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Author Topic: Whats Up With Yaoi Lately???  (Read 1032 times)

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Whats Up With Yaoi Lately???
« on: November 20, 2014, 10:28:25 AM »
Okay im startign to get a bit pissed off with yaoi thesed days, something always is wrong in the subject err.... well in my opinion. For example there was "Love Stage!" the anime. its supposed to be yaoi and yet they made the boy look straight up like a girl. it just pisses me off on the subject that if its yaoi which if you dont know what it means, it means guy on guy or boyslove, two male charcters deeply in love with eachother. If there supposed to be both guys why go to the hassle of making one of them look more like a girl?

Or going into another example, "DRAMAtical Murder" it was a game before it started out as an anime, and if you dont know they showed some explicit yaoi moments in the game. but yet in the anime there was 2 to 3 yaoi moments in total that was in the anime. Its almost like your downgradeding yaoi......

=3= err... i just get upset thats all, what are your guys opinions? can you relate with me? or do you just dont care ??  :heart:

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Re: Whats Up With Yaoi Lately???
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2014, 10:37:09 AM »
I've noticed a lot of other things about yaoi that upsets me with their stereotypes..but maybe that's just because I don't really care for yaoi. Sorry you're upset, but did this really need a thread? (No offense.)

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Re: Whats Up With Yaoi Lately???
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2014, 10:37:37 AM »
@Lorenx1 would be a good person to ask about this  :hmm:

Normally when writing yaoi or yuri characters, it makes it easier to characterise them when a guy is portrayed as girly or a girl as a tomboy. Having such differences between the main couple allows for more conflict, fetishes, drama and so on. That's how I would see it anyways  :hmm:

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Re: Whats Up With Yaoi Lately???
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2014, 10:42:04 AM »
Yaoi has always been that way....those are made by women for women. Keeep in mind that yaoi is more designed for women. And another point is that these comics arent designed to have great stories, just meant to get girls riled up. Its more of a fantasy than genuinely portraying two gay people. You're not alone, many people relate to you. Even Japanese manga readers relate to you. Theres a manga that points out that they thought it was a girl on the cover but is actually a boy.

It bothers me, but ive managed to read other works.
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Re: Whats Up With Yaoi Lately???
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2014, 10:45:59 AM »
I suppose if that's the problem then there's always bara that you could try..I personally wouldn't recommend those genres though.

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Re: Whats Up With Yaoi Lately???
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2014, 10:49:58 AM »
I have yet to find a yaoi manga where it genuinely portrays gay men and not be a smut. Yuri manages more better.
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Re: Whats Up With Yaoi Lately???
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2014, 10:57:10 AM »
Yuri has its downsides, too, I will admit, but I'll always take it over yaoi. I completely understand that smut sells, but seriously, emotional development in ANY case would be nice.. :glare:

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Re: Whats Up With Yaoi Lately???
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2014, 10:59:30 AM »
Yuri is split between males and females. The ones intended for females are far more plot oriented. BLUE is a josei yuri manga that comes to mind
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Re: Whats Up With Yaoi Lately???
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2014, 11:14:50 AM »
The reverse seems to be true with yaoi, in which the girls get the smut and the men get..decently written smut?? (at least, from what I've heard. I gave up on the genre years ago.)

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Re: Whats Up With Yaoi Lately???
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2014, 11:19:07 AM »
I have yet to find decently written smut even for the ones designed for men...I could even say it was smuttier. I dont want to give details, but rather than the tall slim toned pretty face, its a heavily built, tan, puffy lips.
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Re: Whats Up With Yaoi Lately???
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2014, 11:20:42 AM »
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Re: Whats Up With Yaoi Lately???
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2014, 01:31:51 PM »
I think it may be an accessibility thing too...

Especially in the case of DRAMAtical Murder I heard that there is a scene in the game
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where Aoba's robot dog transforms into his human form and the pair have sex
and considering the restrictions in Japanese television, it would never have gotten aired at all had they stayed true to the game in that respect. I wasn't made uncomfortable by the Yaoi moments in the anime at all but I never felt as if that show needed more on the romantic side, if anything I think that would have taken away from what little interesting plot the show ended up having.

Yaoi definitely has a stigma of being female fantasies though, which is a shame, because if it was treated with the same seriousness as writing convincing heterosexual relationships then it could definitely add a new dimension to manga. I'd even potentially like to see homosexual relations in mangas that are not specifically Yaoi or Yuri, not going over the top romantic but being clearly inferred, and not just in the way of a comical character.

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Re: Whats Up With Yaoi Lately???
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2014, 04:00:27 PM »
I'm personally a huge fujoshi, and my theory as to why most yaoi ukes (bottoms) look girly is because they're supposed to represent girls. We want to read/watch romance, but the girl in the relationship is usually a turn-off, so yaoi solves that. But at the same time, we still need to feel part the bxb relationship, so ukes are usually portrayed as somewhat girly.

yea most yaoi anime tend to avoid straightforward explicit scenes ;;
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Re: Whats Up With Yaoi Lately???
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2014, 10:20:49 AM »
I can see where you guys are coming from, its not the fact that they resemble or act girlly that makes me upset cause ive enjoyed manga and yaoi with situations like that. its the fact on some characters (refering into love stage or no money) look so much like a girl its ridiculous. lets look at love stage for example, they made him walk like a girl dress like a girl ( :unsure: even when he was wearing normal clothing it looked as if it was for girls), i dont mean to get a little too much into this topic :o but it just frustrates me that they think they could basically make a girl and say "oh its okay hes a guy so it really dosent matter :thumbsup:" into the manga or anime.

and actually i do enjoy bara. I prefer it more over regular yaoi or shotacon (which in my opinion is kinda weird :blush:)

and going to the topic about dramatical murder, im not saying they should make into something like boku no pico, or sensetive pornography. but since its a yaoi anime based off a perverted game you would think there would a little bit more... you know action or something xD :heart: