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Manga Creations / Re: Kingfisher Crimson (Rewriting)
« on: May 04, 2015, 04:50:37 PM »
Hey Lego.

 I only read the first chapter and plan to read the rest in the next couple days, so this is my thoughts on the first chapter.

This is very interesting to me, especially since I love scifi and post apocalyptic stories and scenarios. I say post apocalyptic because that's more of the feel I got from the first chap and the small introduction. Stories of cataclysms, lost technology, scavenging unknown places and rebuilding the world usually fit the post apocalyptic mold. This is no exception, but u seem to already have skipped this cataclysm and rebuilding phase so far that it seems like it's not part of the current story anymore as they now already have regained or built technology and tanks to venture through the portals, which is not what it says in the small intro or backstory. It doesn't really feel scifi, apart from the portal entrance and the explanation of the different world that they've just entered, the tech they have doesn't really bring anything to the scifi element as it seems standard. Wether it's scifi or not doesn't matter to me because as I said before, this is pretty darn interesting, just think on it. There also is that little almost fantasy part with the spells, but nothing wrong.

As mentioned by others, the dialogue seems good at points and non realistic in others, it fits right for a novel but not so much for a manga in my opinion, if that's where u plan to take this. The disembarking line is a perfect example of this.

Last thing is all the words, really think about this as it can save u time and trouble. If a manga is what u plan to make this into, the light novel approach to me is not needed at all as some those words would almost be meaningless, especially lines like "Zulu imagines the kindly Braxton fellow swearing under his breath. Zulu has heard of him before and knows that he is more difficult than even the most ornery commanders he had to deal with during his job. The others certainly wouldn’t have left him behind. Not that Zulu was complaining. He agreed that he wanted no part of the military operations. He only blames his sister for stepping in and sending him after them anyways" , and "Zulu has seen it all before, knows all the instruments they’re calibrating. After all he can operate them alone".

 To me this sort of detail or NARRATION to specify is usually not in manga nor needed in manga. I myself also don't like it when mangas use narration, I only like pictures and for everything to be explained through dialogue, but that's just me.

 Action stories are my thing, like most people, and I liked the first action scene at the end, just watch out with putting action in every chapter. Unless it serves a purpose, like how the first action scene I feel will, it just becomes repetitive, predictable and pointless. I haven't finished reading, but I wanna say focus on explaining the story and getting it from one point to the next, make sure it makes sense and is not redundant like american tv lol.


 I look forward to reading more in my free time. Keep it up :thumbsup: Chillz

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Develop Your Story / Re: Mot137DK
« on: April 05, 2015, 04:44:30 PM »
Hey Monok. Thanks for the feedback, needed it. Please stop by again, I wanted to go a little further with how I could improve it.  :thumbsup:


As for Mot137DK. I was interested and it was easy to follow. I would also read more if you post.

The diary felt alright, a little off. I like how he makes his last wishes and confessions. It has the feel of it being his last entry, but toward the end it felt like a movie pitch or introduction. Hard for me to explain.


I really like the idea of writing it like a diary though, also liked Crackhead Johnys example as it shows how diaries can delve into the mind of someone you thought you knew. There are always shocking, sincere or even silly thoughts, feelings and memories in someones mind, that were only written on a piece of paper. If you can pull some of this off, it would be very interesting. You're also good at writing I can see, unlike me :push:  good luck ;)

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Develop Your Story / Trig-Parallax
« on: April 03, 2015, 08:53:10 PM »


 Sup raiders! ;D This is a story I've been working one for some time now. I wanted some feedback on it. Mainly basic ones like did I convey the tone, story,vision and angles well. Was it interesting, how was the dialogue, was it a bit much? Is also added some humor the last two days to give it a manga feel and I'm not good at comedy, but I tried, so tell me if u liked it. But any review would be great.

 I wrote it in a script/screenplay format as an easy way for me to convert to a storyboard. I explain most of what your seeing on some parts very well and less on others, but felt it was the best option to get down the most important details I needed to show you without a storyboard. I don't give much details on the settings and appearance of characters, just one, so please don't mind that. Also the chapter is pretty long, I figure it to be 40-50 pages.

Title: Trig-Parallax  don't laugh >:(

Genres: Scifi Seinen Action Adventure Drama Romance Cyberpunk (alittle) Comedy (maybe)

Well, hope you enjoy it.  :thumbsup:

Ch.1 Anomaly 
Spoiler
Scene: Cold dead space, the Junin solar system. First view is of distant space, pure darkness with stars glittering in
the distant background.

Second view is a shot of the entirety of a tan and dark green planet called Tarth (Just planet).

Third view is a real close up from just above the planet, looking down on it.

Nearby, a floating object slowly approaches the planet. The unknown object, so faint it seems like debris, is pulled
in as it enters the planets atmosphere. A distant orbiting satellite, about a quarter of the planet away, turns and
points towards the object as it makes its rounds around the planet.



Scene: Tarth. Overhead view is of an open-square (square with one side gone) white lab facility, at the of a forest.

Inside at a desk, sits a bald, white mustached meteorologist with transparent glasses. His name is Oliver ponsol, and he seems to be enjoying a fresh cup of coffee while flipping through his lab notes. A deafening siren rings, and a red alarm on the wall goes off just over Olivers head (!) just as he takes a sip of his hot coffee. Oliver painfully spills the burning liquid on his chest and legs from the scare of the siren. He lets out the most helpless cry in his life as he's jumping from his seat like a frantic maniac, tearing the clothes off himselfin one instant with his new unbeknownst strength. He stands there hunched over, panting and defeated as if he ran15 miles, still holding his ripped lab coat in one hand and pants in the other. Lastly, he lets out weak and faint "...oww! and those were my last clean pair", before remembering the blazing sirens and running over to his control terminal.

 Oliver: What is it i?

 Terminal A.I: Satellite detecting possible anomaly within planets thermosphere ...Confirmed. Scanners reading unknown alloy, now entering mesosphere.

 Oliver: Unknown? And the entry?

 A.I: Alloy sustaining any damage from aerodynamic heating, unable to detect its mineral signature.



Scene: Space.

 The object at this point is an almost blinding light as it free-falls through the atmosphere.



Scene: Back to lab.

 Oliver: Calculate the objects speed and estimate its weight.

 A.I: Calculating, 600 pounds.

 Oliver: If it's some some sort of technology, it'll be destroyed on impact. I, send a drone to stop it and bring it down, make sure to break the fall, at the cost of the drone if it must.

 A.I: Assigning drone and adaptable variables, complete. Scene: Just above the facility. A medium sized drone exits it dock and takes off from a section of the facility.

 Oliver: Where will it hit?

 A.I: 48*W 76*N Mason beach, 436 miles southeast at its current trajectory. Oliver: Ready the ship. Oliver quickly makes his way to an aircraft.



Scene: Outside, open sky.

The object now inside the planets atmosphere, soars across the sky almost diagonally, still a bright light. The drone, flies high over the clouds and stops, hovering in mid air. It detects the object on its scanners about four miles away, screaming towards it at about 400 miles per hour.

 Drone A.I: Calculating..., insufficient speed to approach and decelerate object from behind, calculating variables..., solution found.

The drone, then lines up in the objects exact path, and flies away from it in the opposite direction. The object, as a result of its speed, quickly closes the gap between itself and the drone. The object, then crashes against the back of the drone, with the speed of the object taking the drone forward with it, but losing speed from it.



Scene: Up close shot of drone.


 Drone: Commencing full deceleration.

The drone then tries to come to a full stop. The objects force, rips through the drone. The drone is destroyed into pieces, but the object is slowed down dramatically. The object, now slightly visible, (but purposely obscured) spins and flips uncontrollably as it loses more speed through the sky. It crash slides into a sandy beach. Scene: View of Oliver's speeding vehicle (ship). Inside, Oliver impatiently sits at the controls, racing to the landing in mystery.






Scene: View is of a blackened, red-stripped planet engulfed in sulfur and fallout. This unstable world sits on the edge of the galaxy, the rivers of lava flowing through the it are visible from space. Julius and Lalinore have been here for some time now. Roaming the outskirts of the galaxy.



Scene: View of an ancient city metropolis, crumbling in ruin and decay.

Julius enters the lower levels of a mega underground facility, and exits the lift (elevator). He walks in to find Lalinore on one knee, gazing at something odd (gigantic blast hole in the facility, going on for what seems like miles).

 Julius: So, they were here Huh?

 Lalinore: ...Yeah..., something happened here, long time now. The high radiation levels here came from this blast.

 Julius: Well, their not here now and there's barely any oxygen left so let's go, our trip here has run its course.


Lalinore's lifeless reply warranted no opposition, he just stands and turns to leave. They enter the lift and make their way back up. Once outside, they proceed to walk back to their ship.


 Lalinore: So, what do you think went on here?

 Julius: Looks like whatever explosion or weapon went off, caused a chain reaction of volcanic eruptions. I scanned most the planet, no sign what did this. But what reason did they have for coming here?

 Lalinore: You know we can't afford to look for them anymore.


Julius looking forward just nods.

 Julius: So what should we be looking for.

 Lalinore: Pods! We don't have much time There should be on one of these worlds. You figured Luna and Jade were looking for us?

 Julius: Possibly, maybe something else.


Lalinore sarcastically turns to Julius.

 Lalinore: Like a significant reason to continue with this existence! yeah, good luck ...maybe death or peace, if it does indeed exist beyond a word.

 Julius: Maybe they found something.

 Lalinore: You do understand the chances of them finding whatever the praetorians are looking for is slim. The case of them doing anything useful with it is as close to impossible as it gets. And yet you still talk like that. Besides that there's the numbers and arsenal. What willing power, would have the capability, and actual numbers to even attempt anything, the hu-.


He's cutoff.

 Julius: I see your point Lan, but it isn't completely impossible. Plus, never count out that small probability. Great things can occur there, like the universe.

 Lalinore: Or maybe even you and I can inevitably end up changing the course of things, right. Julius: There's a chance.

 Lalinore: Oh please!

 Julius: Your useless!



Scene: Inside the ship.


Julius and Lan sit at the controls, punching in commands to take off. Lalinore stares out the bridge at the city in ruin.

 Lalinore: I Wonder whether the entire universe is dead already, It must've died when intelligent life began.

 Julius: Those are some dark thoughts.

 Lalinore: Yup!

 Julius: Well, embrace your emotions while you still can, they'll be gone soon, and forever. Set course for the Segma 2 system.

The ship exits the atmosphere as explosions erupt in the great ruins below.




Scene: Tarth, three hours pass.

Oliver's ship arrives at the impact zone, Mason beach, and lands. Oliver exits almost naked, wearing only the undershorts on his legs and boots on his feet. He can see the deep stretched out crater in the dry sand, he runs towards it.

 Oliver: I hope it didn't suffer any damage.


As Oliver approaches, he begins to dig into the sand to reveal to sunken object. He stands back up in disbelief at what he's partially unearthed.

 Oliver: Could it be!?? It must be, no human can withstand that impact, let alone the conditions in space and atmospheric entry.


Lying partially dug up in the sand is what looks like shiny, titanium-like humanoid male. Oliver kneels down to closely examine the metallic anatomy and structure.

 Oliver: No sign of heat. Oliver slowly places his hand on the metal body. Oliver: It's cool! Sooo...it can resist high amounts of heat, this is why it didn't melt on entry. What type of alloy...?


Unknown to Oliver in his discovery, was the arrival of two men obviously miners. With their dirty clothes, hanging gas masks and flashlight equipped hard hats, they exit a small land cruiser they just arrived in, scouting the area as if looking for something.

 Miner1: Jak look! there's a ship over by the beach, see it. Told'ya, somethin must've happened here, knew I heard it.

 Jak: Ted, by contract, were not supposed to go past the site or city limits, they say it's dangerous.

 Ted: Don't you ever get bored of just goin to the bar after work all the time. Besides it'll only be a few minutes, don't wuss out, you came on your own.

 Jak: What!!

 Ted: Shut up and move.


Then, taking insanely fast tippy toe steps, they quickly sneak all the way over to Olivers ship. Together, they poke their heads out from the corner of the ship, looking for anything. They stand now about 100 feet behind Oliver and the crash.

 Ted: Jak, see the drag marks on the sand? It ends over there. Come on, let's see.


As they begin to walk, Jak instantly grabs Ted.

 Jak: Wait, there's someone there in that hole, with a droid. You think it's that doctor Winthrop, the one who tends to the injured miners.

 Ted: Can't tell, what if.

 Jak: He knows me and could report us, I'm not losing my job and mining permit for this.

 Ted: Ssh, wait look, it's a bald guy.... that's not Winthrop! What the hell!!! What's goin on here?


Looking nervously scared and sweaty, Ted points over to Oliver with his now dripping nose.

 Ted: Is this guy some perv, look at'em.

 Jak: This is weird, I'm scared Ted.


They can see Oliver as he's digging up more dirt, but can't see what fell. Jak with a cowering look on his face yanks down teds collar.

 Jak: Ted! Maybe he's a murderer, burying somebody! Jaks eyes go out at his own terrifying words as Teds confidence and excitement grows.

 Ted: Ok, if that's the case then let's check, we can't just stand here and watch some guy possibly get away with murder.

 Jak: What! Let's get the hell outta here, he could be some maniac killer!


Oliver, finally hearing the commotion and realizing someone's there watching, suddenly turns to their direction in defense, shouting like a mad man in hostility.

 Oliver: WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE SNEAKING ON ME LIKE THAT, YOU WANNA SEE WHAT I GOT. COME ANY CLOSER AND YOU DIE!!


Ted frightfully jumps into Jaks arms like baby as Jak stands there trembling.

 Ted: OH YEAH, JUST WHAT THE HELL YOU DOIN OUT HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE, DIGGING GRAVES YOU....FREAK!

 Oliver: Graves, Freak? FREAK!!! YOU WANNA SEE FREAK, I'LL REMOVE YOUR EYEBALLS AND USE'EM FOR MY SOUP. S-3, GET'EM!


Oliver, with a demented and demonic like stare, points towards the miners as the droid charges full speed toward them. Ted and Jak break like hell back to their cruiser in terror.

Ted: RUN JAK! He's a mad scientist, a sicko!

 Jak: I don't wanna die! Ahhh!! Oliver stands in shock at the silly event taking place in front of him.

 Oliver: Idiots! I'm on a planet of absolute idiots. S-3, return! Let them be.


Olivers drone returns and he continues his survey. You can see now that he has dug the alien out the sand and can see it laying out in the crater. He tries to flip body over, but can't.

Oliver: Rrrgghh, Wo! this alloy must be extremely dense to have such a high mass, this might be impenetrable. Hmmm, Im betting it has a brain, maybe some organs, and the alloy armor... would protect it from extreme pressure, heat and cold. How high would those levels be? And is it dead.


Oliver places his hand on his chin looking puzzled.

 Oliver: Think, think... It quite possibly could be suffering from head trauma. Yes, that might be it. So let's go see if Mr Winthrop can help, see just how good of a neurologist he is. Take this back to the ship S-3, quickly.


Oliver orders the droid, which takes the alien to the ship, the ship then takes off. Oliver heads to Nelson Winthrop's lab.



Scene: Inside Nelsons lab, a more cluttered and sinister looking one, with prosthetics and machinery showering the background.

Inside, a loud repeating bang comes from the entrance hatch as Nelson walks to open it.

 Nelson: Hold your damn horses you. You better have a good reason for botherin me this...


As Nelson opens the door, all he can do is stand in shocking disbelief at the sight of the droid holding the humanoid and an unclothed Oliver.

 Nelson: What the hell is that! and where in the universe are your f*cking pants!!!


We skip to humanoid being placed by the droid on its chest on top an operating table. Nelson, wearing surgical scopes on his face, carefully searches the back of the synthetics head.

 Nelson: You gonna put some pants on or not, your freaking me out.

 Oliver: Just get on with it.

 Nelson: If this thing does have a brain, there's a good chance it'll have a small component back here to open the cranium. Mmm... There we go.


Nelson presses the small mechanism. The metallic head opens to a view of half a brain, half machine with wiring connected.

 Nelson: This alone should relieve some of the pressure. So let's see. Hmm... half a brain only? Which seems to be connected to some sort of a mainframe. Wow, this is... terrifying. I could never in my life or ten, replicate something like this.

 Oliver: Can you help him or not!?

 Nelson: Well, there's definitely brain swelling, I can drain fluids, apply medication and a coolant to lower the brains temperature. If that doesn't work, I'll perform surgery, removing whatever's causing the swelling. But this is still past my expertise, I don't know what's supporting the brain, or how. This thing can and likely does have severe brain injuries already. No matter where it's made or from.

 Oliver: Yes, I understand, just try your best.

 Nelson: So you said it fell from space, survived entry and impact.

 Oliver: Yes.

 Nelson: Well, from that I can conclude this...thing, is able to take oxygen, even from space, and feed it to the brain. The nervous system should be connected to the brain through these wires, giving it control, maybe senses and feelings also. This alloy must be incredibly durable, but I've never seen anything like this in my life.

 Oliver: I myself have some thoughts on where this alloy may have originated, but never mind that, we're losing time.

 Nelson: Before anything...


Nelson, angry-like, turns his head slowly to Oliver.

 Nelson: I wanna know why you wish to help this thing so bad, is this about your past?

 Oliver: Nelson, we must at least for the sake of science, help it and learn from it. Good things can still come of this, this doesn't concern my past.

 Nelson: Even IF that were the true. What happens when it wakes up, and we're the only thing in its way? You know what theses things are capable of. Do you expect it to do what we ask because we may have saved it? What if word reaches the capitol that we knew and didn't report it? We could be exiled.

 Oliver: Calm down Nelson. I have no interest in putting our lives in danger. We're gonna safely take a chance to learn from this with the time we're gonna have. U can't deny it, this is the chance of a millennia, to study the first one of its kind ever caught.

 Nelson: You don't know that, and what do you mean by safely with the time we're gonna have.

 Oliver: Well after you're done, we're going to bolt it to the ground and report the finding to the capitol. We'll tell them we repaired him for their benefit. They'll have to believe us. If it wakes up willing to cooperate, we might just be able to learn how they work. If not, we can trap it in a electromagnetic cell. Easy enough. Deal?

 Nelson: ...U should know there's a military base orbiting a planet about 1000 A.Us from here. Wouldn't take them longer than 2 months to get here. I'd say that's your time limit. But, sure whatever, just please put on some damn clothes.

 Oliver: Fair enough.

Both stand over the table, backs turned, covering any view of the humanoid being operated on. Oliver, standing by Nelson, watches him at work.

 Nelson: So any idea where it came from? Oliver: Not a clue.




Leave your thoughts  :D

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Welcome Center / Re: Hallo
« on: April 02, 2015, 04:47:57 AM »
Hallo and welcome ;D

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Welcome Center / Re: Hi from NITO manga creator :)
« on: April 02, 2015, 04:15:15 AM »

Hi Manga man,

Thanks :)
I see that you are a writer, do you have your work online for me to read?
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Well your timing couldn't have been better. I do have an incomplete story and several concepts that I've never posted. But Ill be posting my the first of five chapters real soon since I'm happy with it and wanted some reviews on it. Check it out when it up, it's a scifi seinen story.

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Manga Writer workshop / Re: Review Swaps
« on: April 02, 2015, 04:06:24 AM »
Editing my chapter, hope to put it up soon.

Trying to add a dash of humor, feels impossible. I'll repost when I'm satisfied with it.


Well, I've put it up guys.

http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,13190.msg224262.html#new

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Discussions / Re: Hikaru Rising Discussion Board
« on: April 02, 2015, 03:57:52 AM »
Whatsup Usopp. Well, I give you my most honest opinion. I read four chapters and thought it was fairly good. There were some things I really like and some things unlikable. Ill try to go from the simple to bigger points in my opinion.

First off, I really like the backstory, the beginning though. The part with hikaru being banished for killing demons was a little silly and confusing to me. I'm sure there are way better reasons for him to be banished and not know who he is.

The plot concept was really good too, and sounds very interesting with the connecting dual plot element. Great idea of demons infiltrating the angel realm. Though you have to sell it well, as my common sense tells me it'll be bloody hard for two demons to blend into heaven. But, the similarities to the Hercules story, is very scary to me, since it is well known and just repeats the same cycle, one victory after another for the mainly featured protagonist. And this brings me to my next point.

More characters. I know you have a list of protagonist and antagonist, but you should feature them as much as the hikaru. Of course I don't know how you plan to use them, but just in case. I'll put it the best way I can.

Antagonist never really add anything interesting or captivating to a story if their not explored, or are just a device to be used in a battle or something like that. We'll just know that when they fight hikaru, they lose. I think some antagonist, mainly those demons infiltrating the realm, should have a bigger more deeper and explained role in the story. This is something that I as a seinen reader would love.

The same goes for the other protagonist. Feature them, and give them a bigger impact on the story. I see great potential in heavily featurings other Angels and Demons, in a bigger cast, it'll fit great with the  dual plot idea. I think maybe hikaru and other Angels as smaller plots, could go thru the old trial and tribulation journey, but with your own dark spin.

Even heian, you have used him this much, so I think it'll be wasted if you just left him out now for most the story. Give him more meaning than just hikarus goal, because that trope is used a lot, especially the ending when heian is a totally different person, mostly always bad.

Now hikaru, even though I like the chapters and concepts, I must say, hikaru to me is a very unlikable character. He just seems to a big loaf, foolish, and lazy. I just haven't been able to have any sympathy or interest in him, but that could all change, as I'm sure he'll change too as the story goes, but maybe you can rework his scenes or dialogue a little.

And to dialogue. Your writing skills show in your work a lot. Though it feels very much like a novel in the way you presented it, not bad at all since it was written good. But too much detail to feelings and environments and not enough to the actual visualization of the story and scenes. The dialogue was good for manga, just not totally genuine. The story right now feels more shounen and the dialogue adds to that.
 
I'll keep up with your chapters as you post them. I think you have great ground to work on. Just work on it :thumbsup:

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Welcome Center / Re: Hi from NITO manga creator :)
« on: April 01, 2015, 01:08:11 PM »
Watsup and welcome.

I followed your fb. Might give it a read sometime also, Art looks amazing. Good luck.


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General Discussion / Re: Calling all Raiders... a humble request.
« on: April 01, 2015, 12:39:19 PM »
Done and done. Good luck man, may your project soar.

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Music / Re: What are you listening to
« on: March 28, 2015, 07:06:29 PM »
Alice in chains - nutshell

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Manga Writer workshop / Re: How do you like your humor?
« on: March 28, 2015, 06:53:51 PM »
To me in manga, it wouldn't matter as long as it's funny and not hateful or over the top.

In real life I love jokes that attack certain subjects that people neglect to address, or act as if it doesn't exist, like problems with society and peoples morale nowadays.

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Manga Writer workshop / Re: Write A Story in 6 Words
« on: March 28, 2015, 06:46:03 PM »
Humanity itself is the greatest mistake.
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You are right you are wrong

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Manga Writer workshop / Re: Write A Story in 6 Words
« on: March 28, 2015, 06:43:12 PM »
I will die then will live

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General Discussion / Re: A Question for Artists
« on: March 28, 2015, 06:34:17 PM »
I kinda like his feedback, it gives writers a little more hope and chances to find a partner. But Im not really sure you can take it serious. First he's a "writer", then he says this is coming from "someone who should reject you either ways". He sorta kinda contradicts himself.

Totally agree with darlingGrim though.

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General Discussion / Re: Over-Thinking VS Too Simplistic
« on: March 28, 2015, 06:25:44 PM »
Well, I'm just adding to what no1sey said as he hit right on the head.

It would also depend on the audience you're making the story for. As older audience want things to make some sense and not far-fetched. If an object (x) is important, it shouldn't lack in need or reason to exist.

And also remember there are ways to be simplistic in other aspects of the story beside knowing how things work. As you mentioned, not knowing why (y) event happened. Life is totally unpredictable, you can step outside and anything can happen, yet now in stories, that doesn't seem to be the case. You seem to always know how and when something's gonna happen, and always whose it gonna ehappen to, this has to stop. Also the simple characters that make the same obvious dumb decisions that hinder them, or them supposedly getting stronger and smarter through a period of time and nothing noticeable changes (we're looking at you naruto). And another long favored story simplicity, the old small world scenario. I'm sure we all know this one. These should all be avoided.

Events should either have perfect reason to happen, or must be completely spontaneous and unpredictable, and equally spontaneous should be the outcome, by that I mean the reader not knowing the end result in an event before it has presented itself.

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