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Messages - MisterSherbetLemon

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General Manga writer discussions / Re: Flow Charts
« on: February 19, 2018, 03:38:39 PM »
I use mindly when I'm travelling on the bus to map out the stuff I've written in detail and it definitely helps me spot the little inconsistencies.

MR Pub / Re: Chit Chat 2018
« on: February 19, 2018, 03:29:13 PM »
You guys don't know Ghost-town MR. This is nothing haha. But it is nice to see old faces suddenly popping up around here. Surreal to think that Nyo made an appearance even. Sherbert I thought had been eaten by lions or something

Nothing eats Sherbet, Sherbet eats the lions then goes for a long nap.

Think we need a group activity on here that doesn't require crazy commitment :P Used to take part in a lot of text based simrpgs back in the day, always found them fun to drop in on.

Any thoughts/ideas?

Video / PC Games / Re: Monster Hunter: World
« on: February 05, 2018, 03:16:33 PM »
Think I'm going to trade it in to be honest,

I've been enjoying it but it's basically just a big time sink and I don't really have the energy to play that kind of game as much these days.

Anime Talk / Re: Which Anime series you are watching ?
« on: February 04, 2018, 02:34:46 PM »
I feel like it's less of a well thought out collection and more of a compilation of the ideas that Ito Junji played around with but couldn't make into something bigger. Kinda like practice for his other work.

I liked the short one about children turning into dolls but I couldn't see anything more coming of it than what was shown. I feel like the one about long dreams could've easily been made into something awesome if it had been from the dreamer's perspective

Anime Talk / Re: Which Anime series you are watching ?
« on: February 04, 2018, 09:51:31 AM »
Just started the Ito Junji Collection, creepy stuff but filled with awesome concepts

Manga Art Gallery / Re: Legomaestro's Art Box
« on: February 04, 2018, 07:02:18 AM »
Awww sugarbee you know yo boy be lovin' you day in day out and now that he's bothered to reset his password you might be seeing more of him  :heart:

Manga Art Gallery / Re: Legomaestro's Art Box
« on: February 03, 2018, 01:56:47 PM »
You've came a long way since I last nosied on here Lego, great stuff!

General Manga writer discussions / 009: A Prologue Regarding Prologues
« on: November 28, 2016, 04:17:56 PM »
Quote from: 009 Is Here
009: A Prologue Regarding Prologues

"To me, job titles don’t matter. Everyone is in sales. It’s the only way we stay in business." – Harvey Mackay

There are few aspiring writers who write only for themselves. It doesn't matter if you have the confidence to share your work or not, when we write a captivating story it's always in the hopes that it may reach the standard of those writers who inspire us. Whether you want to turn writing into a career or you just want someone to dive into the worlds you create and never come out, our stories are undoubtedly made to be shared...and in many cases, sold.

We "creative types" have a tendency to convince ourselves that what we do stands apart from other businesses due to the diversity of our final products. The artist, the musician, the writer, they all have the freedom to express themselves in an infinite number of ways that will always result in the creation of something new. We're surely world's apart from those who have to follow the rules in the non-creative business community, right?

Wrong. The truth is that if you've ever considered sharing your work and hoped for others to enjoy it, you're selling a product whether you charge for it or not. The pivotal point in any sale is the pitch. Without a pitch, there's no hook. If you don't have a hook, then how do you expect to catch any fish? You can't expect a product to be successful if you can't draw an audience to it and the initial pitch is key to that; In the case of writing, that pitch is most often our prologue.

The Great Divide

Unsurprisingly, there's a wide range of opinions within the writing community on how a prologue should be structured in order to provide the best experience possible to readers. We're all looking for that ultimate method of storytelling that can drag a newcomer into the worlds we build in a way that makes them never want to leave but everyone has a different idea on the means to achieve it.

Do our readers enter these worlds with all the answers laid out before them or let curiosity drive them forward through a fog of mystery? Are they plunged headfirst into action or tortured with tension? What do we offer our audience and what do we withhold from them? What do you want your prologue to achieve?

In future posts, I intend to look at several common methods in prologues that are used by both aspiring and professional writers. I'll give my own outspoken opinions regarding their pros and cons but as always, I invite open discussion on the matter. What prologue styles do you commonly use and which methods have you struggled to master? Do you even think a prologue is necessary or would you prefer to jump straight into the story itself?

The next post on this subject will be discussing just one prologue style that is most commonly found in fantasy and sci-fi fiction - The Timeline Synopsis. This is mainly due to how commonly it's used by aspiring writers but also because I have a ton to say about this one in particular!

Let me know how you like to start your stories and why! After all, there's no better way to learn than discussion!

MR Pub / Re: Chat Chat 2016
« on: November 15, 2016, 07:52:13 PM »
The people have to know!

Develop Your Story / Re: Forged In The Flames
« on: November 13, 2016, 10:20:04 AM »
I think the overload is mainly in the explanation of the conflict between the three brothers and how Dragon Lords were exterminated. It didn't specify what happened to the brothers but skipped to the mystery of what happened to the Dragons themselves.

I think for the prologue you'd be served better by leaving the history of the war between the Dragon Lords as vague, as if it's something that is taught to children in the current age but the details are rarely remembered. Think of what details would be significant to the characters of the present timeline. For me that would be:

- Three lords who could control dragons waging war with their dragon armies.
- The revolution that brought them down.
- The believed extermination of the dragon lords.

Prologues should always be kept precise, to the point and vague enough that you can leave some questions unanswered until the answers become relevant to your main story. There's no need for readers to know at the start that the three brothers originally saved people from dragons, or that they were brothers. Ever had that little "ohooo" moment when you read a reveal in a manga? That could easily be one of those moments.

I don't believe there's a need to describe the current age that comes after in the prologue either. I think the picture will be painted clearly through the story itself. Introducing the age of Barons through dialogue and actions rather than a small block of text will allow the reader to delve gradually into the setting until they're lost in it. Let explanations emerge through dialogue between characters in a more natural manner.

With every first draft of a prologue I try to think "Okay, how do I cut this in half?" because I believe segments of prologue can be provided throughout the entire story for as long as necessary. Haven't read the first chapter yet but I'll comment on it shortly :)

Develop Your Story / Re: Forged In The Flames
« on: November 09, 2016, 01:58:52 PM »
Some nice wording in there but a bit of an info overload. Got the general gist of things and it seemed pretty cool, I'd just be careful on how you position the prologue as it can be a bit overwhelming for someone prior to reading the story itself.

Also, just wanted to check: When it says man walked among beasts, does it mean they cooperated with each other peacefully and then began to slay each other? Wasn't sure of this.

Still, look forward to seeing how you present the first chapter. :)

MR Pub / Re: Chat Chat 2016
« on: November 09, 2016, 01:54:24 PM »
Can't say either choice seemed particularly encouraging. The idiot racist or the lying warmonger. Perhaps more US and UK citizens will be going to church to prepare for the rapture now. ;)

Manga Writer workshop / Re: Write A Story in 6 Words
« on: November 07, 2016, 05:53:32 AM »
An amputee hops into a bar...

MR Pub / Re: Comeback/holidays/departure notice.
« on: November 04, 2016, 02:32:52 PM »
Thanks dude, you too! Listening to the latest episode now.

MR Pub / Re: Comeback/holidays/departure notice.
« on: November 04, 2016, 02:13:26 PM »
Sooo I'm attempting a comeback!

Mix of stuff has kept me away from MR/regular writing over the last few months. Had what has been quite possibly the worst writer's block in my life. Started a new job after that and have finally got some stable income on the go but it involved some gruelling training for a time and now I can safely say I know a ton about UK mortgages!

BUT I am now hoping to get back into writing, albeit not as actively as I used to due to time constraints (and a new gaming PC that my first wage allowed me to buy). Should hopefully start writing/reviewing/ranting over the next few days. :)

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