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Manga Artists Wanted / Re: (Unpaid) In need of a Manga Artist! :3
« on: February 05, 2015, 03:36:32 PM »
first, agree on nomena had say, even you able to find a artist like this, the % of the artist stop working half way is very high. and the exp artist will not just  help any people who come here ( like me)

although i do have Q, if your story is already what you say fully written out , i take it as complete.
why will you call it as work together? it will be more like if the artist like your story take it and change to manga.

unless you are going to rewrite your story to fit what the artist want. 

just to say writing a story in word is very diff from manga. unless you write it very detail. 

Manga Artists Wanted / Re: Manga Artist Needed (PAID)
« on: February 01, 2015, 02:40:41 AM »
the thing you should also take note are the time, if 1 chap got 20 page, it may take more then a  month .
so 200 page mean 10 chap , it may take more then a year.

that you should think about that too.

again it is better to give more information.

Manga Artists Wanted / Re: Manga Artist Needed (PAID)
« on: January 31, 2015, 04:25:14 AM »
it is best to always give more detail, if you don't want other to quit half way. so other will know what they will sign up for.  and you never say what type of story this will be. ( although it very like the legend of korra in many way.)

and i am sure people will like to know why will you find another person to draw when you able to draw.

and you will also need to let people know how are you going to work with the artist, with a script or a sketch/name/storyboard, or other way.

and 200 page, that will take very long and alot of money, so it is best to make thing clear and detail.

detail is very important my friend.

so basically you are saying there is no need to change anything that you are doing now , cause you think it is the best. as that base on?

and i am not discourage you, i am just saying that the happen most the time, what people have do and done, and what happen after that. i just told you the true of what is happening , if you call that discourage then i am.

and again , i am saying thing that i had see so many time, if that does not help you , i guess nothing else can really help . and i am telling you what a artist will think of after what they see how your write and what you will do.  that does not help? well guess that i got too much hope for you.

and 1 last thing, you say from your last post that artist should also share the work of making story , the true 50/50
then let me ask you are you going to do the artist side of job? (beside designing char , i know you writer love to do alot of thing for char with out drawing the detail) 

and 1 really last thing , i had also see alot of artist at start say work with a writer , but not long later the artist will go missing or just say stop doing it.

most writer always like to say , that you want the artist to make the story also. but from what i can see now is just that i am looking at a not complete story , if you want the artist , to have anything to with the story, all he need to do is edit , when it is complete .

and trust me, not matter how detail you write, it can't be as detail as the artist need  to do. ( unless you have drawing exp in story board)  so in the end,  if that is what you want to do only and leave it to the artist  then i got not much to say after this.

so, base on what i understand , you are only done with the first drift, a not complete drift, that is fine but again you have make 7 chap but none is complete?

and have you really try to make it detail first? again it is best to show the true writing that you will show to the artist, because artist will base on that way of showing to understand. it is important that you understand, artist will only able to understand anything base on the thing that you write on the script/drift , and don't hope for the artist to understand by keep asking you thing, that will be very slow and too much work.

show a true complete writing, a little is enough.

base on what you had write, well all i can really say is that who ever going to draw it it will be hard.
pushing too much thing to the artist,  and it does not make a diff that you write more like a movie then a manga.
it just not detail enough. the artist will have to add in alot more detail to be able to draw it.  and some may think that the artist job , but i see it more on, who able to do it.

and you had asking about me,  well i just a artist that seen too many writer  that want to find a artist.
although i had see too many writer does not understand how  many thing the artist will need to do, and how hard it is to make a manga, even though they say they do understand.

so all i can say is very hard to find a artist, and you will get use to it.


just to say like most people that want to find a artist, it is best to give more information about your self at the welcome Center . and give more information about the story , artist need to see your story, how you write your story and how you going to show your story to the artist. and not just idea,  most people who trying to find artist always have ideal, but never really have the story , or ready for the artist to do anything, beside drawing some char.

so my advise will be post some of your writing so people understand your writing skill, and give alot more information then what you have, not just the ideal but more of the detail. detail is the most important for artist to understand what and how to draw it.

just to say, i think it is best to give more information then what you had.
now the problem that i see is not just the story but also the problem of the team.
when you working in a team there will always have problem , and the information that you give is simple just asking for a artist, and a simple information of the ideal.

from my exp, the real problem is always the team, and now there is so many so call writer, and 1 busy artist?
you should list out what do you want from the artist, and what is the team already doing.

make it detail, so people understand what you are looking for. 

but if you just want people to join first , and understand how is going . you will have a big number of people, and no 1 doing anything.

... i agree with what amaomai had say.

and base on what you had say, you want the artist to be the person to draw, person to write, person to think the story, person to do the planing ,  the person to design the char,and  the person to design the background and draw.
and   i forget last thing, the person that able to make 200 chap.

well i guess you will need to find a person that got more skill and better then pro.

well good luck with finding a person that able to do that.  and let not forget if any 1 is that pro and so good, why will he or she do your story and not just make his or her story?

so my advise will be make a story that is sooo good that people beg you to let him or her to do it.
and last thing, do show your writing, or drawing to get people like your story more.

Manga Artists Wanted / Re: "Writer" looking for artist.
« on: January 21, 2015, 11:14:34 PM »
i don't really think any 1 is really going to draw it for you, since there is not much meaning.
it is better for you to just focus on the story , when is done then think about finding a artist to help you.

Develop Your Story / Re: The Cities of Gods
« on: January 19, 2015, 12:56:45 AM »
well again, you will understand when you make the story, you say is not that hard, but i see is very hard.
few reason, 1 of the reason will be you have no exp , this is a new way of doing thing for you, and there not much people  had done this way of doing so you can't learn from it and also prove that is very hard, and i am very sure it can't go to a manga/anime, atlast it will need to edit alot of thing.

so here you will have to ready for the very hard thing. no 1  understand your story.

Manga Artists Wanted / Re: Manga Artist needed as a mentor
« on: January 19, 2015, 12:50:48 AM »
first you will need to show your drawing, so other can see your level of drawing skill and what you had been learning.

although i say that, i believe that you will need to learn the basic skill which most people that learn them self really need.
3 basic of drawing, shadow, perspective , and eye of view.
shadow, in another word is the inside line .
perspective, it is a must for building type of drawing. but for high level can be use in any type.( if you know how to use it)
eye of view, that is the hard part ,normally when you draw , what you see is not what you get, eye will lie to you of what you see.
 it will take some time to train your eye  on how to see the thing.   the only simple way of saying how to train it is by copy drawing. it is best to copy real life drawing over manga/anime drawing.

and 1 last thing, don't start your drawing by follow, how to draw manga type of book.
they jumped some thing, is not the best book for new drawer .  and if you ask me what type of book, well i can't
tell cause , i will say 1 how to draw book but is Chinese.
but still you can find information on the net about the basic thing i say, or you can search more of it on the net.

Develop Your Story / Re: Manga idea
« on: January 18, 2015, 01:34:25 PM »
i don't really know what to say about the idea.......

but from what i understand is more like a school life type of story, although with all the weird race.

can't say is a good or bad ideal with out more detail of what the story will be.
it have to see how you make the detail, what the detail about.  if your aim of making this ideal in to a more school life type of story i think should be ok, since is fun and so on.
but if you want to make other type of story with this ideal , it may not end up well. since it will be very confuse. it will be wost if you want to make it into a fighting type of story or war type of story. (school life and fighting is ok , just don't make the story about fighting.)

although i must say it may be too early for you to find a artist, as i see you don't even have a story yet, and i am guessing that your skill is not there yet.  any artist who help you will have to do alot of thing , which will be wost for him or her to make a manga them self.

Manga Writers wanted / Re: Looking for Artist/Writer Inspiration needed!
« on: January 17, 2015, 09:56:36 PM »
when make a ideal, you should think of what is the selling point, what people will like in the ideal.

and not able all the new ideal or compare with other story .

and the harder part in make a story is about the detail.

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