fairly well.

I can agree with about half of that. I might be going into a stereotypes a little bit here but, they're stereotypes for a reason, right? They have been described as having a small underlining of deep seeded unhappiness about the people. And, there are a lot of theories...

- Housing is small and impersonal
- School is a constant competition, pressure sets in

As vague and as little as those examples are, they're incredibly vital for basic human happiness. I don't think my argument is strong enough, but I do think they need to be taken into consideration.

I do agree with a lot of what you've said and you've made some really interesting points and I think there are a lot of Japanese customs that the western world could really take examples from.

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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2015, 06:39:01 PM »
Yes housing is small, so are the roads, so are the cars, so are the cute little refrigerators, so are many things over there that it's proportional. You'd be surprised how big a typical Japanese house looks on the inside than it does on the outside, not to mention, almost everyone of them have enough space for a spare traditional room with tatami mats. Google image this stuff, you might be surprised. I'm 6'3" tall, and I'm saying this, compared to the rest of the population, you'd even have to order special size shoes for me over there. You know what's small and impersonal compared to that stuff when it comes to housing? Our showers/bathroom. Here in the U.S we get a small shower not to mention, it's right next to the toilet. I couldn't take a bath if I wanted to, not to mention it's gross because it's the tub I shower in. Whereas in Japan, you get a whole room as a shower, an actual decent sized bathtub to go with it, and the toilets in a separate room. It's the same for those 6 story buildings full of hundred of homes for people, or mansions as they like to call em. They are bigger than most apartments you'd find in the New York lol.

When it comes to school, it's so vastly different from what our system is, I can't even make a comparison. I kinda wish I had that kind of school life sometimes. Either way, I don't know a single kid that hasn't been stressed from school, anywhere...period. Whether it's from education or social status.

We have our problems too, I feel like our generation has gotten so pressured into going to college, and now look. We got hundreds of kids in debt, unhappy, and would rather kill themselves than work a crappy job that they don't even like. Same with me, I'm a stupid idiot who got pressured into going to college, even though I was already happy with my life and current job at 16. You can guess that the rest didn't turn out so great, I'm not gonna go into that hell hole.

But I'm not debating with you, I hate arguing about anything, rather I'm just saying that sometimes you gotta take things with a grain of salt. It just irritates me because I know that if some foreigner came up to me here in the U.S. and was like "Is it true that you guys don't like sex?" or "Is it true that a lot of people over here are suicidal?", I would be straight up be pissed off. Just imagine if that happened to you in Amsterdam, the whole world thinks you guys don't have sex anymore. No, of course that's not happening right? lol


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Re: Japan's Sex Culture.
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2015, 07:18:52 PM »
Relevant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PKwcJVa3dU

Also relevant to Japans "Herbivore movement" is the "MGTOW movement" here in NA.

Also whats sex positive? I all for it within reason. Just dont go overboard with it.
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Re: Japan's Sex Culture.
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2015, 09:39:06 PM »
I tried to watch the whole video but I got to the part where the owner of the cuddle cafe was like "we got girls who'll clean your ears with q-tips" and I was like "K I'm done" lol

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Re: Japan's Sex Culture.
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2017, 01:51:46 PM »
Youre not wrong, but at the same time, youre not right.

Japanese system is not perfect, nor is any other existing system. And when it comes down to choosing, I definitely prefer a teenage girl that does not want any sex and stuff than a teenage girl that has sex every other day.

And I am like that too. I am pretty shy and strict in relationships. I am sick of the western system. None of my relationships lasted, all my girlfriends cheated on me. You know why? Because I did not want to sleep with them just after 2 weeks of relationship. Is this seriously what you prefer? Think about it.

Sidenote: For me, I need to know that person for a long time before I start dating that person. Also, confession, either from my side or side of that person is needed. Dating someone when you do not even know if you like that person or if that person likes you? Pointless. Even when relationship is sucessful, I am against PDA (Public display of affection, google it). I would not kiss a person before I know that person well. So first contact (kiss) will be after like 3 weeks, even later. And sex? Maybe after months.

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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2018, 07:56:05 AM »
Sex culture in Japan can be a HUGE topic of discussion. People like to say that the Japanese are shy and private about sex life in Japan but I'd say it's a hugely different story.

Oh man, I just deleted 6 huge paragraphs on this subject but I'll simplify it. The paragraphs that I wrote were still a generalization and there is still a LOT of information that I can add onto them.

I wouldn't say that the Japanese are shy about sex at all. They learn about it from a young age and censorship in japan is a lot different than it is in the west. It's moreso that they view and talk about sex in a different way.

For example, I visited Japan a few years back to check out a school I was interested in transferring to. While there, I stayed with my ex girlfriend and her brother who was a great friend of mine in high school. Walking down the streets in Shibuya we heard a group of older men (maybe in their late 30s) talking about going to a soapland. I was familiar with the Japanese term because my friend and I joked about going a bunch of times and it's mentioned a few times in the Yakuza game series I'm a fan of.

In my time there, I hit up a few clubs with my friends. Every weekend a lot of the top names in the Japanese music industry would actually be playing in these clubs and crowds would gather for the music. Best part is that getting a VIP table is generally fairly cheap as long as you get bottle service (about $75 for a cheap bottle). From those tables it was easy to see the crowds moving about and how strangers would dance, drink with each other, and hook up. Love hotels were everywhere and they're just like the anime and documentaries. xD

Beyond my experiences, I wouldn't say that the Japanese are shy about sex. It's more like they're focused on other things and treat sex as a commodity. In high school and university they're told to focus on studying and club activities to improve their resumes so that they may find good jobs. Once they actually get to working, sex becomes difficult simply because of scheduling confilcts and energy/sex drive.

My high school friend had an interesting insight;
"Working in Japan, it's not about actually working hard but making it LOOK like you're doing a lot of work."

Not to say they don't get a lot of work done. The way he sees it, they do in 12 hours what can normally be done in 4 to 6. It's not because of laziness. They have an incentive to look like they're working harder to get a bigger bonus. If someone is seen leaving the office early, it's generally seen as leaving everyone else in your team behind. From there they try to outdo one-another and work just ends up building.

By the time they get home, it's already pretty late and they're exhausted. =P
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