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Starter Gallery / Re: Man Listen...
« Last post by Fronomenal on June 20, 2018, 09:56:08 PM »
Lol thanks Sis (Can I call you Sis? Screw it I'm calling you Sis anyway :tongue:). Those old works of yours definitely had a unique style to them.  Definitely ten times better than anything I can come up with right now lol.

And you know, besides being too broke to pay for an artist, once you see 1000 sketches worth of amazing art from your fellow Raider peers over a seven year stretch, you kinda start to think to yourself, "Ya know, I'm pretty sure I can do that too if I actually try."
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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Robin's Sketchbook
« Last post by Coryn on June 20, 2018, 09:52:16 PM »
Don't do it.
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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Robin's Sketchbook
« Last post by Robin Ryuu on June 20, 2018, 09:51:00 PM »
Been considering binge-watching Bleach for the 6th time. Somebody stop me. I got more important things to do.
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Starter Gallery / Re: Man Listen...
« Last post by MahluaandMilk on June 20, 2018, 09:39:19 PM »
Man do not worry about a thing. I saw this:

And got hype as hell for you, man. MR has a bit of a habit of turning writers into begrudging artists. Back at it again with everybody being too broke to hire artists to work with them! But seriously, don't you worry about a thing. My first art attempts look something like this:

All I can say is keep at it, and I'll be right up here with you for the long run for it.
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Starter Gallery / Man Listen...
« Last post by Fronomenal on June 20, 2018, 09:30:00 PM »
In the chit chat topic I mentioned I actually sat down and drew something while using one of my friend's sketches as a reference...

*Deep sigh* Man listen...

I've always wanted to dabble in the realm of art, but figured I'd be better off staying in my own lane of writing. But yesterday something inside of me triggered, and told me "Man DRAW SOMETHING RIGHT NOW!" The voice was aggressive too, almost felt like it was holding a figurative gun to my head, acting all gangsta and ish. Anyways, I listened, picked out an old sketch my friend drew for me years ago, and attempted to draw it just by looking at it, no tracing.

This was the result...

Friend's original sketch


My version

Now let me say this...

I'm actually thinking about committing to this art thing. I know I'm trash, and I know my attempt just now was trash, but i had fun doing it (I was just messing around when I did it) and I might as well test the limits of what I'm capable of, right? I really don't have much to lose. I also been taking a look at learning animation, and quite honestly besides wanting to learn how to draw, I also secretly loved the idea of learning to animate, whether it be 2d or 3d.

I already found and began reading a book on the fundamentals of drawing art, so I guess I'm not giving myself much say in the matter lol. But baby steps are important and trust me when I say I'm not diving straight into this pool. Not sure if I'll post anything else here in this topic, but I guess it'll be nice to have it around in case I do have more trash to drop in here.
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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Kohaku's Improvement Gallery. C and C ENCOURAGED!!
« Last post by Lord Kesashi on June 20, 2018, 09:25:25 PM »
One thing to consider for when you start drawing again is something my figure-drawing professor told my class at the beginning of the semester. She said to throw the number of heads guideline out of your arsenal of techniques. The only use for that guideline is if, and only if, the figure is standing at eye level, facing you straight on, and are standing stiff as a board (and only if the figure has "perfect" proportions). At any other time foreshortening comes into play and will look strange if you try to fight the change in size/proportion it causes.

That being said there is a way to use the heads to your advantage. Drawing from imagination doesn't follow the same rules as drawing from life, but when drawing from life rather than assuming the person is 7 heads tall, you have to measure their head and then find out how many heads tall they are. Then you could find at what point does their pelvis begin, or how many heads long their arms are. Drawing from imagination, I don't think anyone will mind if your figures are perfectly proportional because they aren't trying to capture a likeness.

This is why when drawing from imagination we assign a head count to our figures, but when drawing from life, the figure must give us their head count.

There are some good things happening here, but the composition itself has created some challenges for you. The figure is off balance. This can be used to your advantage in a figure that's moving or about to run, but for a figure that's supposed to be standing still, it becomes a problem.

You want the figure to appear in 2 point perspective and you've placed a horizon line in the center of the figure. There's nothing wrong with the horizon line. But you should know that the horizon line references the height of the person looking at her. It's your eye level. Some photographers will kneel down to make the photo more dramatic and help center the person in the frame.

Here you can see the difference between a photo taken by a photographer and a photo taken by an amateur who is the same height as the woman.

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The horizon line can work to your advantage in the middle here. This means that the shoulders and the hips will appear to be converging or diverging.

The best way to handle this would be to fit the figure inside a large box and then put that box into perspective. Then you can draw the details of the figure inside of the box, and you can create a gravity line in the midpoint of the box in order to balance the figure properly. Once you have that box, drawing the figure inside should feel easy and intuitive.

The gravity doesn't actually have to be in the middle. There just needs to be something to hold the figure up. Sometimes people will lean and shift their weight onto one leg when they've been standing for a long time. When this happens you'll likely see one foot line up with the head vertically.
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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Kohaku's Improvement Gallery. C and C ENCOURAGED!!
« Last post by KohakuRiver on June 20, 2018, 08:45:21 PM »
One thing to consider for when you start drawing again is something my figure-drawing professor told my class at the beginning of the semester. She said to throw the number of heads guideline out of your arsenal of techniques. The only use for that guideline is if, and only if, the figure is standing at eye level, facing you straight on, and are standing stiff as a board (and only if the figure has "perfect" proportions). At any other time foreshortening comes into play and will look strange if you try to fight the change in size/proportion it causes.

This is so accurate and telling, I don't know why I never realized this. Thank you so much. I used the guideline for the heads because when I first started the sketch her body seemed really squished, and then I realized my canvas wasn't big enough. Then I stretched it out, used the heads as a reference. I think I just need more examples of reference pictures online. But when I google "woman on beach" I get a lot of a intresting pictures lol.
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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Robin's Sketchbook
« Last post by Robin Ryuu on June 20, 2018, 07:11:35 PM »
Ah, thank you. I'm a fan of her design myself haha. I think I considered giving her bracers at one point. The asymmetrical idea is worth trying too, so I'll see what I come up with. (And dead on with the personality, glad it comes across.)
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Manga Art Gallery / Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
« Last post by MahluaandMilk on June 20, 2018, 07:07:35 PM »
@Robin I've actually never used black to shade with on things that weren't grey or dark brown, and even then, that was when I was younger. It never looked right to me. Even before I touched color theory, I already kind of subconsciously followed the basic rule of using a darker value/different saturation color for shading, and learned a trick about color temperature fairly early in the game (that is, shade warm on cool colors and shade cool on warm colors, depending on the light). I suppose starting with colored pencil helped a lot in that regard. Dev and I had a conversation about that in the Discord chat the other day, actually.

I just hate actually reading anything about fundamentals since I would rather feel them out. Bad news about that is that I absolutely suck when it comes to values. Because of how my brain computes how colors "behave" and interact with one another, I cannot for the life of me start anything in greyscale. It all just looks wrong. I hate it, hate it, hate it. My brain just can't understand colors as values because then I get too ahead of myself and confused since I think so much about that color behavior.

I willingly accept what you've said about colors affecting the way shadows look, though, because that "makes sense" to my color brain. Of course surrounding colors have an impact on other colors nearby. I feel a little stupid for not remembering that. Kind of a lightbulb moment there. Thanks for that.

(Grumbles) still, f*ckin values can f*ck right off...confusing nonsense...(grumble grumble)
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CosPlay / Re: Suuper's Sewing and Crafts (Not quite cosplay yet)
« Last post by MahluaandMilk on June 20, 2018, 06:52:35 PM »
I also prefer to work small, haha. Sorry to hear about the sewing machine. I hope you can get it fixed or get a new one soon!
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