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Title: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 22, 2013, 02:43:57 AM
I've been here for a long time and most of the old links are broken. I think some people would still like to see how I've progressed so I'll repost the images. If a link breaks again (facebook links tend to expire) just tell me.

2010
The oldest image I can find on my hard drives.
Darlynne
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/316551_208209859240088_5918947_n.jpg?oh=46edfd70109edea9e669083129473743&oe=5B23DA55)
2011
Esashi
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/226296_164985180229223_8185111_n.jpg?oh=ee0a528c331bd0310006b19d4c47b64a&oe=5AE4B574)
Josue
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/227916_164991966895211_2019138_n.jpg?oh=921b5adae68feb4f48496ddf85806a99&oe=5AE6A37C)
Kesashi
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/303908_231814393546301_581585571_n.jpg?oh=f3980890625497704154d68bb28929fe&oe=5B124894)
Esashi (a sprite made for animation)
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/253647_169521243108950_2062503_n.jpg?oh=66126291291050e7601e0be68ace4a74&oe=5B24082E)
Ikaki (sketch)
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/222710_164985476895860_8096602_n.jpg?oh=4f09f720d219112a168a92f1286c31b6&oe=5ADD8C39)
Ikaki (Vector)
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/229310_167276200000121_1236211_n.jpg?oh=308c150a9e5b252e76942d50a6ef5cba&oe=5ADF51D4)
RPG Warrior
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/301410_208209899240084_2237181_n.jpg?oh=1c4b542b2b57cde54d0476e42a6cf7ac&oe=5B239084)
Love
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/330424_208243045903436_5856045_o.jpg?oh=981ffc1286d8ec84d27a5f2f8e92a9b7&oe=5B261667)
RPG Class
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/316982_208209799240094_2751490_n.jpg?oh=d4ff6612c4c9208e941fa5c9059f95a9&oe=5B19591C)
Edgy Sketch
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/317398_217611434966597_1830129176_n.jpg?oh=38f15385a7f1aeda8745ba51efdd52f7&oe=5ADA32BC)
Edgy Vector
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/293541_217611488299925_249114423_n.jpg?oh=d844a5e3a7078f78555f902497b5efae&oe=5B1C612A)
Robot Parts
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/300906_232292553498485_602560030_n.jpg?oh=a96598307e31f11ec509516af12a7e48&oe=5B1DD1E5)
2012
Much of my vector art was traced on top of a proffesional artist's piece at this time.
Traced
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/429797_294789880582085_1388185054_n.jpg?oh=29f623205962eefe6f74e5729d639b14&oe=5ADF9AA4)
Traced
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/s960x960/336886_273962445998162_177796327_o.jpg?oh=5c8cc7e8feaa2aaa50925a47f69f1d4b&oe=5B1726FD)
Traced
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/s960x960/336780_274092712651802_1540408417_o.jpg?oh=43f548e6dad76a4ad1e492a1f89a3cbc&oe=5ADB4E82)
Traced
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/s960x960/323301_273528986041508_1147125861_o.jpg?oh=df5e553c52703d7de547b9ffe254ff15&oe=5B10A970)
Traced
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/407242_271643576230049_1401263129_n.jpg?oh=327215647848b5c95cc3548480f86cba&oe=5B181041)
Traced
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/388239_270387103022363_112566483_n.jpg?oh=effc652af60358b13ecf9d689be668f1&oe=5B23C080)
Taikichi
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/422321_394594717268267_2108955220_n.jpg?oh=7df3026b7a693261c640de989dbb8440&oe=5B21FD3C)
Comic Book Sketch (When you see it)
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/580879_395515510509521_411730112_n.jpg?oh=161f8f65b9959ab3ffca5585126f4357&oe=5AE57B6A)
Comic Book Sketch 2
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/185814_395515097176229_936824260_n.jpg?oh=ff20232cd20b318bb4a62f4368469b30&oe=5ADE7BFF)
Comic Book Vector
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/256487_395712853823120_243315076_o.jpg?oh=5d988c9d8a3c02fbacac555c9f492ff3&oe=5B1275E1)
Fiesta Online Fan Art
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/205380_374140215980384_1870502783_n.jpg?oh=58ec1d600016382f65508afd1c19dffb&oe=5AE363C1)
Moline Sketch
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/524554_394594620601610_1073706048_n.jpg?oh=f2ac232a61a734089c95fc642edddff3&oe=5AD95082)
Moline Vector
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/524459_394594527268286_1863249854_n.jpg?oh=f8f161da71ea68d96df8a868c511f6d5&oe=5ADB5361)
Shundai
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/422265_396260180435054_2030292558_n.jpg?oh=5879836997eac3706da0e69dec1f596b&oe=5B13F708)
It's for the church
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/555759_396494250411647_338670919_n.jpg?oh=70ef4c650421922d15b0edf1966e8f8b&oe=5B170B67)
Demica
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36622_427488097312262_1140946522_n.jpg?oh=825ef06dd798b650d57a797f152cf609&oe=5B25C5AC)
2013 (When I Joined MR)
A Map
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/1078567_550988074962263_1500908262_o.jpg?oh=39d2ae1c6c98b3c06564bf5cc2152988&oe=5B15AD01)
Nameless
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1186757_556256457768758_60097728_n.jpg?oh=f64316cc74de218d4d79895a4aa482ae&oe=5AE674F8)
My first colored pencil portrait
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1075829_545365355524535_597971573_n.jpg?oh=2aa01985126b2a116efa41b5849bddf0&oe=5B1DD940)
King
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/555363_564297793631291_675828776_n.jpg?oh=7d445290c7a232461316089621183273&oe=5AE394EE)
Ella Mental
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/1267672_575116259216111_1052002614_o.jpg?oh=ae7e2fe9490515dba766745df5d13b06&oe=5B1E9294)
The Lords
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1157744_556553967739007_1964001891_n.jpg?oh=d0bc7d8d7c90b1a9a2866f710fb06462&oe=5B204DCA)
Improvement Checkpoint
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1491605_619260251468378_339883137_n.jpg?oh=6708d7ed9946a65a36d666d91bf214cd&oe=5AE27FF3)
Tera
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/734518_615092215218515_1503761105_n.jpg?oh=23eee4a5c5eab2b781fcd84a4aed8ed4&oe=5AD9EBE0)
Julian
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1458485_592421147485622_1200956766_n.jpg?oh=d6c08e7752f1340576e7131f2ee33143&oe=5B1C0444)
The Teacher
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1383341_577753112285759_929900938_n.jpg?oh=8b835d50c34a654ed7a2b181e97842a1&oe=5B17B1C9)
Face in profile
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1075886_542683085792762_1462205155_n.jpg?oh=695a1962be345bb515486309465a6098&oe=5B19307D)
First Drawing at MR
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1005211_542683082459429_420418843_n.jpg?oh=73ceb999a4448bf06bb94bb2d7ae4f1a&oe=5AE68688)
Comic Book in Colored Pencil
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/945783_549942111733526_1463813641_n.jpg?oh=8883763c26bb4b22471c42c232251b8e&oe=5ADA7261)
Comic Book in Colored Pencil 2
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/998066_549942035066867_1900935789_n.jpg?oh=1684d41df0149d45d58069e35ee72ce1&oe=5B1B94F7)
Comic Book in Colored Pencil 3
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/988283_549942041733533_2135912614_n.jpg?oh=8924e18965f7caee0f44f2f9279fadc7&oe=5B1F90E6)
Fight Scene
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/305798_503667446360993_1283143595_n.jpg?oh=f6919e341c774bc20114ed6f13b4319d&oe=5AE41C19)
Esashi as a girl
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1016326_545247458869658_1702166713_n.jpg?oh=c20014af344d7564468a8556543b4a38&oe=5AE7D9B5)
Spoiler
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/966357_511808565546881_1279194556_o.jpg?oh=707a307498bd2791372c27ee0fefa47e&oe=5B218E85)
2014
Not actually sisters
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10690301_755244011203334_2071217199674274742_n.jpg?oh=2ed3dbf98afbaf15a70efdf0029c3317&oe=5AE38DB1)
Colored Pencil Comic Book
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Comicstrip1.jpg)
Colored Pencil Comic Book 2
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Comicstrip2.jpg)
Colored Pencil Comic Book 3
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Comicstrip3.jpg)
Colored Pencil Comic Book 4
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Comicstrip4.jpg)
Daniela
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Daniela_0001.jpg)
Figure Drawing
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10494838_715151678545901_3724695041210856318_n.jpg?oh=a45176fa824c5d7ca4ccae0f0ff000be&oe=5ADF6752)
Fight Scene
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10405649_705700836157652_8233706881662591119_n.jpg?oh=b5161cc1666d9be9aafba07e6030880a&oe=5B1FA1F5)
Esashi embracing her heritage
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10653717_741680909226311_1718644034915497850_n.jpg?oh=85bc76f4bdd72fb63e91b2a2e73ef07e&oe=5AE106C7)
New costume for Esashi
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10570329_724121410982261_7280346328428507214_n.jpg?oh=1047d3662350285c41adeb46d1d8b295&oe=5AD8CEED)
Colored Pencil Portrait of Esashi
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/10575349_727089754018760_9159669966310463020_o.jpg?oh=451a13132dbdfa69fbe18d8fd7f4742e&oe=5B13E511)
Chibi Esashi
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10440264_701709109890158_6547821521404346029_n.jpg?oh=a46b8ff237875b0c118193e40b9438f9&oe=5AE6A2E5)
Gemstones
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/10348929_795848860476182_1913709017345138967_o.jpg?oh=8dc57c7c619a601b8cafc4bdf0ccdf28&oe=5B266DDD)
Esashi
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10897113_804324442961957_8877863299791379321_n.jpg?oh=6f06816adfad09e85baea4a089b322d8&oe=5B18C2CB)
Jesus
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/10604701_774498762611192_4423574456293978952_o.jpg?oh=4a49ddc4f7e5865bba2344380f300b98&oe=5AE50AFB)
2015
Reina
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Lunatic%20Image.png)
Colored Pencil Art
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/IMG_0005.jpg)
The Virgin Mary
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/IMG_20151213_023229.jpg)
Edgy Heart
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10343011_811204295607305_8039730231444888506_n.jpg?oh=c9189a8dae9d56baf6f42c69f70116a2&oe=5ADF8B0B)
Spoiler
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10933846_816673645060370_2045211216603308537_n.jpg?oh=b7692ce797e14a89593d5c062afb96a6&oe=5B1EDEA4)
Spoiler
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10384353_817302638330804_4155007273641705460_n.jpg?oh=7ea8eb8f757113753da43726838a16f1&oe=5B171E8F)
A Self Portrait
Both Characters are a portrait of me.
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10407829_841475595913508_5698632613556853099_n.jpg?oh=06f07d8608d4447e5ab7050908e3d748&oe=5ADD3325)
Spoiler
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11010289_871833419544392_4928200916474215920_n.jpg?oh=6779bcfd0ef0b9e42dd1ece2eefc4acf&oe=5B19CFAB)
2016
Gemstones
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/IMG_20160104_201959.jpg)
Esashi Again
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/IMG_0028.jpg)
Tara
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Tarabera.jpg)
Tara
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/TaraDesuChan.jpg)
Colored Pencil Portrait (Taikichi)
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/IMG%202.jpg)
Colored Pencil Portrait (Tara)
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/IMG%203.jpg)
Caroline
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/IMG_0030_2.jpg)
Comic Book
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/StoryBoard.jpg)
2017
New Media
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21055855_1501790093215385_7445182419932238125_o.jpg?oh=8855e2703e755567b90dabcda0e3c5b3&oe=5B1E715D)
New Art Style
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22788930_1552994128094981_7532586035086423896_n.jpg?oh=ac4c41c6030b86afca33aaa485ca05dd&oe=5ADD1006)
Portrait of a friend drawn from life
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18921891_1423355621058833_1325774360061656094_n.jpg?oh=fcb5656cf0ccb5a831179335b79f47b7&oe=5B10B67B)
Jeremy
(https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19221518_1433291123398616_1927450605558160071_o.jpg?oh=0c48c89b65b8b67e17ca4f9af72a6572&oe=5B16E7CC)
Spoiler
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16142963_1288800727847657_4616804474486115203_n.jpg?oh=6f7707f47e76ec5dcde75cf2566db74f&oe=5B15B53D)
The Vision
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18880068_1420777871316608_6249356652709127365_o.jpg?oh=bf72581cbf17d61bb1f21276dd777a0e&oe=5B110307)
The Game
(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18880201_1419668408094221_7063202281529502410_o.jpg?oh=e1fe15ea162f0ad6c5fea110133b9b92&oe=5B1F087C)
2018
Spoiler
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/298646084853694464/409304205040549900/Oblivia.png?width=800&height=686)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Maihime on July 22, 2013, 02:45:08 PM
Hmm i'm no proffesh, but one thing I can say throughout your veeeerry many pics is.. Anatomy!
Keep working on it! You're doing good ;) ::)  :frown:
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 22, 2013, 02:59:34 PM
I did notice that so i've recently started mapping out my character and their anatomy before i draw. The stick figure and circles stuff. I'd normally draw head down or foot up which i guess explains the extreme inconsistency of my work in comic sketches
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Echo_River on July 22, 2013, 03:00:59 PM
Yeah, what Mai said. Anatomy overall. You've got the idea. It's was great in the light and shadow digital pic (my favourite out of all).

Have you learned off any books?
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 22, 2013, 03:19:10 PM
Yeah, what Mai said. Anatomy overall. You've got the idea. It's was great in the light and shadow digital pic (my favourite out of all).

Have you learned off any books?

Thank you, i haven't ready any books for drawing, but i have watched a few videos
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Maihime on July 22, 2013, 03:21:26 PM
Ah i see
Quote from: lordkesashi link=topic=8240.msg148643#msg148643 date=137451 ::)9574
I did notice that so i've recently started mapping out my character and their anatomy before i draw. The stick figure and circles stuff. I'd normally draw head down or foot up which i guess explains the extreme inconsistency of my work in comic sketches
Mmm I began doing the same,although i hate it,it does help..well just keep practising
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 22, 2013, 06:25:22 PM
Ah i see
Quote from: lordkesashi link=topic=8240.msg148643#msg148643 date=137451 ::)9574
I did notice that so i've recently started mapping out my character and their anatomy before i draw. The stick figure and circles stuff. I'd normally draw head down or foot up which i guess explains the extreme inconsistency of my work in comic sketches
Mmm I began doing the same,although i hate it,it does help..well just keep practising

Yeah it does help but it normally seems so useless and makes drawing such a hassle I would end up with a sketchbook full of pictures I'll never finish. Its really great for when I'm trying to draw the same character constantly with correct proportions to show off multiple costume designs. But I've never really used it to its full potential I've mostly used it to help understand how to draw a certain pose i want to draw.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: lasthope2300 on July 22, 2013, 09:52:47 PM
Aughhhhh!!!!! That profile pic is the same one I use for a music site! Wow...never thought I'd see someone else with it. I agree with Maihime. Anatomy all the way man. :biggrin: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Zealapeal on July 22, 2013, 10:21:48 PM
Yeah it does help but it normally seems so useless and makes drawing such a hassle I would end up with a sketchbook full of pictures I'll never finish. Its really great for when I'm trying to draw the same character constantly with correct proportions to show off multiple costume designs. But I've never really used it to its full potential I've mostly used it to help understand how to draw a certain pose i want to draw.

Huhu~, I see this once again.

Guidelines are necessary. You need them. They are very far from useless, and I want to start to drill that into your head a little bit.

I was exactly where you were - I thought they were useless as well. I never saw the point of them. But now, I can't stop using them; I need them! Without them, my figures would look close, but not perfect. The human brain is very powerful in picking up these subtleties of what is good and what is not; what looks right and what looks wrong.

Is it a hassle at first? Sure. But you'll soon learn that it becomes far from a hassle, and rather a time saver, when you start putting your characters in very difficult poses. Those little preliminary sketches made of guidelines, sticks, and basic shapes will save you a load of frustration.

Perhaps you do not understand their use now. But you will, given time. Especially once you start delving into anatomy, proportions, figure drawing, etc.

Good luck, young warrior. Keep drawing.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 23, 2013, 03:02:48 PM
Yeah it does help but it normally seems so useless and makes drawing such a hassle I would end up with a sketchbook full of pictures I'll never finish. Its really great for when I'm trying to draw the same character constantly with correct proportions to show off multiple costume designs. But I've never really used it to its full potential I've mostly used it to help understand how to draw a certain pose i want to draw.

Huhu~, I see this once again.

Guidelines are necessary. You need them. They are very far from useless, and I want to start to drill that into your head a little bit.

I was exactly where you were - I thought they were useless as well. I never saw the point of them. But now, I can't stop using them; I need them! Without them, my figures would look close, but not perfect. The human brain is very powerful in picking up these subtleties of what is good and what is not; what looks right and what looks wrong.

Is it a hassle at first? Sure. But you'll soon learn that it becomes far from a hassle, and rather a time saver, when you start putting your characters in very difficult poses. Those little preliminary sketches made of guidelines, sticks, and basic shapes will save you a load of frustration.

Perhaps you do not understand their use now. But you will, given time. Especially once you start delving into anatomy, proportions, figure drawing, etc.

Good luck, young warrior. Keep drawing.

I'll take your word for it. I hope it'll also help to start drawing a wire frame for my backgrounds.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 25, 2013, 06:43:49 AM
My new anatomy frame

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q71/s720x720/999076_544877458906658_1986997789_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 25, 2013, 07:50:46 AM
Complete Version:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/q71/s720x720/1000295_544894008905003_440315722_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: David2302 on July 25, 2013, 08:15:59 AM
Your drawings are very good! :thumbsup:  if you will look at the first drawings you posted,
the top of the head is too big...

this last drawing is the best! it will be better if you add shadows, it will be perfect  :D
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Jamie on July 25, 2013, 03:39:03 PM
I haven't critiqued anyone in a while, so here's a critique;

The first thing i immediately noticed is this. You have a natural "lean" towards the left side. What this essentially means is, that you're drawings are crooked/leaning. A good way to fix this however, is that whenever you start your figure drawing, you should establish a line of gravity using a ruler.

Second is, anatomy. Now, i realise that you're drawing in a stylised mannor, so what i say may not apply 100%.
When drawing a figure, it is best to construct a basic skeleton to work from. This will allos you to create a more, anatomically correct figure without it looking flat, and will help you understand how to fully draw poses out. The box technique is good, however i opt for a different way.
Also - The arm is drawn wrong. The left hand would not be able to hold the axe properly at that angle.
(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o521/jamieboy3/crit1.jpg?t=1374777703)


https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q72/s720x720/1075886_542683085792762_1462205155_n.jpg
This was done very quickly, so the drawing quality isn't the best. The main point i'm trying to show is construction, not the finished product. :)

This face has allot of errors. I feel it may be beneficial for me to critique this too.
The first and most evident problem with the face here, is that i don't think you've used any construction lines to create it, and instead you suffered from symbol drawing. When creating any face, we begin with the oval, and then, with this particular view, we place a smaller oval/circle in the middle.
We then, cut our initial oval in half, creating our x and y axis.
The X axis that we have drawn becomes our brow line.
Next, we draw the base of our face. I usually start this where teh X axis hits the big circle/oval. (Marked in pink)
After this, we then begin to illustrate where our jaw is, i usually do this using the Y axis, where the line hits the lowest oval. (marked in gren.)
Spoiler
(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o521/jamieboy3/part1.jpg?t=1374692259)(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o521/jamieboy3/part2.jpg?t=1374692281)

Great, now we have the base of our head! Now we can add details.
I'll start with the nose and ear. The ear is pretty self explanatory, and is placed in our mini circle! :P
The nose is easy in this view. To start off with placement, we draw a triangle. This allows us to see the rough shape and size of the nose, and can be drawn lightly, multiple times inorder to see what size looks best. (I usually guestimate. :P)
Eye is explained in picture. The eye is usually drawn smaller in realism.
Now for lips. The lips must be drawn where the jaw-line meets the skull, and in realism, it's height is half the distance between the eyes and nose.
Spoiler
(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o521/jamieboy3/part3.jpg?t=1374779818)
We're almost finished!
Now, all we have to do, is establish are chin and jaw line properly. This isn't difficult, and like lips, can be drawn in many ways.
Practice makes perfect.
Spoiler
(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o521/jamieboy3/part4-2.jpg?t=1374780512)

So, after all this, we can then commence to clean up, add hair and other fun details
Hope this was helpful, and here's to see the difference =
Spoiler
(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o521/jamieboy3/fin-1.jpg?t=1374781245)

Note - I messed up part of the nose. (The nostril.) It's not usualyl that wide, but it's not an important part of the lesson, so i'm too lazy to change it.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 25, 2013, 04:12:55 PM
I haven't critiqued anyone in a while, so here's a critique;

The first thing i immediately noticed is this. You have a natural "lean" towards the left side. What this essentially means is, that you're drawings are crooked/leaning. A good way to fix this however, is that whenever you start your figure drawing, you should establish a line of gravity using a ruler.

Second is, anatomy. Now, i realise that you're drawing in a stylised mannor, so what i say may not apply 100%.
When drawing a figure, it is best to construct a basic skeleton to work from. This will allos you to create a more, anatomically correct figure without it looking flat, and will help you understand how to fully draw poses out. The box technique is good, however i opt for a different way.
Also - The arm is drawn wrong. The left hand would not be able to hold the axe properly at that angle.
(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o521/jamieboy3/crit1.jpg?t=1374777703)


https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q72/s720x720/1075886_542683085792762_1462205155_n.jpg
This was done very quickly, so the drawing quality isn't the best. The main point i'm trying to show is construction, not the finished product. :)

This face has allot of errors. I feel it may be beneficial for me to critique this too.
The first and most evident problem with the face here, is that i don't think you've used any construction lines to create it, and instead you suffered from symbol drawing. When creating any face, we begin with the oval, and then, with this particular view, we place a smaller oval/circle in the middle.
We then, cut our initial oval in half, creating our x and y axis.
The X axis that we have drawn becomes our brow line.
Next, we draw the base of our face. I usually start this where teh X axis hits the big circle/oval. (Marked in pink)
After this, we then begin to illustrate where our jaw is, i usually do this using the Y axis, where the line hits the lowest oval. (marked in gren.)
Spoiler
(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o521/jamieboy3/part1.jpg?t=1374692259)(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o521/jamieboy3/part2.jpg?t=1374692281)

Great, now we have the base of our head! Now we can add details.
I'll start with the nose and ear. The ear is pretty self explanatory, and is placed in our mini circle! :P
The nose is easy in this view. To start off with placement, we draw a triangle. This allows us to see the rough shape and size of the nose, and can be drawn lightly, multiple times inorder to see what size looks best. (I usually guestimate. :P)
Eye is explained in picture. The eye is usually drawn smaller in realism.
Now for lips. The lips must be drawn where the jaw-line meets the skull, and in realism, it's height is half the distance between the eyes and nose.
Spoiler
(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o521/jamieboy3/part3.jpg?t=1374779818)
We're almost finished!
Now, all we have to do, is establish are chin and jaw line properly. This isn't difficult, and like lips, can be drawn in many ways.
Practice makes perfect.
Spoiler
(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o521/jamieboy3/part4-2.jpg?t=1374780512)

So, after all this, we can then commence to clean up, add hair and other fun details
Hope this was helpful, and here's to see the difference =
Spoiler
(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o521/jamieboy3/fin-1.jpg?t=1374781245)

Note - I messed up part of the nose. (The nostril.) It's not usualyl that wide, but it's not an important part of the lesson, so i'm too lazy to change it.

Thanks, but for a few critiques on the first image (the school girl with the axe) I was attempting to show the angle and perspective of her arm because the handle of the axe is slanted forward in the Z axis. But i did fix a lot of things in the digital version. I tried to remove that slant but after a while anime studio starts to lag because it renders things ahead of time so i started to get lazy. I'll try to move her hand to the left because now i really see how exaggerated the perspective is.

And thank you so much for the help on the realistic face design. I knew there were a lot of problems on that one because i did it without an actual picture of a person. Part of the lean you see is that i scan the pictures without taking them out of the sketchbook which makes it difficult to align it correctly.

(https://sphotos-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/q71/s720x720/1016351_545109112216826_987638546_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 25, 2013, 04:37:34 PM
A few things are still off because i haven't done any measurements but i'll probably work on that later

-Fixed the position of her arm

-Tilted the image gently to counteract the tilt of image traced over.

wasn't sure what to do with the thumb though Since i flipped her hand when i moved it to the other side i needed to keep the thumb on the same side.

(https://sphotos-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/q71/s720x720/1003333_545117878882616_2093521015_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 25, 2013, 08:51:41 PM
-I attempted to center the head
-worked on the position of her eyes and parts of her face.


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/s720x720/1016326_545247458869658_1702166713_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 26, 2013, 03:20:20 AM
Here's my actual first attempt at a realistic face.

This image i did without any guidelines or anything if i remember correctly. I believe i just started out with a head shape and worked up from there. Its based off a random image of a girl i found on google images. The angle and positioning is loyal to that image except for her clothes, eye color, and hair color.

I know already, the eyes are too big, the nose is too small, the angle and perspective might not be properly expressed. Shading is a bit challenged, and i was just experimenting with the gleam in her hair, you can see what i learned from it in the image of the blonde girl, its much more well done.

(https://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q83/s720x720/1075829_545365355524535_597971573_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: WatcherOfSky on July 26, 2013, 05:31:33 AM
Looks yummy.

No seriously, she does.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Jamie on July 26, 2013, 06:13:59 AM
I like it allot, well done! :)

I do thiknk you need to take more time when shading with coloured pencil. The colour is really scribbly, and i guarantee if you darkened it digitally, you'd see what i mena. It's still well drawn, and i'm a fan of it. :)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: David2302 on July 30, 2013, 10:12:50 AM
That is ALLOT better then the others!!
Very good!  :thumbsup:   :D
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: everlastin01 on July 30, 2013, 06:16:56 PM
You go Kesashi!

not trying to be mean or anything, but why is the nose flat and not at a slight angle with the mouth? it may be why the nose looks a bit small
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 03, 2013, 04:58:29 AM
You go Kesashi!

not trying to be mean or anything, but why is the nose flat and not at a slight angle with the mouth? it may be why the nose looks a bit small

There's some slight shading on the nose that the scanner didn't pick up. My brother had advised me to make the nose look less flat but after a certain point i no longer wanted to touch the picture.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 03, 2013, 05:50:48 AM
Since i haven't drawn anything recently i'll keep you all entertained with an old manga i drew. There are about 10 pages. This is pretty old and i know there are about a million things horribly wrong with it.

I apologize that although the pictures are read left to right the dialog boxes might be a little mixed up because of the position I had the characters drawn in.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Page 1

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q80/s720x720/945783_549942111733526_1463813641_n.jpg)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Page 2

(https://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/q81/s720x720/998066_549942035066867_1900935789_n.jpg)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Page 3

(https://sphotos-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q77/s720x720/988283_549942041733533_2135912614_n.jpg)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Page 4

(https://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/q79/s720x720/1003497_549942038400200_1196812697_n.jpg)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Page 5

(https://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q77/s720x720/988274_549948641732873_2097970460_n.jpg)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Page 6

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q81/s720x720/523408_549947595066311_1268739193_n.jpg)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Page 7 (* That should say "He's standing on my sister Ella" *)

(https://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q77/s720x720/564191_549947591732978_451670023_n.jpg)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Page 8

(https://sphotos-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/q84/s720x720/1003185_549954241732313_876985805_n.jpg)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Page 9

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q81/s720x720/1012251_549954235065647_2086603033_n.jpg)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Page 10 (* Temporarily *)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q80/s720x720/9097_549954218398982_1627471334_n.jpg)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Page 11

(https://sphotos-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/q71/s720x720/998595_549955071732230_294674198_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 03, 2013, 06:23:33 PM
I should add that most of my early artwork originated from comic books that i had drawn. As a result the characters were never too extraordinary such as the main villain Curse is just a guy with white hair, white eyes and black skin. Hes not wearing any extraordinary clothes or anything. The characters were designed as simple as possible  because i knew i'd have to draw them over and over again so only recently have i started designing special outfits like their school uniforms and such.

Here's an even older comic that was meant to bring the viewer deeper into the adventurer lifestyle in Sentieria. The curses do some random thing to cause chaos, the adventurers who were usually Esashi's group come and stop them. Of course when this comic was drawn the character Esashi was a boy. I changed him to a girl last year so his character wouldn't be so simple as the average cocky male warrior.

I'm going to be honest comic books where how i learned about my own characters. Because i usually came up with things on the spot, just drawing whatever came to my mind without any kind of outline or prewriting.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Page 1

(https://sphotos-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q77/s720x720/971213_550177658376638_942714661_n.jpg)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Page 2

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q77/s720x720/9075_550177581709979_1127271186_n.jpg)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Page 3 (* they're *)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/q74/s720x720/1004643_550177591709978_247886887_n.jpg)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Page 4

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/q79/s720x720/581697_550177598376644_712673643_n.jpg)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Page 5

(https://sphotos-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q75/s720x720/994532_550179075043163_1761081750_n.jpg)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Page 6

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q72/s720x720/970302_550179071709830_976769349_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 08, 2013, 02:10:44 AM
(https://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1149069_552029238191480_943346450_n.jpg)

Finished the picture of Lord kesashi  ;D
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Callesthe on August 08, 2013, 05:08:41 AM
Your drawing looks very nice! I really like the character design. Take notice that his right shoulder (our left) is a tad broader than his other shoulder. Also, don't be afraid to use more shadows, and maybe even some highlights if you think bigger shadows make your drawing too dark. I hope this helped, it's a very sweet drawing c:
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 08, 2013, 02:37:59 PM
Your drawing looks very nice! I really like the character design. Take notice that his right shoulder (our left) is a tad broader than his other shoulder. Also, don't be afraid to use more shadows, and maybe even some highlights if you think bigger shadows make your drawing too dark. I hope this helped, it's a very sweet drawing c:

Thank you  :hmm: I'll see what i can do to fix that. With anime studio it might be easier to just add more shading.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 08, 2013, 05:30:59 PM
Update:

(https://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q71/s720x720/537173_552324348161969_353610157_n.jpg)

Forgot to change the shading on a few parts...
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 09, 2013, 03:32:01 AM
World map for Sentieria

(http://sentieria-legends-online.webs.com/photos/Sentieria/World%20Map.jpg)

Highest resolution version
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 09, 2013, 03:33:59 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/s720x720/971785_550988074962263_1500908262_n.jpg)

Facebook resolution
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: KagePen on August 09, 2013, 05:36:16 AM
Man, maps make me so excited!  :biggrin: Nice work! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 10, 2013, 02:18:04 PM
Man, maps make me so excited!  :biggrin: Nice work! :thumbsup:

thanks man  ;D I just love making maps.

Just as so you guys know the continents are meant to spell out the name of the world with their first letter(Sentieria).

Sentera
Enceedra
Nypheria
Thynaria
Iseria
Era
Rashia
Ierleria
Arashnia

These names aren't based off any kind of word or anything I usually just tried to see what syllables i could put together in my head to make up a name. I know Iseria and Ierleria don't really count as continents since they're just big islands but i'm gonna call them continents anyway.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 12, 2013, 05:02:36 AM
Just to show off the distribution of powers for anybody interested in the actual series of Sentieria

(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Distribution%20of%20Powers.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 17, 2013, 12:08:59 AM
I'm working on a new realistic portrait. It's based on a picture of Jodelle Ferland, but it's meant to be one of my  characters.

(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/Taikichi_0001.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 17, 2013, 02:22:04 AM
Some more anime studio work:

(this is what Curses look like)
(https://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s720x720/309923_511827068878364_210367105_n.jpg)

Lord King
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/s720x720/1187276_556282031099534_1632720707_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 17, 2013, 05:37:51 PM
Concept art for Lord King and Lord Kesashi

(https://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q73/s720x720/1157744_556553967739007_1964001891_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 24, 2013, 07:07:27 PM
The Firstborn daughter of Curse: Ella Mental

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/q77/s720x720/1001267_559642940763443_2132284544_n.jpg)

She's summoning the indestructible diamond dragon.

Yeah I can't imagine naming my daughter a play the word "elemental"
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Jamie on August 24, 2013, 07:25:21 PM
Stop hiding your damn hands.

Head seems disproportionate to body, why are they so skinny/is the width of the body so small? Is this a stylistic choice?
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: TiNoSa on August 24, 2013, 07:32:22 PM
I've never seen a person who enjoys drawing maps, haha, this is the first time. Interesting.

It seems you improved, but keep studying anatomy and proportions to improve even more  ;)
I don't know if you like something more "chibi-like", but I noticed that your characters seem a little skinny, too. For example, sometimes the head surpasses some parts of the body in lenght. So never stop improving your proportions and anatomy  (and I know it's hard, I have some problems regarding this matter, too).
As for your coloring, it's nice, but as Callesthe have already pointed, don't be afraid to use more shadows sometimes ;D

That's it, I hope seeing more of your works ^^
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 24, 2013, 11:13:55 PM
Stop hiding your damn hands.

Head seems disproportionate to body, why are they so skinny/is the width of the body so small? Is this a stylistic choice?

xD if you really want me to i can start drawing them in poses that show off the hands more. Hands aren't really an issue for me so i normally don't hide them just to avoid drawing them.

I did notice her head was too big after i was finished and I planned to fix that in anime studio, so normally i do get lazy with certain things because I don't think much of my work before it's been traced over. Their thin body structures are my style. People have suggested i draw over-weight or largely muscular people but it's just not my preference.

I've never seen a person who enjoys drawing maps, haha, this is the first time. Interesting.

It seems you improved, but keep studying anatomy and proportions to improve even more  ;)
I don't know if you like something more "chibi-like", but I noticed that your characters seem a little skinny, too. For example, sometimes the head surpasses some parts of the body in lenght. So never stop improving your proportions and anatomy  (and I know it's hard, I have some problems regarding this matter, too).
As for your coloring, it's nice, but as Callesthe have already pointed, don't be afraid to use more shadows sometimes ;D

That's it, I hope seeing more of your works ^^

I'm still researching anatomy for proportions specifically for the head but as more a reflex I'd draw it too big because most of my characters are very young, and that's also the reason why they have such thin bodies. If I were drawing a much older personally a smaller head would probably be more natural when drawing. Real problem is I didn't draw too many guides for her head because I was more focused on a new eye-style i wanted to try and I really don't like it.

And thank you both for your responses :biggrin:

I'm going to start using Aion's "playing god" character creation before i draw my characters i need the practice.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Thy Obsessive Freak on August 25, 2013, 06:33:18 AM
Thought I'd respond.
Quite like the colour in your art or lord king is it? And quite the fashion, he just has to tell me where he does his clothes shopping. Plus your good at making your characters 3D, putting detail on them and clothes folds. Let alone perspectives, like look how you've got that dragon shaped around the girl like that. Looks as if he could spin around her all day like a rollarcooster rider.

Do have to give criticism though. For one, I'd have to back TiNoSa, I know you already agreed to her advice. But I feel it's a tad important you work on that if you don't mind me saying. To also note the way Lord King's arm is bent... to me it looks like he dislocated his arm from his shoulder... ouch. Sorry but I felt it was worth mentioning and could help doing it in that fashion :D . Also Lord King's hair looks as if he's hiding something under there (I wonder what?) He seems like the only one to have had this issue of having a stack of hair, so you probably intentionally did that, but if not, I'd recommended lowering the level of his hair next time. That's my advice anyways.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 25, 2013, 07:16:27 AM
@Thy Obsessive Freak

Thank you xD I knew Lord King was bad, seeing as when i was unable to choose what his close would be there was a lot of erasing and changing of the body that the anatomy got really distorted and I just really forced myself to finish it. And thank you I am now noticing how big his hair is I will fix that when I redraw Lord King.

I have been trying to work on that problem of mine. My art will start to get really bad if I'm too lazy to draw something or if I'm more focused on drawing something else.

I am very grateful for the detailed advice  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Thy Obsessive Freak on August 25, 2013, 07:30:48 AM
No probs, glad I could be of help.

EDIT: And the Lord King wasn't terrible, he just needs some work done, like the proportions and the hair.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 25, 2013, 10:15:29 PM
Update. I'm going to trace this in anime studio later

(https://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q79/s720x720/1175414_560103930717344_1013860547_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: suupertramp on August 26, 2013, 03:17:57 PM
nice improvement, i like the hair more.
it will look awesome once digitalised :P
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: TiNoSa on August 26, 2013, 05:39:08 PM
I think it's better, too ^^
Waiting to see the digitalized version now  ;)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 26, 2013, 07:28:29 PM
Okay this is going to be a little different because I'm going to be shading and setting the highlights manually. Normally I'd just let anime studio do the shading because its gradient style helps it look more organic but it can difficult to work with. I might use it on Ella's body and then make highlights manually but I'll just have to see how it looks first.

(https://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q80/s720x720/1208701_560480260679711_1571919765_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 27, 2013, 12:06:32 AM
I'm really liking it  :hmm: ; can't wait to do the highlights

(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/Sentieria/Ella%20Mental%20Beginning2.png)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: TiNoSa on August 27, 2013, 11:15:42 PM
Wow, looks nice!
Can't wait to see it finished o/
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: suupertramp on August 28, 2013, 09:57:19 AM
nice so far, looks like a pain to draw around each scale :P
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 29, 2013, 05:50:12 PM
Decided to add both of the shading  :thumbsup:

(https://sphotos-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/q71/s720x720/1002181_561749557219448_891589691_n.jpg)

Highest Quality

Spoiler
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Sragon%20with%20shading.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: DBNext on August 29, 2013, 05:54:17 PM
His teeth need a little more shading, and that mustache thing creeps me out  :ohmy:
Overall a nice piece
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: suupertramp on August 30, 2013, 10:57:35 AM
maybe make the moustache a bit more flowy like this (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/033/5/4/chinese_dragon_by_michobd-d4oei6p.jpg)
but good job so far, i agree with DB, the teeth could use a bit more shading.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 04, 2013, 07:57:04 PM
maybe make the moustache a bit more flowy like this (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/033/5/4/chinese_dragon_by_michobd-d4oei6p.jpg)
but good job so far, i agree with DB, the teeth could use a bit more shading.

Thanks i'll try that mustache design instead xD, and i did use too bright of a grey to shade the teeth I'll see what I can do about that.

I did some work on Lord King in my spare time in school.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q72/s720x720/555363_564297793631291_675828776_n.jpg)

I didn't have a picture of male anatomy in front of me when i drew this so xD i'll be cleaning it up for a while.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on September 04, 2013, 08:31:01 PM
You have dimension and form down but your proportions are not consistent. The character you just shown is pretty skinny by giving detail to his rib cage. But his muscles on his arm and his abs don't fit. Even if he was meant to be skinny, he's "too skinny". His shoulders are far too close to his neck, making his neck appear too long.

For hair, its far too back to his head. If you establish the hairline, you can see it goes far past his forhead. But at least you established thickness to it. So its not the most problematic part.

By the way, how old is Lord King? If he's around his late teens to adulthood, then you should aim to make their eyes slightly smaller and his face slightly longer by giving him more chin and less "cheeks". But even so, if he was meant to appear younger, his babyface doesn't appear to fit with his built body yet skinny figure.

His pants hide his entire form of his legs. And its hard to determine if he's wearing denim, khakis, or just cloth. The pants are just slim straight. You need to add some folds or creases. The smallest things give texture to your clothes.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 04, 2013, 10:08:09 PM
Thank you Loren  :thumbsup: as thorough as always. With such a workload, I'll probably just redraw him again.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 26, 2013, 02:01:15 AM
First render of the picture of Ella

(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Ella%20Mental%20First%20Render.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: jp89 on September 26, 2013, 04:12:29 AM
Looks good! :-)

A quick tip: white on white is a little hard to "read." Adding some sort of background—even if it's just a quick bit of color—can help define things a little and make the image easier to look at:

(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/269/3/0/anime1_by_jdp89-d6nxl6p.png)

Of course, doing that makes the white appear even brighter. Pure whites really don't occur in art (except for very reflective highlights), so it might be a good idea to darken them a little, and bring in a little of the surrounding color (ambient light). In this case it would probably look better to make the white suit and hair ever so slightly darker, with a hint of magenta/pink. Done right they would still appear white, but they wouldn't be unnaturally so.

I think I've rambled on enough.  :tongue:
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 26, 2013, 06:03:20 PM
Looks good! :-)

A quick tip: white on white is a little hard to "read." Adding some sort of background—even if it's just a quick bit of color—can help define things a little and make the image easier to look at:

(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/269/3/0/anime1_by_jdp89-d6nxl6p.png)

Of course, doing that makes the white appear even brighter. Pure whites really don't occur in art (except for very reflective highlights), so it might be a good idea to darken them a little, and bring in a little of the surrounding color (ambient light). In this case it would probably look better to make the white suit and hair ever so slightly darker, with a hint of magenta/pink. Done right they would still appear white, but they wouldn't be unnaturally so.

I think I've rambled on enough.  :tongue:

Wow, I hadn't noticed how right you are  ;D I'll try to darken the clothes and hair and make sure it's still the brightest color  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 28, 2013, 12:26:11 PM
Alright time for the second render  ;D

I Really hate facebook's quality.

(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1377141_574366762624394_1859656646_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: xristie on September 28, 2013, 12:44:59 PM
:thumbsup: nice job

it needs a little shade on the right side of the face and neck, same like you have on the throusers and cloak... 
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 29, 2013, 09:19:50 PM
:thumbsup: nice job

it needs a little shade on the right side of the face and neck, same like you have on the throusers and cloak...

Alright, third render time  ;D . Apparently its defies the laws of digital physics for anime studio to put a shading effect with a gradient effect  :hmm: (the head has a gradient for the illusion of shading) so instead i used the auto shading on layer shading. Only problem i had with that was the fact that the head and the neck were on the same layer, and the shading would stack. So i'd either have to separate them in order to keep the shading illusion under the head and... who cares third render...

(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Ella%20Mental%20Third%20Render.jpg)


Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on September 29, 2013, 10:00:42 PM
arm is actually way to short. did u draw the clothes first? and again. please provide waist line
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 30, 2013, 06:07:40 PM
arm is actually way to short. did u draw the clothes first? and again. please provide waist line


I actually did draw the body first, if you mean hairline i'll see what I can do. I actually went and looked up waist line and it seemed pretty proportional.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on September 30, 2013, 06:40:55 PM
then draw the body how it looks before drawing the clothes. look at the arm. if its extended like that, should it be that short?


her hands are tiny. like a baby. and where is the waist?
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 30, 2013, 07:36:03 PM
then draw the body how it looks before drawing the clothes. look at the arm. if its extended like that, should it be that short?


her hands are tiny. like a baby. and where is the waist?

The waist should be at the middle of her left arm, somewhere in that general region.

Spoiler
(http://www.bestylish.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/natural-waistline.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 30, 2013, 10:57:47 PM
Random quick-sketch of Esashi

(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Esashi%20Sketch.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on October 01, 2013, 11:07:42 AM
draw bigger hands. didn't you just tell me you were going to aim for more older realistic style than the cutesy ones?
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on October 01, 2013, 11:50:22 AM
draw bigger hands. didn't you just tell me you were going to aim for more older realistic style than the cutesy ones?

I am going to, but I'm learning proportionality before i do that
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on October 01, 2013, 02:03:54 PM
try both at the same time. it's not like you need another set of arms to do what you need to do.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: suupertramp on October 01, 2013, 04:22:12 PM
yeah, while you can focus mainly on one, it cant hurt if you know already you are doing something wrong to try and do it better :P
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on October 06, 2013, 04:12:50 PM
Well I used my own hands for reference in this one so I hope they're big enough. However, this is probably as realistic as my style's going to get.

Telan Takahashi is one of the teachers in Sentieria Legends.

(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1383341_577753112285759_929900938_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on October 06, 2013, 11:13:15 PM
but the body is too long. compare the legs to the length of the arms.


are you absolutely sure you sraw their bodies before drawing their clothes on?


it looks like they are either all anorexic or their secretly coat hangers underneath those clothes.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on October 06, 2013, 11:38:46 PM
I am 100% certain I start with a stick figure and then I draw them step by step like this

(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs10/i/2006/117/f/0/Female_Anatomy_Study_V2_by_jcevil.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on October 07, 2013, 12:54:02 AM
i don't think you do. can u draw a character semi nude?

either you have no idea how to do proportions when it comes to legs. or you make their clothes over shadow their body features. or you make them soo kinny, we can't see body features.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on October 07, 2013, 06:28:21 PM
Let me show you

It starts off like this
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Skeleton.jpg)

before I do the real anatomy it turns into this
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Body%20Structure.jpg)

There are still two more steps before I draw the clothes.

3: clean up step 2
4: draw the body

Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on October 07, 2013, 06:37:02 PM
step one is already wrong. you made it too long. if you look at step 2, you can also see how it doesn't matche up to your characters pose. some of it goes barely outside the clothes. and thats something that should be visible
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on October 07, 2013, 07:00:24 PM
step one is already wrong. you made it too long. if you look at step 2, you can also see how it doesn't matche up to your characters pose. some of it goes barely outside the clothes. and thats something that should be visible

Okay "too long" is kinda hard for me to reference especially since I can't see it completely on my own so i guess its time for some more anatomy training

I acutally don't see how it doesn't match up, although its not meant to match up perfectly, because its just a guideline to help me picture it. I 'm not sure how to depict that any more than I did with the clothes folding and wrapping around his body as they lightly flow in the wind, but maybe zerochan has the answer.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on October 07, 2013, 07:55:19 PM
for one, to draw clothes you need to understand how clothes works.

the thicker the clothes, the wider folds and creases are, but also means less folds than something that thin.


but here, you have the clothes thin, but see no physical aspects. the waist is too small to even be visible. if that model you used isn't accurate, then its wrong.

compare the arm length of the right arm to the left. even with that model you used, it should still be obvious their not the same length.


look how long the abdomen is. WHy do you even do step 2 if the clothes makes all that hidden?
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: xristie9 on October 07, 2013, 08:01:34 PM
step one is already wrong. you made it too long. if you look at step 2, you can also see how it doesn't matche up to your characters pose. some of it goes barely outside the clothes. and thats something that should be visible

Okay "too long" is kinda hard for me to reference especially since I can't see it completely on my own so i guess its time for some more anatomy training

I acutally don't see how it doesn't match up, although its not meant to match up perfectly, because its just a guideline to help me picture it. I 'm not sure how to depict that any more than I did with the clothes folding and wrapping around his body as they lightly flow in the wind, but maybe zerochan has the answer.

How... now...
You did the exactly right thing, you thought about it and tried it!!!
You did nothing wrong in this process...

I agree you need to have a more realistic eye in sketching skeletons, but it takes a lot of time and trying to master it... so do not absolutely worry!!! You have to try for months... nobody expects you to improve in one week or so... you will master it...

I will try to help you understand... (the proper amount is sometime less than 0,5cm, so it takes only training and time to see it, I will tell you what went wrong in this picture, as for future you will come to understand it with time)

The first anatomy sketch with lines and circles as joints is quite right in the process... If you train your eye a little bit more, you will see that the spine is about 1cm too long, the pelvis joints should be about 0,5cm wider, and the arm which is bowed should be either about less than 0,5 cm higher or lower (differs from the perspective you wanted to draw, I assume a little bit higher and shorter would do the trick).

The second one is also the next right step, and also if you train a little bit more, you will come to understand that the pelvis part in that position should have a more like diamond or triangle shape.

I strongly recommend you to try re-sketching the poses that you posted in the previous post on October 06, 2013, 09:38:46 PM (the black picture) and then finish them as your characters… it will definitely help you understand… after that you can make experiments with the poses, or find more skeletons on the internet and try to draw your characters according to them…

Do not worry about clothes, they aren’t bad, if you improve in the anatomy part, the clothes will come esily…

 Try to think about what I pointed out and whether it would make a difference if you would draw the picture with the about 0,5 cm differences I pointed out in the first step... It is about training your eye and thinking how reality looks like on the paper... 

(Actually I quite like you sketches so I hope you will continue to draw! And I can understand that you cannot see the differences at first sight because I went through that phase and really know how invisible they can be!)

Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: P4 on October 08, 2013, 12:10:17 AM
user retired
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on October 08, 2013, 01:19:09 AM
I see i suppose I've just gotten used to drawing the clothes like a 2-Dimensional plane because it was easier.

Well good thing is I can use my own body for reference which will make it much easier.

I normally do use resources like these (http://sevencamels.blogspot.com/2011/03/resources-for-drawing-different-ages.html) but the majority of the time I spend drawing is when I can't reference these physically, so i'd just go by memory.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on November 03, 2013, 11:03:15 PM
Alright, this one's my first practice with my new shading techniques(Normally I shade it as though I'm going to color it later, but this based on the shading of a black and white photo).

(https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1458485_592421147485622_1200956766_n.jpg)

I planned to draw three other characters in this picture, but I'll probably never get around to it.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: everlastin01 on November 03, 2013, 11:05:52 PM
really good....uh I think is thumb is on the wrong side of his hand
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on November 04, 2013, 07:43:55 AM
Well indeed it is, how strange I didn't notice it.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: DBNext on November 04, 2013, 02:26:07 PM
Other than the thumb, I see a couple errors:
1- His body is way too slim and long.
2- His foot is smaller than his hand.
3- Eyes look a little 2D-ish.
4- The jacket is incomplete. It needs the other side from the back:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1450814_175807179283346_1275707387_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on November 05, 2013, 11:11:47 PM
@DBNext

1. I mean no disrespect, but as I told Lorenx1, That doesn't help me in any way, shape or form. I'm going to need you to pretend like I don't have a perfect version of this image to contrast. I need to know what makes it too long, what makes it too thin, how you can see that so much better than me. Because right now to me, aside from his hands being flipped the wrong way, the image looks perfect; I need you to explain to me why it is not. Too slim and too long is a big change to make, especially if I don't naturally like the way I'm imagining it fixed.

2. I'll have to remember that, don't know why I didn't think about it.

3. I see, that's just a problem with the way I shaped them, I'll have to work on that next time.

4. It's meant to disconnect at the back past the waist. That darkly shaded triangular shape between the legs is not the leg of the chair, its a part of the jacket to show I cut it off on purpose.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on November 06, 2013, 12:04:30 AM
1. you can just make him thicker and slightly shorter. or find anatomy book and follow the proportions to it. or read more manga.

and i find the problem to be that you draw these characters like toothpicks, like bendy straws. look at the wrists, and the forarms. when i see your characters, i dont see these individual body parts, i see sstick figures with meat. and i'm sorry if that sounds off but.

i kept telling you, you make feet and hands too small, and when you make them small, the legs and arms appear longer. you're still stuck in that inconsistent chibi style.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Ryan on November 06, 2013, 12:49:44 AM
@DBNext

1. I mean no disrespect, but as I told Lorenx1, That doesn't help me in any way, shape or form. I'm going to need you to pretend like I don't have a perfect version of this image to contrast. I need to know what makes it too long, what makes it too thin, how you can see that so much better than me. Because right now to me, aside from his hands being flipped the wrong way, the image looks perfect; I need you to explain to me why it is not. Too slim and too long is a big change to make, especially if I don't naturally like the way I'm imagining it fixed.

2. I'll have to remember that, don't know why I didn't think about it.

3. I see, that's just a problem with the way I shaped them, I'll have to work on that next time.

4. It's meant to disconnect at the back past the waist. That darkly shaded triangular shape between the legs is not the leg of the chair, its a part of the jacket to show I cut it off on purpose.

You should be using reference of a man/boy sitting for a scene with a perspective like this. It will help with the anatomy that you need to know to draw the pose convincingly. And you should also be studying perspective, which will help your figures.

 You need to know perspective in order to maintain proportion in perspective-heavy scenes. It's not just transferring what you see in shapes. It's transferring what the proportions are in perspective, whether it's length or width. If it's length, you have to locate the correct side plane of a form and then transfer it down. I recommend perspective made easy by ernest norling.

Right now, your innate sense of proportion(and basic form) needs work. You need to study the proportion of the body, and take it to memory.

So to try and sum all of this up into something you can work with:

1. Start with Perspective Made Easy by Ernest Norling. Great book, it is. You can find it online. Read it through and practice what it teaches, but make sure you can draw boxes in 1-point and 2-point perspective using the perspective techniques like vanishing points and horizon lines. This can take however long, but I would recommend at least 5 pages of practice with perspective.

2. You might have already known formal perspective, but it's worth it to review it. Now that you have an idea of what convergence is, you can think about it in your own work and with this next study. Read The Vilppu Drawing Manual by Glen Vilppu. You can find it online. It teaches the drawing of the basic forms. Draw a lot of basic forms! And when you feel like you've gotten good with them, you should test it out with your own drawings by putting them into your process. You need to feel the forms and the space that you put them in. If you can do this, the legs you draw won't be flatly stuck to the chair.

3. Now you're ready to really study proportion. Go read Figure Drawing for All It's Worth by Andrew Loomis, or another figure-drawing book of your choice. Now you have the power and tools to put the understanding proportion will give you into your drawings. You should now always be asking yourself "In relation to such and such, am I drawing this part too big, small, wide, or long?" Drawing is a thinking process, whether you're thinking visually or in words. Do a lot of gesture drawings from http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/ The Glenn Vilppu Drawing Manual also teaches gesture drawing, so you will have an idea of what that is as well. Eventually, some proportions will become much easier for you to maintain. You just have to do it right many, many time with conscious effort before it happens.

If you were to do these things, you would learn a lot. You will learn why that chair doesn't look that great. You will learn why the head you drew looks weird(the eyes are drawn as if the face is turned towards us, but the sides of the face indicate that he's looking straight forwards(not at us). But, focus on learning the material. Always. If you read it without focusing on learning, without believing that you are learning something from it, you won't learn anything.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: DBNext on November 06, 2013, 04:04:42 AM
@DBNext

1. I mean no disrespect, but as I told Lorenx1, That doesn't help me in any way, shape or form. I'm going to need you to pretend like I don't have a perfect version of this image to contrast. I need to know what makes it too long, what makes it too thin, how you can see that so much better than me. Because right now to me, aside from his hands being flipped the wrong way, the image looks perfect; I need you to explain to me why it is not. Too slim and too long is a big change to make, especially if I don't naturally like the way I'm imagining it fixed.

Yes you do have a perfect image to contrast it with, and it comes from Google or real life. Have you ever drawn a person from reference? search "anatomy" on Google and just copy. Because you seem like you're drawing purely from your mind.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on November 07, 2013, 01:33:36 AM
@DBNext,
I didn't come to this forum just to go back to google or anatomy books. I could have told me that, as I was trying to say, I need you to tell me something i don't know. The fact is that 15 years of observation, obviously, isn't enough to meet the standard.

And as I've said before, the majority of the time I spend drawing is when I can't access a source or image to reproduce. This image was all memory, and that's why I posted it, to see what's wrong with my memory.

@Lorenx1
Because I don't naturally like the way it looks I'll probably never begin drawing my characters wider unless it's meant to be photorealistic. I will however practice making them shorter, especially since I am about as thin as these characters without being just skin and bones. With this character being no older than 16, I won't discredit myself as a reference. My hands are that size as well, at least in reference to my head, with one hand being 50% the surface area of my face each.

@Ryan
Thank you Ryan, when I reproduce this image on a larger scale I'll try to put as much time into it as I can. Before I do that I will need to do some more straightforward anatomy training(with them just standing in a symmetrical pose). I'll post my practice work next time.



Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Zealapeal on November 07, 2013, 03:34:43 AM
@DBNext,
I didn't come to this forum just to go back to google or anatomy books. I could have told me that, as I was trying to say, I need you to tell me something i don't know. The fact is that 15 years of observation, obviously, isn't enough to meet the standard.

And as I've said before, the majority of the time I spend drawing is when I can't access a source or image to reproduce. This image was all memory, and that's why I posted it, to see what's wrong with my memory.

DBN and I don't see eye to eye on a lot of things, but if there's one thing I agree with him on, it's this.

First of all, lemme enlighten you on a little bit.

1.) This forum will not answer all of your artistic quarrels. This is merely the tip of the iceberg into art.
2.) Manga and other forms of art are all derived from reality. Google and anatomy books are ways to break down reality into a simplification, making it easier to convert into other art forms, e.g. manga.
3.) You have fifteen years of seeing and looking around, not true observation. Observation and going through reality with your eyes are two different things. As an artist, you must learn to see more than what you see now.

If you're looking for error and faults in your memory, know that it is everywhere. Thus, using a reference, learning from reference, and comparing to a reference would help dramatically in everything. Never discount the power that is Google and books. There is a reason for their continued use and existence.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on November 07, 2013, 06:34:34 PM
@Zealapeal

I wasn't trying to say there's anything's wrong with referencing, and I do, mostly with my own body. I was only suggesting that he elaborate on his suggestions so that i can put it into action.

I don't take any suggestions lightly, they do show up in time in my artwork.

Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on December 06, 2013, 06:29:42 PM
Knowing 1, 2, and 3 point perspective makes drawing this so much easier I must say. I don't know how I ever drew without it, anyway I had to make a cover for my novel, thought i'd post it since I don't have much else to show.

(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1471230_608692735858463_1867862775_n.jpg)

Haha, just noticed of all things to forget I forgot the glare in her eyes.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Echo_River on December 06, 2013, 08:10:53 PM
Ooh, nice perspective. *eyes the skirt*
For the eyes, at least you didn't forget the shading.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: everlastin01 on December 07, 2013, 12:04:07 PM
is she wearing shorts under the skirt?
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on December 07, 2013, 03:00:45 PM
is she wearing shorts under the skirt?

Yeah, I just didn't want to draw panties is all. Hard to make her look like a boss with a panty shot right in the focus point.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: everlastin01 on December 08, 2013, 03:28:49 PM
okay, that is understandable
Great perspective and drawing by the way! (sorry to mention this in first post)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on December 08, 2013, 03:50:43 PM
@Lorenx1
Because I don't naturally like the way it looks I'll probably never begin drawing my characters wider unless it's meant to be photorealistic. I will however practice making them shorter, especially since I am about as thin as these characters without being just skin and bones. With this character being no older than 16, I won't discredit myself as a reference. My hands are that size as well, at least in reference to my head, with one hand being 50% the surface area of my face each.

Does a fat maga artist only draw fat ppl? It doesn't matter what's your weight. See, this is where you need to realize: "Should I draw characters just because I look like this?"

You can use yourself as a reference to proportionate length. But also work on how to make them distinct. None of your characters look "healthy". You can't use you as a reference for all characters that age.

This is a major flaw in yyour method of choosing proportions.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: David2302 on December 09, 2013, 09:27:19 AM
waaaaaaaw this draw is awsome!
much better then the first ones that for sure!
you have really improved.
keep on drawing
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on December 20, 2013, 09:49:06 PM
Anther drawing in my freetime at school. Indeed now I respect any animator that has to draw and animate chains.

Spoiler
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/734518_615092215218515_1503761105_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on December 20, 2013, 10:13:57 PM
same issues. dont have to repeat myself.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on December 20, 2013, 10:16:50 PM
So, small hands, emaciated bodies and bad references right?
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on December 20, 2013, 10:18:33 PM
exactly. but i made a resonce to you a while back. its about time you improved, because at this point, its a choice now. you know what to do. and if you need me to repeat, i could. but it depends on how oblivious you are.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on December 20, 2013, 10:35:41 PM
If you really think i'm psychologically holding myself back, Do you have the mathematical dimensions/proportions for the human body or know where or how I could get them?

I personally don't see how much bigger my hands need to get, but I can feel the emaciation in her lower body, and I know math solves all problems. So if you know where I can get such guidelines, improvement can come a little faster.

(http://www.exchange3d.com/images/uploads/aff2861/Male%20Body/Male_Body_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Zealapeal on December 20, 2013, 10:51:41 PM
The human body does a wonderful job following the golden ratio, and can be divided as such if you require mathematics.

There are also proportions which can be in ratio in accordance with the human head, which are shown below the golden ratio photo. Loomis, dude.

Spoiler
(http://files.myopera.com/reizvih/albums/1201241/golden-ratio-human-body.gif)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JaI0xS0zO-o/TgEFAdsULII/AAAAAAAAABE/v2B_skUdW_E/s1600/Loomis%2527+Proportions.png)
(http://www.foundation3d.com/uploads/instruction/2008/10/17-10-622362.jpg)
(http://www.webcomicalliance.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/prop_female.gif)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6ge3uxy8m1qkqjvho4_1280.png)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on December 20, 2013, 11:02:20 PM
Zealapeal you are an amazing human being, just saying. You are amazing.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: legomaestro on December 20, 2013, 11:59:49 PM
Loomis... mein gott.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on December 21, 2013, 01:18:47 AM
the hand is "slightly" wider than the wrist. the point of placing joints in your outline isn't only to know proper distance, but know when to make certain parts of the body wider or thinner.

For example: Look at the forearm, the biceps, and the hands separately. then connect them, you should notice that they dont just blend in completely. the hand looks like a separate entity from the arm. you have to look at each section individually, and then look at them together (and i'm not talking about when you're drawing, just observing the right one).

IN the past you've admitted to making your characters too skinny because its based on your proportions. Even for the average teenager, you also have to consider making your characters more built.

i'm not saying you should ignore accurate proportions, but in general, it's not needed. you see that model? all you have to do is make it look like that, but thinner (not skinnier) if you can figure that out. you'll see a lot more.

I would rather you draw your characters nude or wearing skin tightclothes, as you also have issues with drawing clothes. it seems all of the clothes are the same texture.

Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on December 23, 2013, 07:01:56 PM
Okay, Loren and Zealapeal, you two are amazing, i jest felt compelled to share that. Anyway time to fix that picture

Loren-sama's request:
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Touch%20Up.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on December 23, 2013, 07:10:27 PM
Can you see how off the mody is? The legs arent consistent.

Her shoulders are a bit out of place and so is the neck.

Look at the waist, it shows that bottom half is devouring the top half, rather than the two being one.


This proves how much clothes influence your proportions.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on December 23, 2013, 07:38:31 PM
Yeah that picture(the old one) was just drawn with mostly action lines. I was pretty anxious to see it done.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on December 23, 2013, 10:14:32 PM
Spoiler
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Body.jpg)

Sorry, didn't expect it to actually upload at full size for once.

Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on December 29, 2013, 11:09:45 PM
I also decided to work on this one, i like to have an up to date portrait of Kesashi

Spoiler
(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1504525_618960048165065_435625058_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on December 30, 2013, 01:03:33 AM
Much Better

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1528716_618986684829068_1443389951_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on December 30, 2013, 02:50:35 PM
(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q71/s720x720/1491605_619260251468378_339883137_n.jpg)

References:
Shoes
(http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/839481685/Male-child-leather-font-b-shoes-b-font-tuxedo-uniforms-child-formal-font-b-dress-b.jpg)

How to draw moe characters
https://yande.re/pool/show/1376

Male Proportions Chart
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-H-nFf7Wtm88/TX5SRnpLUPI/AAAAAAAADiQ/xdSewOYdUVM/s1600/MaleProportionsPeck.jpg)

Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Echo_River on December 31, 2013, 06:58:38 PM
Ooh, character re-draw? It's nice!
I would point out the torso. The rest of the body is on an angle but the torso still seems to be facing forward.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: David2302 on January 01, 2014, 02:22:06 PM
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b617/davidm2302/Sketch13155959_zps98b6cc3e.png)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on January 02, 2014, 01:43:42 PM
Haha Feliz Nuevos Años David

Spoiler
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Kesashi%20Revamp%20(2).jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: David2302 on January 03, 2014, 01:02:52 PM
Feliz Nuevos what?
what is that meens?
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: legomaestro on January 03, 2014, 01:20:58 PM
Sounds sort of like Fortune and New.

I think it's happy new year >...>
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on January 03, 2014, 03:32:08 PM
It's spanish for "Happy New Year"
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Zealapeal on January 03, 2014, 07:42:14 PM
It's spanish for "Happy New Year"

No, it's Spanish for, "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Christmas." Good try, though.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on January 04, 2014, 12:08:17 AM
You're thinking of feliz navidad Zeal haha

Feliz = happy

Nuevo(a) = new

Año = year
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Zealapeal on January 04, 2014, 04:07:31 AM
Oh! Haha! I totally misread that. My bad.  :blush:
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: David2302 on January 05, 2014, 12:18:04 AM
Feliz nuevo ano to you to...    ye...   :hmm:
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on January 21, 2014, 09:09:14 PM
New Political World Map:

Small
(http://killerrotationlegends.webs.com/photos/undefined/Wold%20Map.jpg)

Highest Resolution
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/021/1/b/wold_map_by_lord_kesashi-d736uh3.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on January 21, 2014, 10:01:47 PM
again....getting ahead of yourself...not that this isn't bad, but you're too focused on adding details, rather than adding concepts with a focus.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on January 21, 2014, 11:16:01 PM
Indeed I am getting ahead of myself, but I also have a focus.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on January 22, 2014, 12:07:28 AM
i know you do....but not on adding proper flow in your story.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on January 22, 2014, 11:27:48 AM
Well i know I wont get far just talking big with you, in due time i will post the first chapter of sentieria, but for now more drawing.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on January 22, 2014, 11:31:00 AM
you have too many landmarks.....whats the point of making so many cities, and temples....you can't possibly use them all consistently.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on January 22, 2014, 02:41:41 PM
You forget Sentieria is a story of world war, and a very long story at that, don't worry, these places are based on the elapse of the story, not the other way around.  ;D
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on January 22, 2014, 03:18:43 PM
no...im not. forgetting that.... you just forget CONSTANTLY you need to aim for simplicity. and war as a major factor was never brought up. i do know that even if ypu used all these places, it wouldnt be important to use.

either way...cnt help you. so please dont PM me any more of your story ideas.

all i can do is help you with art at this point. but thats it.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on January 22, 2014, 10:34:56 PM
As you wish madam Loren, it pains me that you assume after endlessly brainwashing me to invoke simplicity, I would not give it the slightest thought now? Ye of little faith, do not let your heart be hardened so soon. You are looking at the map as a whole without knowing the method behind it.

Quantity is not synonymous with complexity, and of course I don't need to give each place an extensive background stories for every detail of each place for them to be important. My brain may only be little over halfway through its development at this age, but I am not so foolish as to ignore your constructive criticism.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on January 22, 2014, 11:13:37 PM
you wouldn't ever need a map EVER even if you show this place twice. i'm not confusing complexity, i know its complex if you think you will need a map to tell your story.

Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on January 22, 2014, 11:19:28 PM
Oh no i don't 'need' a map, i just enjoy making them  ;D, as I said before, the map was designed after the story's concepts, not the other way around. Only thing i'll need a map for is if Sentieria successfully takes off as a MMORPG.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on January 22, 2014, 11:35:38 PM
MMORPGs are cute ideas that everyone wants to do, but in a time when MMORPGs are popular, its like trying to make something everyone else already made..
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on January 23, 2014, 12:01:25 AM
What's the difference in Manga, Books, Console games? MMORPGs hardly compare in numbers.

Your gruesome tone almost sounds as though you speak from experience.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on January 23, 2014, 12:21:37 AM
the difference is clear.....if you cant see it, then youll have
to figure it out. theres a reason why there are few of them.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on January 23, 2014, 12:30:36 AM
I know why there are few, it's naturally a bad investment. A bad investment because it's extraordinarily difficult, time consuming and yields the failure rate of North Korea's nuclear technology. However, with a steady manga/anime series, various console games, and a mass of worshipers calling themselves a 'fandom' Sentieria will have no trouble becoming an MMORPG, but an MMORPG is out of the question until I make every other dream come true.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on January 23, 2014, 01:22:44 AM
oh yeah...its so easy reaching all of those things....in fact, if i dont see you get there by next week, i'll be surprised and might even protest...

no, but seriously, you constantly spearhead, no one and i mean NO ONE can help you in this story. you don't want to break your idea down, the moment you tackle one aspect of your story, you think its solved and you spear head.

Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on January 23, 2014, 04:27:53 AM
You're so encouraging, i'm old enough to know life's not easy. What comes in one day is easily gone the next. I'm prepared to work for my dreams, however difficult they may be; in fact, their difficulty will only make them that much better in the end. I'm sorry I'm a very positive person, because that kind of negativity will get me nowhere.

Ah but that's where you're wrong, Loren-sama, and you've told me this many times before. So I have broken down the story and it's quite simple. At least, now it is. I admit I am no spartan, if I spearheaded it was by ignorance not by choice. "NO ONE can help me" that's a complete lie. That is the ultimate manifestation of a lie. A pure bred lie of royal blood.

For instance, do you have so little faith in yourself that you believe you have done nothing to help me? Perhaps you can't make me perfect over night, your criticism, though true and helpful in all ways, it was not absolute. You yourself, tackle one (or two) aspect(s) and then leave me to work alone. I bet when you looked at the picture of Kesashi next to the first picture of him i posted and saw no difference. It's not so much no one can help me, it's just not very many people want to help me (though you're the first and last i've asked). I know you just don't have the time and patience to help me.

You treat me like I already know everything there is to writing a story and just made a few little mistakes here and there. I know more than the average 15 year old, but I also only know what you've told me. I love making Sentieria, I love the characters, I love the world, I love it all too much, even if it takes a thousand revisions just to get anywhere I'll do it. I'll sooner die than give up that's for sure. And if no one will help me, then I'll help myself.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on February 10, 2014, 02:42:42 AM
Most recent concept art of felicia. Considering she transforms into the living bones of a dragon i was curious about part of her body being visible while transformed.

Spoiler
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Skeleton%20of%20the%20Diamond%20Dragon%20Sketch.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: KagePen on March 17, 2014, 10:06:45 AM
The lines are pretty scratchy but considering that it is concept art it can be ignored. Overall it looks pretty cool, is it concept art for your story?
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on March 28, 2014, 06:53:27 PM
Indeed it is  ;D here's a few recent sketches to console for my absence

Drawn out of Boredom
(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/q71/s720x720/1909389_663624990365237_438874698_o.jpg)

More concept art of Felicia
(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t31.0-8/q72/s720x720/1614476_663624963698573_664558034_o.jpg)

Concept art if Taikichi
(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t31.0-8/q77/s720x720/10001261_663624977031905_686522161_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Wolfenn on March 29, 2014, 12:50:34 AM
Hi Kesashi, I can see you have a lot of work but one piece of advice is that you should try going back to the basics and practicing more in depth things, for example a lot of your characters all have the same sort of fae without any expression and it would be useful to invest some of your time into doing some studies on expression and emotion and what happens to the eyebrows or eyes or mouth when a person is happy, angry, etc. :)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on March 29, 2014, 10:40:18 PM
I'll take your word for it
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on April 28, 2014, 06:48:29 PM
Well I was playing around with different hairstyles on my protagonist... still feeling indecisive on that.

(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10157355_677791555615247_6304442355022296069_n.jpg)

Also I recently invested a considerably.. large sum of money into some physical art supplies so my season of improvement begins now.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on April 28, 2014, 06:58:50 PM
the elvel of detail on the face and eyes don't fit the proportions. for big eyes, having them that detailed looks a bit off. at least your characters are starting to look alittle older...but as for the hair.do you have anything such as .05 lead pencils?
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on April 28, 2014, 08:05:56 PM
Indeed I use a 0.5 pencil at all times and mostly use wooden for shading.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on April 28, 2014, 09:28:42 PM
.05 cm lead pencil. .5 is pretty thick. either way, i owuld like to see without the shading, or try shading with just the .05 just so you can see.

don't worry about using realistic shading. hatching works fine too
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Coryn on April 28, 2014, 09:41:27 PM
Well I think Kesashi was referring to standard .5 lead. which at least around here lead is measure in mm. which 0.5mm = 0.05cm. So I'm pretty sure you're both talking about the same lead size.

half a centimeter doesn't even count as a pencil anymore. that's just graphite chalk.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on April 28, 2014, 09:53:10 PM
oh cm, sorry my lead was measured in millimeters, i thought 0.05mm would be pretty... microscopic for shading, but I will try it.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: KagePen on June 07, 2014, 04:43:57 AM
Wow Kesashi, your stuff has improved a lot, well done :) Keep it up!
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on June 12, 2014, 02:50:00 PM
No malice Loren, but you're going to hate how appealing I find the Chibi style.

(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10440264_701709109890158_6547821521404346029_n.jpg)

This is the closest I'm going to get to fan art, similar wardrobe to a character from Pixiv Fantasia, i'll change it up later cause I'm not loving it right now.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: everlastin01 on June 13, 2014, 11:17:01 PM
It looks good though
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: legomaestro on June 13, 2014, 11:27:22 PM
That one does look nice. What did you use for colour?

Also, it looks different from your usual style.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on June 20, 2014, 02:45:01 AM
Thanks; I used color pencil for that one. I've been trying to practice my technique with color pencil, since I bought a guide book for color pencil art, it has become my new favorite medium.

Here's some other unfinished practice pictures

Spoiler
(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10393982_705700849490984_6263457116023427007_n.jpg)

Spoiler
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/q77/s720x720/10405649_705700836157652_8233706881662591119_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on June 20, 2014, 03:14:34 AM
No malice Loren, but you're going to hate how appealing I find the Chibi style.

This is the closest I'm going to get to fan art, similar wardrobe to a character from Pixiv Fantasia, i'll change it up later cause I'm not loving it right now.

There is nothing wrong with Chibi style. I enjoy Chibi style. but in your previous works you attempted to push chibi influences into works that just didn't work. you had tiny round faces, big eyes, with thin and long bodies.

this isn't trying to be multiple styles. although i will say there are too many folds for clothes for chibi style.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on June 20, 2014, 10:19:19 AM
The real problem was I had never learned the head proportions for drawing people, most guides just tell you to draw it, but I'm a math man. I wouldn't call any of that stylized, they were all doomed to hideousness anyway because my entire foundation was wrong. I still haven't found any proportions for chin and jawline, guides want to pretend like this stuff is common knowledge.

And I say it's not enough folds, it's a high definition Chibi.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: NO1SY on June 20, 2014, 10:35:21 AM
I have seen way worse attempts at character drawing (namely mine :P). There are definite chibi aspects to your characters, I don't think it's bad that they are there, but from what you say it wasn't your original intention?

There are absolutely tons of places to learn this kinda thing if you truly want to learn and change the way your characters look if you are unhappy with them. Youtube for one. And I got Mark Crilley's intsructional book 2 years ago for my birthday and that's pretty good. Even here on MR! I don't think many artists look at it from a mathematical perspective though...
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on June 20, 2014, 09:00:40 PM
I do have mark crilley's book and thankfully he goes in depth with measuring each part of the body in relation to the head. I also have Shojo Fashion Manga Art Studio by Irene Flores. It's nice they both have information the other's missing. Most of Mark Crilley's guides don't really show off much to his foundation. It's kind of like "Step one: Draw and Circle" "Step 2: Draw the face, hair, shading and highlights." One book my friend let me borrow showed me the proportions for every single part of the face (even the neck) except the hairline. I have to fill in those blanks for all of his guides.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on June 20, 2014, 09:14:03 PM
I always suggest avoiding mark crilley. for one, none of his published work shows that he even follows his own advice. and another, his success as a teacher rides to much on the fact he has a japanese family, and he got something published (similar to manga university).

but generally, look at the proportions in just general anatomy. it doesn't have to be perfectly to a real body, but it has to look close enough and consistent enough. most anime and manga don't make it exactly to a human, and if they did, it wouldn't look like anime or manga style.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: narutogod123 on June 20, 2014, 10:53:09 PM
If you would like a book with learning to draw the human body you can buy a book (or download it google is your friend) called Figure Drawing: Design and Invention by Michael Hampton it goes in depth with seeing/feeling the movement of your subject or "Gesture" is the art term.

It is easier to see lines bringing going together and making "Forms". This book helped me the most for sketching out the body much quicker.

Even if you want to do Chibi Style I would just go to the basics of drawing the human body than and do studies with pictures i would suggest going here:  http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/ For different poses you can just for them to be naked or clothed

and here: http://www.posemaniacs.com/ for muscles studies

and for references you can sign up for this website it is free http://www.corbisimages.com/?cid=welcome:US

Hope it helps keep up the good work :)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: NO1SY on June 21, 2014, 05:29:29 AM
I always suggest avoiding mark crilley. for one, none of his published work shows that he even follows his own advice. and another, his success as a teacher rides to much on the fact he has a japanese family, and he got something published (similar to manga university).

I did wonder why his comic books looked nothing like his tutorials :P I dunno, I like his style, but I can see why people would struggle learning anatomy from him as nowhere does he actually show actual human anatomy in great detail - as Kekashi said, most of his tutorials are in relation to the head.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on June 21, 2014, 05:51:30 AM
He really is overrated, and a little smug. he even goes far to making a book called mastering manga. bold words. i took a look, but really just hitting the basics of any comic making.


@Kesashi. i don't 100% buy that it was a foundation issue. i'm sure you recognized that different styles require different foundations. and you've admitted in the past (to me) that you had chibi influences in your style and really wanted to use this young, look.

so just look at your work, and see what needs to change. or look at another work and compare it to yours. a work that accomplishes where you are having difficulty.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: NO1SY on June 21, 2014, 06:02:29 AM
^^ good advice :)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on June 25, 2014, 01:02:47 PM
He really is overrated, and a little smug. he even goes far to making a book called mastering manga. bold words. i took a look, but really just hitting the basics of any comic making.


@Kesashi. i don't 100% buy that it was a foundation issue. i'm sure you recognized that different styles require different foundations. and you've admitted in the past (to me) that you had chibi influences in your style and really wanted to use this young, look.

so just look at your work, and see what needs to change. or look at another work and compare it to yours. a work that accomplishes where you are having difficulty.

What was the primary fault of my work? Anatomy; from the beginning that was the priority to fix. Except I couldn't do it because I didn't know the proportions. I've had influence of Moe, but I never really liked chibi. I studied moe because I didn't know a better way to draw young/cute characters.


Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on June 25, 2014, 01:06:49 PM
Google Sketchup weapon design
Spoiler
(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/10487291_708353885892347_769879214243630343_n.jpg?oh=f822a88c4219fcacffbe38d4837b2f6c&oe=5422D789)
Spoiler
(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/10473771_708353902559012_3950040676239856876_n.jpg)
Spoiler
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/10428709_708353909225678_3884825450515892791_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 07, 2014, 05:01:08 AM
@narutogod

I started a thing with a model from that site and replaced the outfit with something based on a suit from Aion. I didn't do any hardcore measurements so i'm not stressing about it looking exactly alike right now. I'm going to touch it up and color it now.

(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Model%20Art%20(Without%20Color).jpg)

Edit: I also wasn't too into the fact that she was on her phone.. or communicator or something... Artistic License and all that. Made it look like she's gesturing to show she can't properly hear something, or someone since that is what I thought she was doing at first.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 07, 2014, 05:02:45 PM
My compliments to crayola, for being the only company to make a soft black color pencil that never shatters. Next time i'll definitely use more than 4 colors on the face.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/10494838_715151678545901_3724695041210856318_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: WhiteCrow on July 10, 2014, 04:46:54 AM
I think your artwork is pretty awesome, not to mention the fact that you can actually see the improvement as time has gone on. I thought your first attempt at realistic faces was on point, lastly, your shading is really good and your scythe designs... AWESOME.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 10, 2014, 04:58:29 AM
Like what I did there with the blood? At the bottom of the blade?  :clapping: Yeah I know it's the most hideous picture i've ever seen in my life. Drawing realism on a small scale is killer, didn't wanna waste my bigger sketchbooks though since it was just practice.

It only looks bad, because I can see exactly how it could have been made better. I am glad to be practicing with real models now because I couldn't perceive that as well in my previous works. So i'm gonna make it up to you all for posting such a hideous picture by clothing this beauty.

Edit: Thanks WhiteCrow, it's really nice being able to learn from your mistakes so I try not to dwell on mistakes unless i'm doing something professional (the only pro drawing i've done would be my book cover) mistakes can make great teachers.

I'm sorry loren that I haven't shown you any practice with shading with a 0.5mm mechanical pencil. I have a lot of practice backed up and I should really be practicing perspective but... coloring is more fun.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 12, 2014, 01:20:04 AM
Bloody good day everyone, mighty hard to crack a joke about your own dog dying, but tomorrow she will be put to sleep. So, i've decided to take on another project of immortilization, you could say. This will be the most mathematically accurate and the largest picture I've ever drawn. Problem is this will be made on a 18 by 24 inch (45.7 x 61 cm) sketchbook, so I wont be able to scan it. I will take a picture with a camera; sorry you might not be able to see it at best quality.

Spoiler
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Duchess%20measurements.jpg)

Neighbors nearly abandoned her, we took her in, not knowing that along with obesity, she had a skin infection stemming from an ear infection and possibly benign breast cancer. Treatment remains too expensive and age is taking its toll.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 22, 2014, 05:49:36 AM
Okay, new concept of Esashi, done completely in 0.5 mm mechanical pencil... except the sheath was done in number 2.

New Esashi
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/q81/s720x720/10525590_722803544447381_1962335034420818606_n.jpg)
I see next time I will have to check the position of the feet to make sure it looks like her body is opposing gravity.

2013 Esashi
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/s720x720/1016326_545247458869658_1702166713_n.jpg)
As Loren would say, this is the difference between personal preferences and consistancy.

...And also the difference between math and eyeballing
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on July 22, 2014, 08:08:16 AM
when u draw those short lines near her waist? Do you randomly put them in? you see, those lines is what separates the legs from the abdomen. and they look pretty close to where their suppose to be, but the way they are drawn. rather than curving with the body, they appear straight. as if they were tattoos.

Her arm, it seems a little too thin while at the same time trying to show off specific muscular features.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/94/73/72/947372b3ac2731037d9e63347cd38c20.jpg

^^here's an image of a nude couple posing. the main feature are the arms.

I meant to say to use .05mm. Still....i'm not seeing a strong change. the idea to use lead thats thinner is so that you won't make the lines as thick.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: FreezingCicada on July 22, 2014, 08:47:28 AM
^
I dont think the arm is to thin. I think its suppose to show off the triceps, just that it looks like he added defined line for biceps instead.
I think its mostly lines that separate the abs from the oblique muscles.

You could pretty thin lines even with 0.5 mechanical pencils. The key is to do it lightly and confidently.
It also helps to have a moderate spacing on the paper.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 22, 2014, 05:25:06 PM
And I just noticed the hand is backwards... you think you'd be past these mistakes by now

I do draw the lines to represent the legs and I just based them off the position of the belly button in that picture. Not an extreme level of thought went in I admit.

If it's just a line width issue I could easily just fix that in Anime Studio or with a larger sketchbook.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on July 22, 2014, 05:35:23 PM
And I just noticed the hand is backwards... you think you'd be past these mistakes by now

I do draw the lines to represent the legs and I just based them off the position of the belly button in that picture. Not an extreme level of thought went in I admit.

If it's just a line width issue I could easily just fix that in Anime Studio or with a larger sketchbook.

you're missing the point. try drawing thinner. bigger paper wont change anything, neither will drawing digitally. the change is how you draw.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: legomaestro on July 22, 2014, 10:17:59 PM
The Esashi pencil one is pretty cool. Mechanical pencils are fun right? I wish I could get other leads. Liked the crayola pencil one before those too. Nice indication of light. Well it seems you know where you have to improve so just keep on working that up.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 23, 2014, 12:46:19 AM
And I just noticed the hand is backwards... you think you'd be past these mistakes by now

I do draw the lines to represent the legs and I just based them off the position of the belly button in that picture. Not an extreme level of thought went in I admit.

If it's just a line width issue I could easily just fix that in Anime Studio or with a larger sketchbook.

you're missing the point. try drawing thinner. bigger paper wont change anything, neither will drawing digitally. the change is how you draw.

Madness, but as always I'll try it.

And thank you Lego, I'd say Crayola is worth the cost, never know what kind of problems you'll have with cheaper brands till it's too late.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 24, 2014, 09:41:25 PM
@Freezing Cola, i never noticed how uncofident my strokes were until i tried to draw small lines.

It did force me to draw a lot slower, that's for certain. Usually pictures that take me 5 hours to draw have color... keeping the lines less than 0.6mm wide I can't use additional strokes to cover up mistakes.

Esashi
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Esashi_0004.jpg)

I'm not exaggerating about the 5 hour thing...
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: legomaestro on July 24, 2014, 09:52:17 PM
No pain no gain... Or something like that. Nice one!
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 30, 2014, 12:13:51 AM
I'd been meaning to draw Esashi in some japanese clothes and ended up with this.

Spoiler
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10509710_727089754018760_9159669966310463020_n.jpg)
Remember when drawing or wearing Kimonos the overlap over the breasts is left over right.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 31, 2014, 12:15:53 AM
I actually planned to use that picture to practice a new technique I learned in anime studio. I say "new" except I've known about it I just assumed it would only be possible with photoshop or manga studio or something. Anime studio happens to be the best medium I know of for drawing with a mouse rather than a drawing pad so I'd rather use it if I can, just for the fact that it's insanely easy to edit points as opposed to strokes.

That's why it's not my best work with color pencil if that was up for questioning, I only colored it to guide myself.

Spoiler
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Dark%20Lineage%20First%20Render.png)

(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Rendercomparison.jpg)

(I do suggest photoshop when it comes to coloring/shading)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: legomaestro on August 05, 2014, 11:56:25 AM
Nice, that could prove to be useful later. I'm still stuck with GIMP but I'll get Photoshop again eventually. Are you going to finish this drawing digitally?
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 20, 2014, 09:59:43 PM
Lol, sorry lego, forgot my reply didn't post because while I was on a different computer the timer on my login ran out while typing.

I noticed I never posted my arsenol of sketchbooks. It reminds me exactly how many pictures i've drawn...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10153788_677222299005506_4888175589474978771_n.jpg)

This is only as many as I could find. There's also those guide books I use, one was borrowed from a friend. Mark Crilley's, Shojo Fashion: Manga Art School, and Color Pencil Step by Step.

(I also use a pdf of Making Comics by Scott McCloud and a pdf of a perspective guide book).
But I literally do just go to the store and buy sketchbooks for no reason.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: WhiteCrow on August 20, 2014, 10:21:49 PM
Wait... are those reference books or actual books that you've drawn in?

If it's the latter... holy crap that's quite an amount of books!
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 23, 2014, 12:07:30 PM
Wait... are those reference books or actual books that you've drawn in?

If it's the latter... holy crap that's quite an amount of books!

Both  ;D Sketchbooks and 'how-to's.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 23, 2014, 12:23:22 PM
(I live in Texas), algebra teacher is still in turkey and he hasn't sent the sub any lesson plans so I end up with this.

(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Daniela_0001.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: legomaestro on August 23, 2014, 05:13:18 PM
The sub?

In any case nice piece there. She summons a skeletal hand huh. Always found that power cool. Nce character design and shading
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 24, 2014, 01:28:18 AM
The sub?

In any case nice piece there. She summons a skeletal hand huh. Always found that power cool. Nce character design and shading

Yeah, substitute teacher just tells us to do whatever without being obnoxious. It's one of the oldest and one of my favorite character designs that I've made. Late 2011 design was that she had the power to control a dragon, but not strong enough to control its entire body, so she just controls the bones.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on August 24, 2014, 01:41:33 AM

Madness, but as always I'll try it.

And thank you Lego, I'd say Crayola is worth the cost, never know what kind of problems you'll have with cheaper brands till it's too late.
i'm not seeing it....i still see the same line depth, the same shading. the same everything.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: DBNext on August 24, 2014, 04:10:03 AM
I think the skeleton hand is facing the wrong way. Thumb should be on the other side.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: NO1SY on August 24, 2014, 04:20:06 AM
I really like the colour shading on the bones :)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 24, 2014, 07:43:05 PM
I think the skeleton hand is facing the wrong way. Thumb should be on the other side.

You are absolutely correct.

I got a feeling in the near future psychology is going to discover a mental disorder affecting artists like me, who are completely unconscious of the which way ahand faces in the process of drawing it.


Madness, but as always I'll try it.

And thank you Lego, I'd say Crayola is worth the cost, never know what kind of problems you'll have with cheaper brands till it's too late.
i'm not seeing it....i still see the same line depth, the same shading. the same everything.

This picture was drawn in less than 5 hours, not applying the technique of thin lines. However, I did try the technique right after you suggested it. Looking at that hand there are much bigger problems in that picture...

@Freezing Cola, i never noticed how uncofident my strokes were until i tried to draw small lines.

It did force me to draw a lot slower, that's for certain. Usually pictures that take me 5 hours to draw have color... keeping the lines less than 0.6mm wide I can't use additional strokes to cover up mistakes.

Esashi
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Esashi_0004.jpg)

I'm not exaggerating about the 5 hour thing...

At least that one has the fingers in the right places.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 28, 2014, 10:43:48 PM
Doing some more practice and experimentation with the lovely Esashi. Needed to deal with some personal uncertainties before I started working on any projects.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t31.0-8/s960x960/10553931_741680909226311_1718644034915497850_o.jpg)

It's a work in progress obviously and I did most of it during school.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: WhiteCrow on August 28, 2014, 10:55:20 PM
I think the concept behind the character is definitely cool and I can see the potential in it. As for the picture itself, I believe her legs look a little too long. That's good shading on the sword and hair with what I would presume were crayons (lol). Might I suggest maybe having the sash (the rope portion) be wider and longer, possibly have it hanging down towards her legs.

Overall i think the picture is well done, especially for a WIP.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: legomaestro on August 29, 2014, 03:57:39 AM
It is looking good, but I feel the robe is a bit on the short side, or maybe her legs are a bit long.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 30, 2014, 05:12:20 PM
Yeah the kimono is just short. A few inches shorter than a real-life short-kimono, but regardless this picture is not communicating properly so i will start over.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on August 30, 2014, 05:21:28 PM
yeah, it doesn't look natural. did you draw the character's body first before drawing the kimono?
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 30, 2014, 08:56:04 PM
It's nice, but the entire picture is damaged. For starters I drew it at school so though I may have had a steady hand I did not have a steady desk. As always I do draw the body before I draw the clothes, since I got substantial suggestions to fix my knowledge of human anatomy, and that is also a reason why it's not a good picture. I didn't realize how un-flattering a kimono was when I drew the body, so I gave her a subtle pose.

I planned to give her a short kimono in the first place, but it still wasn't going to show up, so I shortened the kimono. Halfway through drawing that I finally became conscious of how hideous mark crilley's proportions were. Without having redraw the entire picture, I conformed the majority of her to what my eyes saw fit which compromised the pose.

On top of all that the sword is too wide, the sash is too thin, and the kimono is too tight.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on August 30, 2014, 10:17:40 PM
get the anatomy first before drawing the kimono. if you want the clothes to compliment the body.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 01, 2014, 05:16:33 PM
Might as well update.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/s960x960/10603845_743352682392467_8048003268130276323_o.jpg)

Don't worry I already tried: It's too late to undo any currently colored mistakes. All I can do is color over them.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Robin Ryuu on September 01, 2014, 05:19:48 PM
I love her eyes.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Vio on September 01, 2014, 05:20:20 PM
Looks great! Slow but steady. ^^
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: legomaestro on September 01, 2014, 05:22:19 PM
Nice one there.

Colouring by pencils seems so scary to do.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 01, 2014, 06:17:50 PM
Color pencil's not that bad, now paint, that's a medium for madmen. It's just there's a limit to how much color pencil you can erase without destroying the paper.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 02, 2014, 07:01:53 PM
Yeah, so might not finish this one, probably best I save my color pencils for something with more ambitious hair-shading.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/q81/s960x960/10688278_743857625675306_5211310315828848583_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: legomaestro on September 04, 2014, 06:31:35 PM
That turned out pretty great. You sure know how to use dem colour pencils. Props.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 07, 2014, 07:17:54 PM
That turned out pretty great. You sure know how to use dem colour pencils. Props.

It's funny you mention that:

I started a scaled portrait of a relative in color pencil. Since i'm doing it the 18 x 24 in. sketchbook i won't beable to just scan it. I decided since I'd have to take a picture of it with a camera i might as well take the opportunity to record the process of drawing it. I'd been meaning to record myself drawing for a while now.

Also: this is actually part 2 of the recordings since i didn't know the camera had a function to help it focus on the picture, so I uploaded this one first.

Image
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Video%20scrsht.png)

Video
http://youtu.be/0kilVllyZZc
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on September 07, 2014, 10:01:08 PM
You have a tendency to give your characters "stuffed cheeks"
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 07, 2014, 10:12:44 PM
You have a tendency to give your characters "stuffed cheeks"

Yeah, with the pictures of Esashi I had been trying to exaggerate some ethnic features she'd have besides heavy eyelids.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on September 07, 2014, 10:21:01 PM
perhaps look at other asian pictures before stereotyping.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 07, 2014, 10:49:25 PM
perhaps look at other asian pictures before stereotyping.

No, I actually stared numerous eastern females, specifically Japanese, in the face for several hours, alongside non-scholarly research, to draw that last picture. Their features really aren't as diverse as us Americans, who'd have thought. Since I intended to have multiple cultures in my own manga i have study to ethnic features.

To give an idea this is one graphic guide i use to help me develop ethnic identity in my characters' pictures
Based on the "average" facial features
(http://d3u5xmnnxiuz0w.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/averageface-954x863.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on September 08, 2014, 02:48:47 AM
Ok...here's the thing....when you're drawing ethnicities...very rarely are you going to be concentrating on specific details.  The more detailed you are, the more the specific details of each race are needed.

http://www.kanpai-japan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/japanese-woman-23-670x445.jpg

http://inserbia.info/today/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Japanese_woman_with_eyeglasses.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/01/article-2271585-17476AB7000005DC-128_634x627.jpg

http://odontologiamx.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/100311_1420_lamodajapon6.jpg?w=584

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/01/article-2271585-17475B9C000005DC-581_634x513.jpg

http://www.virtuallifestyle.net/images/image.php/91_1_20100620170300.jpg?width=695&height=510&image=/images/page_images/super/91_1_20100620170300.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/gaming_bum/asian/korean/hyegyo.jpg

Here are some images to help better grasp what faces in general look like. The problem is this is an issue with more than just your regular characters, you have a tendency to "bulge" out their cheeks. Giving them that "child" look. But it also looks unnatural.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 08, 2014, 05:47:26 PM
I am starting to see it and that is entirely unintentional. Just a habit from mimicking the anime style, i think.  I will try to attribute that to my current picture.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lumaria on September 08, 2014, 06:03:02 PM
The problem is that the cheecks are usually more "lifted".
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 15, 2014, 12:49:10 AM
Oy anatomy.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10649907_372458982904145_4346715840188736743_n.jpg?oh=7464588b2be497416d57ddd7e5c95378&oe=5489E624&__gda__=1418453916_69e6849a72e7e47634adba8315a285a5)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 18, 2014, 09:54:53 PM
So what I learned in school today...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/1618401_373578969458813_2061942291406578012_n.jpg?oh=d7e7a857af6e22a36f16f3ea133405fe&oe=54CE6852&__gda__=1418528645_1ad6d4662d0fa08cde32f8836d443ada)

Didn't have skin color pencils with me so i just shaded with graphite.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: legomaestro on September 19, 2014, 11:19:08 AM
Whoa how did you do the katanaka? Nice!

Also Kesashi, I was wondering what colour pencils you use? Wanted to really try them out.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/06/24/hunter-x-hunter-animator-hyped-for-chimera-ant-finale

This totally inspired me to try my hand out at them ...
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: CeruleanSpirit on September 19, 2014, 08:45:21 PM
The last piece with the girl's portrait is your best work so far. And yes, she look japanese to me. Some people have kind of halfway complained about stuffed cheek, but I am not picky at all at this point. Amazing job on the hairs, good realism on the face.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 20, 2014, 10:57:19 PM
Whoa how did you do the katanaka? Nice!

Also Kesashi, I was wondering what colour pencils you use? Wanted to really try them out.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/06/24/hunter-x-hunter-animator-hyped-for-chimera-ant-finale

This totally inspired me to try my hand out at them ...


Thanks  :thumbsup: I did the kanji in gel pen. I just use crayola, since they're very good quality and very cheap. Anything cheaper I've noticed shatters when sharpening and has a pretty bad hue. Cra Z art  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 22, 2014, 10:52:40 PM
That beautiful hand... It's all going into anime studio so it's not a problem.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10615397_753823988012003_5342168158525691841_n.jpg?oh=4b5abe8ac5dc0001460d5610121026b6&oe=54CFBAA2&__gda__=1418945835_24dcda39dd915b1ab4199630da84f604)

I'm making a set of promotional comics for Sentieria. I'm interested in seeing the boundaries of Manga action for myself.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on September 25, 2014, 07:58:12 PM
Don't worry guys, it's time to work on some different cultures. Hard to find examples of Russian anime characters, so I'll just wait till Anime Studio so I can do some experimenting. Now, Introducing Svetlana. Interesting feature: google translate will convert the alphabet if you type a name in English.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10690301_755244011203334_2071217199674274742_n.jpg?oh=87094d97b792b82b6511e3851a1a034e&oe=54B9BED3&__gda__=1418253453_4cbf19b2a0ca7ea0af07640b31f992a8)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: bossx5 on September 26, 2014, 05:30:26 PM
I know this is weird but if you had the time could you show me how to draw a katana
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on October 27, 2014, 01:07:28 AM
Life is good.

I don't know if you're still interested in a guide to drawing katanas, bossx5, but I will tell you when it comes to drawing something, it's more important to study the object than the techniques.

(This is not Esashi from Project Sentieria)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10372057_771435546250847_3824532023540623362_n.jpg?oh=bf6061bc9b8b2a3752b7fbbaac81f1b3&oe=54ACAE05&__gda__=1424145625_73db019be9fe2a1dae7200e16956df9c)

Anyway, just for fun I got myself interested in drawing a web-comic series based on a game I waste my time playing, right now I'm just trying to put the characters on paper.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Vio on October 27, 2014, 01:21:05 AM
Looks lovely and an interesting comparison~ :clapping: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on December 14, 2014, 04:13:46 PM
Colored Pencils are forever

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10850294_795848860476182_1913709017345138967_n.jpg?oh=065503748336629ccbaebfb724d04ae8&oe=54FB0302&__gda__=1426791396_d631a3795ebde6064625009b822b765e)

Yeah I just love crystals and diamonds for whatever reason, but I recently figured out how to illustrate them properly so I wanted to practice it before I did it on my big sketchbook.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: MahluaandMilk on December 14, 2014, 10:33:37 PM
Between this recent sketch and the others I've admittedly only skimmed through, I see a lot of progress with the use of your coloured pencils. Job well done on the detail work and blending on the eye!
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on December 17, 2014, 12:41:42 PM
Thank you, that means a lot to me. I spend a lot of time just watching other artists draw on youtube.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on December 28, 2014, 07:30:33 PM
Still doing concept art of Esashi, feel like I'm getting close to a design I can stick with.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10897113_804324442961957_8877863299791379321_n.jpg?oh=249173c876483b15700c25f4f2cc43a7&oe=5539D4CB&__gda__=1429119091_d26a27570c81ddfeebf611343b5b5356)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Echo_River on December 30, 2014, 01:22:33 PM
Nice design and colouring Kesashi!
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on December 30, 2014, 09:21:01 PM
Thanks, I was stepping out of my comfort zone trying to draw an Anime styled picture without outlines but the size of the picture altogether really killed me. (She's only 9 inches tall in that picture)

It's that time of the year when I draw maps again. Interesting to see just how my perception of the world has changed over the years.

2012
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/971785_550988074962263_1500908262_n.jpg?oh=f9d8d4a42d780d347f15a944f884ccf2&oe=552A02D3&__gda__=1430769745_14712e417d1a0e516bc17b69fedc5dda)
This was actually designed for the game version of Sentieria

2013
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/q85/s720x720/10896865_805395459521522_8482823318272781635_n.jpg?oh=ab97648c5a4639c8f46c4a7a618b5425&oe=552F4620&__gda__=1429676342_600f84c0a7f38136523f495a9bf3777d)
All I really did here was take Loren's advice that the last one was too colorful and I had deleted a lot of story arcs

2014
(https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10700_805395429521525_8637746427873226270_n.jpg?oh=e5c6d8568cdb6f03e6e2a57dea046adb&oe=5531429D)
Finally I decided the entire story would be just fine on one continent.

Above Nypheria it says Frozen Land
Above Kora it says Kora
Above Dark Continent it says Dark Land
Above Offluriki it says Silent kingdom
Above Salutia it says prison.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on January 06, 2015, 09:55:21 PM
Heartbreak, in every sense of the word.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10343011_811204295607305_8039730231444888506_n.jpg?oh=36af2932593c1402449799c88d29fb9e&oe=55282A0B&__gda__=1428415667_46d91f3f61167cc7f17b612b59d93a5e)

Certainly could have done more with the liquid to give the impression of the flat faces but.... no there's not actually any excuse not to have done it, but I'm moving on to other pictures now.

this is the reference image
(http://images.diamondenvy.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/3/13046_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Nekonomicon on January 07, 2015, 02:45:20 PM
Honestly, I prefer yours. The colours are brighter
Awesome work!
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on January 18, 2015, 12:00:37 AM
I do love gemstones

So I was bored... and had a ruler:

(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10933846_816673645060370_2045211216603308537_n.jpg?oh=ab4046b4d7ef27ccdf4193f8a32cc746&oe=555E47C6)

Didn't know the date so I was just like whatever
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: MK on January 18, 2015, 04:35:39 AM
The right eye (left on paper) looks a little crooked.  I took my hand an hid that part and it looked perfect.  I tried hiding the other eye but it still looked crooked.  But your pencil shading looks amazing as always...
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on January 19, 2015, 10:31:52 AM
The right eye (left on paper) looks a little crooked.  I took my hand an hid that part and it looked perfect.  I tried hiding the other eye but it still looked crooked.  But your pencil shading looks amazing as always...

Thank you  :D, I didn't notice that about the eyes before, but I'm just hopeless with free-hand symmetry, I'll have to take more measurements on the eyes next time.

Just more practicing faces here, I don't really know any proportions for seeing the face at different angles, I know there are some, but I don't remember them.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10384353_817302638330804_4155007273641705460_n.jpg?oh=2f9fba5bcab42cd35cc4966cb94fa470&oe=553208ED&__gda__=1432231645_a4020bbbe2c4126ea6d94847c81c9d19)

Trying to resist the urge to mix mediums between colored pencil and graphite.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: MK on January 20, 2015, 12:13:16 AM
The ear looks a little too low and too small.  In manga proportions the ear is lined up with the top of the eye and is a little bigger...  Real life proportions the ear goes from the eyebrow down to the bottom of the nose (in manga the eyes are enlarged so it is different)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: April.Showers on January 20, 2015, 09:44:25 AM
Usually the eye closer to us (the one seen in full) is farther away from the nose, and the one on the other side would be a bit more compact width wise. Also the ear, but that was previously mentioned, other than those two things it's a really good drawing.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on April 12, 2015, 03:00:34 AM
I noticed my images have been going away, I guess facebook's changing the urls, and I don't feel like re-posting them.

It's been a while and it's time for more pictures.

This one was for my school's art show, whenever that'll be.

(https://igcdn-photos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/11024094_1565154347098676_157112826_n.jpg)

This is just concept art for a new manga idea I plan to work on

Spoiler
(https://scontent-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10407829_841475595913508_5698632613556853099_n.jpg?oh=06abe27137c50d9de66b60d5981b629e&oe=559C7925)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on April 28, 2015, 09:03:57 PM
Got a new computer, but I can't use my scanner until I feel like connecting it to my computer, but instagram will suffice. Testing out anime in colored pencil again, probably wasn't wise to use white clothes to practice not using outlines.

Spoiler
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11138488_871836182877449_6268435251145390655_n.jpg?oh=a6ca1e09ed298bef672005abd5818614&oe=55E3A331&__gda__=1440472457_c88256d3c563548c91958d99ac715a05)

(https://scontent-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11010289_871833419544392_4928200916474215920_n.jpg?oh=ee1f3245ec00c0686ff664b10499fc66&oe=55D915AB)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on May 04, 2015, 12:43:38 AM
I've updated my first post (http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,8240.msg148587.html#msg148587). Now most of my images are restored in you'd like to see them I'll try to restore more later.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: legomaestro on May 04, 2015, 01:12:58 AM
I really like the look coloured pencils can achieve, especially after seeing the Hunter x Hunter concept art they posted one. That gallery exhibition one looks great, and I like the latest character.

Yeah fb tends to break off image links like that.

Anyways good stuff
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on May 05, 2015, 12:19:06 AM
I really like the look coloured pencils can achieve, especially after seeing the Hunter x Hunter concept art they posted one. That gallery exhibition one looks great, and I like the latest character.

Yeah fb tends to break off image links like that.

Anyways good stuff

Especially from a distance, I love colored pencils, they just feel so unexpectedly lifelike every time I work with them.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 22, 2015, 01:34:10 AM
I'm really liking the effects I can get with Anime studio. It's very colorful and appealing, a lot better than my older works with Anime Studio.

(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Lunatic%20Image.png)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: MK on July 23, 2015, 03:25:14 AM
Wow, I looked through your old art and I have to say that you have improved quite a bit since you started.  Pretty inspiring stuff there :D
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 15, 2015, 01:36:39 AM
More Anime Studio. Just a sneak peak really of another story I've written as I ready it for its manga adaptation. Since I'm already satisfied with the story I'll post this one once I'm done illustrating it. Here I've hastily drawn one of the main characters.

(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11836891_926728800721520_3434285370578528221_n.jpg?oh=35830622a23b34dceb0a445b559ee285&oe=5639A69F)

Spoiler
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11885064_926731624054571_7237751590820268295_n.jpg?oh=7a2bbf1217532ee70579418ad7b1eb7c&oe=567535A7)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Boosted Nomena :) on August 15, 2015, 11:11:17 AM
nice work ... though I think I prefer the coloured pencil look  ;D
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: suupertramp on August 15, 2015, 11:14:43 AM
switching to digital can be hard to color as good as you can traditionally at first. just as it is hard at first to use a tablet.

@kesashi it looks like you are using gradient-fills for some parts. that can make those areas have a lack of depth if you aren't careful with the settings. like around the knees which have a shadow on the kneecaps as well, not just to the side of the leg all the way down.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 15, 2015, 01:51:01 PM
Oh yes, my studio when it comes to drawing on digital work you could say is pretty nontraditional of digital drawing studios. With this program I work with vectors and points. I like it because it means I don't need a tablet and I can draw with a mouse and it makes things infinitely maluable. Of course it needs to be easily edited because Anime Studio is actually an animation software. I've been working with anime studio pretty much as long as I've been drawing, but it just has its own set of strengths and weaknesses. Colored pencil can take hours or days as opposed to anime studio which can take about 30 minutes. With the difference of effort I'm actually glad that the colored pencil works do look better.

I actually do use the automated shader anime studio has, but I decrease the offset and increase the range so it gives it that gradient effect instead of just solid colors. I can see it definitely makes their bodies look pretty flat when I let it work its own. On top of that I draw on some shaded regions using a similar transparent gray tone.

Spoiler
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/Anime%20Studio.png)

Here's some older work with anime studio showing how I would transfer traditional lineart into digital work. I used to use the shader as my sole source of shading, and it's incredibly difficult to work with because its so mathematical.

2012 Lineart
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/v/t1.0-9/222710_164985476895860_8096602_n.jpg?oh=0d327053b8da01b0c3ad3660f09e6824&oe=563B0639)
2012 Anime Studio
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/229310_167276200000121_1236211_n.jpg?oh=6e50a2560ee3441d6c5167372431be4a&oe=563CCBD4)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Boosted Nomena :) on August 16, 2015, 04:51:08 AM
how long does it take you to go from a traditional lineart to the anime studio product?

I think it would be much more convenient and time saving to work with a tablet...isn't it too much work to use the mouse?
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on November 09, 2015, 10:26:13 PM
The transfer can be very time consuming if I allow it to be. It could take hours in most situations. The problem is Anime Studio wasn't designed to be used with a tablet. Anime studio uses too much math in drawing to utilize it properly, something like photoshop or manga studio would be optimal in that respect. Anime studio, however, was designed for animation, so artwork needs to be infinitely malleable.

When it comes to animation, Anime Studio is bae.

Incidently, I haven't been drawing much lately, that is, most of my time is spent storyboarding now.

Spoiler
(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/IMG_0005.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on June 17, 2016, 10:23:57 PM
Looks like I'm back again. Working on a new rendition of Sentieria. Here's some more artwork of my favorite girl.

(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/IMG_0028.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on June 17, 2016, 10:24:10 PM
Looks like I'm back again. Working on a new rendition of Sentieria. Here's some more artwork of my favorite girl.

(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/IMG_0028.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: MahluaandMilk on June 17, 2016, 10:35:50 PM
Hmmm...something about her arms strikes me as just a little off, but I love the shading you have going on with her hair. (Sorry, I haven't posted on your thread before. I really admire your colored pencil work, btw!)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on June 18, 2016, 02:21:31 AM
Looks like a double post, it was a bit laggy when I tried to post it, may be why.

Yes this last picture is touching on every skill I don't have. I'm more comfortable with pencils and this picture is all ink using a gel pen that rarely seems to do what I want it to. On top of that my last ruler broke so I wasn't able to take any measurements. The best I could do was make her approximately 6 heads tall.

Her arm is also in perspective which would change how long it appears, and perspective is truly a weakness of mine. Any of those weaknesses may be messing up the arms for you. Also I've noticed her legs aren't quite in a comfortable position to compliment her upper body's movements.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: MahluaandMilk on June 18, 2016, 02:35:54 AM
Another thing could just be that the sword is too long for the pose you were trying to pull off? :noidea:

For someone doing something to expand on weaknesses, though, I think it turned out pretty well. This is definitely a good learning experience, I think, to see what worked here and what you don't like about it as the artist.

Art is one big fustercluck of trial and error, after all.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on June 18, 2016, 01:10:56 PM
Here's some new and unfinished colored pencil work.

(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/IMG%203.jpg)

(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/IMG%202.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: MahluaandMilk on June 18, 2016, 01:18:27 PM
(Sighs) I love how you're able to get such bold colors. Sadly, I have to be careful with my colored pencils because I only have one set at the moment and I'm already running low on a lot of the skin tones.

Another wonderful thing is the smoothness of it. You get the colors to blend really well.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on June 19, 2016, 01:04:41 AM
I understand completely. I buy a large pack of colored pencils almost monthly. All those ugly greens and white pencils I never use pile up, I don't have enough pencil cases to put them all in. My black pencils are the worst, because I need them for everything, but I can't just use any black colored pencil, it has to be crayola. The prismacolor black wasn't really dark enough for me and cheaper brands always break when I sharpen them.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Killer B !!SAMA!! on June 19, 2016, 02:08:58 AM
impressive coloring there men  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: MaidenManga on June 19, 2016, 05:14:00 AM
Here's some new and unfinished colored pencil work.

(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/IMG%203.jpg)

(http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/26/20/44652026/photos/undefined/IMG%202.jpg)

Love this stuff, I'm so impatient at blending and from your early posts you've had knack for it a long with toning/lighting for the hair - a good strength of yours, you draw accurately too, traditionally.

Keep it up very good stuff. I do head neck/n' shoulders close ups too so I'll be watching your stuff as well for inspiration. Don't stop!
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: suupertramp on June 20, 2016, 03:59:50 PM
wow incredibly good shading and shinyness on the blue haired one, cant wait to see it finished :P
i think i just learnt how to make hair look good :P
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on June 17, 2017, 08:46:14 PM
I don't draw much these days. The College of Visual Arts will do that to you.

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19148977_1433291123398616_1927450605558160071_n.jpg?oh=efb0b4dc7db0335f293487a0660df10a&oe=59DA5DB8)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Gabryel on June 18, 2017, 12:46:05 PM
Wow, really nice pencilwork! It's been ages since I did anything with coloured pencils ... and I was never as good as that. Although I feel the violet haired beauty is bending her neck very unnaturally... maybe it looks better when it's finished.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: MahluaandMilk on June 21, 2017, 04:58:58 PM
Little thin on the limbs in that latest sketch, but I 110% feel you on having like no time to draw. It's excruciating.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on January 04, 2018, 12:58:30 AM
And now drawing is practically what I do for a living, being in the college of visual arts and all the indie projects I work on.

I'm going to post some of the stylized concept art I've been working on for the game. I'm also taking these characters and modeling them in 3D, and then animating them. Then it's just seeing what style of shader works best for them in UE4.

Spoiler
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26169730_1619094878151572_1360038078078763818_n.jpg?oh=3ba5827e2ccce4cb2fdc7823dde78a3f&oe=5AF6577B)

Spoiler
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/292204052148912137/374405110983426050/Katherine_and_Pallette.png)

Spoiler
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/292204052148912137/392198216394997760/2017-12-18.png)

Spoiler
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/292204052148912137/397904097912553482/KathyInGame.png)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: devola on January 04, 2018, 01:23:43 AM
That's really cool that you're gonna be modelling, rigging and animating all these characters! Can't wait to see them in action.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: MahluaandMilk on January 04, 2018, 01:53:23 AM
Yeah, I thought that was you! I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with your ideas, too. They all seemed really fun from what I read a long while back. Haven't touched that place in ages, though, so I'm sure you've got a few surprises in store.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on January 12, 2018, 01:28:25 AM
More colored pencil stuff.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/292204052148912137/401250928663199754/20180110_192300.jpg?width=266&height=472)

working on a portrait of a friend.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: KeanFox on January 12, 2018, 10:41:29 AM
Nice traditional drawing :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: legomaestro on January 14, 2018, 04:14:28 PM
The shading looks so soft. I almost miss doing portraiture. Nice work Kesashi, and welcome back from your haitus? Haha
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on February 04, 2018, 01:02:09 AM
Finished.

(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/4b/0e/73/4b0e737884d7ae7c24d96e71e544581e.jpg)

Also more vector art.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/298646084853694464/409304205040549900/Oblivia.png?width=789&height=677)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on February 05, 2018, 02:01:56 PM
I updated the first post and fixed the links to my older works.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on February 09, 2018, 09:45:24 PM
Tiny Update

(Little video showing katherine looping an animation)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFRUw-fDy88
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Echo_River on February 10, 2018, 12:05:21 PM
That animation looks smooth O:

On your pencil coloured drawing I like how you did the shine on the hair. ^^ Neat work. Keep it up!
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on February 10, 2018, 03:06:00 PM
That animation looks smooth O:

On your pencil coloured drawing I like how you did the shine on the hair. ^^ Neat work. Keep it up!

I made a bunch more animations after that. That was a very successful test. I tried making a walking animation a long time ago and it was so bad it made me give up for weeks.

My mistake was animating it frame by frame, but in that idle animation I only made 3 key frames, then I just spread them out, so the 3D software does most of the animating work for me.

Habits from 2D animation I just had to get past  :hmm:

I know the shining on the hair my not be the most representational choice, but it's so fun to do. Just stroke stroke stroke, a thousand times to capture as many hairs as possible.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on February 12, 2018, 03:49:04 PM
More vectors.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/292204052148912137/412556830913331201/Lucius_Image.png?width=451&height=676)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on February 17, 2018, 03:14:12 PM
More Vector stuff

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/412062160823386122/414513454125154318/Uriel_Image_2.png?width=451&height=676)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Echo_River on February 18, 2018, 05:51:10 PM
Pretty wings O: Nice!
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Austadophilus on February 18, 2018, 08:06:46 PM
Heavenly and peaceful <3
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on February 22, 2018, 11:18:03 PM
I'm glad ya'll liked that one. (Yes I'm from Texas)

This is concept art for a Patreon/Kickstarter support reward. Katherine's Golden Skin (Swimsuit). The swords are meant to rotate around her slowly. I'm also playing with the art style. The same shading technique, but I'm just using line more. I developed the previous art style before I could get outlines in game.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/298646084853694464/416452993504772096/Katherine_Gold_4.png?width=451&height=676)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on March 03, 2018, 05:30:17 PM
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/298646084853694464/419622142389256192/All_Characters_Image_22.png)

More characters!
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Echo_River on March 05, 2018, 05:30:26 PM
Coool (: I like the look of the purple-haired character at the front.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: The SlamJam on March 06, 2018, 10:29:24 AM
looks cool, is this for a comic?
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on April 06, 2018, 01:07:37 PM
There is a comic series I'm working on as well as a video game.

Here's some long awaited artwork of a few more characters.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411000145824579589/431858329711804418/Mother_and_Daughter.png)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Walter B on April 14, 2018, 10:54:08 AM
That is one interesting mix of characters
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: MahluaandMilk on May 11, 2018, 09:31:29 PM
Ack. The color saturation on the blues and purples hurts my eyes a little bit. It's good to have a little contrast from time to time.

Still, nice to see you're still up and working on those projects! You pour a lot of passion into all of it.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on May 20, 2018, 11:21:44 PM
Yes I noticed even unreal engine had some trouble with that picture. It gave the whole thing green tint and I can't fix it. The most powerful game engine in the world can't handle a PNG with low contrast.

But here's some more art stuff for the game.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411000145824579589/427628351885410304/Full_Deck.png)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411000145824579589/447963015959019530/All_Characters_25.png)
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: MahluaandMilk on May 21, 2018, 12:10:17 AM
That's quite a cast. I'm internally lolling at the name U.V. Ray, though. Like, is his full name Ulysses Victor Ray?
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Walter B on May 25, 2018, 05:52:07 PM
Seems like a great game!
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 05, 2018, 09:27:39 AM
His name is actually Uriah Virgil Ray. Gotta have a little meme'ry here and there.

So I kinda want to talk about the style I've been developing for Blade Regalia. I invented this style around the time I first began to get the characters in a 3D game to look like a 2D anime character, that is: cel shading. At the time I didn't know how to get the characters to have outlines. Below is a picture of what it looked like in the beginning. Even though their details are gone when rendering them this way, they still stand out from each other. So I really liked it.

Spoiler
(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18814985_1419671214760607_9078800951643718607_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=0d35011bebaac18628927c6a4874514c&oe=5BA7AF6C)

The first time I ever used this style was for a commission. (The commissioner actually asked me to put my signature in it so I had to go back and add it. The reason why this happened is because I was asked to make a piece to be printed which natually digital art is advantageous here. Since I wasn't able to draw something photorealistic in digital media, I had to try something minimalistic. That also marks the only time I've ever used my Wacom drawing pad because I had to use it to get my signature on there. 

Spoiler
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/411000145824579589/464408356350853120/Portrait_1100x1600_1.png?width=465&height=677)

When I implemented this into Blade Regalia it created some design challenges where simplistic designs were more acceptable in a detailed style, they really were disappointing in a minimalistic style. It makes you look at the individual as a whole. One of the things I personally love to work with as an artist is color. And this style really allowed me to make the character's pop with both personality and color.

Spoiler
(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22788930_1552994128094981_7532586035086423896_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=f9d5a970aebed39fe1c1704fe627ec9f&oe=5BA2D106)
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(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22853320_1553852194675841_7342326480506146890_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=07462642fa1c6f4f966a0683d4f5f90a&oe=5BEC5D2E)

Now the characters look like this below (a video of Katherine). The cel shading includes outlines, contour lines, and no longer conflicts with the background. But still I want to continue with this style. A similar style appeared in the Multiplayer Online Battle Arena: Gigantic, which I really enjoyed their stylistic choice. (Probably not the best idea to take inspiration from a market failure). I'm always looking to study other artists who work with this style. (If you know anyone please tell me).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iIKxuf9xrQ

One of the things that I'm not sure about personally is how to make the most out of outlines, gradients, glows effects etc. Where they become distracting or helpful. These two pieces sort of take their own individual approach, yet if I find them both to be successful in their own way where other pieces weren't as successful.

Spoiler
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411000145824579589/464418642348474369/Iron_Maiden.png)
Spoiler
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411000145824579589/464419360837074974/Karina.png)

It's a journey.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Coach Fro on July 05, 2018, 07:53:26 PM
Indeed it is, but nice progress nonetheless. Those swords hovering around Katherine look pretty sick!
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: legomaestro on July 06, 2018, 07:38:36 AM
Holy crap you're really working at this Kesashi! What software did you use for that video? I just really love their designs. The cel shading reminds me of Suda's games in general. Love that style. It's tricky to work with I can imagine.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Walter B on July 06, 2018, 12:54:27 PM
That girl with the mace looks dangerous!
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 07, 2018, 03:51:37 AM
It was actually done using just 3DS Max and Unreal Engine. It was recorded from within Unreal Engine.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: suupertramp on July 10, 2018, 09:07:03 AM
interesting style and animation!
I can't say its one that I would personally go for, but its really bright and simplistic so it has an appeal about it :)
the detail in the eyes contrasts the simpler clothing so it pops more :P
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 20, 2018, 05:37:28 PM
I bought a drawing tablet monitor. So I can pretend to be a traditional artist while I make digital art.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/411000145824579589/469980692038811650/first_time.jpg?width=901&height=676)

This was just me making sure it worked.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: suupertramp on July 22, 2018, 03:49:15 PM
So I can pretend to be a traditional artist while I make digital art.
thats exactly why you buy one!
glad it works, can you feel a difference to a normal tablet?
do you think it will help to improve your art?
and of course, which one did you buy?
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on July 23, 2018, 07:54:28 AM
It feels much better than a tablet. I would honestly rather draw with a mouse than a drawing pad.

I'm hoping that it will allow me to do more detailed digital work so I can work on things like backgrounds and landscapes that were extremely challenging in the past with vector art

I bought the Ugee 1560 so pressure sensitive pen with a monitor that you connect to your computer. Also works as a second screen which is nice. But it's very much not portable at all.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: suupertramp on July 23, 2018, 01:19:06 PM
Ah I see cool. Not too familiar with that particular brand, but I've seen them around, and they can get some nice youtube reviews as well. Especially in comparison to the much more expensive Wacoms.

Looking forward to brilliant background art soon haha :P
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 09, 2018, 12:33:35 PM
Old habits die hard right? No, I wanted to do some more experimentation with the vector style while I'm getting used to this machine. Not to mention I still have about 100 characters to illustrate.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411000145824579589/477152200972304387/Ji.png)

Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: OviumNoir on August 09, 2018, 02:40:58 PM
Old habits die hard right? No, I wanted to do some more experimentation with the vector style while I'm getting used to this machine. Not to mention I still have about 100 characters to illustrate.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411000145824579589/477152200972304387/Ji.png)

I always get curious over vector work, never done it myself before. Like what you've got going on ere x
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: suupertramp on August 10, 2018, 03:51:03 AM
Not to mention I still have about 100 characters to illustrate.
I've got about 300 that I want to finish lol. I have a massive backlog that I didn't know I had until I released how to actually finish my sketches :P

I have a love hate relationship with vector art, partly because I cant use it and partly because using Microsoft Word shape art is easier for me *sweats profusely*
I think you did good to get the detail where it's needed, such as the hands and the eyes, but also to use the vectors to the full with the larger gradients and blockier shapes. looks good.
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Walter B on August 10, 2018, 04:12:40 PM
Nice work. Good luck with all that work!!!
Title: Re: Kesashi's Gallery
Post by: Lord Kesashi on August 14, 2018, 09:26:13 PM
Not to mention I still have about 100 characters to illustrate.
I've got about 300 that I want to finish lol. I have a massive backlog that I didn't know I had until I released how to actually finish my sketches :P

I have a love hate relationship with vector art, partly because I cant use it and partly because using Microsoft Word shape art is easier for me *sweats profusely*
I think you did good to get the detail where it's needed, such as the hands and the eyes, but also to use the vectors to the full with the larger gradients and blockier shapes. looks good.

300 sounds like a nightmare. 150 is killing me right now.

I get lots of complaints about the quantity of female characters and I refuse to apologize for it. But that being said, I finished the design for another male now. I think the detailed contours with more gradient fills is adding a nicer illusion of depth that other pieces didn't achieve.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/413491416560566272/479040048298328065/Prince.png?width=451&height=676)