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Title: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on March 25, 2010, 05:18:45 PM
http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/397-80/1

interesting
Title: Re: Bleach Episode Discussion
Post by: Coryn on March 25, 2010, 06:06:14 PM
this makes my day.
Title: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on March 26, 2010, 12:27:20 AM
Well I thoght to make this topic just to separate Bleach Anime and Manga discussions.


http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/397-80/01




Now the one of the most unusual development what happened in Chapter 397. Can't wait for the next Bleach Manga Chapter.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on March 26, 2010, 10:46:41 AM
im just glad they brought that little secret out into the open. now my only question is what the hell is Urahara doing  :huh:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on March 26, 2010, 11:04:36 AM
He ll be back in fight late I think. and Where is Yoruichi ?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on March 26, 2010, 11:05:20 AM
probably with urahara. yet another reason i want him to show up.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on March 26, 2010, 11:16:15 PM
Since Ichigos father has come maybe Ishida's father is there too with him.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on March 27, 2010, 01:27:35 AM
who knows. would be kind of a let down if he didnt show up.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: kuro-ame-neko on March 29, 2010, 03:22:44 AM
hmmmm... has asnyone else noticed smthin goin on twith the endings of the chapter 397 of bleach
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/397/01/

and the ending of one piece chapter 579
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/579/01/
????they end with the same plot somewhat or another......anyone else other then me noticed??
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on March 29, 2010, 10:41:25 AM
considering im not in to one piece i wouldnt know
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on March 31, 2010, 07:11:45 AM
LOL.... honestly i think isshins arrival is a let down for me.... they shouldn't have brought him back.... i was intrigued by the mystery behind him being a shinigami and a strong one at that....  but with aizen and the hougyoku i feel like he's being used as a pawn to make ichigo actually want to fight.... aizen probably knew he was coming.. lol
but we will have to see how the story pans out... whether it was actually worth his arrival

ohhh....  and shank's arrival in one piece was 10 times more better than isshins arrival....  this current one piece story arc has been every fan boys wet dream.. lol
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on March 31, 2010, 11:07:59 AM
this current one piece story arc has been every fan boys wet dream.. lol

ew.... although if isshin hadnt shown up it would have been worse. cause seriously you cant just have him show up for like one episode as a shingami then not have him show up again. whether aizen counted on him to show up or not i dont really know. but do you know what i noticed though? Isshin and Aizen have the same hand guard on their swords. coincidence? i think not!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on March 31, 2010, 11:18:37 AM
before isshin interupted aizen... he was about to tell ichigo something important....  like he is half shinigami half hollow.... but we already knew that... unless what he meant was  maybe it wasn't because of the hougyoku that ichigo is the way he is
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on March 31, 2010, 12:33:29 PM
well we knew it but ichigo didnt. and bringing in isshin clears it up for ichigo beyond a doubt cause otherwise he would have probably though aizen was lying. plus the back story we will inevitably get will probably clear up a part of aizens plan as to why ichigo is so damn important.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on March 31, 2010, 12:59:35 PM
i don't think ichigo is important to aizen i just think he is using him as an experiment possibly knowing his potential... just so he can test his own strength
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on March 31, 2010, 01:01:14 PM
plus i think the back story is gonna be crap...

if he kept isshins story a mystery then he could have used in an other arc is he wish... but this mangaka clearly can't think straight....  i guess bleach will be a mess till the very end
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on March 31, 2010, 06:13:19 PM
new chapter out!
http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/398-93/1

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Account Disabled on March 31, 2010, 06:18:31 PM
Ichimari finally gonna show his bankai!?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on March 31, 2010, 08:20:01 PM
arrghh! i hate cliff hangers in manga. doesnt help that a typical chapter is like five minutes in anime time.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Account Disabled on March 31, 2010, 08:33:08 PM
Really? I always figured one chapter was half an episode, for 18-19 paged chapters that is.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on March 31, 2010, 08:36:37 PM
well just try running it through your head. thats why i say five minutes or so
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on March 31, 2010, 08:57:08 PM
well just try running it through your head. thats why i say five minutes or so

LOL... for bleach a chapter is equivalant to 5 minutes... because theres so much dam white space.. the authors wastes too much paper....

every other manga it is probably half an episodes because they pack a lot of info into 18 pages.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on April 01, 2010, 12:16:06 AM
For once I have to agree with Dawood. This is what I always felt about Bleach Manga.  It doesn't me I don't like it but just like authors waste space when they could put more into each chapter.

Something I always wanted to know in Bleach is the story behind Ichigos father.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 01, 2010, 12:23:58 PM
there is some wasted space i'll admit. i think the biggest thing with that is though is that he uses a lot of full page frames so he can relay the proper amount of the dramatic
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on April 07, 2010, 08:25:25 PM
latest - chapter 399

http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/399-100/1
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 07, 2010, 08:39:28 PM
kinda a let down. was suspecting more spectacular. but when you can level a city with a single swing i guess it comes into perspective.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on April 07, 2010, 08:51:31 PM
omg! this manga writer really annoys the heck out of me....  what was the point of end the last chapter with gin saying bankai.... and then not showing his bankai immediately in the next chapter... instead as if by magic he hasn't got his bankai out and infact him and ichigo are still having a conversation... what utter nonsense.. either he should have prolonged their arguement in the previous chapter and then said bankai
or he just forgets about the conversation and goes straight into the fight and work on making it a good one... its been a big let down.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on April 15, 2010, 11:31:06 AM
http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/400-126/1

bloody hell.... the mangaka was too busy concentrating on the ichigo fight... that he didn't show aizen vs isshins fight...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 15, 2010, 12:43:26 PM
well the aizen isshin fight seemed rather straight forward. it was just a bunch of power moves where nobody got serious damage and they never used shikai even. what im trying to say was if the fight would have been worth taking up several pages if you got the gist of it with a few frames every chapter.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on April 16, 2010, 08:22:53 AM
well the aizen isshin fight seemed rather straight forward. it was just a bunch of power moves where nobody got serious damage and they never used shikai even. what im trying to say was if the fight would have been worth taking up several pages if you got the gist of it with a few frames every chapter.

it would have absolutely been better than ichigo and gins fight!!!!!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on April 16, 2010, 09:09:05 AM
So in next chapter Aizen will be in his hallow form ? It's not good to see 2 interesting battles happen same time. I wish author had used whole chapter for one rather than 2 battles.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 16, 2010, 10:56:11 AM
it would have absolutely been better than ichigo and gins fight!!!!!

so what just forget about Gin all together? that wouldnt have gone over well. besides theres about to be a huge aizen fight to make up for it

So in next chapter Aizen will be in his hallow form ? It's not good to see 2 interesting battles happen same time. I wish author had used whole chapter for one rather than 2 battles.

i dont think aizen hollowfied himself. in fact he actually said he would never do that. it all has something to do with the hogyoku. i think aizen is trying to transcend into some god or something like that.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: rokurai on April 16, 2010, 02:40:16 PM
this entire arc is the longest battle ive read since DBZ. This will  probaly end in 3 ways,
1. Aizen kills Ichigo's dad then ichigo super hollow sayian  on Aizen, Aizen has no choice but to retreat as Inoue somehow brings chigo back to his senses.

2.Aizen pwns everyone after releasing his (yet to be known) bankai,  creates the kings key to raid the Royal palace where the zero squad is ready to pounce on him

3.Kubo quits because he has no idea on how he will end this
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 16, 2010, 03:01:55 PM
i figure something closer to the first one. but i doubt isshin will die since he's always been a kind of comic relief character until now and seriously how often do the comic relief characters die?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: rokurai on April 16, 2010, 03:23:03 PM
true comic relief characters doesnt die as much , unless theres someone he have to protect at all cost like a lover or family & friends. I think  it depends on the situation, say if he was alone & the only one who can fight while the others couldnt, buying time or somthing. Thats when you know hes gonna die




 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: matsurinoaoi on April 16, 2010, 07:17:31 PM
I think that Maes Hughes was a comic relief character up till his last couple of chapters. Not many heroes have died in Bleach, but you never know...
Speaking of which, what do you think happened to Grimmjow and Hiyori? I'm guessing that Grimmjow's gone, but it would be cool if he turned up in the later chapters... :-\
The last that was seen of Hiyori was when Unohana was standing near her, I think...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on April 16, 2010, 07:40:49 PM
gimmjaw got killed by nnoitro

true.. mae hughes was a comic relief character he died.... so too was jiraiya he died as well

but thats exactly it... we haven't seen the fight with aizen and isshin to really question anything... why hasn't aizen used his shikia....   why hasn't isshin used his shikai.....  they could both be saving them as trumps later on in the fight... but then why has aizen gone right to his hougyoku... why didn't he use his shikai.. because unohana stated that whoever has seen aizens shikai won't be able to beat him....   eh... i just think that the mangaka has let too many grey areas... the story is just not believable any more
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 16, 2010, 09:19:15 PM
that or your missing them. cause if you look at aizen's and isshin's swords they have the same hilt. i think they're actually the same sword like from the second bleach movie with toshiro. another option is that aizen was purposely wearing his body out so the process with the hogyoku. Hiyori is possibly still alive. pink hair dude was taking care of her from right after she was cut in half and unohana showed up after that. so theres a good chance i think she still has some life left.

and for the record Grimmjow is still alive! he was still clearly alive the last time he was shown. he was even talking. the idea that he died is only on the assumption that he just laid there and died off screen. plus arrancar have regenerative powers. he had nowhere to go but up!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on April 16, 2010, 10:52:44 PM
lol.. you are just assuming that both of them have the same power... they might not... having the same hilt doesn't really prove anything...  you havent really examined anyone elses zanpaktou... why start now? and thats exactly what i mean by him leaving to many grey areas...  this is why we are more interesting in isshin vs aizen...  rather than the crappy little fight ichigo is having with gin



 oh and the second bleach movie is a filler and a crappy filler at that... if this mangaka is taking an idea from a crappy movie.. he's a crappier mangaka than i had thought


i don't really care about hiyori she can die for all i care.. but she probably isn't cos unahana is on the scene

when exactly was grimmjaw talk??  before or after he got sliced through the chest by nnoitro??????  LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooh4GoQaEOM&NR=1
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 17, 2010, 01:25:30 AM
right after that video ends. he's laying on the ground and is like "that noitra" or something similar. and its the last time he's seen.

and dawood since you really dont seem to like bleach. like at all. why do you read it?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on April 17, 2010, 11:01:03 AM
right after that video ends. he's laying on the ground and is like "that noitra" or something similar. and its the last time he's seen.

and dawood since you really dont seem to like bleach. like at all. why do you read it?

i feel obligated to finish what i started... looks like the wait is nearly over... lol
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on April 17, 2010, 12:27:01 PM
Fillers won't be there unless author approve the story. And crappy or not is a personal opinion. Though I'm not saying Second Bleach movie is great, There are thousands of Bleach fans who like it.

In this case Grimmjow can return but I really don't think he would. He is not strong enough to face Any of captains so I don't think the author would bring him back.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Akiba66 on April 17, 2010, 01:08:55 PM
I think Grimmjow is the least of anyone's concerns. If he doe's comeback at this point I think Ichigo is more than ready to kill hi now if Isshin or Kisuke doesn't merely slice him in two as he arrives. I've been feeling that Kisuke and Yoruichi have been long over due to join in the fray of this war. I think its more likely that Urahara will show up now though. The hyogyouku is his creation after all so there's an element of responsibility there. And now the Aizen is merging with it I can see Kisuke being dragged into the fray to figure out how to stop Uber Aizen,
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on April 17, 2010, 01:25:29 PM
we are forgeting one thing.. and that is that urahara kisuke was exiled from the soul society where this fake karakura town is....  but whether or not his exile has been retracted is unknown.. whether or not the captain commander has the power to do that is unknown now that there is no central 46...

there is a possibility he will come to fight... i would like to see his bankai...  cos he seemed reluctant to show it when renji asked him why he wouldn't train chad with it...

but depending on the outcome of the next few chapters...  urahara role could be pivotal to stopping aizen
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 17, 2010, 01:51:10 PM
i think he will be pivotal either way since he's the one who made the hogyoku. so even if he doenst actually fight he'll do something in the information zone. and i imagine he can be unexiled. cause whatever force is keeping him out is probably just some barrier that can be undone.

oh and for the record the fake karakura town is on earth and the real one is in soul society. and since urahara is unable to enter soul society i figure he was sort of left behind like the viazards were. i figure that he'll show up later and it will be revealed thats he's been trying to get in the whole time or something like that. since the only way the viazards got in was that they found the first division's lieutenant (i forget name)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on April 17, 2010, 02:21:28 PM
in that case.. there is nothin stopping him from entering the fake karakura town
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 17, 2010, 02:35:20 PM
well the barrier is still around the fake one. and it was never clarified whether the lieutenant went back outside. guess we'll just have to find out
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Akiba66 on April 17, 2010, 05:53:18 PM
I doubt the barrier will stop Urahara from getting through, he has Tessa(Former Captain of the Kido Corps) on his side. If hew knew two two forbidden Kido I'm sure he knows his way around a barrier.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on April 17, 2010, 10:47:30 PM
I agree with Akiba, I don't think a barrier would keep Urahara. He is a tech guy.


Also I think Urahara will show up sooner or later. His Bankai would be interesting to see since he'd told chad or Renji  his Bankai is not something they can train with. So it must be something powerful and destructive.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on April 22, 2010, 04:58:55 AM
Latest Bleach manga 401 -  http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/401-131/2
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Akiba66 on April 22, 2010, 04:08:07 PM
Looks like I called it right.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on April 22, 2010, 08:28:11 PM
Looks like I called it right.

yup
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 22, 2010, 08:55:57 PM
awesome! we might finally get to see his bankai now
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: rokurai on April 23, 2010, 04:04:30 AM
can any guess how this will end?   i mean Aizen pretty much lost his army, so even if he did make the kings key & enter the royal kingdom. Whats going to stop the zero squad from pwnding him?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: matsurinoaoi on April 23, 2010, 08:30:46 AM
The Hogyoku?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 23, 2010, 11:17:49 AM
matsu has a point. if the thing really does make your dreams come true and it has binded with aizens soul there could be  a problem here.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Account Disabled on April 23, 2010, 02:13:29 PM
Isn't Urahara the one who made the Hogyoku? I feel like he's just gonna punch Aizen in the face with the weakness of it, or tell Ichigo it so he can be the main character and just kill Aizen.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: matsurinoaoi on April 23, 2010, 05:28:51 PM
But then again, it was Aizen who found out what the Hogyoku's true power, and Urahara himself was unable to destroy it (he sealed it inside of Rukia instead)...
Or at least, according to Aizen :P
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 23, 2010, 08:11:08 PM
all in all though aizen had more time to study it. urahara saw what it did and assumed that to be its power. of course its possible that urahara had developed some kind of counter  measure
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: matsurinoaoi on April 23, 2010, 08:38:34 PM
Good point...I'm at a loss for an idea for the weakness, though...so I guess I'll have to wait and see what happens next.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: kuro-ame-neko on April 24, 2010, 01:51:19 AM
yea--bleach chapters are getting unpredictable.......
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 24, 2010, 03:43:17 PM
thats more of a good thing i think though. keeps people interested.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on April 24, 2010, 07:01:23 PM
How the hell are they getting unpredictable... everyone on this thread were predicting urahara would showed a week before he showed up... LOL
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Account Disabled on April 24, 2010, 07:04:49 PM
That's cause Urahara never disappoints.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: kuro-ame-neko on April 24, 2010, 08:51:48 PM
thats coz he hardly shows himself- i think o.O
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 25, 2010, 01:40:24 PM
i think its more accurate to say he shows himself when something important is happening. but the unpredictable part is what he's going to do not that he would appear
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on April 25, 2010, 03:04:03 PM
tite kubo seems to ruin every unpredictable moment with a crappy outcome... however this may possibly be an expection cos i think he's thought out what uraharas bankai is for a long time.... however i am not going to hold my breath... lol...   there are a lot of urahara fans out there if he gets this wrong.. then he's in deep doodoo
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 25, 2010, 03:34:25 PM
i'm just confused as to what it could be. i mean his shikai doesnt tell us all too much. i mean theres the blood shield and slice things but other than that.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 27, 2010, 05:07:49 AM
Aizen is just too powerful. I'm thinking the Zero Squad will have to come in.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 27, 2010, 02:39:18 PM
who knows. i mean we still have 5 captain class shinigami in play. not counting unohana since she's busy healing.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 28, 2010, 05:53:24 AM
You wonder how kenpachi will react when he sees Aizen, he'll go mad with the lust for the fight!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on April 28, 2010, 09:30:10 AM
You wonder how kenpachi will react when he sees Aizen, he'll go mad with the lust for the fight!

he isnt gonna see aizen cos he's still in hueco mundo fighting yammy....   the fight with aizen would probably be finished by the time kenpachi leaves hueco mundo...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 28, 2010, 11:24:52 AM
makes me wonder if they're going to delve back into the Yami fight. i mean if he really does get stronger as he gets more pissed off since he cant kill them theoretically theres a point where he would be so pissed that he becomes stronger than both of them.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 28, 2010, 12:31:02 PM
@ Dawood I'm aware... at least that means chad, ishida and orihime won't come. They're so weak. But they're likable characters.

@ Coryn. I have a feeling Kubo would do just that to leave us hanging. I mean, he hasn't even shown whether whatsername? [Hitsugaya's sis?] is dead or not. They're so many things to be tied up, and so many directions. It makes the manga so interesting.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on April 28, 2010, 03:38:10 PM
@ Dawood I'm aware... at least that means chad, ishida and orihime won't come. They're so weak. But they're likable characters.

@ Coryn. I have a feeling Kubo would do just that to leave us hanging. I mean, he hasn't even shown whether whatsername? [Hitsugaya's sis?] is dead or not. They're so many things to be tied up, and so many directions. It makes the manga so interesting.

now that Unohana is back theres a good chance she may survive... although i don't really care either way..

NO MANGA CHAPTER THIS WEEK - ITS GOLDEN WEEK
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 28, 2010, 04:52:17 PM
What's Golden Week?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on April 28, 2010, 05:08:51 PM
What's Golden Week?

its a japanese national holiday
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: matsurinoaoi on April 28, 2010, 07:53:33 PM
I mean, he hasn't even shown whether whatsername? [Hitsugaya's sis?] is dead or not.
Ah, yes. That's Momo Hinamori. She's a childhood friend of Hitsugaya, not a sister.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 28, 2010, 09:40:13 PM
@ Dawood. Oh.

@ Matsu really? They looked awfully family like, but i guess it makes sense with their vast character differences.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on May 04, 2010, 01:46:56 PM
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/402/01/

Do you think Aizen  is done ?

Well whatever that blast has done I think Ichgo is the one who will defeat Aizen. Just like Naruto and Sasuke.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on May 04, 2010, 02:23:49 PM
urahara is da man! lol
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 04, 2010, 02:55:20 PM
even if aizen isnt dead he's seriously messed up. but this is why urahara is my favorite character.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on May 04, 2010, 11:30:36 PM
Since Aizen has Hogyouku, I think he is going appear in next chapter without a scratch.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 05, 2010, 11:31:45 AM
if he does. that would mean he's pretty much immortal. which pretty much means end of series.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Akiba66 on May 05, 2010, 05:58:59 PM
Chapter Summary = Kisuke Urahara for the Win!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: matsurinoaoi on May 05, 2010, 08:15:33 PM
Chapter Summary = Kisuke Urahara for the Win!
Lets hope so...There's still Ichimaru, though. Maybe Aizen did some kind of backup plan involving him...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 05, 2010, 08:38:03 PM
who knows. Gin seems to be on a different level than Tousen was. more like an equal than servant type deal. i imagine if Gin isnt killed during the fight though he'll just run off somewhere and just live his life. he seems like that kind of guy if you get my meaning
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: matsurinoaoi on May 05, 2010, 09:23:35 PM
Yeah...I'm not sure what Gin's motive is. He was kind of recruited by Aizen after he killed the previous 3rd Captain. I'm sure that Kubo will put some Ichimaru x Matsumoto kind of stuff soon...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 05, 2010, 09:29:01 PM
wait he didnt kill the 3rd captain. it was the 3rd seat of his squad
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: matsurinoaoi on May 05, 2010, 09:29:57 PM
Oops...I got confused  :confused:
Finally, I put the confused face into proper use.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on May 05, 2010, 10:43:03 PM
theres a pecking order i think... i wouldn't assume that gin is anywhere near as strong as aizen....  so far there are only 3 who have equaled aizen.. they are captain yama who would have beaten aizen had he not lost his zanpaktou... isshin was close to beating  before he started merging with the hogyokou and of course kisuke urahara who beat aizen whilst he was merging...  but of course it will be clear in the next chapter that aizen is anything but dead ( predictable cliffhanger)

i think that gin right now... is a tad stronger than ichigo... cos ichigo has to concentrate really hard....  but obviously both ichigo and gin havent put all of their cards on the table.. and that fight is on hiatus possibly on a permenant basis because the mangaka is trying to speed the ending up.... therefore....   one of the other captains will take gin out...  why you ask????

because its blatantly obvious that ichigo holds the power to destroying aizen... this was shown by the amount of faith the other captains hold in ichigos power... mayuri, kenpachi and byakuya showed in hueco mundo...  unohana told ichigo as they were returning to the real world......  and not to mention captain yama telling ichigo to get away from the explosion he was going to create

prior to ichigo whooping aizens fully merged hougyoku ass...   i predict that there will be bit and pieces thrown in to peak our interest such as... possible bankai for kenpachi.. the zero squads arrival ...and possible dying of characters to get ichigo all emotional thus unleashing his true power... lol ...

l :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 05, 2010, 11:08:46 PM
all the cards on the table perhaps. but i dont know if kubo is trying to speed up the ending. but i really dont think gin was ever meant to be defeated in the first place. cause he was never built up as this ultimate evil needing to be defeated. i do think that gin may have some ulterior motive though. he's just to shifty looking to be so simple >.>
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 06, 2010, 05:33:55 AM
Urhahara is officially my fav character at the moment. He's impossibly calm. His like an aizen, and i really didn't trust the way he talked about hogyouku.

But Aizen aint done, uh uh. No way, until i'm sure he didn't use his shikai and the hogyuko is busted, then i'm saying he makes a comeback as usual. But what he was transforming into was really wierd...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on May 13, 2010, 07:07:06 PM
CHAPTER 403 - http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/68739147/2
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: AnimeDoodler on May 13, 2010, 07:31:32 PM
*sigh* even with the badassness of urahara, yoroichi AND ichigo's dad combined, aizen isnt over yet..guess its going to take some main character deus ex machina to end this battle for sure -_-
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 13, 2010, 07:33:00 PM
i honestly have no idea what the hell is going to happen. i mean at least that cracked him up but he does have that regeneration thing going on.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on May 16, 2010, 12:10:56 AM
I agree with Dawoods review about events going to unfold.

We are going to see few Bankai's including Aizen's and urahara for sure.

Also I hope zero squad will arrival too.

I don't think there would be deaths among good guys here because I haven't seen Bleach author doing it a lot unlike Naruto author.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on May 20, 2010, 09:52:24 AM
Chapter 404 - http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/93663580/2
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 20, 2010, 10:39:45 AM
At least ichigo has started moving. By the way the chapter ended i'm guessing it might just go off in a flashback sort of episode, but no mind. I'm not looking forward to battle at the moment.

Things aren't looking good for the heroes... though. I mean, Aizen has the largest sleeves in the world. Even after his heirro is cracked something else will pop up. It might just end tragic...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 20, 2010, 11:04:08 AM
Wait, question, guys, wasn't Hogyoku supposed to make Aizen a diety? Then was the plan to make the kings key in soul society was just a McGuffin?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 20, 2010, 12:20:19 PM
mcguffin?

but no i think. basically he wants the key so he can take over soul society after killing the king. and by using the hogyoku he's trying to make himself a god of sorts but not in a overly literal sense.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 20, 2010, 03:37:11 PM
Oh, uh, just read up on a wikipedia page and the phrase stuck. I sort of like it.

Its a plot driver that isn't essential to the overall plot of a tale. It is usually wholly forgotten in the end of a story. I was thinking The King's Key served that purpose.

But you know, if meagre 13 squad battlers have held up Aizen so long, what happens if he meets the king and his squad? Some convincing power from Aizen should be displayed... Or maybe the king is just an out of focus thing...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 20, 2010, 03:40:53 PM
who knows. what the king actually does was never really touched on. i would imagine he's on old powerful shinigami though
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 20, 2010, 03:44:44 PM
Yeah... I really do hope there's another arc in the story after this one. It would kill me if it ended on this.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on May 20, 2010, 06:27:39 PM
Yeah... I really do hope there's another arc in the story after this one. It would kill me if it ended on this.

the quicker this manga ends the better
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 24, 2010, 05:58:26 AM
sadly that's true.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on May 25, 2010, 01:42:53 PM
Chapter 404  is soo boring. I really prefer Bleach Anime to Manga.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: [aero] on May 25, 2010, 08:51:47 PM
I guess all the excitement went missing...



Sorry, had to do it >_>
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Kronos on May 26, 2010, 04:22:21 AM
I bet Aizen will win and goes to 'heven' to kill 'god'.
and after that a new arc will begin. Hopefully in it, Ichigo will learn how
to control his pwnage ressurccion.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on May 26, 2010, 04:27:49 AM
Well since Ichigo is the main character I guess he will beat Aizen at end. But What I want to see is the arrival of the King and zero squad.

I wonder this King guy is more powerful than Captain commander ?


Oh by the way Kronos, plz post a intro topic in Welcome center and tell us more about you ? it always helps to know everyone fast !  :)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: AnimeDoodler on May 27, 2010, 07:25:55 PM
http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/91349233/1


poor aizen cant finish a sentence XD
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 27, 2010, 08:15:31 PM
oh i cant wait to see this animated
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on May 31, 2010, 12:50:48 AM
Another combined attack. Probably not gonna work ?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 31, 2010, 01:37:23 PM
who knows. isshin is obviously old and powerful and he's using a getsuga. so that does give a good chance. i'm more interested in whats going to happen with gin and matsumoto
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 04, 2010, 09:28:22 PM
chapter 406

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/406/01/

interesting
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Akiba66 on June 07, 2010, 03:15:25 AM
Does anyone else see a resemblance between Aizen (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/406/16/) and Ichigo? (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/353/05/) Maybe its me, but that looks an awful lot like hollowfication.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on June 07, 2010, 05:24:30 AM
Ahh that's it ? I expected more action from team urahara !!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 07, 2010, 12:16:02 PM
yeah it does seem like some form of hollowfication. probably different in some way though. as for urahara's group we still havnt seen tessai so it makes me wonder what he's up to.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on June 07, 2010, 10:50:31 PM
If Urahara's team couldn't do much about Aizen I doubt what Tessai can do.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 07, 2010, 10:57:50 PM
well the point was more that he's probably up to something. not that he was about to fight aizen head on.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on June 14, 2010, 12:49:08 AM
Well everyone is upto something. Like stopping Aizen. Old man Yama didn't do anything yet either. I mean confronting Aizen.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Kronos on June 14, 2010, 07:54:35 AM
Ishin is teaching Ichigo the ' Last Getsuga Tenshou'
Its probably stronger than a normal one.
can't wait how it will look like....

hmmm............hey people, is getsuga tenshou in the future going to have number places?
like the 'first getsuga tenshou'?:D


(......ps not a serious question ;)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 16, 2010, 01:23:35 PM
Old man Yama didn't do anything yet either. I mean confronting Aizen.

what about the part where he fought him?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on June 24, 2010, 09:58:57 AM
http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/13681102/2

i'm pretty sure i've seen old man zengestu using the black sword tensa zengestu which would be a major flaw
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 24, 2010, 02:09:33 PM
*wracks brain*

i cant seem to recall him using it before. unless you count the filler
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Kronos on June 25, 2010, 09:48:13 PM
he probably did in the bankai training in the 1st arc.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: matsurinoaoi on June 25, 2010, 11:50:08 PM
True...Hollow Ichigo used Zangetsu, too...And later he fused with the old man Zangetsu, or at least, according to him.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on June 26, 2010, 12:19:01 AM
Old man Yama didn't do anything yet either. I mean confronting Aizen.
what about the part where he fought him?

Hmm I don't remember Yama fighting with Aizen. Could you tell me the chapter ?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 26, 2010, 12:22:52 AM
it was chapters 393 to 396 http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/393/ did you forget to check up on it for a month or so?

he probably did in the bankai training in the 1st arc.
True...Hollow Ichigo used Zangetsu, too...And later he fused with the old man Zangetsu, or at least, according to him.


1. ichigo didnt even know about bankai till the second arc. and when he did do bankai training it wasnt in his inner world.
2. hollow ichigo is zangetsu in the first place.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on June 26, 2010, 12:27:13 AM
Yes I think I missed a bunch last month or before with all those server problems. I ll read these. Thanks Coryn.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lirne on June 26, 2010, 12:12:03 PM
I didn't even know this stuff until now. Thanks for clearing up what i didn't know.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Kronos on June 27, 2010, 06:56:58 AM
the 2nd arc?
sorry but I'm at the latest and i forgot most of the things of the past  -_-
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lirne on June 27, 2010, 02:42:27 PM
Yeah, same. I think I skipped like 50 episodes in Anime, and I skipped like 100 chapters in the manga.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 27, 2010, 03:13:20 PM
yeah i would suggest going back and going over what you skipped/missed
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lirne on June 27, 2010, 03:59:15 PM
Yeah, I should, but I'm too lazy.  :(
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Kronos on June 28, 2010, 04:29:54 AM
wow! thats a lot of chapters you skipped :confused:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on July 09, 2010, 01:03:50 PM
CHAPTER 411 -  http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/91213640/1

oh no... how anti-climactic was that... the person stepping out of the shadows was don kanonji

and why does tenza zengestu have to make yet another tranformation its utterly and completely pointless... just blattantly wasting time, energy and paper
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 09, 2010, 03:58:09 PM
The don kanonji thing was annoying, indeed. I expected Ishida's father. How annoying.

Hm, i don't really find the transformation pointless. It slightly connects why Ichigo's inner world city is submerged in water. Personally i find it frustrating only because that the chapter is so short.

And what the heck is up with adding don kanonji in the middle of a serious climax(that, i find pointless)

Pretty scary the way Aizen actually expects Ichigo to bring a new power. It's like he dealt with the janitor to help him train. What a villain.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 09, 2010, 08:50:06 PM
well i think kanoji showing up was an attempt at breaking up the intensity of it that he's been trying to create. still annoying but knowing the rational makes it easier to deal with
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: AnimeDoodler on July 09, 2010, 08:55:48 PM
O_o.....WHAT THE HELL!!????


-____-...I thought kubo-Sensei was not going to do a Kishimoto..guess I was wrong >_<
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 09, 2010, 08:57:40 PM
for those who dont know naruto could you elucidate?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: AnimeDoodler on July 09, 2010, 09:42:02 PM
Yes.

Kishimoto, the author of the Naruto manga, went insane. Instead of following the story of his manga title, he chose to appease teh fangirls....long story short, FILLER IN MANGA IS POSSIBLE.

Kubo-Sensai, whom I love, appears to be following this example by having minor characters reappear that were forgotten and didnt need to come back (Don-Konoji), also producing a HORRIBLE plot twist.

In a nutshell, Kubo-Sensai might be going a Naruto direction...and considering Naruto went from awesome to "omg get it away from me" as soon as minor characters took over..I fear for the climax of Bleach.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 09, 2010, 09:48:58 PM
hm. well i dont think he'll end up having any major involvement. i'm mostly interested in whats going to happen with Gin. i've never been able to get down what his personality is really like
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Kronos on July 09, 2010, 10:18:54 PM
yea bec mastumotto came :-*
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on July 09, 2010, 11:16:00 PM
So there will be a fight between Gin and Matsumoto I guess. That gonna be interesting !
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 09, 2010, 11:20:59 PM
not so much of a fight i think. i mean he's a captain and she's barely on her feet. its going to be more of a mental thing i think .
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Kronos on July 10, 2010, 02:11:39 AM
yea, probably with some romance^-^

put that aside, I wonder how Ichigo will win against Tensa ZangetsuXHollowIchigo
it's like impossible, or ichigo's  gonna go through sth like that 'Instinct' thing again.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 23, 2010, 04:18:11 PM
http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/82151810/2


This is either a late discovery on my part, and everyone's already read it OR a reminder that bleach is still alive for the moment at mangastream. Read while you can, i say!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on July 30, 2010, 08:16:06 PM
This is either a late discovery on my part, and everyone's already read it OR a reminder that bleach is still alive for the moment at mangastream. Read while you can, i say!

mangastream isnt going anywhere its onemanga thats closing down
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Account Disabled on July 30, 2010, 08:24:02 PM
But isn't it a large list of manga sites that's going down? Not just onemanga and mangafox? I'm not sure if mangastream is on that list though. :confused:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 30, 2010, 08:29:46 PM
i'm not sure either. though i never used mangastream to begin with
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 01, 2010, 11:22:20 AM
I thought it was a mass attack on on line manga. I guess onemanga and mangafox were easier to get at...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Fnnenn Enninn on August 01, 2010, 12:58:49 PM
I guess Mangastream isn't going anywhere because it only has mainstream titles so therefore isn't that big.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Kronos on August 02, 2010, 04:36:39 AM
They're only tackling sites that exhibits manga for profit but mostly it depends of the site whether it has legal rights to display them or not.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: binary otacon on August 12, 2010, 11:38:37 PM
if Gin dies, i'm done with Bleach (i wont be alone)

Aizen SHOULD be dead
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 13, 2010, 05:57:22 AM
I saw that coming. I didn't really expect Aizen to lose. No matter what, Ichigo is going to have to fight him.

(... i've always liked Aizen's costumes, but he looks like a butterfly now.)

Still, I'm so impatient to see the outcome!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 13, 2010, 02:16:03 PM
ditto. though we still cant be sure he's dead yet. we could get a grimmjow thing going on there.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 13, 2010, 02:22:03 PM
A grimmjow thing? (I can't quite make the comparision)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 13, 2010, 02:33:03 PM
grimmjow got real messed up but never actually died.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 13, 2010, 03:37:41 PM
Didn't he get slashed by Nim- Nam-... that Espada who fought Kenpachi? But they only showed blood, so maybe he is alive.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 13, 2010, 03:44:56 PM
Noitora. but the last scene grimmjow was shown in he was perfectly alive and laying on the sand talking to ichigo. injured yes but he was never shown to have died.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 13, 2010, 03:56:50 PM
Ohh! Yeah, i remember! (Plus i've just rewatched the episode)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Krakistophales on August 18, 2010, 01:42:25 AM
The idea of Ichigo undergoing another hack upgrade and beating Aizen, a being that couldn't be touched by top contenders such as the Karakura undercover team, Yamamoto, the combined efforts of Hitsugaya, Shunsui, Soi Fon, and others, really bothers me.

I don't care how strong his new hollow form is, I want an explanation of his background and reason for his powers. We've had upgrade after upgrade without even a sliver of explanation behind it. We're now 400 something chapters into the story, and we still don't have a clue about Ichigo. How can we continue to have no clue about him, yet he'll take down a Godly powered being like Aizen...just because Kubo says so? That's bad writing, and I hope it changes soon.

The idea of Gin turning on Aizen was a nice touch, though. We all saw it coming, but right around now was a good time to get that rolling. Honestly, I've been sick of Aizen for almost 100 chapters, so his death can't come soon enough. We need a much better villain in the next story arc.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 18, 2010, 01:52:43 AM
well if you want an explanation of sorts for ichigo's ability its cause *SPOILER*

he's a hybrid between a human and a shinigami. and really if scifi has taught us nothing else is that a hybrid species always has amazing abilities/potentials that the two origin species

*END SPOILER*

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 18, 2010, 04:11:42 AM
I really think this is the last story arc, Kraki. I'm guessing that because of the way things are being prolongued... But i really hope not.

The fact that Ichigo remains alive, i think, is really Aizens choice. He wants to eat him.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 18, 2010, 12:59:32 PM
that or he plans on sacrificing him for the key or something. though with him changing all the time who knows. at this point he could turn into anything i think.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 18, 2010, 05:04:43 PM
Yup, and i have this nagging hope that they'll actually show the Zero Squad and The King, maybe. fingers crossed?

Gin is one of my favorite characters now. Just wish he tried assasinating Aizen at a better time.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 18, 2010, 05:07:59 PM
there could be some reason why he waited. i mean his motives arent exactly clear
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 18, 2010, 05:10:53 PM
Aizen is like that. Really freaky... and who the heck were those fellow conspirators? ...

I doubt Rangiku is dead. I think Gin used a device to supress her reiatsu...


Just wish i didn't catch up with the manga. It is annoying to wait a week. Or rather, i wish the scanlations were out. From what onemanga said before it was shut down Bleach was on 430 something...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 18, 2010, 05:21:49 PM
its on 415 actually. 416 should have been out last friday but it didnt. holiday or something?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 18, 2010, 05:27:17 PM
Maybe. That means... color page? Yay... Ichigo better come looking badass, though.

Oh, i meant in regular Japanese its on the 430s. Or did i get that wrong? They had this progress writing on some corner of the manga 'Current Episode: 4...' and i'm sure i saw 430...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Account Disabled on August 18, 2010, 05:33:06 PM
http://www.mangareader.net/94-56757-1/bleach/chapter-416.html

It just updated on mangareader which I moved to from onemanga.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 18, 2010, 05:33:52 PM
Oh yes! Thanks Litt!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Account Disabled on August 18, 2010, 05:35:41 PM
I thought the big three stopped being scanlated but apparently I was wrong. Probably just a break, I think I read something like that one One Piece and Naruto as well, or I may be mistaken.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 18, 2010, 05:40:59 PM
We'll take advantage of that while we still can.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: AnimeDoodler on August 18, 2010, 05:42:59 PM
Manga stream has Ch.416n out...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 18, 2010, 05:44:48 PM
my site finally updated too
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 18, 2010, 05:46:24 PM
What's your site again, Coryn? It was this new name...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 18, 2010, 05:54:42 PM
http://www.bleachexile.com/
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Krakistophales on August 19, 2010, 01:47:30 AM
More cryptic, undeveloped **** I'm **** tired of this **** Now Ichigo is going to come in and beat Aizen? Just like that? What a **** anti-climactic ending to a totally anti-climactic story arc.


I swear, I don't even know why I keep reading...it must be because I've already read this far.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 19, 2010, 08:38:29 AM
ICHIGO IS BADASS.

Crapatoa. He looks so awesome! Have you guys SEEN this?!

Awesome! Why can't i see moar on the spot! So frustrating!

Tite Kubo is awesome!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Tostificer on August 19, 2010, 08:42:30 AM
Hey, that's manga/anime. It's waiting time, Lego.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 19, 2010, 08:50:11 AM
Yeah. You've checked out the chapter?

Right now i'm just rewatching the anime to keep me busy. But seriously i'm becoming a fan now. I mean, i'm spewing out sketches like crazy.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Tostificer on August 19, 2010, 08:52:50 AM
Nope, bleach isn't really my thing. I started ages ago, but did no more than that.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 19, 2010, 08:56:56 AM
Oh. Too bad. When all else seems boring you should give it a second try.

What is your thing, exactly. Don't think you ever said. I know you liked Death Note...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Tostificer on August 19, 2010, 09:03:46 AM
I liked Death Note, indeed, but I'm also a great fan of FMA.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 19, 2010, 09:05:30 AM
I better get to FMA. I only saw the opening two pages and the art was really detailed. Plus the chapters are longer. When my net gets better i'll catch up... Have you finished it? (or is it even done yet ???)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Tostificer on August 19, 2010, 09:07:35 AM
It's sorta done, depends on how you look at it. Although you'll have to draw it.

Anyhow, any of the series where FMA belongs to, that includes Death Note, XxxHolic and Fairy Tail, are awesome.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 19, 2010, 09:11:13 AM
*Writes them down*

Okay. I'll note that.

(Gtg to lunch then....)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Tostificer on August 19, 2010, 09:12:32 AM
You DON'T know Fairy Tail?! Where have you been the last few... months?!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 19, 2010, 01:53:13 PM
not paying attention i guess. i still need to read fairy tail myself though. it's on the list.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 19, 2010, 01:55:10 PM
Hehe, thats me... still unaware of things... i have a lot to read, though. So much apparently awesome manga/anime... i haven't been able to sink into one properly yet.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Tostificer on August 19, 2010, 02:01:34 PM
Well Coryn, it's time to read them. Fairy Tail is pretty good! Neat action scenes. Also, good luck with the moving.

And Lego, manga IS awesome. So yeah...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: binary otacon on August 25, 2010, 02:11:12 PM
Gin's trolling was horific, but Ichigo looked nice, and i doubt Gin is dead, jus incapacitated

also new spoilers for 417, not much happened really
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Account Disabled on August 25, 2010, 08:05:32 PM
http://www.mangareader.net/94-56926-1/bleach/chapter-417.html

I was just wondering, did Ichigo become god yet? Cause that's where I think this series is heading.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Monsterful on August 25, 2010, 10:04:10 PM
*sigh* that's so cliche... : ( why can't most shounens get over that, the main character is always god...

What if god is one of us?... Just a stranger in the bus... Or the main character of a shounen manga.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 26, 2010, 08:51:53 AM
well thats how it goes i guess. though i would imagine its not like aizen still doesnt have a few tricks.

*realizes he has a basically god main character too.*
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Monsterful on August 26, 2010, 11:46:33 AM
well yours was a god from the very beginning so it's a different.

I mean the hero always starts out as a weakling with "promising" strength and between that and the final battle he becomes god.

Though I do think aizen should have something up his sleeve anyway. 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 26, 2010, 12:31:43 PM
Eh? Ichigo a god? I'd just say he's become ridiculously strong, like Aizen did. Not on the level of the actual King of Soul Society (god)...

I must say i'm completely thrilled by this chapter.  Zangetsu has become cooler. Ichigo has become cooler... This is so awesome!

But we all know Aizen has plenty of trump cards. Possibly another evolution even.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 26, 2010, 12:40:05 PM
well i dont think he's stopped evolving in the first place yet. like how he randomly spurted the wings
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 26, 2010, 12:56:49 PM
I have a hope that Ichigo looses and Aizen takes over... (to prolong the series enough to get every single person to reveal their bankai's n shikais. Plus to reveal Ichigo's and Uryuu's dad's pasts).

... I wonder if the 'Final Getsuga' Kills the user? That would be interesting...

Anyway i'm reading something else for the rest of the year. I need the new chapters to pile up. Hopefully it won't be spoiled for me in the process.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 26, 2010, 05:04:56 PM
i wouldnt count on that last part. when i ends i got the feeling it'll be big news and it'll be pretty hard not to come across it.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 03, 2010, 07:50:51 PM
http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/23917951/1

For once Aizen's eyes widen in shock. For once.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lirne on September 04, 2010, 02:44:44 PM
Nah, he's just going with the wave, and then he's going to get stronger and pwn Ichigo, then Ichigo will pwn him.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 04, 2010, 03:12:57 PM
Yeah, its really predictable, isn't it? But i really don't mind.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Tostificer on September 04, 2010, 03:46:35 PM
That's pretty much the reason why I don't like these Anime/Manga's.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Kronos on September 06, 2010, 07:48:19 AM
 buts thats the whole point of the manga stories XD
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Fabiafidus on September 06, 2010, 08:05:07 AM
This is mostly the reason i liked Death note, and i think that Blackrock shooter is gonna be the same.

Unpredictable.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lirne on September 06, 2010, 10:38:10 AM
It makes me sad when I can tell whats going to happen in manga...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 14, 2010, 05:40:02 AM
SPOILER!!!



http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/57984491/2









SPOILER!!!




Prediction about Aizen evolving again = correct

Prediction about Aizen wolfing on Ichigo, then Ichigo about to wolf on him = correct

Still love it though!

The art!

The evolution of Aizen was pretty scary! Check it out!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 14, 2010, 08:40:48 AM
you should read your bleach at another site. i already read this chapter like a week ago
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Tostificer on September 14, 2010, 09:57:25 AM
The EXACT reason I just do not like Bleach. Come ON people, a bit of originality and unpredictability?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 14, 2010, 10:37:22 AM
toasty every shonen is like that. just when it looks like the bad guy is gonna die right off the bat he does something that gives him an edge. though its not like he asked for the transformation it just kinda happened so that's a bit different from the norm
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 14, 2010, 11:02:28 AM
It was kind of my own fault for reading it late.

Toasty! BLASPHEMY! How dare you disrespect Bleach!

Anyhow i guess you probably didn't like it in the first place. Maybe you started with the anime before the manga? Anyhow if you had ideas already formed before following it you'd never like it... a pity...

Aizen really turned into a cool monster, though. Kubo Tite really knows his stuff...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Tostificer on September 14, 2010, 11:05:42 AM
I dunno, it just seems to me like yet another Naruto story, which I also don't like. More unpredicable things, or stories with a better background, which carry you with them and almost make you cry (because really, I almost cried when Huges died in FMA). And above all, not these things where the main thing is über powers which destroy everything (the ninjutsu in Naruto, the I-don't-know-what in Bleach, etc.).
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 14, 2010, 11:12:00 AM
AGH!!! SPOILER!!!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Tostificer on September 14, 2010, 11:24:28 AM
Omg yes! Well, it was obvious anyway if you look at it. Btw, I didn't say how he died.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 14, 2010, 12:15:29 PM
how have you not watched FMA yet though?  :confused:

either way uber powers are the the mainstay of popular shounen for years now. it's like half the point
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 14, 2010, 12:18:04 PM
how have you not watched FMA yet though?  :confused:


I don't know. I think i live in a completely alternate dimension (a boring one), rather than a cut off country. Working on it like heck though. There's a list i'm going through.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 14, 2010, 12:18:59 PM
you should move it to the top of said list. i dont care what else you have to watch FMA is damn important
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 14, 2010, 12:22:30 PM
When onemanga (may it rest in peace) was still active i saw the first two pages and the graphics were really detailed. I loved the shading so yeah i'll follow your advice and move it to the top...

... to be followed by Tenjo Tenje....
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: matsurinoaoi on September 15, 2010, 12:05:18 AM
Hurry! Follow the FMA legacy before something happens and you go blind or something!
...But anyway. Speaking of FMA, for those who have read the manga to the near-end, didn't Aizen remind you of hmmm?
At first, in chapter 418 on page 7, I though Aizen had obtained Quincy powers or something XD
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 15, 2010, 04:46:07 AM
That's a scary thought. Don't say such things! My eyesight is already bad...
 
and *phew* Nice catch on the near spoiler.

Yeah it did sorta look quincy... o.o ... but i find it kinda sad that Uryuu's dad wasn't involved in one of the fights at least.

Things look like its reached the finale...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Tostificer on September 15, 2010, 06:43:33 AM
Watch FMA>Read Manga>Watch FMA Brotherhood

In that order.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 15, 2010, 07:37:40 AM
I'd rather read the manga first.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Tostificer on September 15, 2010, 11:32:31 AM
If you do, let me warn you. The FMA anime doesn't correspond that much the the manga, since it was made before the manga was finished. So the second half of it is kinda... Made up. I'm going to watch Brotherhood as soon as it's finished downloading. The Brotherhood version, btw, is the version which is made after the manga was finished, so it's much better. I personally belief, that is.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 15, 2010, 11:41:48 AM
and lets keep on topic shall we?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Tostificer on September 15, 2010, 11:42:37 AM
Ah yes.

*Walks out of topic room*
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 16, 2010, 12:20:08 PM
420. sorta expected. but still awesome
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lirne on September 16, 2010, 07:01:56 PM
The latest chapter was so cliche I can tell what's going to happen.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Account Disabled on September 16, 2010, 07:14:52 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the story went:

Aizen dies and Soul Society wins, Ichigo loses all powers and so he's returned to the human world (He could die, never know). If he does return to the human world everyone's memory will be wiped and so they continue their old lives. Ichigo encounters some people like Urahara, Yoruichi as a cat, and then BAM! Rukia.

Well there's probably gonna be a cliche ending of some sort that would be as used as the above.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 16, 2010, 08:11:04 PM
i dont see any reason he would lose his memoreis though.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: [aero] on September 16, 2010, 08:14:34 PM
just cause its cliche >_>

plus wasnt he never supposed to be a shinigami in the beginning? i didnt watch much but i remember him starting out by doing something with rukia
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 16, 2010, 08:17:26 PM
SPOILERS




well yeah rukia gave him her shinigami powers and all but after he was almost killed at the end up the first story arc he lost the powers she gave him. later on it was revealed he had is own shinigami powers for some reason or another and then even farther down the road we find out his dad was actually a powerful shinigami though that was never quite explained. so he's a hybrid species basically


END SPOILERS
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: tripleddizzy on September 16, 2010, 08:31:40 PM
apparently...every manga is cliche
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: matsurinoaoi on September 16, 2010, 11:12:10 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the story went:

Aizen dies and Soul Society wins, Ichigo loses all powers and so he's returned to the human world (He could die, never know). If he does return to the human world everyone's memory will be wiped and so they continue their old lives. Ichigo encounters some people like Urahara, Yoruichi as a cat, and then BAM! Rukia.
Pfahahahahaha!!
Sorry, it reminded me of this other manga series XD
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Account Disabled on September 17, 2010, 06:18:22 AM
That's what I was going for Matsu. :tongue:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on September 17, 2010, 07:22:45 AM
Ichigos father seems to be captain class Shinigami. What will happen in next chapter ?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 17, 2010, 01:49:04 PM
a bit behind are we hasith? his dad being captain class was confirmed like way back when we first found out he was a shinigami.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Account Disabled on September 17, 2010, 02:39:11 PM
Maybe he's too busy to keep up with the manga? :confused:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 21, 2010, 07:28:02 AM
That was  awesome, the way ichigo transformed...

And i think people sometimes confuse the word 'genre' with 'cliche'. Unintentionally, of course, but it still happens.

Whatever way it ends i still love this manga.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lirne on September 21, 2010, 05:29:53 PM
I was disappointed in Bleach when they decided to add in a story after Rukia's save.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 21, 2010, 05:34:04 PM
i dont think that part was added lirne. considering that entire arc was laced with preparations for aziens betrayal
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lirne on September 21, 2010, 05:34:54 PM
I thought it would've ended there. It was too much for me after that.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 21, 2010, 05:38:59 PM
really it looks like kubo has known the ending the whole time. every action has made sense the way it is explained. and everything leads up to what comes next. in the end you have to give him props for the forethought. kinda like with lost. by the end some people started to hate it but the entire story ends up being very logical 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: AnimeDoodler on September 22, 2010, 06:50:00 PM
http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/58631179/1

well...Urahara is a badass.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 22, 2010, 06:59:11 PM
AH SNAP! not quite the ending people were expecting me thinks.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: AnimeDoodler on September 22, 2010, 07:00:31 PM
I sense a disturbance in the force..
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 22, 2010, 07:00:54 PM
hm?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 23, 2010, 07:34:51 AM
One word:

THATWASAWESOME.

Also, indeed it's true. Urahara = Badass

I guess it's really ending, then.

But Aizen really is pathetic without power. Throughout he was just overreacting and shouting, pitiful...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lirne on September 26, 2010, 01:45:26 PM
I'm pretty sure he's not gone or at least bleach won't end just yet.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 26, 2010, 01:47:06 PM
i was talking with doodle last night and she said she read something about more arcs of bleach are planned. dont know how that will work out. different characters perhaps? like a prequel or something.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lirne on September 26, 2010, 01:48:17 PM
I'm am not looking forward to those.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 27, 2010, 05:31:01 AM
Oh, prequels? I'd like to see those. Soul Society's history has been kinda obscure.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 02, 2010, 12:55:41 PM
Just a heads up, chapter 422 is out

http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/81365508/1
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: kuro-ame-neko on October 03, 2010, 01:50:45 AM
I kind of guessed this chapter would have this sort of ending........what do you think would happen next?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 03, 2010, 01:53:25 AM
well since he just lost his shinigami powers and is now just a normal soul separated from its body in a way it shouldn't be i feel teh next thing thats going to happen is them keeping ichigo from dying. cant really say what the end result will be though
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: kuro-ame-neko on October 03, 2010, 06:52:47 AM
well isnt ichigo's shihakusho still there? and his 'screaming' doesn't have to mean that he's loosing his powers right?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 03, 2010, 01:20:50 PM
not necisarily i guess.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: monsta601 on October 03, 2010, 02:57:28 PM
I hope that Ichigo doesn't lose his shingami powers. If he did it would signal the end of the series and I doubt that anyone wants that.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 03, 2010, 05:52:06 PM
well i know there are plenty of people out there who just want the series to end

and monsta why dont you go to the welcome center and introduce yourself!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: kuro-ame-neko on October 04, 2010, 06:08:49 AM
i don't think the series would end this soon or there will be alot of complaints outside the office door. then theyre go bankrupt and then and then------
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 04, 2010, 09:54:30 AM
shounen jump go bankrupt? unlikely
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 10, 2010, 12:00:26 PM
very unlikely.


I kinda thought Ichigo was turning into a hollow because zangetsu had left.

As for Bleach 423

It's ended awfully nice, and i feel conflicted about it continuing. Aizen doesn't look quite done and so many things could go wrong.

Also, since it's continuing I'm thinking ichigo's hollow still has a part to play in this...

two weeks to find out... hmmm, i wonder if they'll all be grown up or something...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 10, 2010, 02:50:56 PM
who knows. i always imagined the last chapter of bleach to be so many hundred of years in the future and all of the characters are living their lives in soul society/hueco mundo. but we'll see
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: kuro-ame-neko on October 15, 2010, 03:46:49 AM
now watdoyanoe? bleach is hitus......2 weeks is a pretty long wait
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 22, 2010, 01:18:03 PM
The two week wait is almost done
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 27, 2010, 07:01:51 PM
and as predicted we have the start of a new arc. good? bad?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: AnimeDoodler on October 27, 2010, 07:44:40 PM
mmmrgh.. I smell Shippudean -_________-
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 27, 2010, 08:09:00 PM
lets just hope it stays readable .
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 28, 2010, 08:22:56 AM
Yeah. Fingers crossed.

Really i wouldn't have minded flash back episodes to clear up all the mysteries. I'd hate to see Bleach crash and burn.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on October 29, 2010, 12:11:18 PM
Not a great start. But too early to say anything.

http://www.mangareader.net/94-58301-2/bleach/chapter-424.html
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 29, 2010, 04:54:12 PM
well it's not bad. done pretty well i think actually. helps wrap up several things about the last arc and intrigue is aroused with the long haired guy getting introduced.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: AnimeDoodler on October 29, 2010, 11:05:02 PM
guh... the serie swould be much better if there was 60 pages, Ichigo gets his powers back, says hes going to go kick some tail, nad then leave the reader to decide the rest....
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Monsterful on October 30, 2010, 01:11:54 AM
Is it going still to continue? Even Though I stopped reading bleach like a year ago I Know what has happened so far (friends that still read tell me) so even after aizen and all that... there's GONNA BE MORE!? Well in that case this series will last AT LEAST 5 more years xD.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: matsurinoaoi on October 30, 2010, 03:46:37 PM
I guess it could be going into a shippuden direction, but part of me's glad that there's something new. After all of that war with Aizen, it's nice to settle down with the beginning of a new arc. Being back in Karakura is nostalgic in a way.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Loveless on October 31, 2010, 10:30:35 PM
It was an awesome start, it cleared up some things on what happened to the others. It also felt nostalgic, as if I was reading it from the beginning.

But you know, it would be lame if Ichigo suddenly get his powers back after something happens etc. I would like to see the author focus more on Ichigo's hollow powers. Speaking of that, isn't a bit confusing how he lost his hollow powers as well? I mean I'm pretty sure Zangetsu said that he would lose his Shinigami powers, nothing about his Hollow ones. Or are they connected somehow?

Anyhow, I heard that the new Arc was called "Lost Shinigami Representative". Doesn't seem like they are going to be lots of Hollow stuff. How disappointing.  :(

Ah well. Still looking forward to the next chap.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 01, 2010, 04:11:28 AM
I was wondering about that hollow thing too. It seems like a plot hole. I think Lost Shiningami Representative means that new character. I'm guessing that means him. After all this chapter was named 'Lost Agent'.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on November 01, 2010, 10:10:23 AM
we'll see in a few days i guess. but the fact that he had a badge means it's the new guy i think.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on November 01, 2010, 11:39:24 AM

I think we can count on Bleach Author. He's done a good job so far except for boring dialogs.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on November 01, 2010, 12:23:53 PM
the dialogue isnt bad. its very shounen for sure. but i think a lot of it has to do with the translator. since i've seen a single chapter both have very simplistic dialogue and very deep and intricut dialogue with the message still being the same.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Loveless on November 01, 2010, 10:04:10 PM
I was wondering about that hollow thing too. It seems like a plot hole. I think Lost Shiningami Representative means that new character. I'm guessing that means him. After all this chapter was named 'Lost Agent'.

Yeah! Exactly! But I hope it isn't a plot hole. It feels as if Kubo is overlooking it. But then again maybe he's going to save it for the ending.

Yup, we pretty much know that this Arc is about that new character, but I feel as if it'll have something to do with Ichigo getting his powers back. We'll just have to wait to see what happens.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 03, 2010, 04:54:33 PM
http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-chapter-438-page-1.html

Hmmm, i'm actually enjoying the story pacing, Tite definately knows the way to go slow, and i'm loving it.
At the moment Ishida is officially the favorite character... though he looks real evil here...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on November 06, 2010, 08:44:12 AM
What Ishida doing reminds me early chapters of Bleach. Just like Ichigo before getting all those death god powers.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on November 18, 2010, 01:24:02 PM
Anyone read Bleach chapter 427 ?

Ururu has grown and now she looks bit like Rukia !
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on November 18, 2010, 05:42:48 PM
a tad bit i guess. i'm glad though that this doesnt seem to be just some random filler arc thing. looks like some actual plot may take place
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on November 18, 2010, 10:41:31 PM
Well it seems this time story is about Ichigo's family. I guess finally we ll able to see the history behind his father.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 20, 2010, 06:52:46 PM
Yeah i'm surprised at the growth but the everything looks a-okay! Looks like ichigo's sister is a soul reaper...

The chapter is looking sinister and interesting! I wonder what secrets there are... hmm.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 26, 2010, 03:16:47 PM
Well. Looks like Karins become a shiningami. And the concept of hells gonna be explored. Things are getting interesting!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on November 26, 2010, 05:29:13 PM
i dont think she's actually doing shinigami stuff per say. just getting stuff to help her deal with the spirits taht are bugging her.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 26, 2010, 05:36:35 PM
That'd be a killjoy. Oh well. But I am annoyed by the two new characters. The guy looks way too much like FMA's Fury whilst the girl has the annoying cliche 'short-tempered subordinate' cast. But no harm done overall, i guess.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 01, 2010, 02:02:23 PM
I'm really confused by this Bleach 'Hell Arc'...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: AnimeDoodler on December 01, 2010, 03:03:11 PM
yea...what is it?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 01, 2010, 03:23:00 PM
From what i dan make out of it its either something for an upcoming Bleach movie or maybe its the new arc's story? Either way i'm not getting a good vibe from it. Atleast show Soul society and put my mind at ease...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on December 01, 2010, 04:45:23 PM
the hell arc is a tie in to the new movie in which ichigo has to go to hell for some reason. the hell arc is simply setting up for the movie by tying it in with some of the other bleach cannon.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 01, 2010, 05:18:17 PM
Ooooh. I've actually never seen that done before. Phew! I thought the story was exploding into complete randomness.

Apparently they want ichigo's hollow for something of the other.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: [aero] on December 01, 2010, 07:18:15 PM
gah i was kinda hoping bleach would jsut kinda start with new characters and explore hell when you brought it up... there goes my interest again...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 01, 2010, 07:29:45 PM
Haha, sorry.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: AnimeDoodler on December 02, 2010, 05:52:49 PM
well... I smell BS... -w-
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on March 17, 2011, 06:45:52 AM
I agree with you.. lol.. i is most certainly a bad move to plant seeds of doubt in urhara after the amount of work he did in help defeat aizen near the end..   at first i was thinking perhaps tite kubo was just making it seem as though urahara has an ulterior motive which is fine...  but in this episode ichigo blattantly confessed that he think urahara may be a bad guy....  this is a bad move by tite kubo... 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 29, 2011, 08:42:27 AM
Well i think urahara is suspicious, i mean when you think of it he did make half the hogyouku, he did get Mayuri into his position (Which led to Ishida's grandfather to be butchered at a table, along with many other quincys) So yeah...

In any case it's all in the air, but i can't wait for swords to clash again. Right now it's all cloak n dagger.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on March 29, 2011, 01:14:10 PM
Well i think urahara is suspicious, i mean when you think of it he did make half the hogyouku, he did get Mayuri into his position (Which led to Ishida's grandfather to be butchered at a table, along with many other quincys) So yeah...

In any case it's all in the air, but i can't wait for swords to clash again. Right now it's all cloak n dagger.

he never intended that to happen ^   lol..   it's not like he wanted to get banished from soul society.. that was Aizens doing..  taking mayuri was a risk but its kinda obvious why he picked him.. mayuri was the only other person! ONLY other person who could succeed in him in the position of head of the shinigami Research Institute! BUT... Mayuri is for a lack of a better word INSANE! so why did the Captain Commander let him take over as the Head of the Shinigami Research Institute?? he had no obligation to keep it running??? he was absolutely within his right to close the operation! i mean Urahara was the founder! and he was banished...
And also why would the captain commander and the other shinigami's turn a blind eye to the mass gencide of a race of people.. the quincy! it was mentioned briefly in an episode! the Quincy were upsetting the balance or something like that! What it is, is that when i shinigami kills a hollow its soul is set free and they go to the soul society.. unless they're bad then they go to hell (this was also shown in an episode/chapter).. However Quincy when they kill Hollows everything is wiped out completely from existance soul and all. But this poses the Question! Why would they keep Ishida Uryu Alive? I mean they've slaughtered ALL of his people!! they practically admitted to him that they assissted in killing his grandfather! why don't they just finish the job! ALSO where is Ishida Uryu's resentment towards the soul society! it seems to have dissappeared!!!! I'm very upset with that!! in the battle with Mayuri and Szayel Aporro Granz.. the way the 2 were talking to each other it was like they were a comedy double act! absolutely pitiful!!!
anyways.. i think i've rambled for long enough.. i hope that answered your question!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 29, 2011, 03:25:16 PM
Yeah well it was annoying the way they talked to eachother but i think the comedy was exaggerated in the anime. And i think kubo did a good job making the whole situation grim in the way Szayel Apporro was murdered. I mean, centuries of pain... eish...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on March 29, 2011, 04:51:03 PM
Yeah well it was annoying the way they talked to eachother but i think the comedy was exaggerated in the anime. And i think kubo did a good job making the whole situation grim in the way Szayel Apporro was murdered. I mean, centuries of pain... eish...

the comedy was just as bad in the manga.. i read the manga too.. lol..
i agree the fight between Szayel Apporro and Mayuri for the most part was good and the 2 characters really complimented each other... BUT the stuff that was going on in and around the battle was just pute lunacy and it's unforgivable!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Paulis1tp on March 29, 2011, 05:43:56 PM
Hey!!! What does all of You think about new chapters and the Fullbringers? :D I also wonder if the arrancars will be baack... I hope sooo!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 30, 2011, 03:13:25 PM
I think the arrancar arc is all cut up and done. But hey, who knows. If you miss them just watch the episode advertising the Hell Arc.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 16, 2011, 12:17:55 PM
I think i'm liking the progress. Ichigo is cool as always. So far there isn't a sign of epicness but i'm sure it'll get there. So i'll stick with Bleach after all
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: dawood on April 17, 2011, 03:07:42 PM
I think i'm liking the progress. Ichigo is cool as always. So far there isn't a sign of epicness but i'm sure it'll get there. So i'll stick with Bleach after all

I think you must be reading a completely different manga than me.. cos the bleach i'm reading is sh*t!!!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 17, 2011, 07:17:23 PM
you mean it's the sh*t

Mind you i'm not keeling over in awe. It's just fun for simple reading.
Title: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 16, 2011, 05:16:52 PM
Um... it's a bit odd but there are no more topics in the Bleach thread... Oh well...


The british fullbringer is really a great character. Actually, i'm liking the return to action. And i don't know if this is true but i think Kubo's English has become English. Lately his titles are a-okay.

There is so much to see, namely why rukia was defending ichigo or something.

Plus, the action is just cool.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: everlastin01 on May 16, 2011, 08:26:20 PM
so what are we talking about here just bleach stuff
making sure before typing something wrong
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 16, 2011, 08:41:55 PM
it's discussion about what's happening in the story at current basically.

and yeah. the action so far has had a different feel to it really. it's been less about big fights and more about the singular movements of the pieces. if that metaphor made any sense.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on May 16, 2011, 11:14:11 PM
I still read every chapter I have to admit, I'm not enjoy it like before. Kind of bored with it. Maybe because lack of action.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 17, 2011, 04:38:48 AM
Yeah it's not on the top of my list any more but i'm still very interested in it.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 09, 2011, 09:01:58 PM
latest chapter = win? i think so.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 21, 2011, 07:25:32 AM
I dunno which chapter your referring to but THIS latest chapter? Or lemme just say lately? Win, win win.

Ichigo looks badass again, and things are interesting. Guess Bleach didn't lose it after all.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 21, 2011, 01:25:01 PM
at the time i was refering to when he got his eyes slashed so he could "see" i mean that is actually cool. not some angsty "if i believe hard enough i can do it" kinda training.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 27, 2011, 08:12:45 AM
Very true!. That was a shock! but a welcome one. I Didn't expect things to get serious that fast, and the latest chapter... i hate it how bleach villains are so sure of themselves.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 27, 2011, 01:25:11 PM
but it makes you wonder. i mean the dude seems a pretty dangerous. maybe even more than aizen. power's wise at least. i mean yeah tricking somebody is pretty good but making them think your best buds for life? that's pretty harsh.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 28, 2011, 05:55:53 PM
No kidding, it's freaky how he managed to do it anyway. I may understand Chad getting stabbed but the other gang of Fullbringers seemed more reliable. I mean seriously even the old watch guy?
And why was Ishida just slashed?

Sadly, it seems Urahara and Ichigo's dad are dealing with something else. I do wish they'd indicate whether the shiningami's voice was male or female  though, it'd do a heck of a lot to ease my mind
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 28, 2011, 05:56:45 PM
guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 01, 2011, 12:15:02 PM
http://read.mangashare.com/Bleach/chapter-454/page001.html

I was getting that annoying depressing 'what's the point?' vibe again concerning manga and anime but this chapter really hypes me up. Didn't expect ichigo to say this. All this is really enthralling! I wanna be able to draw and write manga so badly right now...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 01, 2011, 02:39:03 PM
indeed. i know a lot of people thought bleach was dead but more than anything i think kubo was just tired of the old story line and wanted to move onto this
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 27, 2011, 03:15:03 PM
chapter 458 -

what



the



*censored*?!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 27, 2011, 03:43:06 PM
Your telling me it's already out??! Let me see this!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 27, 2011, 03:43:41 PM
it is on the site i use. bleachexile.com
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 27, 2011, 04:06:24 PM
Ah man. What the hell? I did not expect that at all.

*censored*....
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 27, 2011, 04:20:34 PM
i know right?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 31, 2011, 08:40:37 AM
This latest chapter pisses me off so much i keep on re-reading it. And here's a food for thought: Coryn sken drawn by tite kubo. Come on don't tell me that thought doesn't cross your mind!

Oh, and since i'm so talkative today despite Bleach falling into the 'shounen fighting manga' niche i still find it awesomely awesome. I wonder why?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 31, 2011, 01:57:15 PM
because while bleach can't really escape its genre. it's kinda pushing it around a bit atm? i mean seriously. i really enjoyed this last chapter. cause while this new guy may not be like overly powerful. his ability makes him quite possibly the deadliest character yet. which considering how most battle manga work this type of character falls into the minority. and isn't usually pushed into a main role.

also yes. that had crossed my mind. and despite how awesome that would be. it's pretty much a pipe dream.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 01, 2011, 01:06:43 AM
Sadly...

Your comment is spot on. He is obviously the loser in fights but he's ability keeps biting back really hard. I remember not thinking much about him at first, i mean, the now-traitor wasnt one bit scared of him, during that first meeting. Well guess we still gotta wait n see what happens.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 03, 2011, 02:47:36 PM
Whoahoahoahoa!!! *censored*ING AWESOME! TITE KUBO IS A MASTER MANGAKA. ALL HAIL! ALL HAIL!

Listen to this while reading the chapter.

I shouted out how awesome this was. Read. Now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjckZpcbZUg

Listening to this at the same time'd help. In The End remix from their Reanimation album.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 03, 2011, 03:23:00 PM
*falls to knees. tears streaming down face. midievil monks sing in the background. it's like a religious experience*
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 04, 2011, 12:57:49 AM
Right? RIGHT?!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on August 08, 2011, 02:00:50 PM
So Ichigo is with his  Shinigami powers again ?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 08, 2011, 02:20:04 PM
something like that? it kinda looks like the fullbring and shinigami powers mixed.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on August 08, 2011, 02:24:19 PM
Well Rukia had her sword though Ichigos chest so I think it has some kind of meaning.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 08, 2011, 02:32:40 PM
well she had that weird glowing sword throw his chest. not her normal one. so there's that too. really it all raises several questions
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on August 08, 2011, 02:35:00 PM
Did you notice the end ?  Ichigo with Shinigami dress and with his usual huge sword. He didn't have those while playing with Fullbring.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 08, 2011, 03:07:13 PM
of course i noticed ze end >.< what are we even talking about here? look closely at his wrists, neck, and the shape of the sword. all things that were present in the fullbring. that's why i say they mixed
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 09, 2011, 10:48:38 AM
Seriously? That'd be great. I thought it was just a different Zangetsu. I wonder how he will resolve that. Since Zangetsu disappeared and all.

Also what was with the talk about 'taking away ichigo's future?' Do they mean the burden of being a shiningami or something deeper.

Honestly i miss his fullbring powers they were really refreshing. And as cool as his inner hollow was i hope it doesn't return.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 11, 2011, 08:32:59 AM
Btw, scratch the above statement. I'm enjoying it like heck now.

Heads up. It seems i've located the missing topic...


In any case i can't wait for Bleach 460. I really cant
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 11, 2011, 12:13:47 PM
hmm...that you have. perhaps lets just stick to the new one though. since it's in the bleach manga section after all. hmmm....lets see if i can move a stickeed topic.

EDIT: that would be a yes.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 11, 2011, 12:38:29 PM
ah. great.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 18, 2011, 03:06:53 PM
Finally! After a long wait! Go read new chapter now!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 18, 2011, 11:52:52 PM
did. still loving it.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 20, 2011, 08:21:13 PM
I'm thinking those people poured in their reitsu because they're the onces Ichigo has scarred with Zangetsu, but... a certain ice captain... i don't think ichigo ever fought with him... or did he?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 21, 2011, 03:32:09 AM
no. i'm thinking more that just pouring enough energy in resparked his powers or some such.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 26, 2011, 02:38:49 PM
Yup. you were right. Figures.

Anyhow bleach is awesome, for anyones information. I can no longer tolerate any critisicm towards it. I'm... a fan...

Our new villan seems very troublesome this time around.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 09, 2011, 02:02:56 PM
http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/463

... Kenpachi is a mother *censored*ing troll
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 09, 2011, 02:39:40 PM
*censored*ing love that guy
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 13, 2011, 08:58:39 PM
*censored*

yes

byakuya
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 14, 2011, 03:17:38 PM
He's just so friggin awesome
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 21, 2011, 05:36:44 PM
Ah man. Renji just gained some respect from me. Understatement. He's f-ing awesome!

Loving the troll thing that's going on here. Seriously if kubo is sticking to story they don't stand a chance... Except maybe the guy fighting Ichigo right now... he looks epicly evil on the cover.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 22, 2011, 12:43:33 AM
yeah. but even still. ichigo got a lot more bad ass. loving this *censored*.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 22, 2011, 07:04:55 AM
Hell yeah. But it's freaking annoying how all the trolls are like 'oh so boring' and 'oh i miss aizen ichigo beat him way too easily it's unrealistic for someone training  3 years balblablabla' Seriously this is fiction! What the hell do they want? Philosophy?

I dunno. I'm loving the way things are going.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 22, 2011, 11:42:29 AM
well there trolls and therefore stupid to begin with. i mean he's already far more badass then all the other vice captains. i mean he achieved bankai already for god's sake. it's not unreasonable for him to be able to kick the crap out of a human. special powers non withstanding.

have to add though. loved the bit about hisagi. poor guy needs more screen time.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 22, 2011, 02:41:27 PM
Haha yeah no kidding. Brought a motorcycle to soul society hahaha... You saw the other pages? Looks like they've got the voice actors all geared up. The current arc is almost done then? Or is it already finished?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 22, 2011, 04:51:07 PM
nearly finished it looks like. been noticing though that the filler arcs have been having strong starts then kinda just falling away. still an improvement i guess
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 28, 2011, 06:37:53 PM
damn toshiro became *censored*ing cold. pun not intended
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 28, 2011, 09:42:19 PM
... brrrr
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 05, 2011, 05:09:57 PM
Toushiro cold as always...

surprised at the next guys weapon being broken but i guess fullbrings are monsters like that, being specialized in one thing.

Not overly hyped about it but i enjoyed the chapter nevertheless. Now to wait another week *sigh
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 05, 2011, 05:40:04 PM
well. at least we know that ikkaku is still *censored*ing crazy. and yeah. the hype may be coming down a bit. but hey. you can't keep it up that high forever
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 05, 2011, 05:50:55 PM
Yeah true, it wouldn't be good for my health.

But man, that take down must've hurt real bad. I lol'd at the end quote
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 06, 2011, 12:07:37 PM
Oh yes, i've got this theory... I think Ginjou is Ichigo's brother.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 06, 2011, 12:09:58 PM
sounds kinda out there. plausible. but out there.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 12, 2011, 03:25:03 PM
book of the end is terrifying.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 12, 2011, 04:34:43 PM
^ THIS.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 21, 2011, 01:52:19 PM
Tsukishima is still a troll

http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/46195080/1
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 21, 2011, 02:34:49 PM
yup.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: EvilCommie on October 21, 2011, 04:00:10 PM
I have completely lost interest in Bleach... yet im reading it every week...

Started tumbling through One Piece instead >.>
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 21, 2011, 04:11:34 PM
Man you better get the interest back. It's epic. I'm very unhappy with One Piece as a weekly manga. I really enjoyed it when i had 50 volumes to catch up to. It's so centered on storyline i can't handle week by week. But still, it's awesome. Well deserving of being in the big three.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 21, 2011, 07:44:24 PM
don't see how this new arc has not re-interested you. i mean seriously.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: EvilCommie on October 22, 2011, 02:33:15 AM
Well i dunno, really. I have been trying over and over, and i do actually read it. I just dont like this new arc. But, ill prolly continue to read it though. But i have saved myself some time by not watching the anime anymore.

On the note of One Piece, im wathcing the anime while doing other stuff. Having one eye at it. And i really like the characters. Im at like 150 so a couple left.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: annhu2011 on October 27, 2011, 05:17:26 AM
where is my Bleach 470 ??!!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 27, 2011, 07:28:06 AM
Exactly!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: EvilCommie on October 27, 2011, 08:52:57 AM
Oh ye, they haven't released it yet...

And none of the other manga i follow has released something...

This gonna be a boring week.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 27, 2011, 09:59:45 AM
where is my Bleach 470 ??!!

hey welcome to mangaraiders. why don't you make a topic in the welcome center and introduce yourself!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 27, 2011, 05:12:29 PM
Ah man, not that it relates to the particular chapter but i feel all the more that bleach is awesomeness.

mangastream.com/read/bleach/99409630/1
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: everlastin01 on November 05, 2011, 11:52:20 AM
espada number 1 stark
He is the one i like........
the scariest one is death.....
and this is way off topic
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on November 05, 2011, 01:35:29 PM
a wee bit. also like a year and a half late.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 05, 2011, 03:40:15 PM
Yeah o.o

Just re-read the entire bleach again for today, loved every moment of it. Also noticed things fall into place more than people say they don't.

Also feel sorry for fullbringers. Except Watch guy. he was a troll indeed. Seriously loving this arc.

AND!

Ginjou is totally ichigo's brother!

Big sword = check
Energy attack = check
Parent attacked by hollow = check (I mean, isshin or the mother obviously.)
His sirname... Kuugo. Sounds like a knock off from 'Kurosaki'

Then there's this: Daughters! One orange haired and one black haired. Then they'rd be sons: One orange haired and one black! Ginjou, ginjou ginjou!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on November 05, 2011, 05:10:02 PM
yeh. been hearing this one a lot recently. i'm thinking if it happens though ginjou would only be his half brother. i mean who knows how long isshin's been kicking it down on earth.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 05, 2011, 06:24:48 PM
Yeah sorta got depressed when other people thought it too. I'd have loved to shout it to the internet heavens 'first! Look at this time stamp! I SAID, LOOK AT THIS TIMESTAMP!"
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 09, 2011, 06:16:20 PM
http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/472

kenpachi would be proud
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on November 09, 2011, 06:44:22 PM
ah damn. byakuya turned even more badass.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 02, 2011, 11:37:26 AM
Getting to read 3 consecutive chapters of bleach = bliss.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 02, 2011, 11:44:40 AM
Just read the latest chapter and bleach is officially *censored*ing awesome.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on December 02, 2011, 12:12:58 PM
that....was too *censored*ing awesome for words
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on December 07, 2011, 03:19:56 PM
not entirely sure what i just read. but it was pretty *censored*ing awesome.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 07, 2011, 03:30:40 PM
What? Already? Let me see this
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 07, 2011, 03:39:42 PM
*censored*. JUST. MAN. DID YOU SEE THAT EPIC COOLGUYSDON'TLOOKATICHIGO'STROLLING?! DID YOU SEE THIS *censored*! DID YOU SEE THIS?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: pumpkin13 on December 24, 2011, 11:33:58 AM
Tsukishima had a ridiculously hax badass ability that Kubo totally failed to capitalise on. Apparently the character and his ability have been floating around for a while. IMO he would have been far better off as a Shinigami supporting Aizen. Imagine what Aizen and Tsuki could do between Aizen's Kyouka Suigetsu and Tsukishima's memory/history warping.

The Fullbringer fights were lame IMO. Most of them were over so quickly they're not even worth mentioning.

All I can say is that I'm glad the next chapter will see this arc finished, then Kubo can move back on to some stuff that really matters.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 24, 2011, 11:53:17 AM
I really don't understand why people hated this arc. I mean, Ichigo finally got back his powers, and the time skip was handled pretty well. His new look is amazing enough to warrant this arc, and the fullbringers are only human compared to the shiningami. I'd be much more unrealistic if Kenpachi got bloodied in his 'fight'. And Renji has all the reason to be that ridiculously powerful. Kubo did a good honest job.

As for Tsukishima that thought did occur to me, but i imagine he and Ginjou hated all shiningami, so taking Aizen's side would be hypocritical.

I loved this arc, and i'm still interested in this direction the story is taking. I'm tired of Aizen. He did his deed and he lost.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on December 24, 2011, 01:08:34 PM
i'll side with lego on this one. and while i fully support you being able to have your own opinion. points off for using IMO. specially with big capital letters.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 24, 2011, 01:17:54 PM
Eek i hope i didn't sound angry or anything. That's my opinion too p13
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: pumpkin13 on December 24, 2011, 03:42:52 PM
Coming from Bleach Exile, we get a lot of people who try and state their opinion as fact, hence why IMO becomes a standard part of Bleachean discussional vocabulary lol.

When I was talking about Tsukishima being with Aizen, I didn't mean that he would side with him as a Fullbringer. My point was that Kubo had said the idea for Tsukishima/character design had been around for a while, and I think he would have been far better had Kubo created him as a shinigami rather than a fullbringer.

I have several issues with the arc.

- Its detached-ness from the rest of the series. To me it feels like a Filler arc (filler, in a manga?). Basically like Kubo tagged it on.

- Not directly related but how Kubo finished up the Aizen arc, thought it felt rushed and poorly pieced together, which ties into the beginning of this arc. It just feels weird... I mean, imagine if in One Piece, they found the One Piece, then the manga continued with some minor side arc? Or in Naruto, Naruto defeats the badguys, has his confrontation with Sasuke and becomes Hokage, then the manga continues after that? Aizen was meant to be the big badguy.

- The point about the fullbringers not being as powerful, yeah I agree with you, one would expect their powers to not be as strong. But even with Ichigo's stolen power boost up... Renji was playing around with the hilt of his sword against Jackie. It's incredibly poor writing from a plot construction point of view, because there simply isn't any dramatic tension. We know the good guys are freaking awesome powerful, we know they'll win (it's Bleach, the good guys never die for a start), but even then, there's not even the slighted doubt that they would ever encounter any difficulty. Byakuya's fight was the only vaguely interesting one and it was concluded in such an obvious way to circumnavigate Tsukishima's power. Dramatic Tension and the sense that the good guys have to strive against overpowering odds is what keeps Shounen going, keeps them interesting. Bleach has simply lost that, totally and utterly... UNLESS Kubo now makes Soul Society badguys again.

- Ichigo's new look doesn't justify the new arc alone at all. Yeah it's ok. But really, have you noticed how OFTEN Kubo "introduces" new looks... Ichigo was getting new looks like every 5 chapters or so. It started with Ulquiorra, and became really noticeable with Aizen going through all his (quite frankly unnecessary, not to mention poorly designed) transformations. He just seems to be changing their looks on a whim, and making up an excuse to do it (which is totally what Ulquiorra's Segunda Etapa was, his original design for his first release was so lame he decided to redesign it and make up a reason for the change in appearance and I would hazard it was the same for Yammi Rialgo's second power up after releasing, cus his dinosaurus look was so lame).

- We now have three different explanations for Chad's powers. First it was because Ichigo's vast uncontrolled power was leaking out and onto Chad. Then it was because of the Hougoukyu. Now it's because Chad's parents were attacked by a Hollow before he was born.  He seems to be retconning information on a whim in exactly the same way he's changing appearances at a whim (he did it earlier in the arrancar arc, first having Grimmjow's fraccion themselves state that they were Adjuchas, then having Aizen state that they were Gillian, even though we had an entire flashback showing that they couldn't have been just gillian...

There are far bigger and more interesting things to be checking out, a whole wealth of characters that Kubo could develop and improve upon, rather than making up a new bunch, introducing them, making up a halfhashed plot for them then killing them off quickly without any dramatic tension at all.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 24, 2011, 04:01:33 PM
As a reader, i really have this philosophy in my mind that if the author clearly knows what they're doing and have something solid, critizing the plot on how i want it to turn out would be pointless. For example, I wish Code Geass left a certain someone alive, but within the reality of the plot, that person died. Cowboy Bebop, and Naruto and to One Piece. These are all undoubtedly great stories, and therefore whatever happens, has happened. I don't see the point of nitpicking details and saying 'ah, this is unrealistic' or 'the story should probably end here'.

Aizen was indeed the big cheese, and the climax was huge. Maybe it ended it, but really, think of it, what of the characters themselves? Is it really justifiable that bleach is based upon Aizen? I don't think so. There's so much to explore in the series, so much more, and it's Shiningami, Hollow, Ichigo and Soul Society. These elements are an ever revolving story piece, and every element no matter how epic should be studied with much interest.

Kubo has never been the narrator type, so he only makes allusions to things instead of spelling them out and writing out stories. His art is more action oriented. One piece has the same amount of chapters and has that amount of story simply because the author chose to give it a lot of dialogue. Bleach has the same amount of story, but only that the author prefers to be vague about all of it.

I can't help you in the character design department, since that's a matter of taste. Frankly i wish i had half of his creative genius in design.

Chad's powers aren't that much of a problem. This is how it is. Hougoukyu > Hollow attack + Ichigo > Chad. Nothing has been definately mentioned about Chad, and his parents don't seem to be alive. It just hasn't been shown, and frankly, Kubo is just like that. Zero squad... vague allusions to things. I mean, just look at the scenes of Gin noticing Aizen is a bad guy. I have no idea why Matsumoto was beaten up on the floor, or how Aizen got slackeys. It's the whole mystery that keeps me guessing and makes me enjoy the series.

Kubo definately has a lot planned for the series, and i'm afraid i got blown away by one too many impressive scenes and set backs to ever argue against Bleach. Maybe that will come along, but i'm just... to be honest. A fan.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: pumpkin13 on December 24, 2011, 04:45:08 PM
As a reader, i really have this philosophy in my mind that if the author clearly knows what they're doing and have something solid, critizing the plot on how i want it to turn out would be pointless. For example, I wish Code Geass left a certain someone alive, but within the reality of the plot, that person died. Cowboy Bebop, and Naruto and to One Piece. These are all undoubtedly great stories, and therefore whatever happens, has happened. I don't see the point of nitpicking details and saying 'ah, this is unrealistic' or 'the story should probably end here'.

Aizen was indeed the big cheese, and the climax was huge. Maybe it ended it, but really, think of it, what of the characters themselves? Is it really justifiable that bleach is based upon Aizen? I don't think so. There's so much to explore in the series, so much more, and it's Shiningami, Hollow, Ichigo and Soul Society. These elements are an ever revolving story piece, and every element no matter how epic should be studied with much interest.

Kubo has never been the narrator type, so he only makes allusions to things instead of spelling them out and writing out stories. His art is more action oriented. One piece has the same amount of chapters and has that amount of story simply because the author chose to give it a lot of dialogue. Bleach has the same amount of story, but only that the author prefers to be vague about all of it.

I can't help you in the character design department, since that's a matter of taste. Frankly i wish i had half of his creative genius in design.

Chad's powers aren't that much of a problem. This is how it is. Hougoukyu > Hollow attack + Ichigo > Chad. Nothing has been definately mentioned about Chad, and his parents don't seem to be alive. It just hasn't been shown, and frankly, Kubo is just like that. Zero squad... vague allusions to things. I mean, just look at the scenes of Gin noticing Aizen is a bad guy. I have no idea why Matsumoto was beaten up on the floor, or how Aizen got slackeys. It's the whole mystery that keeps me guessing and makes me enjoy the series.

Kubo definately has a lot planned for the series, and i'm afraid i got blown away by one too many impressive scenes and set backs to ever argue against Bleach. Maybe that will come along, but i'm just... to be honest. A fan.

Lol you see I'm not sure if I believe anymore that Kubo DOES know what he's doing. It sure as hell isn't clear...

Aizen was indeed the big cheese, and the climax was huge. Maybe it ended it, but really, think of it, what of the characters themselves? Is it really justifiable that bleach is based upon Aizen? I don't think so. There's so much to explore in the series, so much more, and it's Shiningami, Hollow, Ichigo and Soul Society. These elements are an ever revolving story piece, and every element no matter how epic should be studied with much interest.

On a forum partially designed towards helping people write better manga, I think this is a very important paragraph to assess. Simply put, the facets and interesting background elements as well as any character development and character exploration should be done largely prior to the characters accomplishing their goal/ defeating the big bad. Maybe a small amount of it can be done during the aftermath, as we see just how much all of what the characters have achieved has changed them/affected them. Lord of the Rings does the "aftermath" section very well, after defeating Sauron the Hobbits return to the Shire to find it having fallen under the tyranny of Saruman, and have to deal with all that they left behind, and what has happened to what they left behind whilst they were on their adventure (wasn't in the films).
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on December 24, 2011, 04:48:40 PM
Well don't forget that the Lord of the Rings was based on experiences in WWI and such. So while Tolken was a master at adapting it he didn't pull it out of thin air.

just my two cents.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 28, 2011, 10:40:13 AM
Bleach has broken new ground with this chapter.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on December 28, 2011, 01:55:03 PM
meaning that all of the bad guys weren't slaughtered wholesale?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 28, 2011, 04:42:41 PM
Yeah looks like it. Wonder what the hell the captains were doing. I'm actually surprised characters died
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on January 16, 2012, 03:53:33 PM
And Bleach officially reaches its new stage of maturity.

Really impressed with this chapter. It confirmed a certain thing i was sceptical about. But you never know... Orihime might just do something.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on January 16, 2012, 11:26:49 PM
i just think it's awesome some of the vizords got their old jobs back. makes me wonder what the rest of them are up to.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 03, 2012, 06:00:38 PM
Man, it amazes me to no end how there's a sudden influx of people saying how bleach is getting pointless and slow. Most of them basically say "We want philosphy! We want philosophy!"

Somehow people forgot how to appreciate action, and even then, bleach isn't known for it's straightforward lines. I can barely figure out Aizen or Gin, or Urahara.

Just kills me when i see those comments. Thankfully the stats don't lie, and i don't give a damn.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: pumpkin13 on February 05, 2012, 02:03:42 PM
LOTS of news out regarding Bleach and Kubo's plans for the upcoming arc, which is supposedly the final one (baring in mind Kubo has stated as far as he is concerned, there have only been two arcs so far, the Soul Society one and the Arrancar Arc which went from Ulquiorra and Yammi's arrival in the real world right up to Aizen being killed).

He has stated the next arc will shed light on the following things:

1. The mystery surrounding Ichigo's birth. This could be connected to the arrancars talking about "True Blood" and it seems from some of Kubo's comments that the similarity in appearance with Shiba Kaien, Rukia's former mentor, wasn't merely coincidence.
2. Sort of connected, Isshin's back story and his relationship with Ishida Ryuken.
3. Just who or what is the Soul King?
4. ZERO DIVISION/ ROYAL GUARD.
5. The bodies that Mayuri found in Szayal's secret laboratory.
6. Nell and apparently Grimmjow will be returning!? <waits for fangirl screams>
7. Apparently there is a Quincy Revival, and loads more quincy reappear, perhaps a second rebellion or something.

If this is the case, then Kubo still has plenty of opportunity to drag Bleach back from the brink for me. I'm looking forward to seeing how they all tie in,
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 05, 2012, 02:26:15 PM
Where do you even hear this news? It'd be great to know where for sure.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on February 05, 2012, 02:28:27 PM
makes sense for him to think like that with the arcs. since when you think about it the two would then break into three acts.

as for this upcoming stuff there isn't anything on the list i'm not excited for. though i'm especially interested in nell and grimmjow making a reappearance. cause *censored* it i love grimmjow.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 05, 2012, 02:31:11 PM
Indeed. It's great that those two aren't forgotten in the aether. Grimmjow's fight was just the greatest. Sure wish Uluquiorra would've survived as well though. Oh well.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: pumpkin13 on February 05, 2012, 05:09:23 PM
Where do you even hear this news? It'd be great to know where for sure.

One of the many source posts from over at Bleach Exile where I came here from.

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Kubo wants to write about when Kenpachi became a captain.

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Mayuri changed his hairstyle.

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The Spirit King itself

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The 0 Division

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The relationship between Urahara and Yoruichi.
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Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on February 05, 2012, 05:11:20 PM
that...quote is rather messy.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coach Fro on February 05, 2012, 08:24:16 PM
Need to get back on bleach. I'm missing so much stuff right now :(
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 06, 2012, 06:41:03 AM
Yeah messy for sure. But interesting . The meaning of things drawn on color pages? What things?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: pumpkin13 on February 07, 2012, 03:36:45 AM
that...quote is rather messy.

It's originally just the japanese characters which some one has translated and someone else has evidently copied and pasted it but the characters haven't come up on their system, then that's been circulated. Ohana just puts up quick summary of them in japanese, so a quick shorthand summary in japanese getting translated into english/engrish can look messy =P

Yeah, I was a little bemused by the idea of there being some sort of secret and underlying meaning strung through all the colour double pages...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on February 07, 2012, 06:25:09 AM
479 is the last Bleach Manga chapter I read. Couldn't  find anything after that.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 07, 2012, 10:42:15 AM
Yeah 480 is coming out tomorrow. I can't wait! Either that or the rumors that kubo had a heart attack are true... those really keep freaking me out.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on February 07, 2012, 01:03:15 PM
i think more likely he just needed some time to organize what's going to happen next. like usual hiatus's
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on February 07, 2012, 01:17:55 PM
I'll be honest said it on another board I think the full bringer arc was a bit too rushed. He introduced characters only to do away with the two most important ones and did not give a fully fleshed out story on why Ginjou did what he did.  I do have hope for this next arc though people are saying its his last but with all he has planned (from scanned interviews) he has a lot of back stories he is going to touch on and this arc  could span a good few years.  So I am hoping that it will be a good one looking forward to 480.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 08, 2012, 11:52:26 AM
Bleach... Is ending. It's in it's final arc.

I can't quite describe the feeling.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on February 08, 2012, 03:36:48 PM
it may be the end. but hey. i'm pretty sure it'll go down being as awesome as possible.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Monsterful on February 09, 2012, 10:44:06 AM
Bleach is ending? Woah hard to believe isn't it?

Well I kinda always had the feeling that among the big 3, Bleach was going to be the first one to end.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on February 09, 2012, 12:04:19 PM
well considering how long the first two arcs are. (in kubo's mind) i think we still have a few years left.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 09, 2012, 02:49:26 PM
I think Ishida's going to join the Quincy...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on February 09, 2012, 04:45:18 PM
you never know. he does hate shinigami and all that but i'm not sure if he'll go so far as to fight a war against them. i'm sure he will at first. but in the end he's a main character and a good guy. i can see a grudge match with mayuri though.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 09, 2012, 05:29:55 PM
Yeah im sort of still annoyed with Mayuri. He did torture Ishida's grandfather after all. And oh yeah, i mentioned ishida because i think that's him on the main cover...

I'm really going to be interested in the dynamics of archer based quincy vs sword fighting shiningami. And the bankai's of every single fighter available...

Really, it's the final arc, but i think there's a lot to be seen. The first two arcs took five years a piece, so we can always hope right?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 10, 2012, 10:04:18 AM
I doubt it. I like fairy tail but it's too young to take Bleach's place.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on February 10, 2012, 10:46:54 AM
I don't know what they could get to replace Bleach but I am sure they have a few years ahead of them. If we go by his main two arcs he could go another couple of years with this one.  My only issue with the start of 480 is he has this odd habit of adding in new characters that really aren't needed. With all the Shinigami that are present and accounted for to add two more to the pool is just over saturation to me.  I wont give away more to those who have not read it yet, just say it felt pointless to me to add them. Other then that it was an okay start my interest is piqued and cannot wait till 481  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on February 10, 2012, 02:47:01 PM
well looking at their designs i don't get the impression they'll be main characters or anything. more just side bits.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on February 17, 2012, 10:51:07 AM
So 481 was a bit scattered for me, he had 3 different things going on and not enough focus (my opinion) on them. There are at least 3 major developments going on the biggest one being stuff going on in the Rukongai (dont want to ruin things for those who have not read it yet).  Needless to say though we have 2 new shinigami who will be camping out at Ichigo's to and one is extremely violent :/ still looking forward to this arc though looks like we have a return from arrancars to going to be a lot of things going down in Karakura town.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 17, 2012, 12:20:39 PM
I found it quite entertaining actually, and i've already made some assumptions i'm sure will be right regarding all the connections. I have a hunch about this new shiningami though, i think kubo's planning on pulling a Goku - Gohan. I think Ichigo's going to turn out to be a father figure and may probably die for sure or not become the main hero, and this new guy will take over as a main character.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on February 17, 2012, 12:35:06 PM
somehow i don't see that happening. i see it as more kubo going with the star wars route. 1st arc ichigo is knew to all of this. but by the end he's embroiled in the massive conflict. in the second arc he conflicted with his own inner self and skirts close to loosing himself to the dark side, and for the third he is finally the hero he's always been needing to be.

plus kubo seems to have a pretty strict policy against not killing those who don't deserve to die.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 17, 2012, 12:45:52 PM
Yeah, he's always dependable like that.

I really, really loved that splash page of the whole crew though, it was especially awesome when listening to some electronic music.

And on another note... Germans now? Kubo can pull off all sorts of characters can't he? And it's looking like... Hollow-Quincy? Now that's something different.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on February 17, 2012, 12:56:51 PM
no idea. they do both dress in white after all.

though germans make sense. the quincy were stated to be germanic in origin i do believe. and it's not like everything in hueco mundo wasn't spanish themed.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 17, 2012, 01:10:35 PM
Oh yeh. 'Lichtreigen' should've served as a clue to that. I just love kubo's thought process. As in: Spanish is mellow, so it'll fit hollows, and it did. Man's got game
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on February 17, 2012, 02:37:01 PM
cept grimmjow who was randomly french. but hey it's whatever.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 22, 2012, 03:41:05 PM
Well... things are looking hairy. Seems like kubo's going to jump right into it.

I love how non-chalant everyone was at the beginning, but things look like they'll really pick up.

not liking kubo's constant reminders of how serious things are. I suspect he's going to get some main characters killed. And i don't care what people think. I don't want that!!!!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on February 22, 2012, 04:06:53 PM
was thinking the exact same thing about being so non chalant. though still not sure about the dying. hell he didn't even kill aizen.

really just interested to know about the whole quincy with hollow mask thing we got going on.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 22, 2012, 04:10:38 PM
Yeh. Hogyouku? We'll see i guess.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on February 23, 2012, 10:26:04 AM
Well the new guy who showed up in Ichigo's room is not established as an enemy yet but has said hes not Arrancar and showed hes a Quincy. So I am thinking their is definitely survivors of the purge that happened thanks to Mayuri and that they are out for revenge.  I really do not want to give spoilers but 482 had me going big time especially the end. Cannot wait to see what happens in 483 (Yamamoto fans will want to read it for sure).
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 24, 2012, 10:22:17 AM
I thought those guys were Zero squad but then i noticed their shoes... Quincys love their pointy boots... Itd be nice if Ivan was an ally but i really doubt it.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on February 24, 2012, 10:50:34 AM
There has been speculation that he maybe an ally due to the way the last panel ended. Looks like war is being declared and maybe hes going to Ichigo and crew to see where they will stand? I just want to know what is up with the Rukongai. Bodies disappearing is no small thing.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on February 24, 2012, 01:14:48 PM
my guess is that the quincy are doing a flip flop of what mayuri did to them. experimentation on souls or something.

ass for Ivan i think he's going to end up as more of a middle man type character. not a friend but not entirely hostile? just going by how they started him as threatening but it was also at the same time kinda humerous.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 29, 2012, 11:34:19 AM
Quincy's are playing evil cards.

Sasakibe is so useless man. I've never seen him fight before, but it can't be helped.

I'm wondering about the attack ichigo did though... it changed color right? And judging from the cover page... Doesn't that mean... ?


btw, Ichigo becoming father figure? called it. It will totally end up that way. Sure hope this kids got what it takes. Don't even remember his name >...<
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on February 29, 2012, 12:27:43 PM
I think that quincy was trying to absorb Ichigo's power thats why he was egging him on to use his Bankai.  And I agree commented on another forums. Of all the people to kill off Yamamoto's vice captain does nothing for me. That character has always been a background lurker, I often wondered what he did to become worthy of being vc of the 1st and now hes dead..sigh I honestly didnt feel any impact from his death though it may piss Yamamoto off enough to incinerate the men threatening him.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on February 29, 2012, 03:39:07 PM
well...damn....
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 07, 2012, 01:13:26 PM
Oh man... that is NOT a kind looking person.

Kubo's characterization kicks ass as always.

Ichigo's getsuga burns like a a bitch doesn't it? I mean, look at that guy. I sure hope they're not making parallels with Ivan and Grimmjow, coz Ivan just pissed me off.

And what the hell is up with this Bankai business!? Intrigue XXXtra!!!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on March 07, 2012, 03:37:04 PM
I am thinking these ultra Quincy's can absorb Bankai which is a scary thought. And the king of them looks a lot like  captain Shunsui and in a interview Kubo said he was going to do a big thing about his past and why he wears a flower kimono over his captain uniform so I am sensing ties all over the place.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on March 07, 2012, 04:02:18 PM
so people with arrancar masks, quincy weapons, and can  do bankai.

is anyone else seeing a race of perfect killers bread from all three factions?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 07, 2012, 04:04:08 PM
Definately. It looks like there'll seriously be a massacre coming along. And how the heck did they get bankais?

Germans are so badass \o/

Wonder why Ichigo was immune? He's always has a charactersitic that makes him a trump card huh.

Did Kubo say anything about hollow ichigo returning?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on March 07, 2012, 04:06:24 PM
more than him being immune i think he just broke the attack. like when he smashed through aizen's kido with brute force alone.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 07, 2012, 04:11:12 PM
Ah yeah, it did start hurting him.

I wonder what the hell the king did to slice off his subordinate's arm though. That was... sudden.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on March 07, 2012, 04:17:26 PM
Yeah that part made me go wow he just lost his arm what the heck? And there has to be something between Sayzel experimenting in Hueco Mundo and Mayuri's dealings I am not surprised that these Quincy's are powerful. Something science like toyed with these beings and they are definitely strong. Strong enough to get into the Seretei without detection and leave just as quick.

And Ichigo's whole purpose seems to be to fight, access, adapt, then transcend what the enemy thinks he is capable of. So I can forsee while this enemy gives the Shinigami a run for their money them being in awe of Ichigo he has a specialness to him one that I hope will be explained with his father's past being reviled as well.  I dont know if Hollow Ichigo will return from what I thought him and Zangetsu before the final form was taken merged but that cover from 482 had scarmask on the hoodie so who knows it would be awesome to see him return though.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 07, 2012, 04:36:52 PM
Yeah, that guy is a character.

I shure hope this Yuuki kid has got what it takes though. I won't be patient with some useless shiningami. I expect epic power upgrades from him!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 31, 2012, 06:19:26 PM
Poor Sasakibe
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: pumpkin13 on April 04, 2012, 01:33:57 PM
Okay, new chapters already out (487 I believe it is). I really think we can get some good discussion going on this, since a decent part of this site is geared towards planning and plotting story etc.

To me the recent arc, whilst having its merits (upped pacing for example), structurally feels so incoherent its really actually nagging me every time I go to read a new chapter.

Just for reference I'm primarily using Vogler's "The Writer's Journey: Mythic Structure for Writers" as my ref material. It's an analysis of and how to write archetypal heroic adventure and how to deploy and plot it as well as character archetypes.

I dunno, just from random out of the blue appearance of Ivan in Ichigo's room, to the wanton butchering of Ivan and the other Vandenreich member by the Emperor, his whole general introduction, Nell conveniently falling out of the sky right on top of Ichigo (that mechanic felt SO forced, Ichigo is bored, so he decides to go out on a random patrol, she falls on him). Urahara suddenly appearing as the one with the means to allow them to go to Hueco Mundo as well was contrived. Kubo even tries to (and fails) tongue in cheek make fun of how forced his character entrances are by having Ichigo comment on how Urahara's arrival seemed timed slightly TOO perfectly and Urahara jokes that he was waiting outside the window for the right moment. Characters have been appearing because the plot NEEDS them to appear in order for there to be any action, rather than because the prior plot and action has smoothly generated their arrival.

This newest chapter actually has a great example of how Kubo could have tweaked the on scene action just a little to make the finale of the chapter (yeah more character arrivals) that bit more coherent. But I won't go into that until more people have replied to the thread and read the chapter.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 04, 2012, 03:57:37 PM
well i think he's kinda going for that feel at this point. cause he's already set up a time of just a few days till the end of everything. so it makes sense that everything is colliding in this cluster*censored* of stuff. plus its not like he hasn't relied on a sense of destiny and predetermined reality before. so i think he's just playing to that
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 04, 2012, 05:02:36 PM
I'm a bit worried that he's drawing faster than norm, and the line quality in this arc seemed very mechanic, like his assistants helped him more than usual, maybe because of his sickness? I dunno.

All in all though he did make it clear that he's heading for a definate end. I'm still all for the ride.
 I'm annoyed that those three survived ryuu jin jakka though.

Interesting quincy weapon. A sword which shoots projectiles huh.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 04, 2012, 08:38:32 PM
didn't yama specifically say he wasn't killing them though? mostly i'm just freaking out and hoping grimmjow shows up
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 05, 2012, 12:34:44 AM
Oh he did say he was giving them a light toasting. Harribel got pissed as though they were dead so i got a bit confused.

Grimmjow's apppearance will be one of the highlights that's for sure. He should seriously appear.

Is orihime's power limited? I thought she would try to heal some of the people, but since they're so many dead i guess she couldn't do that one by one...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 05, 2012, 12:39:52 AM
well i think we've established reanimation is out of her league. i mean pretty sure that got shown when she tried to heal ichigo after he got blasted by ulqiuora
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 05, 2012, 12:43:56 AM
I did consider that, but then there was the head blasted by grimmjow business and i changed my mind a little ...

but wait! I've got it! Remember she couldn't heal the wound (okay, more like 'hole') in ichigo because of uluqiorra's reiatsu? The Fires! Haha! Kubo is reliable i'm telling you. I bet the use of the reishi fires isn't going to be only in hueco mundo. They did say the reishi is compressed and all, so same inhibiting properties right?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 11, 2012, 02:42:45 PM
This new quincy guy is impressive.

Only 17 pages?!! WHY!? Kubo we need Moar!!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 11, 2012, 03:48:17 PM
have to say though. the chapters are a bit shorter. but he's definitely getting  a lot more into each of them. bleach is become a very fast paced manga.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 11, 2012, 04:16:28 PM
Yeap. I just hope the three beasts aren't dead. I was surprised by the fighting though. Guy got stabbed in the head. Yikes kubo. (Me likey)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 18, 2012, 05:39:40 PM
And here i was starting to doubt bleach. Excellent thought-meat kubo has dished out for us.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 18, 2012, 07:54:58 PM
indeed. i almost forgot how much of an evil bastard mayuri was.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: SwordHero16 on April 19, 2012, 12:42:09 AM
I wonder about the "Stern Ritter" (Star Knights) the Vandenreich Leader mentioned? Probabily could be the strongest members of the Vandenreich and could be the Quincy equlivent of the Espada?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 28, 2012, 04:08:19 PM
Holy shiz ichigo can do that with his bare hands?

And i must resubmit my hypothesis. Ishida might turn over to the dark side.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 28, 2012, 04:19:56 PM
still doubt it. but you know. good luck with that
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 28, 2012, 04:25:41 PM
I really do hope i'm wrong
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on April 30, 2012, 03:49:46 PM
So a war is about to launch I am truly excited to see all the Shinigami battle this Quincy threat.  Though I am worried about what side Ishida will ultimately choose. I have hopes for this arc though the beginning was scattered and made me wonder he did a lot of "off panel" stuff that made me leery but this latest chapter was well done and definitely has me looking towards 491.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 30, 2012, 04:17:39 PM
I really suspect that kubo's budget has had a cut. or his sickness is holding him back. I haven't read a 21 pager in some time now, and they used to come regularly.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on April 30, 2012, 04:20:53 PM
yep its definitely down to 17 pages lately if were lucky since at least one is the title page.  I was really upset with 489 due to that fight between Kirge and Harribel's faccion due to it being shown off panel what he did to them but he was sick around that time to I hope he is feeling better.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 30, 2012, 05:10:02 PM
the sickness probably does effect him. but a there has been a lot more work put into each panel as well i've noticed. so i'm thinking part of the drop in quantity is kubo trying to increase quality.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 30, 2012, 05:13:47 PM
Yeah true. And the thought keeps on returning to me. If there is any arc that deserves to be animated, it's this one. I have my fingers crossed that Bleach rides out the storm and finishes still as one of the big three. But even if that doesn't happen, i'm in for the long haul.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: SwordHero16 on May 04, 2012, 08:24:25 PM
Kubo is sick? Btw, what legomaestro said about Uryu, he might be with the Vandenreich since Kirge seems to know him and when Ichigo said that Uryu's arrows are weaker than Kirge's says that is impossible, meaning that Uryu is stronger than he expected.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: infinite87 on May 04, 2012, 08:35:33 PM
I really am enjoying the idea of the new Soul Reaper-Quincy war, seeing as the Quincy's are stronger and the death of squad 1 assistant captain followed which was the spark to the fire.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 05, 2012, 02:35:39 AM
Kubo is sick? Btw, what legomaestro said about Uryu, he might be with the Vandenreich since Kirge seems to know him and when Ichigo said that Uryu's arrows are weaker than Kirge's says that is impossible, meaning that Uryu is stronger than he expected.

i take it more to be that they're just keeping a file on ishida so to speak. I mean obviously the family set themselves away from this group of quincys. and Uryu always talked about being the last quincy. even though not technically so since his father. So that shows it's more of an ideological thing. a schism in the quincy order if you will.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 05, 2012, 05:33:42 AM
Sucks that it's gold week in japan though. I really can't wait for the latest chapter
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 12, 2012, 06:29:44 AM
Ugh, i hate Ayon, oh well.

Epic action as always, but i'm very, very impressed with how ichigo is taking all this in shikai form. This guy has really become uber-powerful.

I find it very interesting how he's always readable by his opponents though, and it seems he still has some things to learn (that getsuga would have really got the bastard good.)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 19, 2012, 11:32:04 AM
Balancer's Justice. Another great chapter.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Fulgrate on May 19, 2012, 07:24:43 PM
LOL, you guys are two weeks ahead of me? D: I'm reading Shonen Jump's English releases which is ALMOST the latest from SJ japan. www.sjalpha.com

They even have interviews with the Shonen Jump authors on the website.  :thumbsup:

I'm basically at the chapter where Ichigo has met Opie Kilge.

BLEACH FAN MANGA!

http://api.photoshop.com/v1.0/accounts/58b333c444514870ad19b5d2225dee4f/assets/69103549f0d64dc3a2213552a3e22aec/renditions/1024.jpg?md=1337468372000

http://api.photoshop.com/v1.0/accounts/58b333c444514870ad19b5d2225dee4f/assets/783b8f4e104049e1bc491b76ce2a54a2/renditions/1024.jpg?md=1337468380000

http://api.photoshop.com/v1.0/accounts/58b333c444514870ad19b5d2225dee4f/assets/9c5eeda052614fe8b15e444d87a5e22a/renditions/1024.jpg?md=1337468386000

http://api.photoshop.com/v1.0/accounts/58b333c444514870ad19b5d2225dee4f/assets/c28bb739a6594fb99c1685a1cf400a5f/renditions/1024.jpg?md=1337468392000

The art is rough because I'm strapped for time. :{

I've been reading the past several issues of Bleach every few days and somehow ended up drawing this fan manga. :} The story is just that good! It makes you wonder whats gonna happen next or who's gonna pop up!

Also, Grimmjow in Segunda Etupa form.
http://api.photoshop.com/v1.0/accounts/58b333c444514870ad19b5d2225dee4f/assets/f967f258c5af4b90b32d089c11b7c4d6/renditions/1024.jpg?md=1337435304000

Bleach is awesome!

I think Grimmjow is gonna appear, even Kubo stated that Grimmjow is alive and might be an ally.

You know he's gonna come back, and its gonna turn out he has another release after Ressureccion, and he's gonna probably OHKO some somewhat powerful Quincy, but then he'll fight a STERN RITTER and the fight will probably at an equal level?  :noidea:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 19, 2012, 08:40:33 PM
Hahaha! Nice comic! But O.O at the segunda Etupa form sketch. It looks awesome!!!

Haha yeah i can't wait for grimmjow's appearance as well. He will probably come when things are really bad, and it makes sense for a hollow to hate quincy because they completely kill them rather than shiningami. (Fingers crossed that Uliquiorra has been 'purified' and is hanging around somewhere in Soul Society)

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 20, 2012, 01:05:37 AM
I definitely want to see Grimmjow back as well. I can see him jumping in to stop an attack on Ichigo, whist delivering a smooth "I'm the one who get's to kill him" line.

One problem with your Ulquiorra idea though. The move that actually ended up killing him was hollow ichigo's point blank cero, which destroyed basically every internal organ he had. We also know that it's the zonpakto that actually purifies a hollow. Slash other shinigami powers i'm assuming since they've killed hollows that way. But it's never been exactly said what happens when hollow's kill hollow's if they eat another then the soul just get's combined or something so no harm done to the balance there i guess. I'm assuming the souls dissotiate when the hollow dies via shinigami. But as for death by cero, who knows.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 20, 2012, 07:57:41 AM
Oh crap. Yeah i forgot about that.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Fulgrate on May 24, 2012, 10:46:19 AM
Here is what I think SOME of the Stern Ritter might look like. Well, the blonde guy has been shown from the side already, but heres the rest from what info I managed to get.

(http://api.photoshop.com/v1.0/accounts/58b333c444514870ad19b5d2225dee4f/assets/30265a2261df461e9eff1f6255af563d/renditions/1024.jpg?md=1337828547000)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 24, 2012, 11:59:34 AM
Haha, nice rendering. I'm very interested in the female quincy and the one with the punk hair. The blonde guy seems to be annoyingly aizen like sheesh.

Seeing how Kirgie Opie is this good, i really think the shiningami are badly outmatched. I doubt any one without a bankai could take that guy on, let alone the quincy stern ritter.

Buckbeard looks ready to murder. Sure hope yuuki makes it out alive.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 24, 2012, 02:24:03 PM
i just cant help but feel that we're going to start seeing stuff in bleach we've never seen before. Cause it looks to me like a crap ton of the 13th division is about to get wiped off the face of the earth
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 24, 2012, 03:56:01 PM
Sure looks like it. I mean, what kind of initial attack was that? P.P They were obliterated
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 30, 2012, 04:54:34 PM
HOLY FREAKING *censored* BLEACH 495
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 30, 2012, 05:21:01 PM
well....balls....
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 30, 2012, 05:43:18 PM
seriously dude. Coryn, you had better not do that to your characters in the last arc. For goodness sakes.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 30, 2012, 07:36:35 PM
I make no such promises concerning any of the infinitely possible plot developments.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 31, 2012, 02:35:19 PM
Crap
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on May 31, 2012, 03:55:39 PM
Okay finally caught up with this manga :( Kira being owned has me going "What!" This invasion should be interesting I just hope the Quincy's are not going to completely face roll the Soul Society, they are a military force after all and train hard I want to see some good fights amongst the Captains against this threat.

It is definitely a dark turn for Bleach though looking forward to see where this goes.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 31, 2012, 04:23:03 PM
Yeah seriously. I mean how? I had high hopes for those characters...

Over 1000 deaths in 7 minutes. What the hell.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on May 31, 2012, 04:47:21 PM
I know I hope that the Captains really give this group a run for their money. I don't want to see them eliminated.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 31, 2012, 04:52:04 PM
Yeah me too. But i predicted this. Things already looked like it would point towards a total massacre of Soul Society. What other reason to bring in the zero squad?

I wonder if rukia is any good at fighting. I was annoyed she had so much trouble with a human. Also, i sure hope renji's muscle is worth something
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on May 31, 2012, 06:51:42 PM
I think the Rurika thing was her pride in not wanting to harm a human which goes against the Shinigami code. If those two were to have really fought I think Rukia would have completely trounced Rurika.  She did a decent job against the arrancar a couple of time didn't she kill Sayzel's brother? I have to go back and re read, and once she realized that one guy wasn't Kaien she took him out to albeit injured.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 01, 2012, 03:44:56 PM
Hmm, trudat. I really can't wait to see how things tie together, but looking at the title of the chapter, could it be kubo is ending this as fast as the fullbring arc?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on June 01, 2012, 03:58:44 PM
We were talking about that on another forums it could be more symbolic, they are predicting Yama's death in this arc and it would be closing the doors on a long lived member of the soul society.  Kubo still has way too much to explain before ending this series. The whole Kurosaki mystery especially you can't just say by the way Isshin is a shinigami and Ichigo is special without letting us know why.  I think its more symbolic of all the lives that will be lost in this arc though.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 01, 2012, 04:08:38 PM
I can definately see that happening unfortunately. I really do want to see all mysteries revealed. I think Ishida and his dad should also have more exposition. I wouldn't mind flash backs at all. My money is on Aizen making an appearance again, when things get desperate.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on June 01, 2012, 04:21:08 PM
Yep I agree I think that's why he didnt just have Ichigo blow Aizen away with FGT because he has plans and Aizen did say once he would be there to see the end of the Soul society.  And with Yama's death it would be the end of this incarnation though I know a new one would rise up.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 01, 2012, 04:23:12 PM
i definitely agree that we'll see aizen again. i mean he could have killed him off but he didn't, and then he had him frozen into that cross shape thing but then he was shown later having been freed from it and on trial. plus having been such a massive part of the story, i'm sure we'll see him again, in what regard is the big question i think.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on June 01, 2012, 04:25:20 PM
I am really anticipating some great action in the next chapter and scared of who may die next. I am still bummed about Kira I hated his hair but I loved his character and his Zanpaktou Wabisuke was very unique.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 01, 2012, 05:10:37 PM
yeh. i always thought that he'd go on to make a really badass captain one day. sucks that he's dead. I suppose characters have come back from worse in this manga. But i'm holding little hope.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 01, 2012, 05:32:13 PM
Yeah me too. Well, it ironically fulfills his philosophy in fighting... I had hopes for those other characters. The one with 'The Flute of The Falling Tiger' Shikai seemed interesting. Ah well.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on June 07, 2012, 02:06:56 PM
Rose is coming off as a Bad Ass he is going to whoop some Quincy tail next chapter I can feel it. Renji ahh I thought he was going to get it next so glad he didnt :) and Byakuyas orders to him was so kick ass.  I hate the name of that Quincy chick though Bombietta Bombasta? Really? lol Other then that looks like some serious match ups coming up!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 07, 2012, 02:48:25 PM
Yeah the names are really horrible i think we'll have to suffer some disses on their behalf. But i actually liked Bambietta's the most though.

I thought there'd be lesser Stern Ritters! But there's enough for each captain.

I sort of think the captains are going to be decimated though.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 07, 2012, 03:08:58 PM
i don't think they'll all end up whooped. i imagine it'll be more of an even split. with losses on both sides.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on June 07, 2012, 03:24:13 PM
That is what I am thinking to I am more worried about the Vice Captains than the Captains.  I hope Hisagi fares well he is one of my favorite VC's and Id be upset if he dies like Kira  :( I am hoping he mastered Kazeshini Id love to see a bankai from it.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 07, 2012, 03:37:42 PM
That'd be pretty cool. I really wonder what the heck kira was doing. One hit KO?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 07, 2012, 03:46:03 PM
well i don't think they were expecting such a powerful attack. plus if ichigo is having some trouble with the guy in hueco mundo. the guys actually invading soul society have got to be pretty damn tough
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 07, 2012, 03:50:13 PM
Seriously. I thought Kirgie Opie would be useless.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on June 07, 2012, 03:53:24 PM
Well Quincy's have a way of absorbing spirit energy in order to power their weapons and attacks what happened to Kira if I read it right was the attack cut him in half and stole his spirit energy.  So the Quincy will definitely give the SS a run for their money.  Thing is fighters like Kenpachi who don't rely on his energy are going to be a good match up for these guys. 

I am really bummed about Kira though I chalk it up to him underestimating the enemy though I thought he was a bit more calculating.  I hope to see some good fights in the upcoming chapters.  Kirge swallowing Allon has me wondering who else has the ability to completely suck in another being and incorporate them?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 07, 2012, 04:11:07 PM
Maybe it's all of them?  I'm not looking forward to their gloves appearing. But i am waiting for Ishida to show up and prove himself awesome at last. Or... he may betray everyone i dunno. Still my running theory.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on June 07, 2012, 04:38:23 PM
Yeah I am wondering about Ishida and his father which side will they choose to be on? That is going to be an interesting dynamic for sure.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 07, 2012, 04:45:28 PM
I sure wish i could read those novels too. Bleach novels. What i've always begged for to happen. As soon as they come out, regardless of the writer (who is really good actually) i'll find a way to integrate that into my writing style. I just must.  I read a segment so far, and it looked interesting, especially when you have a good idea how everything looks like.

And ah! Who can't wait for a slugfest between Yamamoto and Buckbeard? I had better see that.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on June 07, 2012, 04:58:29 PM
That is gonna be an epic fight indeed. I don't know if Yama will use his Bankai though its too dangerous especially if what Sasikabe said before he died is true. If they can take Bankai the worst thing to do is give Ryuujinjaaka to the enemy.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 07, 2012, 05:06:53 PM
Yeah no kidding.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 15, 2012, 09:49:11 PM
Stupid decision from the captains i think. let's hope the quincy can't do that twice, then i'd feel it were justified. I can't wait for kenpachi to go in swinging
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: infinite87 on June 16, 2012, 01:22:19 PM
What if they came up with a power to improve bankai or even let the bankai's out while they fight? Or even if Kenpachi cold find out his bankai in this arc!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 16, 2012, 01:30:32 PM
somehow i doubt a bunch of prideful quincy would use shinigami bankai. plus i doubt kenpachi will learn bankai. since someone has to not be completely stripped of power
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: infinite87 on June 16, 2012, 01:44:09 PM
I meant more on the lines of Zangetsu come out and fight right beside Ichigo as he fights the enemy.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 16, 2012, 01:51:10 PM
considering fans already saw that in a filler arc. i doubt it.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 19, 2012, 01:55:11 AM
Kenpachi's zanpaktou came out in the filler arc? Interesting.

But i think i prefer him like that. For one thing we don't want the whole area to explode like an atomic bomb ^ ^' and two he's just boss that way.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 19, 2012, 01:06:24 PM
uh. no. not kenpachi's. but zangetsu and all the others did.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 19, 2012, 05:44:24 PM
I was wondering
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 20, 2012, 12:49:31 PM
Nuuu hyounimaru!

And yeh, more facepalming at the captain's choices. And Shunsui's fighting a monster huh. Action be action in bleach. That was fast.

Very interesting chapter, wish it would stretch on to 21 pages. Now to wait another week ugh... But i loved it

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 20, 2012, 04:52:54 PM
kyoraku just took a bullet to the eye. that's bloody impressive.


also i don't know about the site you read bleach on. but mine tends to have random art on either side of the actual chapter. today they had this.

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh319/Las7mans7anding/004-1.jpg)

that's either real. or made by somebody who has managed to perfectly emulate kubo's art style.

taking

all

bets
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Fulgrate on June 21, 2012, 10:47:29 AM
Wow, the above pic would be REALLY awesome, but wouldn't it negate the "Evil Uryuu" potential sub-plot that might occur if he joins the Vandereich that everybody is predicting/expecting will happen? Although, still, an Arrancar, Quincy, Shinigami/Fullbringer team up is the most awesome thing. Maybe it will happen after Uryuu sees the error of his ways and they all team up to save the survivors or if there are none, to stop the final villain before everything is destroyed.

Also, all morning, my mind has been feeding me images of an evil Orihime sub-plot.  :ohmy: I usually hate love-releated sub-plots, but its so interesting, that I think I might draw it after work. Does anybody see the potential of an evil orihime sub-plot? Not only would the good guys lose their only method of revival, thus raising the stakes and making death permanent, but now they have a powerful adversary/wildcard on their hands?

Here's how it could happen, at least what my mind keeps showing me over and over again. Basically in Hueco Mundo, Orihime permanently heals Nel's scar, allowing Nel to be able to transform between both her forms at will{her chibi form will sometimes be used for comedy relief, but she will stay in her adult form most of the time, and fight in it.}

So the fight against Opie finishes, maybe Nel helped out Ichigo end it faster. She then glomps him again and confesses her love to Ichigo? Orihime, seeing this, regrets healing her and in her anguish, goes to the next level of her powers, and then dissapears via some form of shunpo or bringer light{depending on what her powers really are.} Her new, improved powers involve being able to revive somebody by rejection even if nothing is left of them, by just using the ability at the very location they died at. Orihime, still wanting to help Ichigo, but not being able to bear being around them anymore, goes to try to make her own rag-tag army of powerful people to "help" out.{Although things go awry with this plan later.} Her other new powers are being able to see a mark in the air where a powerful spiritual pressure died at, thus allowing her to find people that died even if she doesn't know the place. Her other power is to be able to bring out the full potential of a person by doing reverse rejection.

Since she is in Hueco Mundo, the first place she goes to is the very top, and rejects a bewildered Ulquiorra back into existence. Some characterization happens, and Ulquiorra opens up a Garganta to Earth. There she revives the buried Ginjo, and he reccomends Tsukishima, whom she doesn't remember, and he's brought back as well if he's already dead. Orihime finds Riruka, so she joins as well. She also finds the strong spiritual mark in Karakura town from where Gin died, bringing him back. Gin then takes her to the fake Karakura town ruins, via senkemon, which should be somewhere in Soul Society, they bring back Stark to help if he's dead.

Orihime then uses her other new power, reverse rejection, to allow some of the more underpowered villains the realization of their full potential. Tsukishima has his full-bring improved, Riruka's base power is improved, Gin gains some kind of power-up, maybe his base power being raised. Stark is able to transform into Segunda Ressureccion and Ulquiorra probably has his improved to its maximum.

By this time, the battle of Soul Society is already over, and they either occupy it or have destroyed it.

So Orihime appears, with her "rag-tag" team of uber-powerful villains wanting to help out: Ulquiorra, Ginjo, Tsukishima, Gin, Starkk, and Riruka. Things go awry here? Ginjo probably says something about that he only came to see Soul Society in ruins and probably doesn't follow her orders. Gin is there to save Rangiku if she's still alive. Stark probably tries to help out. I don't know what Tsukishima would do, he might just be there to make his own army by bookmarking Quincies. The feedback in my mind doesn't show me past this point. The last scene it shows is a garganta opening over the ruins of Soul Society, and the new, solemn-looking Orihime is at the front, with all the mentioned characters behind her, some with smiles of delight as they bestow their gaze on Soul Society's ruined form.

Also, Orihime's full power form gives her scary looking clothes. You'll see if I draw it.  :ohmy: It gives her a very eerie look.

At Shonen Jump Alpha, we are still at the chapter where all the Stern Ritter have appeared at Soul Society.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on June 21, 2012, 01:37:16 PM
Shunsui...ahhh his eye I really really hope he does not lose to that Quincy with a gun  :(  I am really upset by the way the Stern Ritter are really making the SS squirm. I want to see some tactics, fighting and some real battles I refuse to believe that this is just going to be a one sided slaughter fest because the Quincy's can manipulate reiatsu. Someone better break out with a good ability soon, looking at you Juushiro, everyone looks at the sickly captain as not being able to handle himself I think even more so then Kenpachi that Juushiro may surprise everyone against these quincy's especially now that his best friend is hurt bad.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on June 21, 2012, 01:40:40 PM
Nice theories Fulgrate only thing is Kubo has stated in interviews he did not have any plans to touch upon romance themes so I dunno if the whole Orihime/Nel scenario would play out. 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 21, 2012, 01:53:22 PM
Firstly @ Coryn yes i saw it. We Need This To Happen.

@ Fulgrate hmm i'll have to agree with Nyxy on that point. Also, i think Kubo threw in a reason why Orihime is already essentially useless: The Quincys use condensed reishi to burn their enemies, and Orihime can't heal such wounds fast enough. It's prolly why she didn't bother healing all the dead arrancar, since she'd do that without a care definitely.

It sucks but i think Bleach has always been like this. I really don't understand people's comments on how easy it all is for them but when you think of it no victory has ever been gained easily. I think Ichigo has only honestly ever won two times in the whole manga? 1. When he trolled Aizen 2. When he killed Ginjou. Those were absolute complete wins  as compared to the other ones.

Interesting how all the captains are pissed off with the three captains. Poor Byakuya... can they still use shikai?

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on June 21, 2012, 02:39:05 PM
I don't know it seems they took the Zan's spirit when they took Bankai, but Byakuya has the talents of being a master of Kido so I don't think him losing his sword will affect him like it will the others. Hitsaygua is who I am worried about poor Toshiro seemed devastated at losing his soul sword as did Kommura.  But I am not worried so much about the 6th division captain because he still has other abilities.

And I agree with Lego about the victories being hard won I just really don't like the Quincy's completely steam rolling the SS though. They have the stealth squad which I am still hoping makes an appearance soon, and outside allies like Yoruichi who can still come in and help out against these guys I hope.  I just hope that its not going to continue to be a one side slaughter.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 21, 2012, 02:59:50 PM
It might just turn out to be one. Kubo has always been suspiciously dark sometimes. I really don't want Ishida to go dark side though...

I have a theory that Ishida's grandfather and Ryuuken know Buckbeard. They obviously must. I think there's also a good reason for the difference between 'old generation' Letz Stil and the New-gen Letz Stil. Maybe a quincy losing his power was for a good reason?

I hope Urahara can still get to use his bankai in the end. I wonder what he noticed though back in hueco mundo
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 21, 2012, 05:29:33 PM
people are really jonesing on the whole evil ishida idea. sure he's always been mared in a little bit of gray because he hates shinigami. but he's not an idiot. or crazy. and being the rational character he is he'll fight against the other quincy since you know anything is better than THE END OF THE UNIVERSE.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Fulgrate on June 21, 2012, 11:36:14 PM
I mean, you know how Chad awakened his fullbringer power to another level, gaining an improved arm as well as an extra arm? If Orihime awakened her powers to the next level, wouldn't she be able to bring back people even from nothing? {Of course, I think the concentrated reishi thing will still prevent her from reviving anything near it, but for plot purposes, her new pwoers will allow her to bring back those that turned to nothing, like Ulq and Gin.

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She didn't bring back Barraggan since Starrk and Gin mentioned that he would probably backstab everybody with Respira. So basically, she brings those guys, more powerful than they ever where before, with some having stuff like Starrk having Segunda Etapa.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 22, 2012, 02:04:33 PM
Haha, you're really dedicated to it huh. Interesting.

Well yeah, maybe if you say it that way coryn ishida would probably do the right thing.

This Jougamaru 6th seat guy is pathetic. Some low class shiningami with no seat probably was able to stand up to As Dolt (SP?) but he is freaking out like that, even after his deep 'Justice' Speech. Sheesh.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 22, 2012, 03:32:37 PM
well if i've learned anything about the squads. is that if you're not a vice captain at least you're basically screwed.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 27, 2012, 12:05:55 PM
why does he surpass me with such ease?

Epic chapter.

And hm... i can't just can't get past how much urahara seems like you coryn damn you... you fit the character perfectly.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 27, 2012, 02:38:46 PM
it's crazy right? but great coincidences usually are i guess. i'm hoping that we get to see urahara in action now though.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 27, 2012, 02:40:43 PM
I think he assasinated the dude... but later i guess? And Kirge going down = urahara being able to snatch a medallion and investigate it = captains get to use their bankai
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 27, 2012, 02:44:53 PM
seems about right.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: infinite87 on June 27, 2012, 04:10:53 PM
Urahara always figures these kinds of things out.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 28, 2012, 03:58:34 PM
Did anyone notice how awesome it was for him to have time to open a senkaimon before attacking the dude? The man's got timing...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 04, 2012, 02:27:00 PM
Wow seriously why are chad and inoue even here. I mean... he's hand is freakin swiss cheese...

i have a feeling ichigo is going to be in there a while... long enough for things to hit the fan properly and the royal gaurd to get called in.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 04, 2012, 02:58:24 PM
I don't know. I get the feeling kubo is smart enough to avoid the "hold off until the main hero can get here and save everybody" technique. you know, like every major battle in DBZ
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 04, 2012, 03:12:48 PM
Haha, that'd be great. So far he's been trust worthy. Was bleach always this adult though? When i saw the sentence "Chad and Inoue, examine that corpse" I was like YES. Kubo's going back to his old dark roots... free from the anime?

Not that i would've love to see this animated. I do know it'd be censored though.

Ishida! Ishida must come and save the day now. I mean... it concerns him now to an extent right? Or grimmjow... grimmjow would work JUST fine.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 04, 2012, 11:47:27 PM
someone's gonna finish him off i think. we'll see.

and yeh it's definitely a bit heavier than where it was. I mean we did get that horrible wounding of what's her face again cause they thought she was aizen, and more than one arm was ripped off. but yeh. definitely darker.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 05, 2012, 12:15:40 AM
Haha, poor hinamori...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 10, 2012, 04:23:10 PM
FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 10, 2012, 04:59:58 PM
what? WHAT?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 10, 2012, 05:03:05 PM
Nevermind. I'm reading it now...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 10, 2012, 06:20:55 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WANT TO SAY IT. IT STARTS WITH A 'G' AND ENDS WITH AWESOMENESS
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on July 17, 2012, 01:08:00 PM
Who do you think saved Urahara ? Yoruichi ?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 17, 2012, 01:18:29 PM
I think saved is probably the wrong term here. Both because I doubt Urahara was in much danger, and because whoever it was imediately put a sword to his head.

I'm going to say what everyone is thinking and desperately wishing for: Grimmjow.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on July 17, 2012, 01:24:50 PM
I don't why anyone would expect Grimmjow ? That guy didn't last very long front of Ichigo, did he ?

Might be Ichigos dad too. If he is a friendly.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 17, 2012, 01:30:11 PM
Grimmjow was specifically ichigo's rival for almost the entire arrancar arc. Kinda a big deal, and their fight was pretty intense for both of them as well, for the most part they were on equal footing.

Add to that that Grimmjow specifically did not die. And was then just left alone. Kubo is smart, he wouldn't do that without a reason.

And we know Ichigo's dad is friendly to Urahara. They've worked together on multiple occasions.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on July 17, 2012, 01:49:25 PM
I meant if this anonymous guy/lady is a friendly.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 17, 2012, 02:01:46 PM
well considering they didn't attack automatically, i'd say they're driven to a goal. they don't have to be one way or another reallly.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on July 17, 2012, 02:12:57 PM
Who do you mean by they ?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 17, 2012, 02:24:42 PM
i mean whoever has a sword on Urahara. They can refer to just one person when used correctly.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on July 17, 2012, 02:31:17 PM
Singular they is kinda frown upon in these parts. anyway that's off topic.

They do have to be one way or other. Enemy or Friend and story would in different ways.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on July 17, 2012, 03:30:30 PM
Judging from Urahara's expression, I'm going to rule out Grimmjow. I doubt he'd have anything to fear from him, he was only the 6th Espada, and I doubt he could hang with Ichigo now, even though they were on basically equal footing in their final contest. There's always that chance for a power increase, but if that's the case why is Heibel the Ruler of HM and not him? I got the vibe she was pretty much the best the Hollows had to offer and the Quincy easily dealt with her. I'm going to place my money on a new character that's probably on the awesomely powerful side( I mean these Quincy have been hiding for so long why not?) Or a less then likely answer in Azien. Why? Because he's the only person that comes to mind at the time who could give Urahara a good scare, that's not accounted for already, though again less then likely considering how we last saw him.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 18, 2012, 01:07:18 AM
Well the main hole i see with your reasoning is that we can't say that urahara is actually scared. He became wide eyed. Considering the randomness that whats his face was taken out, and then there suddenly being a sword in front of his head, i think it's less fear, and more surprise. Since it's obvious that kubo was pushing the "this person is really fast" idea. Plus we've already seen that sonido is pretty damn fast, even faster than flash step.

Plus there's still plenty of room for grimmjow to have had a power increase. And we can't just assume that he would fall right into the hiearchy again. After all he did experience a fairly powerful "world just got crushed" moment, when ichigo overpowered him, and then went on and spared him. It's entirely possible that he decided that he was going to do things his own way for a while.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on July 18, 2012, 10:52:22 AM
Well for one I wouldn't say the Sonido is faster then the Flash Step. It just happens to be the Arrancar's way of utilizing high speed movement. It comes down to the individual really, but I can understand the reasoning beyond such a statement because throughout that whole arc, Arrancar seemed more powerful then Shinigami  as a whole. Of course Sonido seemed like the quicker techinque, but I point to characters like Yoruichi, Byakuya, Azien(Pre-Evolution) who had clearly superior flash steps to the Arrancar. I would also go on record in saying no where have I ever seen it offically stated Sonido was faster, but a particular character using it was faster. (Databooks)

Now something myself overlooked in my first post as to why it isn't Grimmjow. Grimmjow was not preferably a sword user. He used it on occasion (particularly when Ichigo cut his arm off), but he reveled in hand to hand combat. It's obvious whoever this is, is I agree extremely fast and a user of their zanpakuto. It's a big assumpation to say Grimmjow went through this complete overhaul combat-wise just because Ichigo beat him.(Didn't the 5th Espada put him down though?) If you follow the mind that is Kubo, it's honestly out of character for him, to completely change a character's fighting style from what it previously was, because of Ichigo's innate ability to change people at their heart. Is it possible? Of course. Is it likely? Not so much. Beside, hasn't Grimmjow always been a rebel? It was clear his motives for serving Azien were not exactly out of devote servitude and respect, so it's likely if he didn't want leadership he wouldn't take it, I agree. On the other hand Hueco Mundo doesn't have a hierarchy by choice, and it was already said Tier was the most powerful Hollow/Arrancar left, thus why she automatically assumed rule over Hueco Mondo. 

As far as the look on Urahara's face we could argue all day if it's fear, or surprise, but bottom line is, Urahara is one of the most powerful character's in the Bleach Universe(Also listed as one of the fastest). He faced off against a God like Azien and didn't display such a face. Whoever this is has brought instant cause of concern for him. Now Kubo could have left it there for effect, and it can turn out to be someone not worth Urahara's expression that is drop dead fear but definitely contains it, but he's been known to deliver 9/10, so whoever that is has some serious speed, power, and is a ligament threat to Urahara.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 18, 2012, 05:13:07 PM
Still see it as simple surprise. He has an arrow in his back. The same awesome Urahara who fought against Aizen made a blunder and got shot as a result. He won't be fully perfect. Just like we've seen with a certain someone this chapter.

Bleach 501... damn... Kubo i don't trust you no more... i really don't. This arc is tense.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 18, 2012, 05:28:27 PM
oh god....

why
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 18, 2012, 05:40:01 PM
maybe it's just a flesh wound? sasakibe was just unlucky right hahaha... ha... T-T
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on July 18, 2012, 06:38:14 PM
Yeah its pretty obvious the Quincy are a force to be reckoned with. Kubo definitely taking us on a ride for the final arc of his brilliant work.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 19, 2012, 04:41:26 AM
Can't wait for ishida to tear them a new one.

"You are not quincy... You have no pride."

*One hit K.O!

If they all get suspicious of Ishida that would be bad.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on July 20, 2012, 04:45:09 AM
Yeah I seriously want him to be a factor in this arc. I mean seeing what the Quincy are truly capable of makes me think he's seriously weaker then I once thought, despite him actually being one of my fav. Bleach Characters.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 20, 2012, 12:51:59 PM
wasn't it alluded to that ishida is stronger than what we've seen before?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on July 21, 2012, 02:38:52 AM
I believe so. I just know whenever I think he's about to make a huge breakthrough...he comes a short. I'm hoping he's finally a difference maker in this arc, because he hasn't really been one since Soul Society(Manga wise)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 21, 2012, 03:27:38 AM
Yeah i was a little disappointing in the way he was ambushed and talked down during the whole Fullbring fiasco, but Ishida is definitely a genius. He mastered that shroud thingimajig which apperently hundreds of adult quincy had failed to master, according to Mayuri. He's also improved enough to get that solid bow similar to Ryuuken
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on July 24, 2012, 12:05:14 PM
Did anyone read 501 yet? if not dont want to give too many spoilers just say and I quote *cues loud voice*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!  :(

Trust me after you read it you will know why this is my reaction. /sad panda all the way
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 24, 2012, 01:27:23 PM
that discussion has come and gone nyxy. we know, we know.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on July 24, 2012, 03:22:24 PM
Ah I did not realize that /sigh many are saying that because of the ability used Byakuya could have survived but that RIP at the end makes me very nervous and sad :( Other's have lived threw it though so there is hope. But man watching the Soul Society get manhandled is rough :/
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on July 24, 2012, 08:00:21 PM
What makes it worst is were probably going to have to go throw about two to three more chapters of our favorite characters getting mangled before something gives(By gives I mean Ichigo escaping his prison because, they've been pushing the point he's SS only hope). Also something slightly off topic, but was it ever confirmed Gin is actually dead? It be awesome to see the best triple agent in Bleach to return.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 24, 2012, 11:26:11 PM
i'm fairly confindent he is. after all he did have a dramatic "he's dead" sequence. flashback and all.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on July 25, 2012, 12:16:43 AM
Yeah I remember that now. What got me thinking was a friend said Tierr was pretty much killed( Azien did deal a pretty harsh blow) But she turned out living. Sigh- Kubo has killed off almost all of my favorites.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 25, 2012, 12:56:49 AM
well when you think about it. He's never played the whole "Are they dead?" card on us. Cause she never did get an actually on screen death. And the wound Aizen gave her, while a good hit, was on the order of wounds that we've seen character's power through before.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on July 25, 2012, 01:51:19 AM
This is true. I just went back and read that chapter along with everything leading up to him and Ichigo's face-off. In hindsight yeah, it wasn't that much of a blow, but at the time  Azien was pretty much blowing through and blowing off everyone's attacks. My hope is she plays a more of a role then being chained up. Because to be honest I'm not looking forward to Ichigo being the sole reason Soul Society has a chance.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 25, 2012, 08:11:50 AM
Kenpachi is the one
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on July 25, 2012, 12:45:50 PM
I can only hope so Lego. Of course Kenpachi heads to the leader. So either Kubo is giving us some hope, or we get to see the Leader is so powerful he doesn't need to steal Bankai, by destroying Kenpachi. I'm happy I came to terms with Kuchiki dying two weeks ago(I pretty much assumed he was finished when his Bankai was stolen.) But it honestly hurt....to see him...just get swatted away the way he did.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 25, 2012, 01:08:01 PM
I'm actually denying the existence of the event
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on July 25, 2012, 01:54:57 PM
Im not I look at it this way I was originally really pissed that Byakuya did not get the chance to fight back he is a master of several fighting techniques including Kido, Shunpo and a master swords man without even using shikai or bankai

But if you think about Nodt's powers for a bit, the ability to induce your enemies greatest fear into their minds. The fact that he did get into Byakuya's head and probably threw this normally tactical fighter off his game. It can happen fear inducing powers can cripple a competent person. Nodt made him envision failing and losing Rukia he got in his mind thus stopping a captain who should have been able to fight better and to me thats bad ass. I hate the bankai stealing stuff personally but I do like the psychological break down of a strong warrior by their opponent. So to me Byakuya's death while not spectacular was potent, he can now be with Hisana since in the Bleach world even death is just apart of the cycle and not something to fear.

As to Zaraki hells yes its about time you cannot tell me hes not one of the 5 war potentials BuckBeard and his crew were worried about. They  have Ichigo, Chad and Orihime busy in HM I am thinking Kenpachi and either Urryu Ishida or Ryukken Ishida is the 5th some say its Isshin but I doubt that.  I am looking forward to seeing the bad guys get roughed up a bit more (was kinda disappointed they didnt show Kenpanchi taking out those two on his back :( ).  But I am looking forward to the next chapter and seeing how this is dealt with.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 25, 2012, 02:27:35 PM
FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on July 25, 2012, 02:41:28 PM
XD @ Lego that sounds like a good idea

Nyxy you bring up a good point, with Nodt's ability though I think his ability isn't the manifestation of the greatest fear, but rather the manipulation of the primal instinct of fear. He went into the fact that true fear isn't something we control and can combat but something we automatically feel in those situations. I think what we were seeing with Byakuya was his attempt to combat his the fear but ultimately being unable to deny something that is always going to be there.

 Nodt's ability obviously makes him a pretty tough opponent to deal with, and it only proves the guy over him,  has to be serious. The fact Kenpachi doesn't have a Bankai to steal is promising but we have to think....why would Kubo have him come face to face with the leader of the Quincy, so early on? The answer...hopefully a epic battle, that actually proves...at least somewhat, Soul Society has a fighting chance without....Ichigo -shutters-
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nyxy on July 25, 2012, 02:47:13 PM
I hope so to I know Ichigo is the main hero so at some point he will help save the day. But I honestly knew it would not be all him when mentioned earlier in the arc by Buckbeard there are 5 war potentials. That means even if Ichigo wanted to be he is only 1 of at least  4 others who could potentially give the Quincy army troubles. And who knows who the others could be, Orihime to me is natural because of her abilities, I am not too sold on Sado, Ryuuken and Uryuu are definitely potentials along with Yourichi and even though I dont believe it Isshin.  The fact that Ichigo is trap leaves it down to 4 and I really believe Zaraki is one of them. I just want to see the SS get in some hard hitting action it was disheartening watching them get roll stomped so badly.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on July 26, 2012, 05:22:29 AM
Well after debating with myself about Bleach's current happenings I've decided Byukuya's apparent death is just a sign to tell us how serious this Arc is. If we think about it more closely the Soul Society hasn't been steam rolled as bad as it appears. So far we've had one captain utterly annihilated, a lieutenant batted away, Rukia put down, and then a bunch of subordinates cut down, but we can only expect that right? After all these are the Quincy's best.

My next prediction is the Quincy standing with the leader will probably take Zaraki on instead of the leader because him and Yammoto have some unfinished business to take care off. Meanwhile back in HM whoever have Urahara and the gang held up frees them up and Ichigo and the crew make it into Soul Society and deal with Nordt.(Somebody needs to deal with that thing  :unsure: )

Then Uryu and possibly his father show up with some nice Quincy secrets and decide to give a helping hand and the battle is now finally on equal terms, rather then the Bankai stealing(  :cop: ) Quincy legion sucking our hope through a straw via continuing their slaughter of our favorite characters( Byakuya gets my vote for most unfitting death in bleach)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 26, 2012, 02:19:45 PM
i have to applaud kubo on the imagery recently though. decaying rukia, the mass of insects consuming byakuya, the frame in which we see his death.

I really wish his death was just paced a little slower. It just seems like it's being a bit rushed. But looking at how he's done deaths in the past, i can't help but think he's doing it on purpose, trying to make things feel as cut throat as possible.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on July 27, 2012, 02:03:50 AM
I agree the imagery has been pretty awesome as of the last 10 chapters I'd say.

I also wonder if the new laws in Japan are effecting his change of pace, which is not bad, but it does feel rushed and out of place. I mean I understand Byakayu's death but I just can't seem to shake the feeling he didn't go out like a man of his capabilities should.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on July 27, 2012, 02:20:29 AM
Im not reading bleach anymore.....GRIMMJOW now BYUAKUYA
how much more can i take.....(breaks down) :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 27, 2012, 05:57:47 AM
Grimmjow is back methinks. I just don't see any other way to justify the guy who divided Kirge Opie in two.

Another thing though... I'm not too convinced about Komamura's chances of survival. Him being the weakest captain and all. But i do hope the quincy suffers because of the bankai he stole. If one of the hollow-captains gets a good cero through the chest of that stolen bankai... easy win!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on July 27, 2012, 04:14:54 PM
Yeah the Hallow Captains should have a strong chance. The others however..not so sure. It depends on how powerful you wanna assume Nodt actually is( since it's the only one we've actually seen fight) I think it stands to reason without the fear manipulation Byakuya would still be alive right now, and fighting, Bankai stolen or not.

As far as the captains with their Bankai's stolen so far go, I think Sui-Feng has the best chance, I mean we've seen her in action without it, and her shikai is actually better.  But yeah Komamura and Toshiro I think are in trouble if their opponents are actually good.

Thats actually another thing I find weird, it seems like Kubo is really just...pushing the envelope here. Why would Sui-Feng who's Bankai is only worth pretty much one shot pull it out immediately? The more I think about this Arc as a whole,the more I furrow my brow.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 27, 2012, 04:20:37 PM
well i think since she knew that they had basically instantly defeated what's his face from the 1st division with his bankai out. And since he was at bankai even before Kyoraku and Ukitake, i'm thinking she wasn't wanting to take any chances.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on July 27, 2012, 06:26:21 PM
Chojiro had Bankai o.O? Because last I checked Yammoto wasn't defeated, he was last seen leaving his office.  Even still, doesn't seem Sui- Feng's style and she's even said she can only fire it once every 3 days, without overdoing it, so because a lieutenant was killed she becomes desperate enough to use an over under-effective Bankai? Doesn't really fit her character.

 I understand Komamura and Toshiro going bankai, they've always been quick to do so, but Sui-Feng been more like Kyoraku and Ukitake fighting Shikai rather then go all out without knowing the enemy.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 27, 2012, 06:43:56 PM
well the way they explained it was he could have been a captain ever since yama took over. but never did because he wanted to serve under him. so yeh. we're too assume he was pretty powerful when he wanted to be
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on July 27, 2012, 09:24:52 PM
Wow, and to think Ichigo pretty much blew by him way back when in the Soul Society arc.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 01, 2012, 11:20:37 PM
i hear tell that kubo is too sick to draw.

this makes me concernicus
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on August 01, 2012, 11:33:09 PM
Yeah I didn't see an update today......me worries :unsure:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on August 01, 2012, 11:50:53 PM
Yeah, best wishes go out to Kubo for a speedy recover, but he does honestly deserve a rest, so I'm willing to wait. :sheep:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 02, 2012, 05:29:08 AM
So that sickness is still affecting him? Oh man that's really worrying. Hope he gets well soon.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on August 12, 2012, 11:23:09 PM
Kenpachi!! Hopefully he gets something done while Ichigo throws his "I must protect" party and Yammoto prepares to own the Overkill, for killing his Chijoro! 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 13, 2012, 08:26:39 PM
i really want to see what chijoro's bankai is though. i feel like kubo is going to pull out something cool
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on August 14, 2012, 01:00:44 AM
Agreed, as everything progresses were really starting to see(with Kubo as always) Everything is coming together to make some awesome action.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 16, 2012, 07:16:29 AM
Kenpachi's just way too awesome. His explanations for the kills was funny as hell. I can't wait to see the bankai too, but personally i hope the captain commander wipes the bastard off the face of the earth.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on August 22, 2012, 11:44:38 AM
Well...that was cool. I knew Chijoro was going to have a sweet Bankai....but Yammoto...is the strongest captain for a reason..and he wasn't going to be bested by someone unfamiliar with with it. I even Noticed Nodt used Byukuya's a bit differently then he ever did.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 22, 2012, 12:03:33 PM
HOLY SHEET HE ERASED HIM
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 22, 2012, 04:28:57 PM
i think that was my most favorite chapter in bleach...of all time...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on August 22, 2012, 04:42:40 PM
Definitely top 5 for me. I mean its not every day you see someone's face pretty much...eaten away by intense flames within the time it takes to bring a sword across their body. Its just not something you see.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on August 29, 2012, 04:06:16 PM
This fight, better be amazing. Because Yuhabaha apparently swatted Kenpachi away effortlessly, and I've been waiting forever to actually see Yamamoto throw down.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 04, 2012, 10:06:56 AM
Kenpachi didn't get beaten. He just fell asleep from boredom
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on September 04, 2012, 11:40:48 AM
lol...............phew lego hope ur right..... ._.)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 04, 2012, 02:38:17 PM
yeh. feel pretty confident he's not quite dead yet.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 05, 2012, 03:30:34 PM
JAW.DROP.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on September 05, 2012, 10:31:04 PM
Either way the difference in power within the Soul Society is clear o.o....
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 06, 2012, 01:18:40 AM
Yama ji just... just... what the hell i can't wait for the next chapter
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on September 06, 2012, 06:50:59 PM
Im going to be mad if Kubo build this up...just to have Yama's Bankai stolen >_>...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 06, 2012, 08:36:09 PM
Exactly what i'm worried about. This guy is pretty monstrous though. He killed that other quincy without even any special ryuujin jakka technique, and those three he simply blasted away with reiatsu... truly a monster
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on September 07, 2012, 12:13:43 PM
No kidding. It makes me wonder why he didn't crush Azien, because its clear he was holding back in the battle now.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 07, 2012, 02:53:49 PM
Maybe he expected the other captains to win? He did only intervene when Kira was about to be crushed by Ayon, and he expressed his dissapointement then.

Then there was the fact that aizen's powers could very well make him hit the wrong target. He couldn't be a hundred percent sure, and i doubt his bankai lets him attack carelessly. His shikai is bad enough...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on September 08, 2012, 12:27:36 AM
Yeah very true, Azien had a hold over everyone with his Shikai ability, and of course we knew from when he first betrayed SS, Ichigo was the key to defeating him. Still I think it would have been awesome for Yammato to have fought earlier.

Since Bleach is nearing it's end this is all were gonna really see of him and since Ichigo is the main character I have a feeling he won't prevail, even though he's obviously one of the most powerful characters in the series.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 08, 2012, 12:34:59 PM
yeh. personally i think he's going to do some serious damage. But the quincy have had 1000 years to sit and gather their strength.

Also apparently big boss hasn't aged at all. Which you know, concerns me.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on September 09, 2012, 02:06:57 AM
Yeah really Yammoto looks like a senior the Quincy leader looks to be middle aged so what's his secret? Personally I hope Yammoto burns that annoying mustache off his face.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on September 09, 2012, 02:41:36 AM
Lol......Fight Fight Fight
 :swordfight:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 09, 2012, 12:57:15 PM
Yeah... even though quincies are supernatural they are humans aren't they. They must've done something to prolong their lives.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 09, 2012, 01:48:24 PM
at least the big dude. I get the impression the others are a bit newer to the game.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on September 10, 2012, 06:01:42 PM
Or were simply overconfident and reckless. The first one Yammoto slaughtered said he killed a 100 Soul Reapers in the last war, so at least some of the others most have been around too.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 11, 2012, 06:36:22 AM
Bleach does not dissapoint with its epicness. Damnit i wish he wouldn't give a lecture and would just anhilate the bastard. In any case great to see his majesty cower in fear like that.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on September 11, 2012, 10:19:07 AM
Agreed Lego xD. Before Soul Society collapsed under Yammoto's power. More specifically becomes inhabitable because his flames are evaporating all the moisture in the area.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on September 11, 2012, 03:12:31 PM
yamamoto uses his trump.....XD
its lik itachis susanoo which in u cant be touched but u give damage any other way it goes....TITE KUBO gave an awesome power.......XD cant wait :D
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on September 11, 2012, 03:15:01 PM
@ lego a speech is in a more way of the samurai than simply to fight..,.it gives the battle more epicness...:D
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 11, 2012, 03:23:11 PM
i don't deny its epicness, but with bankai stealing 1000 year prepared opponents one has to be careful. when he tried to slash him he should've blasted him away.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on September 11, 2012, 03:24:56 PM
lol yeah....thats bc TK is showing off his power.....XD
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on September 11, 2012, 07:51:08 PM
Yamamoto's Bankai owns Susanoo hands down xD. But the feeling The Great Mustache has something tremendous up his sleeve can't be ignored. After all he has faced this Bankai before and lived to tell about it, and I don't think he did so by running away with his tail in between his legs.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 11, 2012, 08:05:35 PM
wasn't there a line several chapters back about yama sparing him? so maybe it was something like that.


though i guess this answers why he never went bankai while fighting aizen. probably would have ripped the barrier to shreds from its shear existence
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on September 11, 2012, 08:23:05 PM
his offense level is off the charts........but i meant it like susanoo being like it in different worlds not as compared....... :unsure:
but one thing for sure im so HYPED for the next chapter.......XD
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on September 11, 2012, 11:15:57 PM
Sparring who Coryn? And I'm not sure it be possible for Yama to actually spar with his Bankai since he's slowly killing everyone at this point xD.

I know what you meant Roshon I was just saying....if you look at the two Yama's Bankai is easily stronger, but personally Bleach power wise has always been better then Naruto, but I digress as that's a completely different topic xD.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on September 11, 2012, 11:48:49 PM
Of course........ :santa:
But you'd be surprise of what other people think....... 8)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on September 12, 2012, 12:35:49 AM
Not really xD. Fully aware it's an opinion and there is no true right or wrong with it. Actually I've seen a few polls and Naruto is slightly more popular...at least back in 2008 and 2009.

But Bleach has the most killer pace right now! Next Tuesday...come.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on September 12, 2012, 12:48:09 AM
Bleach for some reason is losing on most manga sites on the views
.....which is pissing me off......
Naruto is either number 1 or one of the top 5
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 12, 2012, 09:50:42 AM
sparing not sparring
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on September 12, 2012, 12:22:36 PM
Derp! Well that's what I get for not reading correctly. Well Mayuri states in 489 that he failed to completely kill him, suggesting he most certainly tried but didn't succeed.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 12, 2012, 12:28:08 PM
More like he spared him. That's why mayuri added "I warned you he might come back."

I think he got a good hit with the bankai on the man, and he's heavily cloaked because of thewounds he got.

One thing i'm scared about though... i don't want to see this guy's quincy final form. Dominance over reishi pwns fire methinks...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on September 12, 2012, 06:50:48 PM
In what chapter did Mayuri say that Lego? Because their conversation was over after he told him he failed to completely kill him. The next time Yammoto is seen is during the actual war. Mayuri stated he warned him of this Quincy War back when Uyru first showed up and Yammoto dismissed it, and this is before he speaks of the "That Man". This all happens in 489, and isn't spoken about in detail afterward.

And perhaps Yammoto has recently( as in after the Quincy War) developed his Bankai further because The West technique seems to be a surprise to Juhabach. Meaning A. Yammoto did take it lightly on the guy. B. Didn't have the technique. C. There engagement wasn't as involved as we've been lead to believe.  Though I'm gonna rule out the power difference between the two is actually that big of a margin that he never had a chance to discover the technique, because this guy has dispatched pretty strong characters effortlessly, and Yammoto isn't actually treating this guy like he's weak.

In any case, my only worry is Yammoto is playing into the hands of Juhbach. By activing his Bankai he's slowly destorying Soul Society and if Juh, can drag it out long enough his mission is accomplished either way.  And I don't wanna think about it getting stolen at this point.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: takahashi on September 19, 2012, 01:06:02 PM
Yammoto is killing it. ;D
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 19, 2012, 02:59:31 PM
Bleach... WHY SO AWESOME!?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 19, 2012, 04:25:47 PM
he just get's more and more terrifying each chapter
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 19, 2012, 04:31:29 PM
Yeah. Seriously... zombies now. I don't know about you but i'm getting inspired again. Bleach keeps on reminding me how action can make your day.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on September 19, 2012, 07:22:47 PM
I just love the whole" I'm willing to take everything with me" Mentality Yammoto always seems to have. A true badass.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on September 21, 2012, 10:44:19 AM
Yammoto is killing it. ;D
Surely.......i like how TK is doing this fight.........XD
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: takahashi on September 26, 2012, 10:12:49 AM
Holy s### yammoto is ruthless damn that was epic.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on September 26, 2012, 01:23:13 PM
NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL A SWIFT EXECUTION  :D

Yamamoto guillotined his ass......XD
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 26, 2012, 04:11:00 PM
Guillotined.

You use this word. But I don't think it means, what you think it means.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 27, 2012, 07:50:31 AM
Awesome. Just awesome. I am inspired
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 27, 2012, 11:06:09 AM
the problem i'm seeing though. is that he's now used every direction of the bankai. which means it could be stolen.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 27, 2012, 12:49:46 PM
i thought so too. It must be Juha Bach's plan all along. I  wonder how hallibel fits into the picture as well.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 27, 2012, 12:52:31 PM
yeh. i mean it feels like the culmination of things. but there's so much taht's going on that it just can't be. which is scary.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 27, 2012, 12:57:58 PM
What do you think is next? A moment of respite where the other quincies are chased off and they get to count their dead or the crap hits the fan and things get worse?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 27, 2012, 01:05:06 PM
i feel like there's some contingency plan in effect already. you don't plan 1,000 years without a plan b.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on September 27, 2012, 03:04:01 PM
True coryn....... :santa:

AND I DO KNOW WHAT GUILLOITINE MEANS...... :glare:

Being strict is also a sign of over maturing........
Just saiyan >.>
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 27, 2012, 03:20:00 PM
over maturing is one thing. I just have high regard for the english language.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: takahashi on October 02, 2012, 10:03:49 AM
Well I saw that coming at least Aizen might be back . :D
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 02, 2012, 11:22:09 AM
jegus *censored* did i just witness
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 02, 2012, 02:29:34 PM
*censored*
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on October 02, 2012, 10:44:47 PM
Shouldn't have been a surprise, no way Kubo ends Bleach like that, and I just knew these two had to be near equals and Yammoto's emotions were used against him. Brute strength can't win em all. 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: takahashi on October 10, 2012, 02:19:51 AM
Rip yama.. :sadbye:
and division zero what the hell.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 10, 2012, 06:51:55 AM
words cannot describe the feeling i get from reading this chapter... it's... depressing...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on October 10, 2012, 08:07:30 AM
Very depressing ...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 10, 2012, 11:30:35 AM
I just kept hoping for more pages to see what happens next. I need Juha Bach to die so badly.

I hope those people who were saying Bleach was too friendly to its characters are happy, now look whats happening.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 10, 2012, 04:45:31 PM
yeh. I get the impression that Kubo has just been holding all of this back on purpose. The beginning was a warm up. Now he pulls out all the stops.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 10, 2012, 04:52:07 PM
It looks like it'll end by next year by the looks of it... or early 2014 at the most?

So, i guess crazy scientist and ken-chan are the only two true souls of the past shiningami. Oh, maybe aizen. I hope Zero squad brings back some dignity. For now my attitude is screw humanity. Quincies must die. Yeah they got mercilessly annihilated earlier, but dude...

I'm really, really hoping the quincy situation is explained more though. I still find it very weird how Ishida's grandfather died. Seriously, his father took down two improved hollow with a single on his bow, and his grandfather got killed because he was swarmed? Right. Methinks more things have happened in the shadows
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coach Fro on October 10, 2012, 05:07:07 PM
From what I'm reading, I can assume that craziness of bleach's story line just multiplied by 9000.

I'm so left behind it's not even funny. Really need to start reading the manga for bleach. I'm over here still watching anime fillers.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 10, 2012, 05:23:44 PM
I fortunately figured out earlier the manga is a more faithful representation. The latest two fillers weren't too bad though

really wish they'd animate it again man
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on October 10, 2012, 08:33:08 PM
I'm glad Kubo is being real to the situation he's placed us in. This is War, and people die in War, no getting around it. No way Kubo could have had the the story take this turn and all our hero's come out with their lives. Bleach is ending and we know this for a fact, so how he resolves this will decide just how great the Bleach series is and was, for as we all know, must manga/anime are judged on how they tied it all together.

Also...can anyone say enter either Division 0/ Ichigo and party?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 10, 2012, 08:59:36 PM
I'm guessing neither. Ichigo was passing through the an established route, and it's unlikely 0 squad's way in would be via explosion. I'm guessing we're going to see who exactly it was who was holding urahara at sword point.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 11, 2012, 05:49:19 AM
Yeah i'm thinking the 0 squad will arrive in a more refined way.

I'm wondering about ichigo though. I don't remember the exact chapter but i saw some fullbring light flares when he was trying to break out of the prison? Possible evolution methinks.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on October 11, 2012, 12:22:32 PM
I don't think just because Ichigo was on an established route means an explosion in the middle of the sky( probably through the dimensional barrier that separates the Realms) isn't him and whoever had Urahara had at sword point. At this point..thats probably an ally..or atleast someone against the Quincy, unless of course Kubo is gonna extend this even more with another conflict somewhere else...which because of the pace...I doubt.

And who are we to say who exactly Squad 0 is and how "refined" they may be? My guess is their only the Spirit Kings personal guard as its been said before the Gotei 13 is only his first line of defense.

After all we were all pretty sure Yama owned Juha only to see him effortlessly deceived according to plan. 

Though in any case I am hoping Kubo doesn't pull a Kishi on us and just jumps into something else just as its getting good for the sake of dragging.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 11, 2012, 01:17:49 PM
They may be it's guard yes. (it being the spirit king) but i don't know if the word "only" should be in place. Going from the flash back arc we can surmise that 0 is made of only the strongest captains, and that it's likely that any number of them could be a part of it. I wouldn't be surprised if it rivaled the rest of the 13 in power.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 11, 2012, 01:37:34 PM
Im hoping theyre ruthless. Bach's lecture has convinced me.

I really hope guys like yuki and hanatarou survived. It's sad enough about the science dept.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 11, 2012, 03:20:10 PM
well it's unlikely kubo's killed the comic relief off screen. those are the deaths that hit the hardest for the characters after all.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 11, 2012, 05:46:11 PM
I knew from the cover page that this arc would be bigger, but i didn't expect this. To be honest i'd be satisfied even with no one getting killed in the battle. It's just too much.

Now that i think of it, Aizen was pretty friendly. His goal was always simply to rule over Soul Society i guess, so he didn't actively aim to kill anyone.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on October 12, 2012, 06:00:39 PM
Im pretty sure 0 is gonna be tough..Juba who has Yama's Bankai called for a retreat so that's indication that 0 Squad is serious enough.

Yeah Lego Azien's seemed to want to become God(Spirit King) as his whole goal was to use Ichigo's hometown as a key to open up the realm or whatever.

And to be honest in all the epicness that Bleach is right now it feels abit rushed. I mean we've seen how powerful Yama is even without his bankai and he was effortlessly cut down.  Also I'm not sure why Juba has War potentials if he's on par with Yama. I don't even wanna hear Ichigo is on par, and his copy brutalized Zarakai so Im looking for some things to be explained.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 17, 2012, 06:30:12 AM
So yeaup it was ichigo.

Really felt this chapter. Can't wait for it to start. I hope he isnt wiped out.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 17, 2012, 09:43:23 AM
yes ichigo. but who the *censored* was the other guy? aslo.

dat art for this chapter 0_0

it's been awesome recently. but i think he geared it up a few notches this round.

also this

(http://fs01.manga-access.com/manga/151/140369/0019.jpg)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 17, 2012, 12:08:37 PM
Yeah agree with you on those counts too. But man did he put on a rage face. That was intense.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 24, 2012, 05:11:51 AM
It's awesome that ichigo has a come back, but to be honest i'm a bit appalled at this development. I can't make sense of how ichigo happens to be THAT as well. I mean what the heck is he?

A little hints along the way would've been nice.

But it's a definate relief over the alternative. And bach seems to be a bit... monstrous
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 24, 2012, 09:57:08 AM
DAFUQ IS GOING ON
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 24, 2012, 12:48:15 PM
I've calmed down a little to accept it mebe but it's still a bit of a shock.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 24, 2012, 04:05:32 PM
well i'm finding it hard to believe that he's actually a quincy. There has to be some other explanation in there. though given his dad's familiarity with them. and the fact that kubo said we'd be getting more info on isshin...

hell i don't know
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on October 24, 2012, 05:09:45 PM
Well Quincy are human and Ichigo is infact human as well, so its not entirely shocking he is capable of learning Quincy Techniques. Quincy have only been defined as spiritual aware humans able to absorb Reishi. Ichigo has never been a true Soul Reaper, his methods of gaining strength always unorthodox and pretty much unique, bar his hollowfication. He was able to master fullbring, and able to regain his Zanpukuto when it was said to be impossible by the weapon itself, so seeing this just evens the playing field, because I was personally at a lost on how he was gonna match someone capable of killing Yammoto.

As far as how he learned Blut Vene I don't know and my guess is as good as any but the fact Ichigo has always been a "special case" leaves room for this to be completely reasonable in my opinion.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on October 24, 2012, 05:25:20 PM
Also I have a theory after reading this chapter. Isshin is infact a Soul Reaper and though his history is pretty vague, the key figure  is ichigo's mother, who we know the least about. She could have in fact been a Quincy and Isshin could have easily fled Soul Society to be with his forbidden Quincy lover. It would not only example the Blut Vene but also explain the great spiritual awareness throughout his family and his seemingly unlimited potential...the Shinigami/ Quincy Hybrid.

Perfectly ironic for an individual who belongs to both to end the 1,000 year war between the two sides,not to mention a great twist. It's only an educated guess drawn from holes in the story yet to be revealed to us,and I wouldn't be surprised if I was completely off, but I think its a reasonable assumption, given what we know.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 24, 2012, 05:54:55 PM
I was making around the same conclusion. If Ichigo's mom was a quincy i hope she was a relatively good one. I'm still bothered by her death. And if it's 'quincy' deaths i'm worried about, there's Ishida's grandfather. Both people who at the very least should've been protected by stronger ones (ichigo's mom by isshin, even though he was weak, ishida's grandfather, by ryuuken, though the fact that 'the last quincy' was taken down by a couple of hollows was shocking in on itself'.

I truly look forward to an Ishida power up though.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 24, 2012, 06:31:29 PM
yeh. that's basically what i got too. But i don't know. seems too obvious? but can't say i've ever made an accurate prediction about this story.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 24, 2012, 06:43:13 PM
You've got me there. I completely thought the quincy theorists were wrong.

But long on the bright side. Ichigo is still swinging. I would've been depressed if he was really completely beaten like that.

Is the getsuga explosion tinged with quincy energy or that's just wind pressure?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Jack Melancholy on October 24, 2012, 10:45:24 PM
hello~
I have no clue whats going on with Bleach. I dropped off as soon as the bount or w/e theyre called came in. go bored =_=
should have stayed though. its gotten a lot more popular and i saw fan pics of ichigo full hallow. that stuff is epic.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 25, 2012, 08:24:41 AM
Read the manga. It was the best decision i made. The bount filler arc was also pretty terrible, and i'm looking forward to some 2013, 2014 super Bleach OVA that simply animates the cannon. That would be amazing,
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 25, 2012, 02:17:20 PM
*throws a random theory that Ishida will steal Ichigo's bankai, or Ichigo will steal someone's bankai
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 29, 2012, 03:13:07 PM
Horrible lazy sketchout of my theory. I'll add script between the lines to help you make sense of it all...




*A black blade rises to the screen. it's TENSA ZANGETSU. The area is Hueco Mundo's desert.
Ichigo: Getsuga...

*The silhouette of ICHIGO IN BANKAI releasing The attack. Screaming quincies fly in the air as they are decimated
Ichigo: TENSHOU!!!!


*A quincy runs away as another getsuga sends a comrade flying as he screams "AAAAH!"
Quincy: h-his a monster!!!!

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/legomaestro/bleach597p1.png)





*Close up on the side view of ichigo's face. His hair seems to hide his eyes. He watches as numerous quincies, bearing the banner of the Iacto Arme (sp?) appear at the crest of the hill
Quincy 1: Don't be cowards!
Quincy 2: Get him!

*Ichigo swings his sword to the left as quincies aim their bows
Ichigo: Let's crush them, Zangetsu.
Quincy 1: Get him!
Quincy 2: Aim...!

*Close up on Ichigo's face
Quincy 2: FIRE!

*Bleach title runs to the left of the whole page: BLEACH 597: BLACK STAR RISING

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/legomaestro/bleach597p2-1.png)



*Two quincies fire their bows (Jing! Jing!)

*A bow rushes up to behind ichigo's head (Whiiiish!)

*Close up on ichigo's unsmiling expression. Then-

*(Boom! Boom! Boom!) Explosions engulf him

*Cut to smiling quincies.

Quincy 1: We got him!
Quincy 2: heh

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/legomaestro/bleach597p3-1.png)




*One quincy looks ahead at the rising smoke while the companion laughs

Quincy: haha

*A black figure that can only be ichigo, raising an already flaring blade rises.

Quincy: Huh?

*Black.

*ON SCREEN: QUINCY HQ. The quincies at their computers, watching the readings of casualties.

Quincy Tech: Numerous casualties! 50... 100... 200...!!!

* Quincy Tech: 900!!!
   Quincy Tech 2 (panicked, shouting to the others.): Where the hell are the Sternritter?

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/legomaestro/bleach597p4-1.png)




*Quincy Tech (tapping on keyboard.): Calling them NOW.

Quincy Tech 2: Wait!

*Quincy Tech (turns around, annoyed.): What the hell for??!!

*Close up on Quincy Tech 2's mouth.

Quincy Tech 2: A... A message from his majesty

Quincy Tech 1: huh?

*semi close up on Ichigo's turning eyes as he notices someone off screen.

*Close up of a quincy cross medallion

Quincy Tech 2 (Voice over screen): They're sending in HIM.

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/legomaestro/bleach597p5-1.png)




*Quincy Tech 2: The last quincy... Uryuu Ishida!!!

*Close up of ishida's back. He is dressed in sternritter attire. Ichigo is holding his blade and looks over with an open mouth. Can't see his eyes from here.

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/legomaestro/bleach597p6-1.png)




*Side by side close ups of ISHIDA and ICHIGO.

Ichigo: Ishida!!???

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/legomaestro/bleach597p7-1.png)




*Ichigo looks happy to see him
Ichigo: You're ok! Thats-
Ishida (cuts in): Kurosaki.

*Close up on Ishida correcting his glasses with one finger (shift)

Ishida: What are you doing?

*Ichigo: What do you mean? You don't know about the war?

*Ishida and Ichigo in the same frame facing eachother from far. Ichigo is looking over his shoulder though.

Ishida: War? What war?

Ichigo: Are you serious? These guys... They destroyed Soul Society. They killed the old man...

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/legomaestro/bleach597p8.png)




*Ichigo clenches his fist and shouts: They killed thousands of shiningami!!! Kojiro! Byakuya! They killed-

Ishida: Shut up

*Close up on his face.

Ishida: I see... so that is what you meant by "War."

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/legomaestro/bleach597p9-1.png)




*Ichigo: What the hell is wrong with you Ishida?

*Ishida: With me?

*Overhead view of ichigo and ishida, framing fallen quincy as well.

Ishida: Shiningami massacred us first. They killed humans they were meant to protect. They wiped out families, tortured them, ground them into bones and blood. THEY KILLED US ALL.

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/legomaestro/bleach597p10.png)




*Ishida (looking at the ground somewhere): Look

* Ichigo follows his gaze

* We see the body of a female quincy, her hair and cap hides her face. Ishida and Ichigo in the background.

Ishida: Her name was Michelle Vodstok. She had siblings, and a husband.

*Ichigo is shocked.

*Ishida (rummages in his left pocket): Ichigo...

*Ishida (Holds out BANKAI STEALING MEDALLION): You disgust me

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/legomaestro/bleach597p11-1.png)




* Ichigo's Tensa Zangetsu falls away from him as it is sucked up (Wob)

* Ishida's medallion crackles with black energy. Finished stealing the bankai (Bzzt.)

Ishida: Now...

*Ishida's quincy cross glows with energy as he turns it into a weapon (Shhhing)

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/legomaestro/bleach597p12.png)




*Reiatsu flows as Ishida stands wrapped up in Tensa Zangetsu.

Ishida: What are the words again?

His weapon fully forms in his left hand (shing!)

*Ichigo (wide eyes): Ishi-
Ishida: ah...

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/legomaestro/bleach597p13.png)




*Ishida adjusts his glasses : I'm so silly. It's so simple to remember ... you shout it all the time...

*Ichigo looks on with a slightly open mouth. His expression hidden

*Ishida raises his bow. Black energy forms along it's crest. (zzzzz)


*Close up on Ishida's gloating face

Ishida: Getsuga... TENSHOU.

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/legomaestro/bleach597p14.png)




Ichigo hit with a full blast getsuga.


(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/legomaestro/bleach597p15.png)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on October 30, 2012, 07:03:14 AM
walks to the far wall on the right, and proceeds to bang his head against the wall.-

LMAO your theory is amazing Lego, and I'm honestly disappointed it isn't fact at the moment, but totally epic bro.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 30, 2012, 08:44:05 AM
lol Haha thanks RRVII!


And in other news. I loved and hated this chapter, but only in terms of what happened to the characters. I'm very interested in how this goes.

Btw. Did someone's sword just get one hit shattered? O.O
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 30, 2012, 10:12:03 AM
well I hope someone picks up that phone.

CAUSE I *censored*ING CALLED IT!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 30, 2012, 11:57:15 AM
haha! I know that feeling. this is one i guessed too late though
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 02, 2012, 04:54:05 AM
Just noticed Juha Bach's sword blade a resemblance to Ichigo's zangetsu, most obviously in the shikai form. His sword has that curve at the end, and it's even present in the bankai.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: everlastin01 on November 02, 2012, 07:44:13 AM
i got lost in bleach a long time ago.......
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 02, 2012, 08:29:47 AM
At what point?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: everlastin01 on November 02, 2012, 08:41:35 AM
Lost interest in the summer......way too many things to catch up on in teh show and the manga and don't have enough time...like you with my stories i posted
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 02, 2012, 08:46:51 AM
Haha, no actually i have classes throughout the day so i can only get on my computer in the evening
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: everlastin01 on November 02, 2012, 08:52:47 AM
Wait so it is evening where you are....?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on November 02, 2012, 11:56:04 AM
probably morning i think? since he seems to go to sleep in the afternoon for me.


Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 02, 2012, 12:20:56 PM
Wait so it is evening where you are....?

it was morning. I use my phone to log in during the day. Now it's evening so i'l be on my computer now
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: h_musick on November 02, 2012, 01:04:22 PM
OOOO MR mobile!!  :heart: :heart:
soooo anyway! Maybe when you get a chance you could read a few at a time. Thats what i was doing when i was first watching bleach. I would watch an hours worth and then i was catching up fast! I would think it would be the same reading?? *i don't know though!!*  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: everlastin01 on November 02, 2012, 04:15:53 PM
@lego Oh
@h_misick I can't do that....not my style

:sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: h_musick on November 06, 2012, 03:16:38 PM
 :notunderstand:  me not undertand...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 07, 2012, 08:41:08 AM
sad chapter is sad. Liked it though. Glad that people survived that much.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: takahashi on November 07, 2012, 08:45:33 AM
This chapter toned it down a bit.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on November 14, 2012, 07:13:59 AM
So finally Zero Division has arrived. I was wondering who the hell are they for years !


Spoiler
(http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/522263_10151242690823936_861454419_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 14, 2012, 11:10:04 AM
They look like one piece characters. The second to the left especially had me wondering. But it's epic all the same.

Spoiler
I'm shocked about ichigo's bankai though. I was happy that he survived Juha Bach unscathed, and was even thinking he handled that better than aizen, but i'd prefer ichigo was nearly sliced in half than completely losing his bankai. I mean, he just got the damn thing!!!!

Hate that it was only 16 pages, but i'm really interested in which way it's going.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on November 20, 2012, 12:16:55 PM
Chapter title is "Stairway to Heaven".

"Highway to Hell" pops into my head.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 20, 2012, 02:22:32 PM
Might not be a far off analogy. Are we actually going to see the spirit king so fast? And Ichigo is finally going to see a lot into his past. I really wonder about isshin though
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on November 20, 2012, 03:20:27 PM
well i don't know if we'll see the king. assuming Kubo will base the palace on historical palaces. It'll likely be the size of a city.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 20, 2012, 03:42:22 PM
I wonder if it'll just be an empty place? I gotsa see who lives there. Glad that tensa zangetsu isn't just being thrown to the wind. I really want to finally see the actual process of powering down from a bankai. Kubo's never shown it haha
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 29, 2012, 05:05:34 PM
That. Was an excellent chapter on Kubo's part
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on December 05, 2012, 04:32:55 PM
Peaches.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 08, 2012, 02:56:01 PM
Yes. Peaches.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 12, 2012, 06:04:02 AM
HOLY SHEEEEZ. BLEACH 520. AWESOMENESS. PEOPLE LOVE IT. TROLLS LOVE IT. I LOVE IT.

(ahem.)...

...

...

Kenpachi.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on December 12, 2012, 11:34:48 AM
ALL OF MY YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I've been calling it for *censored*ing years! Unohana really is a badass killer!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: takahashi on December 12, 2012, 02:09:04 PM
OMG kenpachi number 1 :o
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 12, 2012, 02:29:47 PM
Exactly.

Kyouraku is awesome.

Impressed by Ichigo too
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 18, 2012, 12:04:17 PM
Black guy representin' hehehe! I'm proud.

And...

DAT FIGURE. DAT FACE. (nosebleed)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on December 18, 2012, 01:45:13 PM
DAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNN
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on January 05, 2013, 01:43:41 AM
Anyone read Bleach chapter 523 ?  Seems its not out there in Manga sites yet or I haven't found it. xD
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on January 05, 2013, 02:36:53 AM
Not on the site i use. Isn't it possible that kubo took off new years or something?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Chelleka on January 05, 2013, 04:27:06 AM
WSJ won't be back until the 3rd week of January, so no Shonen Jump series including Bleach for a while! >.<
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on January 05, 2013, 07:18:49 AM
Ah so Bleach and Naruto fans can take a break. xD
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on January 05, 2013, 12:40:34 PM
T-T nuuuu i want more chapters. But they do deserve the rest. I wish the authors had twitter accounts to follow or something. See what they're up to
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Chelleka on January 05, 2013, 12:50:28 PM
Tite Kubo has a twitter account, although he mainly posts pics of glorious foods. XD
I only know of a handful of authors with twitter accounts, would be really neat if more used it but they're already pretty busy as it is I guess. >>
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on January 05, 2013, 03:02:29 PM
figured that's what was up. Home kubo takes the time to recuperate some.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on January 16, 2013, 03:37:50 PM
Well that was officially terrifying.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on January 16, 2013, 03:44:53 PM
That look.

Froze my fcuking blood
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on January 23, 2013, 05:34:54 AM
I didn't expect that from Ken, but it seems he's a true embodiement of a 'death god'.

I really loved the action. It was stylish. Kubo is really great at doing fights.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on January 30, 2013, 01:17:45 PM
Blood. I see a lot of blood.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on January 30, 2013, 01:47:37 PM
 I missed couple of chapters and have no idea why these 2 killing each other. Could someone put the reason or what happened  inside spoiler tags ? Too lazy to go back and read missed  chapters. lol
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: takahashi on January 30, 2013, 02:02:21 PM
This was a great chapter I already  expected ken to be a bad ass as a kid.

Spoiler
[/they are trying to kill each other because unahana is trying to get Ken to the level he was at when he was a child and the only way to do this is to fight to the death. spoiler]they are trying to kill each other because unahana is trying to get Ken to the level he was at when he was a child and the only way to do this is to fight to the death.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Chelleka on January 30, 2013, 04:04:45 PM
Three weeks without Bleach was horrible...but it seems like I didn't miss much. xD
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on January 30, 2013, 07:14:00 PM
It's been...forever...life calls but...I'm back and I'm jumping right in.

I'm not happy with this whole Kenpachi thing. First we learn Unohana is this bad ass known as the worst criminal in soul society's history, only to be bested by...a child? I mean...seriously?

Then Ken somehow suppresses his strength  because he didn't want to kill the only person who served as competition? Why didn't they just introduce him to Yamamoto I'm sure he would have had plenty of challenge then.

Now Unohana is just gonna repeatedly kill and resurrect him, until he regains his suppressed strength and kills her?  Kubo has done some genius work, but this in my opinion is just like Ichigo's sudden come up to defeating Azien. It feels like a crude means to an end. If Kubo has lacked in anything in this series its overall getting his characters to the next level, without it seeming like okay here's this sudden dues ex machina to give youa  huge power increase to trample the current villain.

On a more positive note the art work has been amazing, and I do like the back story that's being revealed with the Zero Squad. It's refreshing to see their not all hard asses and their personalities actually make sense with their contributions to the current shinigami way, for the three that have been covered so far. 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on January 30, 2013, 08:07:41 PM
Unohana is basically training him to his best potential.
Even if it kills her...... well I  oppose some other ideas but this method of training
Is genius......good work kubo.
Sorry for unohana though I really hated when she said that ken was stronger than her...... :sadbye:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on January 30, 2013, 08:25:56 PM
Yeah i don't want her to get wiped out. I think this storyline is actually great. I guess Ken has always been mad for fights. I really hope she doesn't die but this arc has been merciless in that aspect. Kubo's really upped his story-telling game, i love this arc. But i'm a bit sad because the end approaches.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on January 31, 2013, 10:46:21 AM
I agree Kubo's always been a master storyteller....but I've never agreed with his end or arc power increases. Like when Ichigo lost his shinigami powers. Why go through all that fullbring business if the captains could have just have given him his powers back it was the first time the manga felt like it had filler. Like I loved when he was training to defeat the Espada it was an available method that didn't seemingly fall out of the sky, and even with it, still didn't give him all he needed.

And while I won't call the 1000 rebirths genius I do hope it pays off. Hate to see all of that, Unohana dying( Especially when her character finally becomes important) and the Ken's still tossed aside but Juhabach and company. I'm not sure where Ken's maximum potential will land him on the scale but it's a scary thought if he surpasses Yamma xD.

(Ichigo will still surpass all because It's Ichigo.)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on January 31, 2013, 02:26:55 PM
Maybe you've got it reversed. The powers were lent to him as a response to the  full-bringer business. I really don't want unohana to die too though that would suck majorly.

I just hope Rukia gets to reach new levels of pwnage
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on February 01, 2013, 01:56:43 PM
Yeah, just like he received his initial Shinigami powers in a response to that hollow coming into Karakura Town. The "why" isn't necessarily what I'm talking about it's the "how." I know I asked the question why go through that, but it's obviously something that wasn't outside of Urahara's capbilities. Ichigo's shinigami's powers were said to be lost forever, and obviously this wasn't the case, but it falls into the category I'm talking about because it was a spontaneous power increase he went from depowered-fullbringer-depowered- Shinigami (But it was impossible!) again...who totally wipes the floor with Kugo.

 
I hope alot of characters get to prove themselves over these final chapters but how it looks, Ichigo, Renji, and Kenpachi are going to be the Vanguard against Blackbread and his band of salty rangers...unless the salty ones have more in store!(Stolen Bankai?!) 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 01, 2013, 02:18:04 PM
I really do wonder how Haschwald broke Ichigo's bankai.

On the power thing they simply said 'he'd lose all his powers'. For one thing his father clearly did as well some point earlier so i'm guessing the technique always leaves that residual energy in your body.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: ReasonRevolutionaryVII on February 01, 2013, 05:26:59 PM
He probably did it with some Quincy technique. It's funny how alot of people were saying the Quincy were weak and they had to steal the bankai's but obviously thats not the case. What I really want to see is the original war.

Also with the powers my main point is I personally don't like when people receive large power increases from seemingly no way, just to move the story. Bleach is awesome but Kubo himself as said it's been a learning experience in closing his arcs out....which is where he's included the power increases..which is one of my only gripes with the series.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 02, 2013, 03:10:05 AM
Hm i can hear that out.

As for the quincy war yes this is something i want to see. In fact though i hate it usually for other stuff i want bleach to have extra stuff pinned to the manga. An OVA or two, some great video games to add to the story. I really
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 20, 2013, 06:30:39 AM
brilliant bleach chapter. Kubo has not only become great at action but story telling as well

I really, really  want to make something like this someday.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: takahashi on February 20, 2013, 09:45:37 AM
This was truly a great chapter. :D
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on February 20, 2013, 01:20:15 PM
I have so man emotions about this.

you don't even know
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on February 21, 2013, 01:12:49 AM
Good chapter but hate the ending......._.)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 21, 2013, 01:14:34 AM
yeah no kidding.

... the guy can never catch a break huh. For once he can't just get an epic upgrade and plough through his training like any shounen character?


meanwhile renji redeems himself.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on February 21, 2013, 01:19:28 AM
Well hopefully some glitch happens and ichigo powers through......
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 21, 2013, 03:07:21 AM
Yeah. Maybe he'll meet up with Ishida and get helped out. i'm begging that he doesn't get too depressed
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on February 22, 2013, 01:33:30 AM
So another caption gone it seems ...  They are running outta captions pretty fast.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on February 22, 2013, 08:40:59 AM
I just hope trading her for a full power kenpachi will be worth the trade off. obviously she thought so I guess.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 22, 2013, 10:20:29 AM
Man if the old timers are dying then Ukitake or Shunsui is next... most likely Ukitake. The guy has always been sickly anyways...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on February 22, 2013, 08:14:21 PM
Hmm I still widh unohana was alive.....well she died for her own purpose
And she saw it very important.......
Well the show must go on..... :sheep:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 23, 2013, 02:49:35 AM
Didn't really like that too. She was a fun character to see
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 27, 2013, 04:18:44 AM
So i guess my long year of doubting bleach has completely vanished. from here on out i comment on the things that are happening. And i say phoey to story structure and whatever. i'm sitting down to enjoy this ish.

Btw as you may have guessed. I loved this chapter. FINALLY WE SEE THE BACKSTORY. I MEAN FINALLY.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 06, 2013, 10:45:46 AM
And so he appears again... Oh man bleach just go ahead and be a monthly so that i get to see 40+ juicy pages in one sitting.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on March 06, 2013, 10:58:20 AM
but the wait would b terrible  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 06, 2013, 11:11:09 AM
this did not occur to me
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 14, 2013, 05:22:57 AM
"I wanna pee alone" ~ Isshin Shiba
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on March 14, 2013, 07:44:00 AM
Bleach: It's a serious manga for serious people, seriously.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Fulgrate on March 19, 2013, 04:58:24 PM
The end of the chapter with the Vasto Lorde: EPIC.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 19, 2013, 05:42:53 PM
I know right? It explains fullbring... and most likely hollow ichigo.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Fulgrate on March 19, 2013, 06:06:21 PM
Yeah, and I bet its stronger than the majority of the arrancars and Espadas. If that THING was turned into an arrancar, its base form alone could probably taken on the bankai of many of the captains{and note that some captains only needed their Shikai to take out most threats.  :ohmy:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 19, 2013, 06:11:48 PM
Haha yeah i never thought of that. If it gained sentience then it would be number one. Look at what it did to uluqiorra. If it beat Ichigo's dad then you just know it's a problem.

The best thing is that this absolutely explains everything about ichigo's abnormal power ups, his mixed powers and stuff. Of course, haters will still find room to hate. because haters hate >.>

too bad we have to wait till next week though T-T
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Fulgrate on March 19, 2013, 11:27:15 PM
I wonder if both parents lost their powers because Isshin used Final Getsuga and Misaki used the same form Uryuu used in SS that causes a Quincy to lose their powers.

Speaking of which, if Ywach used his Final Quincy form + Yamamoto's Bankai, not even Final Getsuga Ichigo teamed up with Monster Aizen could take him I think. Unles Ichigo's Final Getsuga form is so unsually powerful, then I'm guessing just Ichigo alone would be able to go toe to toe with Ywach.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 20, 2013, 05:11:28 AM
Ywach? That's the new romanization? And yes. Pretty much that. He's immensely powerful in the riduculous sort of way. I don't know what kind of power ichigo will need but it had better be good. But look at it this way, Ywach clearly isn't god-like yet otherwise he could've hung around for the zero division and finish the fight.

And that matches my theory too!  About them losing their powers. It's the only thing that makes sense.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Fulgrate on March 20, 2013, 07:14:54 PM
Yep, Ywach is the official romanization, straight from the japanese offices of Shonen Jump and published stateside in the online, english version of the Shonen Jump magazine. It doesn't get anymore official than that.  :thumbsup:

Ywach, in his base form is probably stronger than even the bankai of the stronger captains. A Stern Ritter mimicking his power was able to beat Kenpachi who in his own base form is stronger than the bankai of average level captains.

And we have SS Ishida, who at the time, was probably as strong as a Vice Captain, but when he went Let Stil, had power greater than a captain in Bankai. If a Quincy with a base power of a VC can achieve that level, then a Quincy who's base power is probably equal an extremely strong Captain's bankai, when going either Let Still or Volstandig, will probably achieve power AT least half of a transcandental. Maybe Ywach wouldn't reach transcandental, but he'd maybe be half of that. :push:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 21, 2013, 08:59:23 AM
I can follow your logic here very much so. Letz Stil clearly annihilated  Kurotsuchi's bankai. almost the person himself too.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Fulgrate on March 21, 2013, 01:26:40 PM
I know its a bit silly, but I compiled a list of "power levels" all the way up to the end of the Aizen saga. It's not exactly "attack power" but rather, a median of all their attributes, both offensive, defensive, and special, represented in a single number. That way, even those without offensive abilities can still be rated.

I put it in a spoiler tag, I did this list about a year ago.

Spoiler

Karakura Arc:

Ichigo: 350+ Note: Fluctuates.
Normal Hollows: 50-70
Strong Hollows: 150 to 500

Ishida: 200 - 270
Chad: 230
Ichigo: 350 - 2,000
Menos Grande: 2,900

Ichigo: 350 - 600.
Grand Fisher: 750

Soul Society Arc:

Rukia's Departure:

Renji (Shikai) =Human World= : 900
Byakuya = Human World = : 3,400
Ichigo: 2,100

Ryoka arrival:

Ichigo: 6,000
Ishida: 700
Chad: 1,300
Orihime: 190
Ganju: 210

Yumichika: 1,050*
Ikakku(Shikai): 3,320
RenjiShikai) 4,500

VS Captains:

Kenpachi Fight:

Ichigo: 6,400
Zaraki Kenpachi(patched): 37,000

Ichigo (Shikai Swell): 34,000
Kenpachi (unpatched): 65,000 (after Shikai desonance) 30,000>.

Ishida vs Mayuri:

Ishida: 740
Mayuri(shikai): 4,900

Ishida (Final Form): 70,000+
Mayuri(Bankai): 23,000

Renji vs Byakuya:

Renji(Shikai): 6,400
Byakuya(Shikai): 17,000

Renji(Bankai): 15,000 >
Byakuya(Bankai): 34,000

Sokyoku:

Average Vice Captain: 1,500 - 3,300
Soifon(Shikai): 7,800
Yuroichi(out of shape): 7,300 (after shunko) 39,000
Yamamoto(Shikai): 90,000+
Shunsui(Shikai): 43,000*
Ukitake(Shikai): 33,000

Kenpachi vs Tousen and Komamura
Kenpachi: 37,000 (Patched)
Tousen(Shikai): 6,900 (After Bankai) 18,000
Komamura (Shikai): 9,500 (After Bankai) 20,500


Ichigo vs Byakuya:

Ichigo(Shikai): 10,200
Byakuya(Shikai): 17,000 (after bankai) 34,000

Ichigo(Bankai): 26,000> (Power goes down as fight progressed.)
Ichigo(Hollow): 36,200

Aizen’s Retreat
Aizen: 75,000
Menos Grande: 2,500 – 3,000
Gin(Shikai): 16,000

Arrancar Arc:

Espada Arrival:

Yammy: 9,500
Ulquiorra: 34,000+

Ichigo(Bankai): 20,000 ~ (Power fluctuated)

Espada Invasion:

Fraccion: 2,000 - 5,000
Grimmjow: 21,000

Rukia(Shikai): 3,600
Matsumoto(Shikai): 3,100 (After Limit Release)
Chad: 1,300
Toushirou(Bankai): 4,900 (before Limit Release) 24,500 (Full power)
Ichigo(Bankai): 17,000>

2nd Match:

Grimmjow: 21,000
Ichigo(Bankai): 17,000
Ichigo(Hollow Mask): 30,000

Hueco Mundo Arc: (From here, I’ll use a different format)
Good guys
Ichigo: 12,000 (with bankai) 21,000 – 29,000 (Using Vaizard Mask) 33,000 – 37,000 (After Resolve while masked) 47,000 (Hollow 2) 350,000
Nel: 700 (When using anti-cero attacks or using super speed.) 15,000 (Adult form) 20,000 (Resurrecion) 35,000
Ishida(with power returned): 2,700 (When using most powerful Quincy arrow) 19,000
Chad: 3,900 (After gaining brazo of Gigante) 7,000 (After gaining other brazo) 10,800
Pesche: 2,000 (Maximum)
Dondochaka: 3,000 (Maximum)
Renji(Shikai): 6,900 (After Bankai) 15,000
Rukia(Shikai): 5,000
Byakuya(Bankai): 35,000
Kenpachi: 37,000 (After patch is gone) 96,000
Bad Guys
ESPADA
1# Stark: 39,000
2# Barragan: 37,600
3# Halibel: 35,500
4# Ulquiorra: 34,000
5# Noitora: 29,000 (Ressureccion) 58,000
6# Grimmjow: 21,000 (Ressureccion) 40,700
7# Zommari: 17,000 (Ressureccion) 33,000
8# Szayel: 15,000 (Ressureccion) 28,000
#9 Aaroniero: 10,100 (Ressureccion) 19,000
#10 Yammy: 9,500
PRIVARON
Dordoni: 7,800 (After Ressureccion) 15,000
Gantenbeinne: 4,300 (After Ressureccion) 9,000
Cirrucci: 5,700 (After Ressureccion) 13,700

Winter War Arc
ESPADA
1# Stark: 39,000 (After Ressureccion) 69,000
Lillynette: 5,000
2# Barragan: 37,600 (After Ressureccion) 67,000
3# Halibel: 35,500 (After Ressureccion) 64,000
4# Ulquiorra: 34,000 (After Ressureccion) 60,000 (Segunda Etupa) 200,000~
#0 Yammy: 20,000 (After Ressureccion) 105,000
Fraccion: 5,000 – 9,000, (After Ressureccion) 10,000 – 18,000
Wonderweiss: 49,000 (After Ressureccion) 81,000
SHINIGAMI
Yamamoto(Shikai, no holding back): 130,000
Shunsui(Shikai): 45,000
Ukitake(Shikai): 33,000
Soifon(Shikai): 11,000 (After Bankai) 29,000
Toushiro: 13,000(After Bankai) 30,000
Komamura (Shikai): 10,700 (After Bankai) 24,000
Vice Captains(Shikai): 4,000 – 7,000, 13,900(Yumichika’s Shikai noted to be nearly as powerful as average Bankai.)
AIZEN'S GROUP
Aizen: 75,000 (Shikai) 106,000
Gin(Shikai): 18,000
Tousen: 9,400 (After Mask) 21,000 (Hollow 2) 34,000
VAIZARD:
Hiyori: 6,000 (Mask) 13,000 (Mask + Shikai) 20,000
Shinji: 9,900 (Mask) 23,000 (Shikai) 18,000 (Shikai + Mask) 36,000
Lisa(Mask): 14,500 (Shikai + Mask) 21,000
Rose(Mask + Shikai): 38,000
Love (Mask + Shikai): 35,000
Kensei(Mask+Shikai): 33,000 (Bankai) 43,000
Mashiro (Mask): 16,000
Hachigen (Mask + Kidou): 34,000

HOGYOKU AWAKENING:
Good Guys:
Ichigo(Bankai)(After being healed by Unohana): 46,500^ with hidden power at 200,000, (After Dangai) 1,720,000 (Mugetsu) 3,600,000
Isshin(Sealed Sword): 35,000
Urahara(Sealed Sword): 30,000
Yuroichi(With Gloves): 37,000
Aizen's Group:
Aizen: 75,000 (During Pupa State) 390,000 (Hatched) 550,000 (Butterfly State) 750,000 (Monster Aizen) 1,350,000
Gin(Shikai): 18,000 , (Bankai) 43,000 (Real Bankai) 90,000
================================================== ===================
I'll do the FullBring Arc along with the Thousand Year Blood War Arc in their own thread.
Also, if your wondering how somebody with a fighting power of 20,000 can defeat somebody with a power of 50,000, things like skill, intellegence, and tactics, as well as the fact that sweeper types can match balanced types nearly equally at only half the fighting power if they fight well.
Most Espada are BALANCE types, which means their defense, offense, and speed are nearly well rounded, while most SHINIGAMI are sweeper types, meaning their offense or speed may be quite high, but they may have incredibly poor defense.
Example:
SHINIGAMI ESPADA
OFFENSE: 25 25
DEFENSE: 5 20 (Thanks to Hierro)
SPEED: 25 25
SENSE: 10 20
FIGHTING POWER: 65 90
That is why you see matches where somebody with only half can still defeat somebody far stronger than them, while in others, two fighters with the same differences results in a single-sided match.
Don't forget, depending on the power of the attack, the full offense might not be realized. Example is Kenpachi, his power is estimated to be around 90,000+, but because he swings with a single hand, his attack power won't truly reflect his full potential except when using Kendo.
Basically, Fighting Power determines the likelihood of somebody winning a duel rather than the destructive power of a person. That is why things like non-offensive and passive shikais can still be formulated into the fighting power analysis.

Also, I estimate Grimmjow's Segunda Etupa to be over 103,000 when he does return in the Blood War Arc. Maybe 200,000 if the enemies are THAT powerful?

Edit: Of course, at the time I made it, I knew I was a bit off on a few and after the Vandereich invasion, I need to make some changes, as for some captains, I've underestimated their power, even if it appears to already be high on the list, it's even higher.  :ohmy:

Anyways, if you look at the SS arc, in the Ishida fight, I put his rating to be at least triple that of Mayuri's  Bankai for him to be able to take it on with such ease, if he had experience with that power, he would have been able to use its full potential.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 21, 2013, 01:47:29 PM
Wow you really put a lot of work into this. Nice.

Incidentally though, Kubo's art books have character data. For simpler access the bleach wiki can show you their actual power levels. would be fun to see if your analysis is on point.

Hm... I'm not sure if Griimjow has a segunda etapa though. It would be sweet if he had one.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Fulgrate on March 21, 2013, 04:08:00 PM
Yeah, I got a character data book. {Speaking of which, I should take a look at it again.} Unless yourt alking about a book I haven't seen yet, the hexagons showing their stats unfortunately only show their "potential" in that stat, rather than the actual, present stat.

It's like the pokemon hexagons, showing their stat potential distribution, but not their actual power.

The hexagons represent how their stats grow in relation to each other. So if a shinigami or hollow trained for 10 years and became 10 times more powerful, their stat distribution would still be the same.

You mean these things right?{Found it on google.}
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110909183918/bleachfanfiction/images/thumb/8/88/Stats_Chart_(Bleach)_-_Kyosuke.png/411px-Stats_Chart_(Bleach)_-_Kyosuke.png)

Thats why the stat distribution doesn't exceed 100. Otherwise, Aizen couldn't be several times more powerful than average captains.

For example, Kenpachi is shown to have inferior stats in other places to captains, with his reitsu at 100. Because he is of a higher "level" so to speak, even his weaker stats are still twice that of people with ratings in the 80s and 90s.

I hope that explains it.  :push: Maybe for a clearer example, Pokemon use to use those hexagons in their strategy guides before switching to the "coler coded bars" which mean the same thing, they call it "base stats".

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb99/BFC_photo/basestats.png)

I analyze numbers because I'm trying to make a complex fighting system where fights can be determined via calculations, that way, a fight won't feel fake in some way.  :noidea:

Also, the stat list might work with the list I made. You just gotta divide the number in proportion to the five stats listed. But the number I came up also takes into accounts stats that the hexagon might not cover, but it still might work anyway just to find the actual dynamic power.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Tostificer on March 21, 2013, 04:36:12 PM
Lego could tell you quite a lot about this. Dystopic Blades (http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,4199.0.html), a story made by him, is a story that involves 1v1 fights with characters we came up with, with the winner calculated by stats and luck.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 21, 2013, 04:48:48 PM
Like toasty said i did work on that. The second one is going to be even more insanse such that i'll need to program it (though it has been on haitus as a result...). what are you working on? your story?

And yes i meant those hexagons. Are you sure it specifically means 'potential?' it only says 'battle data' here but ah well.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Fulgrate on March 21, 2013, 10:30:46 PM
Tostificer: Ah, Dystopic Blades is quite a work. Neat to see that somebody uses such a system to calculate fights.

Legomaestro: Your work is awesome, how do you handle sudden power growths during a fight?

I actually have no idea the official name of those hexagon things.  :sleep: When I type "stat hexagon" only two appear as stat related, while the rest are hexagons of other things. Yeah, I mean battle data. But I feel that what was published in the book isn't the "actual, present, and relative to another" shinigami's stats. I guess I feel strongly because a bunch of people were whining that the "official" powerlevels weren't accurate in a bleach thread.  :hmm: And a bunch of us were trying to explain to them that it isn't the actual powerlevels, but the "frame" or "structure" of their stats. Sorry, I went data output mode here.  :(

Yeah, I've been working on my story, as well as how fights are handled in it. I have to be able to do things like calculate how much effort in an attack results in an OHKO between two people of equal physical density or how a fight between somebody that is pure speed versus somebody of pure strength but with equal fighting prowess would fight.

Here is how I handle stat calculations in my story:

A simplified example, as I don't really use 2 stats, but 15 individual stats. Fighter A vs Fighter B.
Fighting prowess: A 80.5 vs B 80.5
Strength: A: 160, B: 1
Speed: A: 1, B: 160

1 being equal to an average human {15 mph}, and 1 strength being equal to what an average human can pick up {150 lbs.}

To get their fighting prowess, just add speed and strength, and divide it by 2{the number of stats}.

Because both have equal fighting prowess, this means they both have an equal chance of winning, even though they have completely different stats.

And it isn't a totally 1 sided fight either, despite having only 1 strength, the speed fighter can do things like gain incredible momentum from his speed and collide against the strength fighter with the amassed intertia. The strength fighter also isn't limited to his low mobility of 15mph, he can pass great distances by launching himself like a rocket using his super strength, of course, such a method of mobility has its weaknesses{linear movement}.

At least in my system, even a fighter that looks specialized can use techniques to utilize their best stat for something else. This was something that always annoyed me in games where if somebody amassed too much of a stat, they couldn't use it for anything else. Somebody, I'm turning it into a game design.{The real system uses 15 stats like I mentioned before, the reason is because I feel a lot of games are too simplified and sometimes they'll have moves that have no explanation to them other than they "just are" or "just because."

Sorry if I rant a lot about stats, I'm an amateur game designer, its been on the side as a hobby while drawing was my main focus all these years.

Anyways, in Bleach, when I see a fight, I always try to determine a characters stats based on their feats, how well they take damage, and so on.

Speaking of which, I always wondered how Hierro works. Is it always active or only activated when they focus.

Well, in either case, later on, I'm gonna re-read the new arc of Bleach and try to determine levels for the fun of it. I find it good practice for when I have to write fights and determine how the mechanics work.





Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Fulgrate on April 02, 2013, 05:56:04 PM
Whoa, latest chapter! I was not expecting that ending.  :ohmy: Intense!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 02, 2013, 06:08:05 PM
chapter 531 right? ...?

Post Merge: April 03, 2013, 12:33:16 PM
Ichigo's mom was badass


Bleach 533. Loved this chapter. So many story lines coming together. Kubo's narrative skills showing through.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Fulgrate on April 15, 2013, 04:54:06 PM
Yes, simply awesome chapters these past few weeks. I wonder if it will show them fighting some super powerful hollow later on, like a Vasto Lorde with the Reitsu of Yamamoto or a Zero Squad member with the equivalent of bankai for pure hollows.  I wonder how Isshin will show his final getsuga and Masaki her Lets Stil which causes them to both lose their powers.

I wonder how things will occur.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 26, 2013, 12:44:32 PM
Looks like isshin lost his powers from the gigai and not the final getsuga. One theory shot down. I'm not sure about masaki though
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 08, 2013, 11:17:58 AM
Brilliant chapter.

Finally the answers come piling in.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 08, 2013, 12:57:13 PM
Masaki = Perverted teenager.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 08, 2013, 01:53:46 PM
kubo actual showed a nude shot. muchly appreciated
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 15, 2013, 11:11:57 AM
CALLED IT. CAAAALLLED IT. It wasn't perfect, but i knew he'd do that hahaha
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 15, 2013, 11:35:44 AM
Nope, I can't believe he's gone villain. He's got a scheme or something.

We now know that they killed his mother after all, it's got to be revenge or something.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 15, 2013, 11:43:29 AM
Yeah but let's hope he doesn't turn out like gin.

Also, i'll love to see his new spirit weapon, and if he steals a bankai. It better be good muhuhahaha
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 15, 2013, 11:56:14 AM
Yeh, I mean Kubo has always had trouble killing off characters, but with this recent arc, I'm starting to think it's not beyond him to.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 16, 2013, 12:34:36 AM
I'm not really looking forward to that though. Apart from the quincies (exempt uryuu) i really don't wanna see people drop.

I must say again though inoue and chad should just stay away. they will absolutely die if they keep on joining in the fighting
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on May 16, 2013, 12:58:37 AM
It's possible, we still really haven't seen exactly how they've developed though.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Fulgrate on May 20, 2013, 11:35:42 PM
Ywach is now officially Ichigo's main villain. Ichigo for years blamed himself for what happened when it was actually Ywach behind what happened. That look on Ichigo when he realized this really showed his determination to defeat him. You know with that resolve that Ichigo's going to pool his powers together and become strong fast.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 21, 2013, 04:25:24 AM
Yeah pretty much. But it's also Aizens fault to a large extent. Masaki would've definately lived if A. Isshin had his powers or B. If she was only quincy and Ywach didn't deem her 'impure'. Or at least that's what i think.

I still think he's way beyond ichigo though. Sure, ichigo managed to burn him a little and fray his clothing but i can't see him surviving Yamamoto's bankai without any sort of protection.

I'm really looking forward to see what weapon he will get next, whether he'll develop his quincy powers or try to get the sword fixed again.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 20, 2013, 04:04:12 AM
Epic stuff bleach. I'll need to see how Ichigo fights with those swords
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on June 20, 2013, 08:23:32 AM
Yeah and that was unexpected. I was looking for some kinda another big sword.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 20, 2013, 08:38:10 AM
Me too actually. Or a sealed zanpakutou.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 05, 2013, 02:52:00 PM
So ishida knows why his mother died... and he still joined the vadenreich?

Okay man, i know you'll be one tough cookie and put up a hell of a fight, but I can wait to see you go down. Ichigo will be too mindscrewed to deal with him properly though.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 05, 2013, 08:44:09 PM
I still don't think everything is so clear cut. If second in command blond guy can figure out Ishida is being toyed with, then sure as hell Ishida figured it out too.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 05, 2013, 11:47:20 PM
I can see that i guess.

Also one other thing, if there is no grimmjow in the next chapter  i will raeg!!! Man i want to see that person.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 23, 2013, 01:06:08 AM
Can't believe this thing is almost ending... 5 weeks haitus huh. I really can't wait to see what happens.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 14, 2013, 03:46:13 PM
And the final stretch begins.

Too awesome hitsugaya.

Still apprehensive about the losses that'll happen on the shiningami side. Now that i think of it i'm attached to almost all the characters on the shiningami side.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 02, 2013, 02:01:00 PM
Hitsugaya taichou!??!?!!?! T-T

I hope urahara has a good idea of how to beat this situation
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 02, 2013, 02:11:22 PM
Dude, at this point I'm just hoping to see Grimmjow again.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 02, 2013, 02:22:24 PM
Haha i hear you. Kubo's been a troll with that aspect.

I facepalm at that kidou though. Surely it could've been used more prudently. In the middle of the battle let's say.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on October 08, 2013, 07:00:59 PM
wow...biggest contradiction ever......
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 09, 2013, 02:25:34 AM
Ichigo being part quincy?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on October 09, 2013, 03:26:17 AM
Ichigo being part quincy?

Seems his mother's a born Quincy and some how become part Hollow too. 

and yep Urahara has come up with a plan. xD
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on October 09, 2013, 06:26:30 AM
Also, didn't we just see a quincy fuse their attack with hollow aswell in hueco mundo?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 09, 2013, 06:40:51 AM
Yeh there's that. Dunno what's up with that. Was also wondering how a stolen bankai can suddenly be poisonous it's like drinking from a well and getting affected by someone throwing in poison after the fact.

Urahara and kurotsuchi are still epic though.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on October 09, 2013, 07:06:08 AM
Well yes it needs a delivering system for the poison. Unless Captains are still connected to Banki I don't see how it can be done.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 09, 2013, 07:52:01 AM
Well that certainly seems to be the case. At least the connection can be severed just by stealing it like they did. Maybe the captain has to die to make it complete?


And I don't remember the quincy actually fusing with hollows in hueco mundo, I thought that they just had a similar ressurection power.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 09, 2013, 08:11:54 AM
When Kirgie Opie absorbed ayon he got that buff nasty looking form.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 16, 2013, 07:25:49 AM
Could Hitsugaya possibly look more epic?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on October 23, 2013, 05:05:30 PM
another disappointment.....what the heck was the point of even stealing their bankai if they knew they would get it back and it just hindered the quincies from using their full power.....


smh
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 24, 2013, 01:22:45 AM
Hmm true, but if they killed the ones they stole from it would be an advantage maybe? The king will have yamamoto's bankai until the end.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on October 24, 2013, 01:26:05 AM
but they knew they were going to get it back. contradiction + contradictions. i am not liking where this series is going.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 24, 2013, 01:35:30 AM
*blocks ears and sings on the top of his voice

lalalalalalalala!!


Yeah technically I'd agree but i've decided to just be a blind fan and go through with it. Plus i can't stop reading it now.

I think the best of bleach was always the first arc when they were saving Rukia.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on October 24, 2013, 01:41:25 AM
i hate it...doesn't make me stop.

blegh...that's what the majority of bleach fans are doing....idk, a true fan has to love the good and call on them when it gets sucky. other wise, the author just uses you.


its too sad to even admit.....
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on October 24, 2013, 07:45:00 AM
Yeah, I have to admit, it doesn't make much sense. Unless he was just gambling that it would take longer for them to do it, which would allow the quincy enough time to wipe out the majority of the captains. Which if this is true, means that he's worried that the quincy power up thing might not be enough to bring down a fully powered captain. Which is the only logical conclusion that I'm coming to.

guess we'll just wait and see.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on October 24, 2013, 11:34:12 AM
but it seems those who have stolen it never even wanted it.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hikari on October 24, 2013, 12:26:32 PM
Wouldnt it act as a backup plan? Im not defending it, but it would take away the strength of the soul reapers if they took their bankai. Look at Hitsugaya (GO TOSHIRO!!!!!), he fought with all of his power to defeat his opponent and now has no strength left... I think that for the captains and vice captains to win against the quincies, they need bankai and full strength,  and now they dont have as much power as they need. Ill be pissed off if Toshiro and Soi Fon win though even if they are awesome... I want bambietta to win (I think thats her name), captain doggie annoys the *censored* outta me and she is epic  :D
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 24, 2013, 02:46:32 PM
I hate Bambietta Basterbine! Hirako and Doggie should still totally beat her down by all rights. Frankly though I want the Ichigo vs Ishida fight. That will be epic.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hikari on October 24, 2013, 04:41:50 PM
I hate Bambietta Basterbine! Hirako and Doggie should still totally beat her down by all rights. Frankly though I want the Ichigo vs Ishida fight. That will be epic.
NUUUUU!~~~~~~
Bambietta is awesome!!!!!!!! But the Uryu Ichigo fight should end quickly, I dont see Uryu getting enough power to defeat the new Ichigo, itd be poor writing if Uryu can pin him down for a few minutes just after Ichigo got new power
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 24, 2013, 06:17:16 PM
Ohoho don't be so quick to judge. I really think Ishida is the ultimate symbol of opposition to ishida rather than juha bach. I think when it comes to bach it will be an aizen like fight, where every character dashes themselves against his insurmountable power, and then ichigo cleans up after them
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on October 24, 2013, 07:26:40 PM
i can't help but think Uryuu is just planning something to defeat the vandereich. and somehow outsmart everyone. and it makes people wonder why .... i'll give kubo benefit the doubt in the next chapter, but for now, can't wait for this series to end.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hikari on October 24, 2013, 07:28:44 PM
Meh, Bleach was one of the first manga's to draw me into the medium, itd be sad for me, to see it go. I'll always love the series but its not my favourite
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on October 24, 2013, 11:05:25 PM
I hate Bambietta Basterbine! Hirako and Doggie should still totally beat her down by all rights. Frankly though I want the Ichigo vs Ishida fight. That will be epic.
NUUUUU!~~~~~~
Bambietta is awesome!!!!!!!! But the Uryu Ichigo fight should end quickly, I dont see Uryu getting enough power to defeat the new Ichigo, itd be poor writing if Uryu can pin him down for a few minutes just after Ichigo got new power

I think New Ishida probably have something powerful too. Quncy King picked him as his successor it might be because now he has become stronger than other Quincy. I think. :D
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hikari on October 25, 2013, 07:46:08 AM
Still... I do think that Uryu will be a lot stronger now, but his power was much lower than Ichigo's before they even entered the Seireitei,
and now Ichigo has two souls acting as zanpakto... im just thinking that they both levelled up a lot, but if Uryu was behind before then Ichigo will level up enough to beat him. Thats if they use full power against each other, I doubt Ichigo will want to hurt his friends XD
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 25, 2013, 12:14:14 PM
Yeah. He's got the same letter as the king after all

I hope ichigo has matured over mind games. It's tiresome to see him freak out every time something different happens.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hikari on October 25, 2013, 01:14:44 PM
Hopefully, I doubt it though
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on October 25, 2013, 02:46:33 PM
Yeah. He's got the same letter as the king after all

I hope ichigo has matured over mind games. It's tiresome to see him freak out every time something different happens.

i think the problem was that his reactions to what he was hearing wasn't consistent.

so sometimes he would be shocked for certain things others he wouldn't.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 29, 2013, 06:24:31 AM
Ichigo looks way too epic. Awesome.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on November 02, 2013, 02:23:30 PM
making him more happier and social wasn't what i was expecting. he looked far too cheery.


and yet again, nothing happened....just more stuff...

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 06, 2013, 07:14:04 AM
Will Komamoura finally beat down somebody? Oh man I hoped Hirako still had his hollowfication at hand, but he was beating by brute-force.

Dat demon looks freakish, with a kickass moustache
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on November 06, 2013, 07:51:03 AM
Oh man.

I've been waiting for some back story on this guy since he got introduced. Finally.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 06, 2013, 08:41:48 AM
Indeed.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on November 06, 2013, 08:51:37 PM
well its a good thing we got something worth finding out.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on November 07, 2013, 06:33:32 AM
Finally the story guy with wolf head. I always wonder what's Tite Kubos beef with him. Komamoura is usually one of the first to get into battle and also to get beaten up.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 07, 2013, 08:41:58 AM
Exactly! He always loses! I reall want him to win this time around
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 20, 2013, 07:19:30 PM
And win he did.

Poor bambietta... looks like the others weren't quite her subordinates.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on November 20, 2013, 07:57:30 PM
how the battle ended was quite sad. i'm glad she was the first though....she seemed to be the one taking most of the spotlight.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 20, 2013, 09:05:01 PM
Yeah for her especially i felt a little sorry. I wonder what their connection is though? When bambietta used her vollstandig the other's got wings too.

Looks like bleach is the only one not on haitus now for new years. I bet next week will be a cliffhanger
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on November 20, 2013, 10:01:42 PM
well kubo did take like 2 months off of publishing that one time to push towards the ending. you never know how much he's built up
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on November 25, 2013, 11:35:41 PM
well kubo did take like 2 months off of publishing that one time to push towards the ending. you never know how much he's built up

I dont know, his endings are horrible. the only one that ended ok was the Soul Society arc, but thats simply because it hinted a bigger story.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 27, 2013, 08:21:10 AM
nair has officially entered Bleach haha.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 11, 2013, 07:04:46 AM
Someone got Kira'd

Renji looks awesome.

Mask De Masculine is over powered.

Quincies are too powerful

Poor James.

I thought Ishida was 'The Villain.'
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on December 11, 2013, 07:50:59 AM
Good and evil always depend on your perspective.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nairbons on December 11, 2013, 11:04:14 AM
nair has officially entered Bleach haha.

Whaaaa? (Does an image search for Mask de Masculine)

Oooooh.

The resemblance in body type is uncanny, but I've never had a mustache.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on December 11, 2013, 12:08:13 PM
wondering what Renji's Bankai is like after being reforged.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 17, 2013, 01:36:47 PM
OH *censored* RENJI'S ULTIMATE TROLL CURBSTOMPING WAS *censored*ING AWESOME
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on December 17, 2013, 01:40:48 PM
I like Renji. finally someone to end this annoying Vandereich. honestly, he's the least quincy-like person here. it annoys me.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 17, 2013, 01:44:32 PM
Yeah he's abilties were really parallel to all of that. But I'm surprised he wasn't just weak cannon fodder. I knew he was strong when he one hit ko'd renji earlier and tore up zabimaru, but the way byakuya got rid of him at first made him seem so weak.

I'm so happy about this chapter right now, and now I get why people support renji. He's awesome.

This also puts into perspective how unreasonably strong Ichigo will be.

I want to see As Nodt next. Or that guy with the weird afro.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on January 19, 2014, 05:11:06 PM
HOLY CRAP RENJI DAAAAAMN
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hikari on January 19, 2014, 05:40:11 PM
HOLY CRAP RENJI DAAAAAMN
^ my reaction to the latest chapter
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on January 20, 2014, 06:51:27 AM
personally im disapointed. renji's previous bankai made more sense.

this one all we saw was a massive attack and its hard to make up any special abilities that it stored. honestly....it looks like an updated tensa zangetsu.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on January 29, 2014, 02:26:02 PM
When even Rukia get's a raep face on... you know it's about to go down
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on February 03, 2014, 10:43:33 AM
Were going to see rukia's bankai. I'm sure of it. Maybe not this chapter but in the next few.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 04, 2014, 01:13:18 PM
Mein gott that will be something to see. Historic even
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 05, 2014, 06:10:25 AM
Has Rukia gone the old school ala-aizen route of having a super powerful shikai instead of any bankai? I  like what I see. She was scary
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hikari on February 05, 2014, 06:18:24 PM
"Sub zero, AKA you're f*cked!"
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on February 05, 2014, 06:28:05 PM
kubo trying to add physical mechanics to his spiritual ones makes it hard to believe. afterall rukia is technically already dead. how below zero temperature affect rukia?

i can understand if frozen temporarily affects her but measuring it by degrees just made it difficult to follow.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: LittRL on February 05, 2014, 06:31:01 PM
All the characters have bled be they human of shinigami so I let that slide when I realized there's no way they're made up of physical particles.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on February 05, 2014, 06:34:03 PM
All the characters have bled be they human of shinigami so I let that slide when I realized there's no way they're made up of physical particles.

bleeding is different. for one we dont know if their bleeding "physical" blood. although we seen spiritual aspects affecting physical but the other way around is different.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: LittRL on February 05, 2014, 06:38:16 PM
The fact that they have blood is all is questionable. I'm pretty sure it's referred to as blood as Rukia said in the chapter negative fifteen was the temperature in which blood freezes which was followed by cutting the enemy with no blood shown. Of course he was a living being but there have been other instances where blood was seen coming from a shinigami and it being called "blood". Being dead isn't necessarily what we think of it in Bleach though, what with a whole caste system  in effect as well as being able to kill the already dead.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on February 10, 2014, 12:49:48 AM
missing the point that "blood" was also properly introduced. but i'm saying that spiritual blood and physical blood is different.

For all we know the spirit is an exact mirror of the physical, but...not really..because its still no longer affected by the physical. being a certain temperature shouldn't affect Rukia's "body" because her body isn't attached to the physical.

If there was some made-up temperature system for spirits, then i can let it slide, but no, we're seeing actual temperatures affecting spirits.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 10, 2014, 07:34:27 AM
They die/suffer of sickness too actually (Hisana, Ukitake) so there are physical aspects to their world. They have gravity and can be affected by drugs. They also suffer from hunger if they do not eat, and i'm pretty sure they all breathe.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on February 10, 2014, 08:32:41 AM
They die/suffer of sickness too actually (Hisana, Ukitake) so there are physical aspects to their world. They have gravity and can be affected by drugs. They also suffer from hunger if they do not eat, and i'm pretty sure they all breathe.

They can do all that but do they need to eat physical food or spiritual? Is this sickness ever called the flue or cold (fever depending on the circumstances however isn't desease or germs based so if there was ever a scene where shinigami are suffering from a fever, it would be acceptable)

Yes there's physical aspects but not necessarily the same rules. Pit it this way, if someone died from cancer does cancer pass on to the spirit?

The answer should be obvious. But let me put it in another way, if a human died the same way rukia technically died, would their spirit be considered dead too? Keep in mind that not all spirits make it to soul society.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 10, 2014, 10:46:55 AM
Ugh, I'm confused now. In the first place does a shiningami have a soul? Since they're made up of spiritual matter it shouldn't matter if their body stops breathing or not. It's said they don't have a dead soul when they die: They just decompose into spirit particles.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: LittRL on February 10, 2014, 10:53:59 AM
You just reminded me of the Dragonball rules, Lego. I'm just going to consider them the same since there's never going to be an official stance on this that won't have loose ends.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on February 10, 2014, 11:05:29 AM
In Dragon ball rules, the body technically goes with it. so your not a ghost.

since their composed of spiritual particles, it shouldn't matter that their bodies are frozen below temperature because temperature shouldn't affect them the same way it does to physical bodies.

yes, spirits eat, but do they need to eat the same thing physical people eat. but there have always been subtleties to bleach inconsistency and plot holes, but this one to me just made it so apparent.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 10, 2014, 11:06:24 AM
I'll just say she froze so cold she froze the fear juices or whatever that stuff was.

I'm thinking we're in for a defeat though. Shiningami have pwnd too long and kubo just can't let that keep going on
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: LittRL on February 10, 2014, 11:12:42 AM
I don't remember the bodies always doing that but that's another discussion altogether.

If there's blood which they need to live or if they have the same needs as a regular human then I'd assume they would still be comprised of particles with similar working as our own. Maybe spirit particles act the same as regular matter in most regards, I mean they do have super strength and move at speeds that would kill a regular person so you'd have to let some discrepancies slide by default.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on February 10, 2014, 11:21:36 AM
I'll just say she froze so cold she froze the fear juices or whatever that stuff was.

I'm thinking we're in for a defeat though. Shiningami have pwnd too long and kubo just can't let that keep going on

the fact that an exact temperature (human living standards) was raised just made it hurt that much more.

i dont think we're going to see another defeat. it was already revealed that all the energy of the dead vandereich goes straight back to the main vandereich leader...wow i really don't care about this arc to even remember the main villain....regardless, i doubt it. i think we're going to see them all die, and it was all part of his plan.

to make up some dumb excuse so that he can regain all his power, and then the real game start. and knowing previous stories before (aixen and arrancars arc/fullbringers arc) i'm pretty sure we're going to see that again.

I don't remember the bodies always doing that but that's another discussion altogether.

If there's blood which they need to live or if they have the same needs as a regular human then I'd assume they would still be comprised of particles with similar working as our own. Maybe spirit particles act the same as regular matter in most regards, I mean they do have super strength and move at speeds that would kill a regular person so you'd have to let some discrepancies slide by default.

what we don't see is blood loss actually being a cause of death in Bleach. so far we seen people take blows that should be instant kill and has made sense to revive.

So whatever they call "blood" may not be actual blood but just a projection of what their actually losing.
But nothing is saying they are losing blood, or that they "need" it to survive. if they have a body, but not certain vital organs such as heart, than theres more contradictions alongside kubo.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 10, 2014, 11:39:48 AM
I think he shounen'ed the logic away that's why it's hard to accept things like this now. I remember how intense a wound was when Ichigo first raided soul society. I mean the mechanics of the fight with Ikkaku were great. You <i>needed</i> to dodge a sword blade. Jumping over the opponent was a way to get a drop on them. The weapon splitting into a tri-section staff was tricky and could win the battle. But with the whole one slash of a blade reducing a building to ash you can't really attach much scientific logic to a battle anymore.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: LittRL on February 10, 2014, 11:43:15 AM
That is the sad future for all shounen series, Lego. If you keep getting stronger eventually you stop making sense. I once read a thorough argument of who was stronger: Superman or Goku. When you see the science of it you get amazed that Goku could literally destroy entire universes, it was math so you couldn't argue it. I'm sure if you did the math for Bleach you'd get some outrageous stuff too.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 10, 2014, 12:09:20 PM
Ugh, yeah I heard of something like that but i never looked into it too much, and superman is already impossible. Vsauce deconstructed the energy released by one of his strongest punches and that was something else.

The worst thing is that it's not even necessary you know? I'm pretty sure you can make a badass power up without having nuclear explosions happen everywhere. Let's say Ichigo became captain class through legit hardwork. You'd have him epicly parry blows and shatter blades and stuff. Seriously, it really kills the sense of epicness if you do stuff like that.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: LittRL on February 10, 2014, 12:13:42 PM
It has superpowers, what do you expect? If you want to see more realistic (though still outrageous by human standard) sword fighting then I'd refer you to Rurouni Kenshin or Gamaran. The battles in Bleach are meant to excite the reader with cool gimmicks rather than skill, overpowering someone through sheer force is always something you see in these kind of shounen titles.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 10, 2014, 12:21:28 PM
Yeah Gamaran is something else haha. I haven't finished it but it's pretty tense stuff. I haven't read Kenshin yet though, but I did see the first chapter.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 12, 2014, 09:37:31 AM
Tartar Foras

That Letz Stil was terrifying

I'm both disappointed by what happened, but excited at the end of the chapter
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 19, 2014, 01:42:28 PM
Okay, I really enjoyed that chapter
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on February 19, 2014, 02:12:57 PM
And once again prediction came true. Can't wait for next weeks. It took a while but its finally picking up.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 19, 2014, 02:26:50 PM
Indeed. Is it renji's turn to be beaten down? Is ichigo finally arriving? I think it's a shame I didn't see hisagi's bankai yet.

I am so looking forward for the grudge match between Mayuri and Ishida
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on February 19, 2014, 02:31:49 PM
I doubt he'll get beat down. He just made an entrance with ichigo. So ichigo will surely get the next battle.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 19, 2014, 02:35:28 PM
I thought Byakuya's bankai was still stolen though, that threw me off a bit...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on February 19, 2014, 02:38:13 PM
she's using his shikai, not his bankai. Zenbon sakura is his shikai.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 19, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
Oh yes but as nod said "you had the perimeter surrounded with your senbonzakura kageyoshi, as i suspected yours is a truly magnificent bankai, how i wish it were in my possess-"

I guess Urahara teleported the black pills to everyone? not impossible haha. Kubo is not one to outline everything that's happened. Either he is minimalist like hemingway or he's just like that ....
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on February 19, 2014, 02:44:50 PM
Byakuya clarified to him it wasn't as his bankai takes the entire sword to use, his shikai only leaves the hilt behind.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 19, 2014, 02:53:19 PM
Oh so that's what he meant.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 26, 2014, 09:03:30 AM
Rukia looks gorgeous. Just love Kubo's designs.

The upcoming battle will be interesting only because I wonder how that shiningami fights, but it feels like a slow down of pace. The quincy also seems too ugly to do much damage.

Dark beginning to the chapter too
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hikari on February 26, 2014, 09:54:43 AM
Agreed, Rukia looked epic! If she doesnt become a captain then I give up XD
I wonder if Yachiru will get bankai, or maybe Isane
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 26, 2014, 01:14:57 PM
That'll be troublesome to see, but it'll be nice to see how dangerous yachiru is.

Kubo is cruel. Both of them are not expecting their captains to come back alive. To be honest kenpachi only survived by unohana's grace haha.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hikari on February 26, 2014, 01:36:20 PM
Still... itd be cool (actually... neither of them have shown their shikai, so thatd be better)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on February 26, 2014, 05:00:14 PM
Showing shikai might be interesting. Those two might have some decent shikai that allows them to be good together.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on February 26, 2014, 07:20:13 PM
False! Isane used her shikai once against Ichigo. Though yeah she really didn't do much of anything with it.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hikari on February 26, 2014, 08:27:24 PM
I see...shows how much I know about bleach XD
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 27, 2014, 06:29:01 AM
 Oh yeah, when Isane used her shikai it was instantly smashed huh.

Well they're both vice captains of kenpachis so maybe they have monstrous fighting skills if they put their mind to it
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hikari on February 27, 2014, 10:36:48 AM
It'd be pretty funny if Yachiru used her shikai and turned into an akuma destroying all of the sternritters in one movement XD
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 27, 2014, 01:01:08 PM
I'd expect at least that much from her
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hikari on February 27, 2014, 01:06:30 PM
She'll just pout and all of soul society will go up in flames
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on February 28, 2014, 09:40:33 AM
Just started to notice kubo has been really lazy about the bankais. Don't get me wrong, renji and rukia's bankai look great but we don't get to see them do more.  Especially renji's. I don't want to see another final getsuga tensho.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 28, 2014, 10:56:21 AM
The action sequences you mean? I think so too in a way. Renjis first bankai while not as stylish really gave a sense of scale and destruction with how he demolished those pillars. It used to be easy to remember that Ichigo's bankai gave him a lot of speed. Kubo really sold that he was faster than normal, but then it just turned into a fancy outfit. I would've also liked to see more than a flash of ice for Rukia's bankai. But I guess he's got some sort of time constraint or something.

That's why I think sometimes it should've been a monthly manga where he has all the time he needs to put in the juicy action scenes, but the wait would be terrible...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on February 28, 2014, 11:40:38 AM
But oh so satisfying because it would be nearly twice as big or even three times.

But more, we would see the level of depth, I wasn't sure what renji's bankai did and. Although I knew what rukia's did I wished we saw more.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on February 28, 2014, 02:01:28 PM
I agree with the Bankai's being a little lazy. Rukia's was essentially the same as her "new" Shikai. And it was a shame how Rose's Bankai was so easily overcome. This whole arc has been really unbalanced when It comes to the Quincies. That said, I've got a lot of hope for Kyoraku's Bankai, as his Shikai is easily my favourite. 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 28, 2014, 02:47:53 PM
Rose's Bankai... Oh man... How could it be defeated like that. Yeah but I seriously think it's time. This is why One Piece's crazy multiple panelling on a single page is something I preferred, at least it takes long to get through a chapter. I get what you mean about Rukia's bankai, but that is the basic principle of every bankai. Well it's even more fitting since she's a Kuchiki. Byakuya's bankai is basically an exaggeration of his shikai as well haha.

I'm very interested in seeing Kyoraku's bankai, but I have a feeling the opponent he's up against has a cheat of an ability. It's something that defies logic just like Kyoraku's.

So true Lorenx
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on February 28, 2014, 04:10:52 PM
Yeah he is supposedly the strongest quincy behind bach of course.  I think they said his letter was B for balance and they kept mentioning scales so I'm interested to see what his power is.  But yeah,  rose and kensei were embarrassing.  I was disappointed at how easily shinji was beaten too. He's one of my favourite characters :(
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 28, 2014, 04:35:15 PM
To be frank especially with their apparent fear of hollows the vizard captains should've been the trump cards to the whole situation. Why hasn't a single one of them hollowified? Seriously?

Haha, yeah Shinji is my favourite too. But the vizards also suffer from explaining their abilities too much. If only shinji just used his shikai and aimed for a kill *censored* isntead of chatting about how he reverses your senses. If only Rose just used his bankai without explaining that the hypnosis was occuring through sound... Kensei was simply beaten by brute strength alone
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on February 28, 2014, 08:06:59 PM
Yeah, I thought they would be the saviours of the soul society. During that whole plan that Urahara employs to add hollow powers to the Captains Bankai's I was thinking "now the Vizards are gonna whup some Quincy!".....Instead they just look so weak.  In fact the only one who has handed out an ass whooping is.......Komamura :frown: (He's always been my least favourite)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on March 01, 2014, 03:25:20 PM
We still don't know who the person is who came up to urahara (I think) so the vizards might step in. But I think right now the focus is on those who we haven't seen their true strength.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on March 01, 2014, 07:02:20 PM
I'm guessing the dude who's with Urahara is Grimmjow. The things I wanna see most before bleach ends are Urahara's bankai, Yoruichi's Zanpakuto and its forms and Isshin's bankai too. Basically, I wanna see every captain and former Captains bankai :P Although he has a lot to get through, I'm guessing that Bleach will be around for at least another couple of years, hopefully enough time for a reboot of the anime!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on March 01, 2014, 07:04:56 PM
Urahara's might be interesting.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 01, 2014, 07:10:31 PM
Urahara's would be fun. I loved his ominous statement of 'my bankai is not one that can be used to lend someone strenght.' It must be pure overkill.

An ova of the anime would be fantastic. I can't imagine how action packed everything would be. It just must happen
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on March 01, 2014, 07:57:58 PM
Surely there must be enough of a demand for Bleach to warrant a reboot or an OVA. I was really impressed towards the end of its original run with how they framed the fight scenes, some of them looked really slick and dynamic. Yeah, I still remember that line from Urahara. Been waiting for a while, but he's gotta show up sooner or later to lay the smackdown. I also remember them saying something similar about Kyoraku's, something like "he shouldn't use it where other's can see" can't wait to see both either way.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on March 01, 2014, 08:06:21 PM
there have been OVAs of Bleach, just not that well known to the Bleach community because their more remakes of previous episodes.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on March 02, 2014, 11:02:19 AM
I'm sorta hoping that once they manga is finished they'll release a movie that covers the final battle and conclusion.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hikari on March 02, 2014, 11:09:38 AM
Ooh, that sounds good. I dont think there will be more of the anime though, no point
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 02, 2014, 11:56:51 AM
There is a point. The action in bleach is just something that shouldn't be ignored. I just hope one anime company somewhere down the line wants to milk the fanbase and makes anything really. The last arc of bleach is really something I want to see.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on March 02, 2014, 12:05:51 PM
If I ever win the lottery, I would personally fund a studio to bring Bleach back!!!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 02, 2014, 12:13:41 PM
It's pretty expensive stuff haha.

I wish I could do something like that, but I'd probably be stopped by the fact that I have no way to contact japan to do something like that haha.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 05, 2014, 03:39:52 PM
Oh hell no *Runs away from terrifying Shikai

I thought Wabisuke was bad
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on March 05, 2014, 04:02:25 PM
So yeah...........Yachiru's Shikai huh?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 05, 2014, 04:27:48 PM
Yeah... It's pretty abnormal. She's also talking philosophically. Did she just suggest Ken doesn't like her killing people or something?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on March 05, 2014, 05:50:33 PM
Yeah it was weird, I'm not sure if she just meant that Kenpachi would of been mad cuz if he was there he would of been the one doing the killing! But yeah, i'm not sure if it was the translation of the chapter that I read, the way they explained her powers was confusing as hell. I had to re-read it several times and look at the bleach wiki to figure out what her ability was.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on March 05, 2014, 06:12:40 PM
My translation seemed fine.

But yeah, always figured her's would be creepy as hell.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 05, 2014, 06:30:55 PM
Is that a materialization of bankai or her shikai is just that bad?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on March 06, 2014, 04:19:41 AM
i have no idea, but i'm sure its her shikai.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 12, 2014, 11:01:20 AM
Someone should really learn to use the door.

Also, quincies should just call themselves magicians at this point. I can't see the archery motif at all haha
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on March 12, 2014, 11:45:08 AM
Yeah, Kubo kinda abandoned that one a while ago didn't here?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on March 12, 2014, 08:30:33 PM
There certainly doesn't seem to be any uniform aspect to their abilities, although I kinda liked the idea of the guy who could make his presence and existence forgotten.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 12, 2014, 09:29:33 PM
It was an interesting idea sure, but I remember Kubo created Ishida and quincy because he wanted an archer rival to the sword fighting quincy... And with the first introduction of blut vein, I thought there'd be at least that tiny amount of tactic introduced into the fights, like a shiningami figuring out when to attack properly or not
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on March 13, 2014, 06:12:49 PM
Nah, the only tactic that the Shinigami employ is to Appear,Get Ass Kicked, Get Saved by Newcomer, Repeat as necessary
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on March 13, 2014, 06:40:57 PM
at this point their not calling themselves quincies either, their calling themselves the vandereich. not only that but we're not seeing any classic item usage from them.

i personally would feel more invested in bleach if they actually used more of what Uryuu introduced. but the idea of them being high-spiritual people wit hthe use of spirit items and suddenly to actual spiritual beings that rival the royal family seems ridiculous.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 13, 2014, 09:54:52 PM
Indeed...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 02, 2014, 06:48:42 PM
Well i'm glad he truly is the strongest quincy, and there was more fighting this time around, but i'm still a bit in the 'meh' zone methinks. Glad that the quincy finally pulled out some guns haha.

I don't think things will end well when Letz Stil (and I imagine Kenpachi's Bankai) come along. I hope for a truly epic conclusion
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on April 04, 2014, 09:44:16 AM
im disapointed in this chapter...unless theres a specific flaw to his ability all he has to do is imagine them dead or if he cant imagine someone dead because he has to constantly be imagining it then at least imagine poison until their dead.

this chapter was a waste by seeing other Vandereich that dont matter. and we still dont see Kenpachi's bankai.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 04, 2014, 10:26:07 AM
Indeed. I don't know if it means that he's still got a lot to exposit or if he just wanted to cheap out of the fight scene. From the quincy invasion and that full colour announcement page of 'Bleach Final Chapter'... to the 3 chapter long fights, I thought everything would be a rush of activity and battle.

I just want one honest-to-god quincy vs shiningami fight. Long Range vs close range. Stop talking so much and explaining your abilities and just fight

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 16, 2014, 05:24:05 AM
Nozarashi, now that's a huge sword. The panel where he approached the meteor was epic, but i wish it showed a bit more after that.

It'll be ironic if it's a kidou based sword
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on April 16, 2014, 06:21:38 AM
i dont see the irony in it. But i felt like there was so much filler just to make more time. which is getting me even more annoyed with bleach as it is.

OH well
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 16, 2014, 06:33:11 AM
In squad 11 kidou based abilities are looked down upon. It's why yumichika hid his true shikai
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on April 16, 2014, 06:39:25 AM
i forgot about that. i guess it is somewhat ironic. another irony is the untold rule that they must only reveal their true strength and it seems that Kenpachi is showing it off to everyone
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on April 16, 2014, 04:18:16 PM
It seem's fitting that Kenpachi's shikai would be a ridiculously huge Cleaver!!! I'm wondering what it's ability is?
From what I read, "Nozarashi" is a Motif worn by men composed of a skull and bones. It's interesting as several times throughout the story, when Kenpachi has cut loose, his Reiatsu has resembled a skull.

 If I had to create an ability for Zaraki's shikai. I would say it is able to cut through literally anything, as it fit's Zaraki's character. 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 16, 2014, 04:21:47 PM
I'm hoping it literally doesn't swallow stuff though, that'd be unfortunate. But yeah, I agree, the huge primitive looking cleaver suits him.

The Sternritter reactions were hilarious. I want to memify "What the *censored* did you do Gremmy!?"

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on April 16, 2014, 04:36:04 PM
Yeah, that was pretty funny, I forgot that Buzzbee was alive? There's a helluva lot of them left to deal with! There's also the dude who reminds me of Aizen, he'll probably be next up I assume. Probably against Mayuri. I love Mayuri's fights.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on April 16, 2014, 08:22:18 PM
Nozarashi is his bankai.

Kenpachi Zeraki had always had his shikai awakened, even without knowing its name.

which is how yoroichi explained how those who have their shikai awakened continously has a high chance of getting to their bankai
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on April 17, 2014, 02:36:32 AM
Isnt it just the true form of his shikai now he knows its name?  Since he used a release command and didnt say bankai?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on April 18, 2014, 01:52:56 AM
its possible. Kenpachi's story is so old that i'm not even going to bother looking back. but....i'm not so sure. Kubo sometimes pulls off some things.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on April 18, 2014, 04:54:12 PM
haha, I'm the same way when It comes to looking back for something that happened an age ago in the story I give up instantly. That's the annoying thing about being caught up on a series and reading just one chapter a week. I forget what happens almost instantly.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on April 18, 2014, 04:57:10 PM
Also, while I remember, I've always assumed that the Sternritters ranks of A-Z is also the order in terms of strength. So Haschwald is "B" meaning he is th second strongest, but has this actually been stated in the manga? I ask because it seems this Gremmy is ridiculously overpowered but his letter is "V" which I'd assume would make him weaker?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 18, 2014, 05:06:42 PM
Kubo really just goes with the flow, I don't think he really worries too much over the specifics of the story. I wish there was a very direct interview that asked him about all of this stuff. Most answers I know about the backstory of bleach are from interviews or other fans. Naruto and One Piece explain most of their stuff in the manga haha.

My answer to that would be: He is V because he creates weak quincies, and also because his emotions are not perfect. Juha Bach saw the meteor and didn't really care. To be honest, a meteor isn't that much of a problem to people like Ichigo or the Zeroth Division. Even if it was too powerful I doubt any captain class would fail to escape/destroy that. Even the other kenpachi unohana could cut that down
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on April 18, 2014, 05:11:46 PM
Yeah, I thought the ability he had was to create illusions and make his opponent think that what he created was real. But he can instantly heal by just imagining he was okay! I'm never a fan of this kind of ability as it almost seem's too perfect. I like powers to have clear strengths and weaknesses. Ah well, Kenpachi is going to annihilate him in the next two chapters or so, so it's all good :P

I don't know if I said this or not previously too, but..............holy crap Rukia has a Bankai!!!!!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 18, 2014, 05:25:18 PM
Yeah that was a momentous occasion. I'm just a bit dissapointed that it's not a combat bankai. It's basically an ice nuke.

His imagination ability is really weird, but he only survives because he's fighting kenpachi (or someone weaker.) If let's say ichigo or even renji fought against him he'd have problems. The moment he doubts that he'll survive an attack he'll die.

Damit i can't wait for the overpowered ichigo to arrive on the scene
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 23, 2014, 07:08:36 AM
"F*** dumbass" ~ Zaraki kenpachi, after his opponent Ko'ed himself.

Ahaha, i laughed so much after that ending. That was a fun read
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on April 23, 2014, 05:44:10 PM
"Soul Reapers in spaaaacceee" That was a pretty imaginative way of attacking someone, it's ironic though that he can imagine water, meteor's, machine guns and lava, but he can't conjure up a damned bow and arrow :P

Still Kenpachi is bad ass and hadn't removed his eye patch! I laughed at that ending to
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 23, 2014, 06:14:31 PM
Yeah that attack was super painful. The imagination power backfired on him I guess. This is the sort of thing i pointed out in the Recreational Logic thread: if you had telekinesis and someone suggested to you to hurt yourself in some way, would you be able to stop yourself from thinking it?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on April 23, 2014, 07:04:00 PM
hmmm, I've never thought of that....*Mind Blown!*

One thing that always bugs me is that if all Shingami's are made up of Reiatsu, why would their physiology act the same as a humans? There bodies are essentially made up of energy, so I always thought they wouldn't succumb to things like drowning or suffocation or things of that nature.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on April 23, 2014, 07:07:05 PM
I'm very disapointed in this chapter.

not only did we barely see nozarami or whatever its called (see, i'm already not caring about it) but we saw barely anything from Zraki at this point.

the stuff about "you monster, you monster" was really shoe-horned. And in the end thats what killed him? the fact that he was trying to paint him into a monster he can't imagine?

It makes some-what sense, but the chapter really forced the idea. rather than seeing this idea unfold slowly, it pushed straight into our faces. and what a pathetic way to end it.

kubo seems to lose his edge. especially again, when we're talking about spirits. space wouldn't affect spirits the same way. but no...kubo continues to act like these are physical beings.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on April 23, 2014, 07:13:23 PM
Exactly! they're not human and wouldn't be considered alive, so a Vacuum like that in space wouldn't affect a Shinigami as they are essentially made up of energy.

I guessed his Shikai's ability really is just to cut anything it comes into contact with. I'm sure we'll see more of Zaraki later. I wonder which battle is next? (My bet's on Mayuri and the one who was in his lab, although I'm dying to see Kyoraku take on the B Sternritter and give him a good old fashioned, restaurant quality ass whooping!)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on April 23, 2014, 07:28:20 PM
this was a complaint i had with Rukia's bankai. not that it was a bad idea, but the problem was that kubo tried to explain it using Celsius which was completely unnecessary.

I understand that the elements in the series (or at least i thought i understood when i tried to make sense of it) was that these abilities only take specific form. For example: Hitsugaya's shikai and bankai is "ice-base" but he never relied on measuring temperature (or at least i dont remember) to affect his enemies. Which gave more the ilusion of "yes its ice, but not physical ice"

there are ways that spirits can be affected the same way as physical beings if its spirits vs spirits. but here we see spirits vs physical.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 24, 2014, 07:12:17 AM
Hmm there is a point there. Both rukia's bankai and the vacuum are glaring examples of this. Hm..

I guess the next fight will be a Quincy win then? I don't think Renji will win his next one.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on April 24, 2014, 08:17:34 AM
Is that huge axe like sword is Zarakis Bankai ?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 24, 2014, 08:20:08 AM
It's his shikai I think? He only gave it a command to awaken, and didn't actually say bankai. Of course captains can activate their bankai without saying anything so yeah... Dunno.

Anyways it seems to have a cheating ability to cut through anything. Does that mean that even Ichigo's new swords would be cut through? Hehe
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 08, 2014, 08:19:52 AM
Kenpachi worried about Yachiru huh.

Also destiny's child wannabes are attacking kenpachi. I wonder how this will play out. I'll call bull if he's defeated just because he got wounded. He's already overpowered, so don't lie to us now that he'll suddenly fall.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 08, 2014, 08:38:08 AM
Haha, the wannabe girl band vs a no-nonsense, ruthless, bloodthirsty, giant cleaver wielding bad ass!........interesting.

first of all....WTF! he was just a brain in a jar!? Now I accept that the 9th Espada was two brain things in a jar, but he was a hollow so I'm more forgiving of his outlandish  anatomy. But Quincies are supposed to be Human after all. I feel that Gremmy needed a quick origin story to explain that, but then again I think this latest chapter is kinda re-writing the history/abilities of Quincies, so I  guess nothing surprises me about them anymore.

And yeah, from the panel I thought at first he stepped on Yachiru's arm under the rubble, as if she was dead, but then he wouldn't tell people to search if it was her, so it must just be a scrap of clothing.  :hmm:

I kinda like this battle. It should a mad 5 vs 1 scramble, where Kenpachi can get lost in the joy of battle. I don't mind if these girl's have him on the ropes, but I'm trying to think of who will inevitably jump in to help. Ukitake maybe? He's the only one I can think of off the top of my head who hasn't made an appearance, other than Urahara and the Vizards etc. (Who judging how disappointing Kensei and Rose have been, shouldn't bother showing up! and Shinji.....don't get me started, so much potential wasted there!)

 So after a slight rant, I liked it, finally wrapped up the Gremmy battle, which I felt lasted a bit too long and bumped the story onwards. I'm pretty sure their must be like 15 left of the Sternritter though, so at least Bleach isn't nearing it's end just yet. And that's fine with me :)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshiro Byakko on May 08, 2014, 06:19:42 PM
theory going around is that yachiru is zaraki's true sword
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 08, 2014, 06:22:29 PM
Say Whaaaaat!?

I wouldn't think that, since she has her own Zanpakuto and Shikai, with a different name to Zaraki's? Plus she has memories seperate to Kenpachi, like when she first met him. Then again,  Nothing will surprise me anymore from Bleach
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on May 08, 2014, 06:28:50 PM
Yeah, i was suspecting that with the way the panels flowed with yachiru.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 08, 2014, 06:40:56 PM
You know, that scenario never even occurred to me. Hmmm, I hope that's not the case, I don't like the idea his Zanpakuto can just walk around on its own as a separate existence (No matter what the Filler Arc in the Anime says) But he did step on her sleeve. Which now I've had a look back, looks like it could indeed be her whole shihakusho and I can't think of a reason why she'd be running around Naked on the battlefield, other than if she transformed into his sword  :o 

I'm not liking this turn of events.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 08, 2014, 06:42:18 PM
Holy crap, that almost makes stupid sense!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshiro Byakko on May 08, 2014, 07:09:23 PM
yeah, they say that she that she wanted Kenpachi to notice her so bad that she projected herself and she wasn't scared of the blade beause it was her. It would explain why they both have that explosive reiatsu ( cat/skull) though.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 08, 2014, 07:14:50 PM
The only thing is she has her own zanpakuto. Which wouldn't be so bad but her's actually materialises! Also gremmy turned her bones brittle didn't he? Which I would assume makes her share the same anatomy as a shinigami? Guess we shall have to wait and see
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshiro Byakko on May 08, 2014, 07:19:06 PM
I hope those are just rumors because if it's not, how did Soul Society, Hollows, or Quincies not catch this?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 10, 2014, 12:54:38 PM
When Yama ji of all people got duped by a clone bleach threw logic out the window.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 10, 2014, 07:58:34 PM
Damn Lego, you have just bought up a part of the story I'd forgotten, man I wish it would stay that way :P

Can I say this clone of Juha Bach in appearance only, somehow OWNED kenpachi? ya know, after Zaraki had done away with three other members and I think one of them was this guy's twin!!! so would he not have a similar power level if he was!? That really threw me those couple of chapters. Only getting to see Yamamoto's bankai saved that
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 10, 2014, 08:27:58 PM
Haha Kenpachi was always holding back anyways so that was to be expected.

Oh by the way Kubo has been hinting at something. You know, reading a bleach chapter again and real slow like is revealing. Both Rukia and Kenpachi's subordinates have commented on how they couldn't sense reiatsu... Something is up. I think that scientist quincy (not the cyborg) is up to something.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 14, 2014, 05:57:35 AM
Spoiler
What the hell. I understand the need for defeats on the good guy side

no scratch that. Even if it turns out the good guys always win, so long as it fits the logic go for it.

Kenpachi is the beast! Are you telling me i should be sorry for him just because he bumped into the so called most powerful sternritter? Then he'd be absolutely useless against Juha Bach!

Heh, it'd be ironic if it's Ichigo coming to save him now though. Return the favour. I expect he'll wipe the floor with Destiny's Child.

Also, this chapter was violent. I like
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 14, 2014, 06:14:30 AM
Yeah, Bleach can get a bit grizzly at times, I wish more shonen manga weren't afraid to go that way!

And ah, crap. So thats quite a collection of powers, I like Sternritter "P" the power, just because she looks like Orihime but with a hat on :P 

And who is it thats coming to save the day? It looks skull shaped the blast in the sky.....gonna go for the longshot......its Urahara, Chad, Orihime and Grimmjow!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 14, 2014, 07:21:15 AM
Oh that'd be the perfect set up to fight against the others. Chad against the buff chick and grimmjow taking out the lightning ones.

Where is Yachiru. People, i'm worried that the theory is actually true...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 21, 2014, 07:24:48 AM
OH! OH!!!

BLEACH 581!!!!!

Spoiler
KURO

SAKI

MOTHER

FRAKKING

ICHIGOOOO
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on May 21, 2014, 09:36:15 AM
we finally get to see ichigo, and he smiles...i'm not liking it. the smile he gives off is a bit cheesy. he looks more muscular too...not liking it. i prefer the toned but skinny look he had.

anyways, the dialogue was really pushed. ichigo saying "i'm about to say something i never thought i'd say to you". i'm here to save you...

didn't ichigo already make an entrance? who was it that made the other entrance?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 21, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
It was like a mini flash back up until he broke through the barrier.

Oh, I caught that smile part too, but he's finally, finally stopped whining about his situation or taking it too seriously. He's a shiningami, like like Isshin in that aloof sort of way.  It is strange to see him bulky though. I hope his bankai is still sleek, but he has to match up to the giant that is Juha Bach in a way right?


I expect a quick bare handed take down. Ah man I'm looking forward to the next chapters.

Dat sword on his back though... Ah man, I'm really psyched.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on May 21, 2014, 10:59:32 AM
the problem with ichigo pouting and being serious is that he goes too far, not that its bad that he is that in general.

in this one it seemed a little too playful and young. i'm not used to it at all.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 21, 2014, 11:17:15 AM
Hm I can see that. Let's see how he holds up against Ishida's betrayal...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: beige.blancmange on May 21, 2014, 03:47:39 PM
Oh man. I just want to see what Ichigo's new powers look like.  :dance:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 21, 2014, 03:51:02 PM
He is going to clap the Femritters without even using his weaponry ala when he was at Rukia's execution. That spead was preposterous. And awesome. 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 21, 2014, 04:06:35 PM
So, I did not expect Ichigo to arrive this early on! Glad to see Shinji's up and about. Hoping he gets what he truly deserves, which is a victory over a Villian! Hope he smashes that Buzzby guy. About what Shinji said in regards to everyone not being 100%, are they just forgetting about Ukitake, Shunsui and Mayuri? As far as we know they haven't lifted a finger? All I can say is I hope that the final showdown between Ichigo and Juha Bach is not anytime soon. Hell, I'd even take the Sternritters retreating and the Shinigami invading their home.
 
 And Lego, If you remember, Ichigo's got two swords now! double Gestuga Tensho!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 21, 2014, 04:09:40 PM
Oh, I have not forgotten his other shank that's at his right hip. I'm looking forward to how he plans to use these weapons.

Yeah it was an odd choice to have him appear earlier. The Shinji vs Bazz matchup is certainly interesting. Burner finger is lava now? That's pretty nasty! Other people are pointing that out too, maybe Kubo just wanted to make the situation more dire.

I'd rather they meet head on regardless of what is happening! Don't make everything so linear and obvious! This is war! But yeah I expect it'll be an epic final showdown.

Ichigo I swear if you freak out over Uryuu joining the Quincy I'll punch a hole through you...

After I train in a hyperbolic chamber for some thousand years...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: SwordHero16 on May 24, 2014, 06:43:30 PM
I knew the chapter before it shows Ichigo coming, too obvious. Though I am excited to see how Shinji can deal with Bazz-B who almost killed Hitsugaya, also understand why Kenpachi is considered a Special War power that even his death can be a possible loss to the Shinigami or worse than that as many Captians are either dead or unable to fight for now.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 24, 2014, 07:34:15 PM
I'd be interested to see what the final battle is, Ichigo and Uryu v.s. Juha Bach perhaps?

Hopefully we shall see Shinji's Bankai. I mean his shikai is pretty bad ass already, so he should definitely batter bazz B!!!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on May 28, 2014, 04:24:47 PM
i'm really taking the chapters as they go. nothing is exciting me. i've seen bankai's disappoint me so far even in the fake karakura town arc, so i'm not sure i'll be expecting much from shinji.

Juha Bach is making a move faster than i anticipated.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 28, 2014, 06:24:00 PM
I'm wondering why it's considered 'a move' though. I thought this was all out war? Don't tell me he's planning something like Aizen as in heading to the soul king. It looks like the scientist quincy isn't fully on their side too.

I was... dissapointed in ichigo's outfit, but i'm glad he went hand to hand for a while. I'm also dissapointed he lost his epic robe.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on May 28, 2014, 06:27:11 PM
ichigo usually looks all thick at first, but when he's at his strongest is when he slims down. i bet when he reveals his bankai, he's going to slim down.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 28, 2014, 06:34:20 PM
Ahahaha. Oh man, there should be a meme for that, but yeah pretty much

Wonder what the title for the chapter was all about though... I saw no headless..
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 28, 2014, 06:39:39 PM
               Trying to decipher Tite Kubo's Chapter Titles is impossible. He must just pull words from a dictionary at random sometimes. which is coincidently what he did with the names for the Sternritter.....Candice Catnipp??? Belter of a name that is :P
                But yeah, I found it interesting that Juha Bach is going to take action somehow. I hope he's not entering the battle, it seems far too soon  for that.
 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on May 28, 2014, 06:48:14 PM
i have a feeling he pulls certain ones off of songs, or just trying to make lyrics himself.

others i think is based off poor translations. but then again i know certain english chapter titles dont match up at all to the japanese ones. so they probably are just random words.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 28, 2014, 06:57:52 PM
I like when you have the little inserts on the inside covers in the tanbokens. They're almost poetic from Kubo but generally random as hell.

Oh yeah Lego, I'm digging Ichigo's new look, I wasn't a fan of that Cloak he had on. Perhaps Bach could go to the Spirit King's place. The funny thing is, I don't think they've really given Juha Bach another motive other than eradicating the Shinigami. He's got to have more of a grand scheme that they will introduce later. 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on May 28, 2014, 07:01:17 PM
i'm not liking ichigo's look or his expressions.

the X is way too bulky...but....we'll see if it gets better. lately kubo can't give ichigo a new look to save his life.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 28, 2014, 07:13:23 PM
It's an improvement on his Batman Style fullbring suit anyway
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on May 28, 2014, 07:27:36 PM
which only lasted for a small bit. the next suit is his regular suit, and kubo attempted to give it a lil more flare, but those X's on hum just looked out of place.

now it looks like that but worst. i'm hoping kubo knows how to make bankai's look good again.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 28, 2014, 07:39:21 PM
As always, I'm the only one who enjoyed his fullbring outfits, especially his regular shiningami look with those high collars. That bankai with the razor-edged zangetsu looked sweet as well (to me).

I wonder how Uryu will fight. I really want to see that.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 28, 2014, 07:59:57 PM
Knowing Quincies now? He'll probably discard his bow and bust out some bizarre Power. I'm gonna go for lasers from his spec's :P
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on May 28, 2014, 08:19:01 PM

they were pretty, but int he context of the story, it was pretty ugly compared to other clothing we've seen. i think part of it is that bleach.

I dont even call them quincies anymore, its starting to become more aparent that quincies were some lower form while these are the real deal. but even then i would've preferred more usage with bows and arrows, just for the sake of having something or not even bows and arrows, but some form of firearm.

Uryu might not have changed too much, but who knows.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 28, 2014, 09:47:26 PM
I was a bit happy to see the girls use bows, but otherwise they're an insult to the name, no matter how much they changed from the originals, these are definately people fighting with swords and other magic techniques in between. It'd definitely shake up the dynamic more
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on May 28, 2014, 09:59:15 PM
is it me, or are these girls are acting too extreme than necessary? their so extreme, their bland.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 28, 2014, 10:27:13 PM
Yeah we're a bit of a long way from the sort of grace we expect from Unohana (Or Yoruichi when she was in the whole royalty gig.) Now Kubo is turning the dial up on all their personalities ironically starting with Unohana.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 29, 2014, 02:37:10 PM
Yeah the Razor edged Tensa Zangetsu was pretty decent. I'm digging his current look though, but the wristbands seem to be a kind of energy as opposed to clothing, they don't seem solid in the art of this chapter anyway.

The four girls just remind me of Halibel's three henchmen, they're pretty similar to me. And am I the only one who doesn't think Unohana's dead?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on May 29, 2014, 02:58:52 PM
Is it that you want her to be alive, or her death wasn't convincing?

the problem with bleach is their deaths can be pretty inconsistent. we can see fan favorites get the most epic death scenes, and we can have villains get killed off by one another in just a split second.





As for the current look for ichigo....the biggest bother is how heavy his clothes are. Which just doesn't seem to suit him. that giant X is whats bothering me. it looks like his outfit is just one-size too big.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 29, 2014, 03:06:39 PM
He's wearing baggy clothes, Ichigo's just keeping that shizz gangsta!

And I didn't really care for Unohana really, she was always a nothing character for me. They always alluded to her having a menacing side but when it was revealed who she was it fell flat for me. If she loved battle so much, she had plenty of opportunity to fight during the Fake Karakura invasion but never did anything. Still I guess it would be a nice surprise if she popped up again, maybe healing a few people and bringing some reinforcements to the fold.

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/50214448.jpg)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on May 29, 2014, 03:23:01 PM
blegh....i hope you're saying that "gangsta" stuff ironically. i hate it when people think being a hoodrat is a good thing. although ichigo has worn heavier clothes in chapter images, they were never to the point that they look uncomfortable.

again...waiting for his bankai to lose all that crap he has on him. the wrist bands resemble his previous bankai with all that shroud, but the X seems to be permanent. which i find annoying. the fullbringer arc sort of ruins this as it was just pushed into the design, but the design doesn't add up to anything it was being built before, with the whole swastika/bent cross design that they were going for.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 29, 2014, 03:57:43 PM
Yeah I suppose they changed it because of the Manji being so very close to a swastika?

And I'm from England, of course I was saying that ironically :P
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 29, 2014, 04:11:34 PM
I don't think Kubo has any qualms about that haha. The swastika thing. Ah well, I'll see what happens next I guess. I swear though if Ichigo freaks out again I quit. I just absolutely quit. I will not forgive him for being like that again.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on May 29, 2014, 04:15:09 PM
i dont want to talk about it. its getting close to sterotypes within nationalities.

either way. i dont think so...the usage has been for a long time. i suppose it had to be dropped, but...should've been dropped sooner rather than later. but the X feels too...stereotypical in manga and anime.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 29, 2014, 04:37:17 PM
The swastika is actually originally a symbol for peace or something like that. I saw one in a hindu restraunt as well so yeah... I worked up the courage to ask him about it and the owner explained it to me.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 29, 2014, 04:45:03 PM
Yes it's called a Manji in Japan, it's a symbol found in buddhism and Hinduism. I can't recall the exact meaning but its to do with well being and peace if I recall. It's also faces the opposite direction to the Swastika.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on May 29, 2014, 05:00:02 PM
yeah. i call it swastika for the international. although this was also issues with legend of zelda apparently. either way, if more people use it,t he less controversial it gets.

still...anything would've been better than a boring X
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 29, 2014, 05:04:43 PM
You can wrack up the awkwardness by noticing the whole german theme the Quincy have going...

Kubo has a lot of hit and misses, but I like his sense of style. He's designed some pretty snazzy outfits in his run. Urahara's is so much win for me, and of course Kaname Tousen
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 29, 2014, 05:11:34 PM
I wish I could draw like Kubo, his style is awesome (Except his backgrounds :P)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 29, 2014, 05:22:45 PM
Haha, yeah. He makes limbs seem so thin and small? And the characters are just nice and tall. His ability to draw swooshy capes too... He makes things look so minimalist haha.

His backgrounds though... Actually the detail in his art in general lowered greatly from the first chapters, but that's true for all manga I guess. *Shudders at the awe-inspiring art at the beginning of Naruto
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 04, 2014, 09:12:01 AM
Oh yeah. This chapter. I am stoked again.

Spoiler
NEW GETSUGA, and ichigo is playing with them! All hail Ichigo! Lightning powers are also my favourite to have, so this girl sternritter is making things fun as well. It's great she tried to use long range techniques at least.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on June 04, 2014, 03:56:43 PM
new name, but whats the new trick? i guess we'll see. maybe getsuga juujisho is based off of the quincy sword.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 04, 2014, 04:06:06 PM
According to the translation I read Getsuga Jujisho meant "Moon Fang Cross Stab"........Not the most inspiring name :P I'm guessing it's just gonna be a higher powered Getsuga Tensho.

I want to see more from these Vollstag transformations, If it's the ultimate weapon the Quincies have, then they should give them some interesting abilities.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 04, 2014, 04:10:02 PM
The best Vollstandig I've seen was from Kirgie Opie. It was eerie, and it embodied the Quincy fighting technique of stealing reishi from the surroundings.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 11, 2014, 11:06:08 AM
I enjoyed the chapter BUT

1. Ichigo was worried for his opponent after firing a getsuga at them what the hell!? 'He's become like a true shiningami now' BULL! I thought he had manned up what the hell! These are quincy who've been murdering shiningami left and right are you seriously worrying about their health right now

2. Oh oh... The Big Bads are teleporting somewhere. I swear... I already know they're heading to the 0th division. Aaaand this is going to involve The Soul King in some way. Why must it be that in a shounen, just because something was mentioned the characters must inevitably bump into it? This is why Naruto is fighting a god now, and I suspect this is where Bleach is going... Seriously

Anyways, I enjoy the concept of a fight against all the 8 of them. That'd be epic. I suspect also that Ichigo will suddenly go into bankai even though he should be really powerful.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on June 11, 2014, 12:28:38 PM
yeah that line was really ridiculous. but i guess it was more of a warning shot? no...it sounded really stupid.

the entire 8 coming up and suddenly juhabach says something thay suggests everyone going back to him. so im not really sure if it will be an 8 vs 1 battle. and where are all the other shinigami?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on June 11, 2014, 01:07:32 PM
That's what I was thinking! Most of them injured???
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 11, 2014, 05:06:25 PM
Guess they got taken out?

At this point I really don't even know what Uryuu is thinking too...

I guess everyone comeing together to him means that he intends to absorb them or something?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 11, 2014, 05:22:27 PM
I'm guessing the remaining Shinigami will congregate where Ichigo is, coming to aid him. Although, at this point, who knows who the hell that'll be? Then Ichigo will probably head off to wherever it is that Juha Bach is going (Soul King's place maybe? If so they haven't explained why). To be honest, I'm not that impressed with Juha Bach as the Main Antagonist. His backstories pretty weak and his motive is almost too simple for him, that being he want's to just eradicate Soul Reapers.

Also, Moustache man with the pistols has shown up! Was wondering where he was all this time! :p
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 11, 2014, 05:32:20 PM
That's the thing, the big evil plot was taken by Aizen. Honestly at this point it should be a war, a battle as suggested. I'd rather a bland villain than trying to make him something he's not. Just give us the fights we want, the show of Bankais and Letz Stils, a final battle that doesn't necessarily have to rearrange the landscape to be epic, that's all.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 11, 2014, 05:39:01 PM
Yeah, that's what's wrong with this one. It seems we're simply drifting to one battle to the next, without rhyme or reason. It doesn't feel like the last stand of the Shinigami or an all out war for survival, I can't really describe it, it just seems too casual almost. The fights in Karakura town against the Espada felt more frantic and meshed together better. 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 11, 2014, 05:45:55 PM
This is what happens when you off Yama-ji like a cannon fodder hollow. One arrow I swear to gawd
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on June 11, 2014, 05:48:20 PM
The espadas were more established in the series. you would be waiting for chapters to see theur abilities.

The Vandereich took out one of their most interesting vandereich. their mot interesting Arrancars and now were left with the rejects. which by the way, the whole bankai stealing is still botheering me. urahara met soneone in hueco mundo. dont think i forgotten and chad and orihime for some reason im waiting on them. and the rest of the vizards
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 11, 2014, 05:52:55 PM
Yeah the bankai stealing. My friend keeps on insulting me when I defend bankai, says he'll go to a local pawn shop and buy a medallion to steal it. Man those devices were awfully convenient... I hope there's a legitimate explanation behind them.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 11, 2014, 05:57:29 PM
Oh god yeah! It made sense in the beginning, the Quincies can steal reishi, so I guess they can steal Bankai's. This hampers the Shinigami and gives them a legit reason for struggling against the Quincy. It seemed like a good way to give the Quincy the upperhand without just making them so OP. Then that just fell by the wayside and they didn't need it at all?

My bet for who Urahara met is Grimmjow. And where is Yorouichi in all this?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on June 11, 2014, 06:00:57 PM
i have a feeling soul society will be saved by arrancars, and hollows wil become friends! or have mutual respect for eachother. with the way ichigo works now and.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 11, 2014, 06:06:18 PM
Oh man, that'd be the last straw for me. Still a fan blind to the negatives but that'd just do me in.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on June 11, 2014, 06:07:57 PM
well where do you think its heading? what i have is just a theory. obviously ichigo will becone a permanent soul reaper
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 11, 2014, 06:15:03 PM
Yeah he most likely will especially with that ticket thing. Ah man, yeah it may turn out that hollows become friends.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 18, 2014, 03:22:26 AM
You Shall Not Pass.

*censored* Yeah
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on June 18, 2014, 03:48:08 AM
dont know where u get your bleach translations, because i looked, and havent found it yet.

Ah i knew that was what he was driving at the moment he pointed upwards. if only they showed the image of the hole. And why ichigo only? didn't renji and byakuya returned to soul society in a similar fashion?

Either way, feels like we're gong to see more battles afterall, but i'm still wondering where the heck is all the other captains.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on June 18, 2014, 06:03:26 AM
Ah i knew that was what he was driving at the moment he pointed upwards. if only they showed the image of the hole. And why ichigo only? didn't renji and byakuya returned to soul society in a similar fashion?

manga logic :P or maybe they did return a different way after all???

I like that last frame though, preeeeetty cool
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on June 18, 2014, 06:52:03 AM
Another question is, how come they didn't leave a hole like that before? Or rather...why did Ichigo go down to soul society making them vulnerable in the first place?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 18, 2014, 10:57:13 AM
So he wants to go to the Soul King's Place after all, could be interesting to learn more about the Zero Squad then.

On another note, thats who came to help Ichigo, 5 people. Shuhei and Ikkaku have already been one-shotted by a Sternritter too. I guess Shuhei hasn't released his Bankai yet, so he's still got something left in the tank. However, surely more Shinigami will arrive? (Shinji's gotta come and kill Bazz-B) Unless it's Urahara's turn to show up.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 18, 2014, 08:19:20 PM
Yeah my hype took a significant blow from that plot hole (haha hole in the sky plot hole)

Shouldn't he have done it when the Zero division came down in the pillar? Hm, so he attacked Soul Society so that Ichigo rips down from the heavens? But why did they want to capture him in the first place alive instead of killing him?

Anyways, I wonder what happened to Shinji, can't believe he got off-camera koed like that.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on June 18, 2014, 08:25:50 PM
the problem with Tite kubo is the over simplified issues. i had similar gripes when Aizen suddenly said "oh this was all just a trick to get you trapped in hueco mundo while i do my business".

its constantly putting Ichigo on a pedestal only to make the dumbest plot twists.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 18, 2014, 08:35:38 PM
It uncomfortably reminded me of the flimsy plot of a bleach movie where of course Ichigo has to battle the big bad. It's not even necessary.

Sigh, well time to see Ichigo freak out about Ishida being a quincy now.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: SwordHero16 on June 25, 2014, 09:37:08 AM
This week's chapter, too short and less content as always. But what the chapter promised us the confrontion between Ichigo and Uryu we have been waiting for since Uryu was shown to be with the Vandenreich. Orihime (nice boobs) and Chad also arrived, also expressing shock of Uryu's turning to the 'Dark Side' *cue Empire theme*.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 25, 2014, 10:29:21 AM
That chapter.

Was awesome.

So awesome

EDIT

And yes.

Orihime.

She looks healthy.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 25, 2014, 11:19:30 AM
If Uryu's turned, he has to go all the way. I don't think it'll be Ichigo who fights him though, as I think Ichigo will go against Juha Bach. He could fight both I guess.

I really don't like Bazz bee. I hope he gets his ass kicked soon.

Yes, Chad and Orihime are here which means.........Urahara is showing up soon as well!!!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 25, 2014, 11:25:15 AM
Bazz Bee pisses me off. Still wondering what happened to Shinji, this is the second time he's been snuck off camera, and now it's confirmed that the Vizards aren't using their masks for some unknown stupid reason. They should've been the trump card to annihilate the Sternritter

Urahara and... Griiimmmmmjooooooowww Jagerjacueeeeesssss
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 25, 2014, 11:32:21 AM
Oh yeah!!! I can see Grimmjow going against Bazz Bee, that would be an interesting battle! I guess Chad would face the super strength girl. Unless Orihime and Chad are OP now and they take on the four female sternritter 4-on-2 style?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 25, 2014, 11:35:03 AM
Also, Orihime's Shun Shun Rikka looked way bigger than before, so I'm assuming her power's have increased or changed somewhat
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 25, 2014, 11:36:47 AM
Yeah she blocked a powered up Ishida's Licht Regen so yeah...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 25, 2014, 11:43:04 AM
That's good, I hate it a female lead character is always portrayed as helpless and weak. I happen to really like Orihime as a character too, so I'd love to see her kick some ass for once!

Besides, she has a monstrous ability, she can reject Fate, which would be a really interesting power to explore further.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 25, 2014, 12:16:44 PM
For sure.

Man, the anime must just absolutely happen. This arc dude... It deserves animation.

How will they get up there I wonder. It looks like they teleported instantly so it's not going to be an immediate following.

And what exactly did they do to Bambietta Basterbine? Was she eaten?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 25, 2014, 12:29:15 PM
Yeah man, Bleach was one of the better Shonen shows in for me. I'd rather it stayed on the air than Naruto or One Piece. Ah well, perhaps they may reboot it sometime down the line. Hell, if there were a kickstarter for it, I'd definitely chip in!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 25, 2014, 12:36:22 PM
No kidding. All I want is something focused and epic. No need for filler fluff, just give us the action!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshiro Byakko on June 25, 2014, 12:59:42 PM
I'm still waiting for Shunsui's Bankai as he's my favorite character.

What happened to Komamura? Wasn't he and Iba heading towards the Yhwach?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 25, 2014, 01:04:52 PM
He became a dog so I don't think he'll be much use...

I wonder what Haschwald's subordinates' abilities are. She looked dangerous.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshiro Byakko on June 25, 2014, 01:15:36 PM
Haschwald is gonna be cool, I know it. I think that Ishida, Yhwach, and him are the only likable Quincies of the Sternritter. If Haschwald is confident that he could defeat Ichigo, then he has to be cool...or really bad at gauging someone's power.

That's too bad for Komamura.

Everytime I read about these Sternritter, I think about how 98% of them would be owned by Aizen's crew. Not hating on the Sternritter, but I feel that the Espada, Gin, and Tosen would just slaughter a great deal of them.

Speaking of Aizen, I wonder where he is? I could totally see him convincing Ichigo to take him to the Soul King's realm, just to turn on him at the end.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 25, 2014, 01:19:30 PM
Aizen is sitting on his chair in prison, immortal, not giving a damn.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshiro Byakko on June 25, 2014, 01:22:23 PM
Sounds like him, but I've seen theories that he escaped when the building was destroyed and posed as Kyoraku.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 25, 2014, 01:32:39 PM
What wild theory is that haha.

Question though what is Kyoraku doing letting Juha Bach invade the palace.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshiro Byakko on June 25, 2014, 01:36:45 PM
It's a pretty crazy one

Lounging around, watching all the shinigami get owned for dramatic effect, though I would think he'd want to fight the one who took his eye.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 25, 2014, 01:39:43 PM
It's the same with Yamamoto during the Karakura Town, he just chilled waiting until everyone got wiped out before he made a move. I'm sure Kyoraku should fight, which it seems perfectly poised for him to fight Haschwald......Hmmm, will have to see.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshiro Byakko on June 25, 2014, 01:42:59 PM
I want to see that fight.

Do you believe any more shinigami will do.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 25, 2014, 02:14:54 PM
I'm guessing/hoping Shinji isn't finished yet so should show up again, Ukitake and Mayuri haven't shown up in battle either so they've gotta step in at some point too.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshiro Byakko on June 25, 2014, 02:22:28 PM
Right? We didn't even get to see a glimpse of Shinji's fight, all we know is that he's MIA and Bazz-B doesn't have a scratch on him, he'd better come at some point. But that also brings fear that Shinji may have been killed because if Bazz-B defeated him during a war, why not finish him?

Ukitake is one of those captains I have to see fight at some point.

Mayuri is just a must-have because he studied their race for quite some time. I expect he's just gonna think of some cool toxin that only affects Quincies or something.

On another note, I feel like that Vanishing Point guy will show up during this coming battle.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 25, 2014, 02:23:37 PM
Meanwhile the fullbring squad is useless. 

Gremmy was clearly defeated, he's just a brain case now. It'd be annoying if he were still alive.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshiro Byakko on June 25, 2014, 02:30:48 PM
The Fullbring squad is pretty bad.

But I did like Tsukishima. His power is pretty cool and I feel that he was only so weak because he fought with shinigami.

Hopefully their training beefed him up.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 25, 2014, 02:31:29 PM
Nah Gremmy's dead and gone now.

Shinji isn't dead, you simply can't kill a character off-screen, one who has had as much time as Shinji anyway.


Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshiro Byakko on June 25, 2014, 02:38:54 PM
I hope you're right Vacant because lately, in terms of Bleach and Naruto, I've learned that literally anything can happen at any time.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 25, 2014, 02:42:58 PM
Kira died off camera in a way. They didn't even pay that any more attention. That was sad.

Tsukishima's ability is an Aizen level cheat code. 

Naruto was surprising haha..
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshiro Byakko on June 25, 2014, 02:51:18 PM
Kira? :sadbye: He's such a cool character.

Hm that gives me an idea. Aizen and Tsukishima as comrades! Bet that would take care of the Quincies.

Naruto, what happened to you? Why didn't you stop the conspiracy at Madara? Honestly, these latest chapters have made an even bigger conspiracy then Aizen's"I wanted you to get strong bit" because this one has lasted since the creation of the villages.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 25, 2014, 02:55:04 PM
I forgot about Izuru. Yeah he got a chunk taken out of him by a quincy arrow. They showed how he got injured though, we never saw the results of the attack on Shinji.

Who knows what Aizen'll do. I heard in an interview that Kubo said Aizen would return so we shall see.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 25, 2014, 03:52:10 PM
I'd need to see that interview.

Aizen will probably know something very useful. He did want a king's key created after all, and since Ichigo has one he could use a tip on how to get back up there.

Huge oversight on the part of the 0 division though. But how is Bach expecting to take those bosses on?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshiro Byakko on June 25, 2014, 03:54:28 PM
He has Yamamoto's bankai, it shouldn't be too hard.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 25, 2014, 03:58:34 PM
No kidding.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 25, 2014, 06:26:30 PM
One thing about Uryu, the only thing he said to Ichigo was "it is not within you to stop his majesty", as if to say he doesn't think Ichigo can kill Juha Bach. The way that's phrased though makes me think that seems to be based more on Ichigo's morality rather than his strength. I see Uryu turning on Juha Bach, much in the same vain as Gin and Aizen!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 25, 2014, 06:36:44 PM
And failing miserably. Looks like not all cards are on the table though. This whole business of Haschwald being the other side of Juha Bach, Uryu being the 'successor'

I wonder if they're trying to set up a new Spirit King?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 25, 2014, 06:51:41 PM
Ohhh, maybe. We shall see next chapter it seems.

I'm intrigued by Haschwalds power, it has something to do with Balance and it manifested as a pair of scales when he slashed Cang Du. So I'd like to see more.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 25, 2014, 07:02:29 PM
Yeah, I'm sure he would've overpowered that anti-quincy barrier.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on June 26, 2014, 05:10:23 AM
another meh chapter...but at least now ichigo and friends know....since uryuu was useless in most of the chapters, i feel this would've been better if we found out just like ichigo...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 26, 2014, 05:39:44 AM
Would've made the reveal more powerful yeah.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 02, 2014, 09:23:29 PM
Yikes who shot the nuke arrow?

Laughed at the mohiccan haircut and eyebrow tattoo thing.

Glad Ichigo wasn't too much a wimp about this.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on July 03, 2014, 09:24:01 AM
Ah sh!t, Urahara's shown up! Although it looks like he's about to just set about another menial task of opening a pathway to the Soul kings place.

Still, I thought Chad was amusing when he just picked up Ichigo and threw him to calm him down :P
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 03, 2014, 09:46:42 AM
A menial task that Aizen betrayed all of SS for haha. But I guess with the kings key it'll be easy.

Yeah Chad was funny. That conversation was funny in general.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 03, 2014, 11:19:20 AM
I'm glad to see a chapter that was mostly humorous. i've always enjoyed kubo's sense of humor. the thing about renji's eyebrows just killed me.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 03, 2014, 11:31:03 AM
It was actually fun to see. I didn't know I missed it that much.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on July 03, 2014, 02:57:18 PM
Wait was that a Bleach chapter that I actually enjoyed reading!?!?!

So glad to see some humour come back, even if the dialogue was a little bland I was glad to see it happen as well.

Hope it continues like this.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on July 03, 2014, 03:00:22 PM
considering not much happened, and mostly humor. doesn't surprise me that it was enjoyable. but i think orihime was again, one of the worst characters.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on July 03, 2014, 03:11:31 PM
considering not much happened, and mostly humor. doesn't surprise me that it was enjoyable. but i think orihime was again, one of the worst characters.

Yeah I actually completely forgot what she was like... That colour picture on the front cover makes her boobs look massive as well...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on July 03, 2014, 03:18:19 PM
Yeah Kubo must of thought he was losing out to Mashima and Fairy Tail in the revealing costume department, so he had to step it up. Which is a shame, since I always thought he treated Orihime and Rukia as more than Eye candy.

After shielding Ichigo from the blast, she then talks about how she was blown away and couldn't do anything, instantly devaluing any increases in power she may of gained.

Still, I've got to admit I can't help but like Orihime, she brings a very human element into the story for me.   
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on July 03, 2014, 03:21:45 PM
no....she's rather....annoying. back when she was captured by Aizen, she was human even then.

and the fullbringer arc showed she grew a bit. but now we see she reverted once again.

I can't like her....not in this chapter at least.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on July 03, 2014, 07:15:41 PM
Haha, I figured you wouldn't be find of her Loren! :P

I find Orihime works best reminding us that the karakura gang are still just school kids, with human emotions and weaknesses. Annnnd a lot of comic relief too I guess. Her and Uryu's exchanges in the SS arc were pretty funny.  That's just my opinion anyway.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on July 03, 2014, 07:24:19 PM
i dont mind that she's a highschool student and even if she's comedic relief, but i feel kubo chooses to develop her further and then suddenly reverts back to the stupid side.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on July 03, 2014, 07:35:15 PM
Yeah that can be annoying. She seems to flit between being emotional and goofy depending on the set up.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on July 03, 2014, 08:11:22 PM
i dont mind that she's a little goofy, right before she was kidnapped her humor was a little more mature and more specific to her character (such as eating odd foods), but now she's just doing it for the sake of it.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on July 09, 2014, 02:51:06 PM
this chapter was ok. once again, things suddenly move to fast. i'm not even sure if 20 pages was used for bleach. it seemed alot less.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 09, 2014, 06:12:04 PM
17 pages is the common number these days. This chapter felt like only necessary elements were there, I'm quite tense as to how the Zero Division fares against Bach, but I suspect that first guy is going to die.

I assumed bambietta had been eaten, but it looks like she was turned into a corpse doll... Is she the reason for the chapter title 'headless star'?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on July 09, 2014, 09:09:06 PM
it honestlyfelt like 10. and thats not always the norm. i'm seeing naruto last a little longer. perhapsBleachis just the lowest denominator at the moment.

Overall....i still didn't see much. i think its because Bleach wastes a bunch of space. back in the Arrancar arc, he used up more story in the pages.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on July 09, 2014, 10:20:00 PM
So quick question. Did anyone else read a translation where Yumichika said that Giselle smelled like "Semen"?

Just checking.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 09, 2014, 10:37:35 PM
yeah.

yeah i read that version
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 09, 2014, 10:59:33 PM
Wait, that's not the proper translation? Hahahaha
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on July 10, 2014, 12:09:14 AM
yeah...that was gross...i wouldn't expect it in a shonen manga.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on July 10, 2014, 12:08:13 PM
Apparently it is, I've read a couple different versions and that line pretty much stays the same. It was just so out of place, I'm having a hard time deciding if that was comedic genius or just dumb. I laughed either way.

Anyway, what I don't understand is that the Stern Ritters outnumbered the Shinigami, so how have Ikkaku and Yumichika managed to corner on of them, shouldn't it be the other way around? Unless someone's taking one three of them at once or something.

there's still three of the dudes whose power hasn't been seen yet, plus Shuhei's Bankai. I'm assuming Chad and Orihime may well go to even the odds, perhaps. In fact, I'd be interested to see how many sternritters are alive compared to the Shinigami left in action.
 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 11, 2014, 04:21:28 AM
By all rights it shouldn't even be a fight. Urahara is there.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 15, 2014, 02:22:50 PM
Fabulous Kurotsuchi has made an appearance.

Do I detect an increase in panels? Seriously Kubo, stop hogging the pages. Stuff more content in!

Inoue's outfit man haha.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on July 15, 2014, 06:04:24 PM
Orihime's outfit actually did bother me a lot in the color pages. whatever the excuse is to draw her that way.

it felt slightly longer than usual but still a waste of pages with more humor.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 15, 2014, 06:07:14 PM
I pointed out it was blatant fanservice to my friends but they shot me down saying I was overthinking things, but this chapter proves my point.

Actual action would be nice yes.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on July 15, 2014, 06:55:06 PM
I thinks its best not to hold your breath....
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on July 15, 2014, 08:07:54 PM
On the contrary, I thought this chapter was very much needed. After literally dozens of chapters of chaining battles together, we get a break and some fresh faces to the party. A bit more of an explanation would also not go amiss in regards to how the Quincys can just break through dimensions so easily, including the Soul Society.

It does seem like there's more fan service and more lewd language in this. Then again, the violence has been ramped up in this arc too. Maybe since it's gone off the air, Kubo has thought F*ck it and just gone balls out.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 15, 2014, 08:22:44 PM
He already did that when he made Ichigo kill someone, which is about the only manly thing I've seen him do. Is he daft someone in his head about Inoue? It's too much. Shounen MCs man.

I enjoyed that there was more content, but after re-reading Naruto I've seen how long a chapter could really be if Kubo does more like that, and I just know we'll return to 2 panels per page soon which makes me sad...

I wonder if Ishida will fight one of the Zero Division solo. That'd be swell. Maybe he'll get a mirror version of Ichigo vs the Femritters. Remember those 5 sword forging girls?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on July 16, 2014, 12:53:57 PM
I'm not saying we need more action, what i'm saying is there is pointless comedy keeping the story from moving on. the same empty space where characters take forever to reveal certain things.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on July 16, 2014, 07:07:48 PM
Oh I forgot to say, Yes! Yorouichi's finally turned up. I really want to see a long battle for her, where she can showcase her full power.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 23, 2014, 06:09:04 AM
Haha The Baron is back!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshiro Byakko on July 23, 2014, 06:12:08 AM
Dordonni and Circucci were surprises for me.

And was that Luppi?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on July 23, 2014, 06:19:50 AM
Pokeballs go!

I liked the intros and the ideas as usual, but by god was that a short ass piece of story...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 23, 2014, 06:24:34 AM
The first three pages have a grand total of 7 panels... One Piece often puts 7 panels in a page. Just to show you how badly Kubo wastes space *Facepalm*
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on July 23, 2014, 06:35:23 AM
Also 4 out of those 7 panels were movements and speedlines! at this rate bleach wont end for another 2 years!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 23, 2014, 06:51:41 AM
It's not even funny anymore... He really should make more panels. It'd be a fair trade for the non-detailed backgrounds. I mean seriously what has happened this chapter? 2 volleys of attacks. A retaliation. More people come in. Then he retaliates with more people.

Next chapter says they'll eat up pages with dialogue, show splash pages of the arrancar attacks on the zombies, and then zombie girl uses Vollstandig and the chapter ends.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on July 23, 2014, 07:09:57 AM
Yup... and I agree that his backgrounds suck, but his characters are really well drawn. But seriously, thats not an excuse for less content - the one piece characters aren't as well drawn but the backgrounds are absolutely fantastic, and there is still 3-4 times as much content per chapter.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 23, 2014, 07:16:11 AM
Yeah, actually I don't have gripes with his art, but since others can do much better and still pack in a lot of content, then he's gotta stop nickle and diming like this haha. Ugh, it just gets frustrating. I don't like deducting points from the manga because of the length rather than the actual things that are happening.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on July 23, 2014, 07:28:39 AM
That's the thing though, we aren't bashing on manga because of length. Yes some better stories than the big 4 have been told using far fewer chapters, but we still enjoy the big 4 for what they are. The problem is that NOTHING is freakin happening in Bleach to justify it's length in the first place!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 23, 2014, 07:35:58 AM
Indeed.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshiro Byakko on July 30, 2014, 06:53:55 AM
Kubo's pulled out all of the stops now, but one of my favorite characters is now a zombie. I thought that Giselle might resurrect the dead quincies who didn't really show their skills because Kenpachi one-shotted them. But it had to be...
Spoiler
Htsugaya!!!
Kubo has now turned Bleach up to level 10, I wonder where his lieutenant is...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 30, 2014, 08:00:52 AM
Spoiler
freaking hell Hitsugaya died...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on July 30, 2014, 08:12:40 AM
well at least it helps keep things moderately interesting :)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on July 30, 2014, 09:07:11 AM
Spoiler
Captain Hitsugaya has become a Zombie ?????????    :ohmy:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 30, 2014, 09:15:58 AM
Spoiler
Yeah looks like it. Really downed my day. Damn. I'd think he were alive but he's skin is also dead like Bambietta's is so...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on July 30, 2014, 10:02:16 AM
Spoiler
Whatshisname will either kill him for the sake of soul society and it'll be written as if he is being freed from doing something he doesn't want, or steal him back and revive him as he is such a crowd favourite.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 30, 2014, 10:32:15 AM
you people and your spoiler tags. of course this whole place is full of spoilers, it's a discussion board for bleach chapters. relax some.


@lego: he didn't have to die. she mentioned early on that only quincy have to die for her powers to work on them. shinigami just get zombified straight up.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 30, 2014, 10:35:30 AM
Yeah I know, but if he just got straight up zombified then maybe there'd be a chance. But he's looking like a zombie anyways.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on July 30, 2014, 04:53:19 PM
i'm surprised no one is making such loud sounds over hitsugaya...but....knowing kubo, he always finds a way to save them. but...who knows...a lot of shinigami have died recently.oh well....we'll see who comes up.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 31, 2014, 12:18:40 AM
It's got me though and from what I can see some others too...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on July 31, 2014, 02:34:51 PM
Hitsugaya was never one of my favourites, but he has always been pushed as the peoples choice. Holy sh!t Kubo took a bold step with this one. It was a genuine shock when I saw it. Now this is partly due to the fact that Toshiro hadn't been killed on screen (or on page as it were) and partly because of his popularity.

I agree with Lego though. While it has been stressed multiple times that Giselle can control live shinigami, Hitsugaya definitely had the weird shading to his skin identical to bambietta, which would make me lean towards him being dead as unfeasible that sounds.

I'm calling some special way Mayuri somehow reverses this, or it's revealed Toshiro's not really dead but either way if he's pulled the trigger, I think Kubo should stick with it. Only issue is he hasn't given one of his most popular characters a worthy death scene.

Other notes from the Chapter, now in improved bullet point style:
-Why is Charlotte manhandling Bambietta? She was roughly captain class, while Charlotte was not. Do Giselle's Zombies grow weaker when revived, while Mayuri's grow stronger?

-The colour cover I saw said the final thirteen head to battle or something to that effect. There were indeed 13 present in the picture. Ichigo, Rukia, Orihime, Chad, Renji, Byakuya, kenpachi, Shunsui, Soi Fon, Tetsuzaemon, Shuhei, Ikkaku and Yumichika. Are they the 13 who will head to the soul Kings place?

-Have to give Kubo props, he's really made this Giselle look twisted with the facials she/he pulls and fleshed out his/her character a lot more. Giselle is perhaps the most disturbing Quincy yet and boy do I want to see her meet her demise!



 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 31, 2014, 03:03:09 PM
***him ***his

:)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 06, 2014, 06:29:50 AM
So it's really confirmed that he's dead huh. Man, that's just really grim...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on August 06, 2014, 03:34:08 PM
I don't know, It was worded really vaguely to me so It could go both ways. They stated Giselle took control of him while he was alive. So Hitsugaya wasn't dead when he was zombified. That means there's still a chance that if Giselle is killed, he will become free or something.

On the other hand, they did say he was zombified "before his death", which can also be taken as, he was zombified then killed.

Personally, I think it's the former. While Hitsugaya's not one of my own favourites, I don't think Kubo would kill off a character with his popularity off screen. So I imagine that he will be saved by Kurotsuchi. Still should be a kick ass fight!

 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 07, 2014, 01:38:38 AM
Sure would like it if it were like that. But Ikkaku and Kurotsuchi both referred to him as a corpse so yeah.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on August 07, 2014, 05:46:27 AM
It's too freakin' short! Bleach could feign being so much better than it is just by making the chapters longer so readers don't feel like its just built up to the good part and then... END!

I wanna see Kurotsuchi doing something cool though, because he has always been a bit of a mystery.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 07, 2014, 06:16:04 AM
Kurotsuchi is a true example of a shiningami. He's not whining and crying, and he's got his head in the game. The other shiningami area ll over the place...

And yeah. Did you read the latest one piece? Lot's of stuff happened. Kubo you kill us with this chapter content seriously haha.

I'm hoping for a Deus Ex Machina revive Hitsugaya though. I don't care how cheap it'd be...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on August 07, 2014, 08:16:18 PM
Not alot happened in Naruto, but what did happen moved the story along.

kubo is just milking the scene, but he could've done that earlier at least in the final scene.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 09, 2014, 03:29:06 AM
Yeaup. Could've honestly put both chapters into one.

It occurs to me that this lack of vizard masks is seriously a plot hole at this point. How can the only hollowification we've seen be from Histugaya when Urahara delivered the black pills?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on August 09, 2014, 05:47:16 AM
I WAS THINKING THAT! But then do you think it's something to do with putting them at a disadvantage to Quincy's or something? Don't they destroy Hollows?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 09, 2014, 07:19:00 AM
Actually it's the other way round! Quincy destroy Hollows because Hollows are the weakness to Quincies. It's how the bankai's were returned to the shiningami. By semi-hollowification. It's like poison to Quincies.

Therefore the Vizards should've been the ultimate trump cards in the whole situation. In fact just the vizard crew should've been sent out to deal with the Sternritter. It'd make more sense if Juha Bach focused on them first too. But nope, every single Vizard captain has failed to use their hollow masks for some reason...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on August 09, 2014, 11:59:18 AM
UH OH it think you just spoiled the end of the plot... I don't think Kubo is really any more inventive than that...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on August 09, 2014, 09:26:52 PM
Yeaup. Could've honestly put both chapters into one.

It occurs to me that this lack of vizard masks is seriously a plot hole at this point. How can the only hollowification we've seen be from Histugaya when Urahara delivered the black pills?

It was an excuse to get them back, but i dont think a little hollow dna will create a huge change.

Still the plot hole was apparent when that one Vandereich fused a hollow form with his quincy special attack. But in this case, the pill with some hollow in it "poisoned" the Quincies to get their Bankai back.


Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 10, 2014, 04:51:32 AM
Ah right I completely forgot about that one. Seriously.

Was musing about stuff while half asleep and I wanted to bet on Juha Bach changing his appearance in some way towards the finale.

Let's hope he doesn't change into a butterfly...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 20, 2014, 04:46:53 AM
Ahaha... I'm laughing

Mayuri, you brilliant bastard
Spoiler
(http://image.bayimg.com/143fcee22a8e45bc349b2b819be853a4e8a09417.jpg)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on August 20, 2014, 05:22:05 AM
Reminds me too much of the fight between Kabuto and Itachi from Naruto....it feels exactly like it actually....so, i'm not going to praise this chapter.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 20, 2014, 05:26:56 AM
It was fun to see what Mayuri did but yeah, this was seriously just Izanagi all over again.

Is there any small chance that Kubo didn't read that manga chapter or didn't know of it? I'm surprised his Editor allowed this to happen honestly...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on August 20, 2014, 05:29:03 AM
It was really stupid.....Mayuri is fun to see, but he would be fun regardless of that.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 20, 2014, 05:33:01 AM
It just occurs to me that Kubo is not only making resurrected characters, he's also done this izanagi thing.

Man, that's a KO for him. I can't really defend how similar this is to Naruto's plot...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on August 20, 2014, 08:57:11 AM
Did Izanagi create a time loop? I thought it just was the power to alter reality?

And yeah Resurrections and zombies, seemingly coming a staple in almost every shonen nowadays. Question though, how do Shinigami, those who aren't technically living become Zombies anyway? Actually I'm gonna leave that, as it only annoys me further with the whole who come  physical things like lacking oxygen for example, effects these spirits?

But anywho, this time loop thing is odd, since they make it sound like Mayuri knew he'd be easily outmatched by Hitsugaya so had it trigger at the point of death. In wrestling terms thats called burying your character. Still an interesting twist I guess, shall wait to see what's next and hope this fight doesn't drag out for another 10 chapters.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 20, 2014, 10:15:26 AM
It gives you super human abilities so apparently it manifests differently. This doesn't beat the whole super human reflexes thing though. That was horrible...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 28, 2014, 04:10:44 PM
Things happened so abruptly in a way that's eerily familiar to Katekyou Hitman Reborn and that Eden manga. Has Bleach been cancelled or something? Three Sternritter defeated off camera.

The extra deaths make me feel grim indeed. Sure hope Kurotsuchi can reverse that somehow.

Pepe has a tired ability. Way too many psychological abilities amongst the ritter. I thought he'd be more interesting, and I was hoping to see Nanana and that glasses' dude's skills.

In any case the end game must be pretty close.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on August 28, 2014, 04:13:22 PM
once agian, barely anything happened at all. and once again inconsistent focusing on different battles. we're still missing zombie girl and the other arrancars, what was the point of revealing that?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on August 28, 2014, 04:54:02 PM
yeah, the pacing has been terrible for these battles in this arc. The masked wrestler guy and that Gremmy guy got multiple chapter battles, yet the multi-man battle royal that was taking place gets nothing? Poor choice there.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 28, 2014, 06:16:04 PM
I'm seriously thinking he got cancelled. I mean that guy doesn't even have a name now, and then what was all that about 'Oh Renji, I have observed you for so long'.

I swear if they are resurrected to zombies I WILL quit. I will.

And enough of this 'oh i'm controlling you' abilities damnit.

Is it impossible for Kubo to have a simple Archer vs Swordsman fight going on? How can Ichigo vs Kirgie Opie be the most action packed fight we've seen so far? That guy was cannon fodder but a good example of how a quincy fight could be really interesting.

Panels are as fat as ever...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on August 28, 2014, 06:40:10 PM
yeah, there's already Zombies who are being controlled by another Quincy. That was literally the last power on show. No we get the slight variation. I'm expecting the next Quincy to turn up to be able to control people via telepathy next.

Guess he's finally ran out of ideas, which is a shame since some of the Zanpakuto's and Espada releases were awesome and creative.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 28, 2014, 06:58:38 PM
Should've stuck to the four elements. Fire, air, wind, water, plenty of nice abilities to work with with those.

He was holding his cards too long I guess. Urahara's bankai, Aizen underground, Yamamoto, Yoruichi, Gin, Ishida's pops, so, so many stories that we'd have love to have seen, mangled by bad management.

Buuuut I think I've had enough negativity for one night haha.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on August 29, 2014, 10:07:37 PM
i honestly believe he focused on the wrong things. he did a great job giving a full back story to the arrancars without having to be revealed completely.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 29, 2014, 10:16:10 PM
Mmm. Did you see the Ulqiorra extra chapter? Explaining his origins? Just found it recently actually, was a nice read.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 31, 2014, 12:05:45 AM
At this point i'm fairly sure the sternritter are more detrimental to themselves than the shinigami are
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 31, 2014, 06:41:32 AM
Way too much friendly fire yeah. Cang Du and Sternritte O - Executed on king's orders

Bambietta Basterbine - Killed by fellow Femritters

And within that same group one has turned on the other.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 04, 2014, 01:02:12 PM
A long chapter...

For a battle with a disgusting Sternritter.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 10, 2014, 10:24:21 AM
Mayuri just doing his thing, magnifying everyone and ish

The Sternritter doing their thing, friendly killing and stuff
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on September 10, 2014, 01:18:56 PM
Mayuri is just a genius for sure. He is like orochimaru always planning ahead of everything. In that at least.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on September 10, 2014, 03:04:59 PM
So zombie girl went down easily. Also, that little girl must of eaten the powerful one from the looks of it. They just can't seem to get along these stern ritters.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 10, 2014, 03:22:18 PM
Yeah like, where is the love?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 10, 2014, 08:10:34 PM
about to be eaten alive.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on September 18, 2014, 12:45:38 PM
Juha Bach is amazingly suppressing everyone, well *facepalm
Its just so much talk, they could not back up.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 18, 2014, 01:09:36 PM
How is a cannonfodder Sternritter even able to deflect high class shiningami like that I mean wut.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on September 18, 2014, 01:53:08 PM
These battles are gong pretty fast. and i can see that there are some battles we're not seeing at all. and thats most likely because kubo lumped them together.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 18, 2014, 02:20:34 PM
admitedly i prefer it to his previous method of "let's watch every battle ever. even if it's between the weakest members of both sides."
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 18, 2014, 05:28:02 PM
Man that Kirinji guy arrived with so much swag and he didn't even scratch any of them. And enough making Uryu a double agent who isnt' acting like one. Let's see him take down a shiningami so that Ichigo can angst over that!

Man, i'm so looking forward to Ichigo vs Ishida. The Juha Bach fight feels like it'll be like Aizen, with Ichigo levelling up mid-fight until finally Bach is planted into a wall.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 25, 2014, 11:39:29 AM
Sternritter life expectancy is at an all time low...

I expected more than Ganju to get on board? What a useless back and forth. And he was supposed to look epic why is he a buffoon a gain?

This shiningami is a devil Corycaly >...>
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on September 29, 2014, 05:51:20 PM
I thought it was rather stupid that ganju took up time. It might have been better as a cliff hanger.....it looks like kubo wasn't even trying. The latest sternritter looks rolidiculous.m..was kubo even trying with him?

Was there a need for 2 tongues sticking out, two lazy eyes, and bare feet with excessively long toenails?

Overall...these battles happening too fast....theres no build up at all
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on September 29, 2014, 07:15:13 PM
Has Bleach ever had exciting, well built up battles???
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on October 01, 2014, 05:10:27 AM
Several battles. Battles with Renji and Byakuya were one of the first anticipated battles. In the second arc it was Ulquiorra, Grimjow and Aizen which led to disapointment. Battles got longer amd longer too up until ulquiorra though.

Now we are seeing no build up at all for any battle. But that also has to do with each sternritter making a poor entrance too Those Arrancar in the beginning were killed off by Juha bach even though they left a good impression. Lately its all about who dies the fastest. And kubo's battles are becoming predictable too. Ever since aizen its all about "no wait, in reality I have the upperhand". Almost every battle since then.

Other series save those for the best battles to actually turn the tables a bit, not to make it the last attack.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 02, 2014, 07:33:46 AM
What the hell a headshot? And you're telling me Bach has infinite troops under his control just like that? So fake man.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on October 02, 2014, 07:51:09 AM
Its like they came out his a**, just saying and at this rate he would have unlimited amounts of groups to fight everyone its like aizen all over again. but at least we knew about espadas. In the least give me hints their were such people. it would have been better just for himself to rip through the whole division but now hes hiding behind his Sh*tLichter

 :ninja:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 02, 2014, 07:59:59 AM
It just feels so cheap man. What was the whole point of playing cloak and dagger before invading soul society then? What stopped them from just blasting through during the first invasion? Didn't the zero division come down and make that opportunity to go up in the  sky just then? Didn't Bach have the same fake enemy spawning abilities? He made it seem like 'oh, i need time to rest or something'. Whatever the heck the 'shadow territory' was.

Uuuuuuuuugh!  *Grabbing hair in a rage

Bleach hurts a lot because of how simple changes could make it work better. I have no gripes about what the author wants with his own story. It's part of the ride, but the presentation and the way the characters are acting is shoddy and unrealistic within their world!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on October 02, 2014, 08:17:23 AM
problem is the past two arcs have been really nothing but excuses to keep it going.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 02, 2014, 08:29:56 AM
All in all I really want to see what happens next. Still wishing more would happen per chapter

Wonder what the Kirinji dude was doing when his friend was getting headshotted
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on October 02, 2014, 08:40:07 AM
i just want to see how it will "truly" end.....i dont care what Gin ichimaru saw that one day or how it ties to aizen or other things. i have af eeling it will be as stupid as ichigo's origins.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on October 02, 2014, 08:44:28 AM
All in all I really want to see what happens next. Still wishing more would happen per chapter

I think we may still have another year of Bleach :P
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 02, 2014, 08:51:29 AM
I wish it felt like that. I wish it felt like even more years would come along so that he feels out the battles at a more leisurely pace (since his panelling fills up so much of a chapter not much happens). I keep on getting a nagging feeling that it's been rushed by his editor for cancellation or something though.

I think I'd be satisfied with seeing everyone's Bankai's. And Ichigo as a captain. And Ichigo getting Orihime. Unfortunately he has no courage

When will these shounen protagonists from 'The Big Three' step up like Goku and get hitched
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on October 02, 2014, 08:51:49 AM
@ No1Sey
At this rate most likely.

 :ninja:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on October 02, 2014, 08:54:37 AM
I wish it felt like that. I wish it felt like even more years would come along so that he feels out the battles at a more leisurely pace (since his panelling fills up so much of a chapter not much happens). I keep on getting a nagging feeling that it's been rushed by his editor for cancellation or something though.

I think I'd be satisfied with seeing everyone's Bankai's. And Ichigo as a captain. And Ichigo getting Orihime. Unfortunately he has no courage

When will these shounen protagonists from 'The Big Three' step up like Goku and get hitched

Kubo panels are now converted to rectangle boxes its been so long since i seen it in the regular manga format. Now it looks like Mwaha (excuse me if i spelled it wrong).

 :ninja:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 02, 2014, 09:02:19 AM
Exacta

Manwha i think?


On a whim I compared Bleach 599 and One Piece 599 and you're like 'whoaaaa. All those dialogue boxes and panels per page!'

I really enjoy minimalism and his lack of backgrounds doesn't bother me. Just stuff more in there per chapter for the Soul Kings sake...

Bleach 598 and 599 could've made one chapter honestly. That windy windy sternritter didn't merit that much screentime methinks...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on October 02, 2014, 09:06:08 AM
I was hoping they would get rid of him, so the zero division can prove they were not garbage. So im glad he was over in a chapter.

 :ninja:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 02, 2014, 09:09:35 AM
The lady was taken out way too unceremoniously though...

I want Ishida to dirty his hands legitimately. For all his hate of shiningami he hasn't killed a single one
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on October 02, 2014, 09:13:21 AM
The lady was taken out way too unceremoniously though...

I want Ishida to dirty his hands legitimately. For all his hate of shiningami he hasn't killed a single one

I don't think he intends to...?

On a whim I compared Bleach 599 and One Piece 599 and you're like 'whoaaaa. All those dialogue boxes and panels per page!'

I really enjoy minimalism and his lack of backgrounds doesn't bother me. Just stuff more in there per chapter for the Soul Kings sake...

Bleach 598 and 599 could've made one chapter honestly. That windy windy sternritter didn't merit that much screentime methinks...

Future project  ;D : Take entire of Bleach and remove the "dead" panels, editing the manga so only the content is left. 1/3 of the length???
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Roshon21 on October 02, 2014, 09:15:52 AM
On my life she looked like a Damsel in distress.
After all that talk she couldnt do anything *facepalm.

 :ninja:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 02, 2014, 09:19:08 AM
Made me feel sad actually.


@No1se dead panels? As in?

About Ishida: Well he joined a team that's genociding the shiningami and stuff so... 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on October 02, 2014, 09:59:30 AM
Made me feel sad actually.


@No1se dead panels? As in?

About Ishida: Well he joined a team that's genociding the shiningami and stuff so...

As in panels that provide no content, where nothing happens and it doesn't show off a huge scene or anything instead. For instance when someone is hit in Bleach, Kubo often shows a panel of just that character saying "Ugh" afterwards... Why? it could be put in the next panel in a separate speech bubble. Also some panels are just speed lines and a slash. Whereas this could be shown as a move sequence or full body move in one panel (often it is, but the sword slash is still shown for some reason!?)

I'm just interested to see if someone cut out all of the none content panels, what the overall experience would be like.

Also Ishida to me still doesn't seem like he is fighting for the Quinceys... he may have joined them, but it was pretty out of the blue and his reasons have yet to have been revealed.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 03, 2014, 06:31:56 AM
'The Last Quincy Alive' That's interesting. Also Juha Bach said 'I nominate him' and then Nak Le Vaar (sp?) said Haschwald will be 'the next emperor'. I see betrayal happening pretty soonish. I just want Ishida to destroy some people. I guess he's got the legitimate Letz Stil now that doesn't get rid of all your powers...


Also wondering what the exc fullbringers will bring to the table. Hueco Mundo rescue mission maybe? What about Grimmjow!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on October 04, 2014, 01:48:50 AM
these characters are just flying. perhaps Bleach really is getting cancelled..would've preferred bleach at least ending at the fullbringer arc, but what upsets me is that even that arc was mediocore.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 04, 2014, 03:15:24 AM
Yeah I keep on saying that and think so too.

I mean remember there was two chapters for Ichigo freeing an earthbound spirit at a hospital? I can only complain in retrospect that he's rushing things too much. Even the parakeet hollow dude got more screentime than these major characters.

The vizards have clearly not used their masks for some odd reason.

What happened to the new shiningami kid for Karakura? Just introduce him like that and leave him alone?

What about the depressed wabisuke dude? He's definitely a major character right?

I still dont get why Sasakibe was killed off camera in a one hit ko. That would've been at least a useful chapter to see.

Yeesh
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on October 08, 2014, 11:35:25 AM
Well at the very least Bleach is going for the bad-assery :)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 08, 2014, 12:03:24 PM
Hehehe thrue that.


Buuuuut! This means that they're not going to be drawn out fights! I didn't expect them all to show up like this haha. That means it'll be one big fight that'll clear a lot of the story in a short time. Please tell me bleach aint ending around the corner!


Really glad she didn't die that unceremoniously
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 16, 2014, 09:06:34 AM
Nimaiya Ooetsu is a serious problem. Damn that sword.

Loved the cover for this chapter too
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 23, 2014, 10:54:42 AM
Useful biology lesson there.

The spiritual beings become more physical than ever.

At least it went against predictions and he got two consecutive wins. But Ywach seems like he's interested in dual wielding at this point. It's game over, time to bring Ichigo and co in .
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on October 23, 2014, 01:49:31 PM
Yeah, I'll give them their due, the zero squad made short work of these so called "Elite" Quincy. But.....Why do spirits have/need blood!!! :P

Ah, I'm going to look past it. Who knows, I guess it was never stated that their physiology was not the same as a human's.....(even though it should be)

I'm still positive we'll see Haschwald vs Kyoraku, it was teased too much not to happen. We still also need to see Urahara's Bankai, but I have a horrible feeling it'll be wasted on Juha Bach and not touch him, making it look pretty crappy. They're running out of Sternritters for the rest of the cast to fight now though.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 23, 2014, 01:59:12 PM
At this point it'd be better if it was tacked in in a data book or something. One page bankai would be a horrible waste.

Wish there was more technicalities to this final battle other than 'the one with a bigger gun will win'. Breaking into heaven, raiding hueco mundo, two opposing armies... It feels like a lot of that has been skipped over because of that fact.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on October 23, 2014, 02:43:00 PM
Its pretty much the same issue over and over. Even if they do bring back the previous who died and delay the battle, it just appears to be the same redundant formula.

It doesn't bother me that they have "blood", obviously we've seen blood, fire, ice and other forms of used. But thats what we'lls ee in other areas that aren't human. For example, if someone is battling in an MMORPG, get ready to see that.

The problem is when they use it in a way that humanizes it. Like how Rukia's ice relied on temperature. Here its relying on how much "blood" is the lethal dose. Which is just horrible.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on October 23, 2014, 03:28:45 PM
It did have me scratching my head a little...

Loren's right that they try to explain and humanise the powers and such, but I feel like the explanations are really convoluted and end up being "manga logic" anyway... soooooo... why bother in the first place?

What was his power anyway? Control of blood? He kept calling it "Lethal Dose" so can he just pick something and forcibly make it lethal to the person he is fighting? grasping at straws much???
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 23, 2014, 03:42:48 PM
Man, long gone are the ulquiorra Grimmjow days when fights were just technique and I've said this argument so many times I'm tired.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on October 23, 2014, 03:55:05 PM
Kubo is trying to use "Naruto" logic. but the beauty of Naruto is that they were human. Over-powered humans? perhaps but they had a system on how it all worked.

Unfortunately, for Kubo, Bleach never established a system. Its similar to Dragon ball where they have different levels, but they never had a mesuring system.

Either way, i'm more annoyed by the process of it all. At least with arrancar, we saw these characters last a longer time and made us care about them. But furthermore, they established themselves better.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on October 23, 2014, 03:56:36 PM
They were given a lot more time...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 23, 2014, 04:00:07 PM
Seriously. With all that mysterious hand clapping, the whole 'Ah, fighting you would be annoying' (When he saw Kurotsuchi Mayuri) and the mysterious 'Now will I have a choice to make?' (When Bach and crew left for The King's Palace) This Le Vaar dude or whatever his name was just died in a meagre two chapters for some strange reason. The 'Sternlichters' were decimated like flies, and who will even seriously consider the two tongued wind dude?

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on October 23, 2014, 04:05:39 PM
The Two tongued person was annoying. i knew he would die quick, buti was hoping to see a new form. but the rest didn't even had a chance to fight. or establish themselves.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on October 23, 2014, 04:20:21 PM
I'm kinda torn... because part of me wishes that Kubo gave himself time to meticulously, convincingly and successfully write this arc (which seems fairly important in the grand scheme of things) and make it full bodied and satisfying, with all of the characters showing that they are interesting and having an impact.

the other part of me doesn't want to sit through another 200 chapters of Bleach... soooooo....

Maybe he will make the Bach fight special?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 23, 2014, 04:42:02 PM
Fat chance

Well if he played it cool rather than announcing 'final arc! final chapters!' I'd still be at a relatively comfortable pace in my head and would be cool if things were a bit slow
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 29, 2014, 10:41:33 AM
Laser guided friendly fire
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on October 31, 2014, 03:50:17 AM
This chapter just shows how expendable most of these characters are....is there not a single one of these Sternritters that we an genuinely like?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 31, 2014, 08:02:46 AM
Nope, one can only depend on fan hype to expand on characters. Make fan art, fan fiction, discuss their abilities (if they were revealed).

I mean why in the world would Bazz B be taken out by friendly fire? After all that he's done. Robert Acutorne? Off camera KO. His abilities were never revealed and he's taken out by Bach. All that after how dangerous he look when he took Captain Kyouraku's eye...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on November 13, 2014, 12:42:06 PM
Okay, nice to see Ukitake and Kyoraku FINALLY enter the mix, kinda....

Seems pretty obvious Kyoraku is going to speak with Aizen, should be interesting.

Couple of points:
-Where's Kyoraku's eyepatch? Is it just an oversight that it wasn't drawn? Or is there a reason for it not being there?
-What is Kamikake? From searching around Kami is obviously god, while Kake apparently means "To multiply". So multiplied by god? hmmm, since a shadow was shown, it could be a technique of Kyoraku's. I guess we shall see.

So, looked like it was progressing and throwing a new element into the mix (the possible involvement of Aizen), so interested to see the next few chapters.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on November 13, 2014, 01:12:19 PM
I was much more interested in this chapter than I have been in ages, some good characters coming back into the fray, hope things continue to stay interesting.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on November 20, 2014, 12:25:31 PM
This chalter barely held my interest but at the same time makes me question more. This villain is so dull....im hoping that he isnt the real villain. Im having less and less motivation to read. I might drop it and ask what the ending is when its confirmed.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on November 20, 2014, 01:36:32 PM
After sitting through this many chapters!? No way am I gonna drop Bleach even if becomes the worst thing in the world! But yeah I feel as if Bach is being made intentionally dull at the moment just to showcase the powers fo the Shinigami that face him...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on November 20, 2014, 01:46:20 PM
Not dull...just straight forward....hes not interesting at all
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on November 27, 2014, 08:05:24 AM
Feel like i'm watching a film scene by scene on a weekly basis (or not even that much...)

Is it only me that doesn't feel any tension or anything from this fight?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Robin Ryuu on November 27, 2014, 08:10:33 AM
All the fights in this arc are not really interesting....
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on November 27, 2014, 08:15:42 AM
It's kind of a shame because I sorta like this calligraphy guy (can't even remember his name)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on November 27, 2014, 12:31:08 PM
Kinda goes to show just how memorable the Zero squad is. Its a huge shame, since I was praying they'd someday be introduced and when I saw their initial designs, I was excited. Then they've just been thrown in for the exact same battle sequences we've been seeing for the past 100 or so chapters. Character A fights Character B. A uses special power. This either is ineffective and B uses their special power, or it does hit the Character C comes to make the save. Rinse and repeat.

Which is a shame, since Bleach has some of my favourite fight scenes and if you look back at the Fake Karakura town battle, it was a similar formula. But the fights were more engaging, it felt like more was on the line, there was more tension as we'd been part of the build up to this war from the beginning. Each battle looked more impressive, more shocking and you cared for for the fate of the participants.

Having said that, I don't mind this battle too much, since the head of the Zero squad is matching up to the Head of the Quincies. There seems to be a familiarity between them, which makes me intrigued about their history. Now most of the battles have played out, I hope this is the start of an upswing for the Manga. I'm still really looking forward to Kyoraku vs Haschwald and seeing what Urahara's up to.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 27, 2014, 12:51:26 AM
...

He is his FATHER.

Also... Protect us all Ichigo! You are... The Protagonist!!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on December 27, 2014, 06:05:14 AM
And why doesn't anyone stay freakin dead is Bleach!?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on December 27, 2014, 11:16:53 AM
I officially dropped bleach. Ill read it once the final chapter is out. But for now, I keep forgetting about it.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on January 15, 2015, 06:37:59 PM
Just reminiscing about the good old days with a friend.

Remember when Ichigo met Renji for a second time in Seretei? Where he even got dizzy from blood loss? Man fights were intense back in the day.

And Ishida's combat scenes were always so interesting. Sigh... Quincy vs Shiningami. He never dissapointed, especially when he ended up meeting a captain and fought even against all logic. "I swear on the pride of the Quincy!'

*sighs
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on January 19, 2015, 11:23:22 AM
Few days back, I have started reading Bleach from begin again just to get that old feeling again. I remember even in Anime that when Renji and Renji met in Seretei they make we us feel Renji is like someone so powerful even he was just a lieutenant. In that moment I remember wondering how powerful a captain must be. Captain commanders looked like someone invincible and I couldn't even image how powerful zero division would be.

I just miss those good old days ...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on January 21, 2015, 12:00:51 AM
And when Arrancars came in. thats when it added a whole new system of power.

But now...even in the current fullbringer arc, there's no system.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on January 29, 2015, 01:15:48 PM
For goodness sake... How can three entire chapters be spent on arriving at the scene damnit. To think that I have to wait another week ...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on January 29, 2015, 03:05:09 PM
haha, some big arrival! I was wondering if Urahara and Kenpachi were going to throw down for a sec there, would've been cool to see, even if it would be pointless :P

So wild prediction time!!!! Given some of the comments Hyosube made, alongside the fact Bach was seen stabbing the soul king....Do you think it possible he takes his place and becomes soul king, thus forcing the zero squad to serve him and have them combat the arriving shinigami?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on January 29, 2015, 03:23:00 PM
Hyousuke is a traitor. Yachiru was a kage bunshin and didn't really exist.

Ichigo will surprise Juha Bach a little but will finally get whooped into using Bankai.

The Lichtritter or whatever the elites are called will fight against Chad Orihime and co
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 05, 2015, 01:32:09 PM
*reads latest chapter
*coughs blood from impatience and ichigo's stupidity
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on February 05, 2015, 09:41:09 PM
Facepalm :P

I can't get round this random manga logic, it's driving me nuts!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 05, 2015, 09:48:36 PM
I thought Ichigo was past looking shocked and surprised, but then he arrives and cuts down someone because he's being controlled. Sigh.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on February 07, 2015, 03:48:31 PM
still not reading this...the manga seems to get worst and worst...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 12, 2015, 10:36:13 AM
So the only time Inoue would legitimately be useful her god-like power is useless. Of course only swords work.

Id honestly rather kubo isn't predictable hand have Juha Bach win. The End.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 19, 2015, 08:03:11 AM
Okay I enjoyed that chapter.


AIZEN!

UKITAKE!

I want a legit fight though
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on February 21, 2015, 08:56:50 PM
i was forced to read this specific chapter (and unfortunately the previous) but this seems consistent to the soul society arc. unfrotunately, we didn't see much of it, and almost feels like an asspull.

still...it was a decent idea. aizen to return? we'll see.....
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 22, 2015, 03:39:20 AM
There is a remix chapter of when the bald monk dude gets defeated and they have Juha Bach saying just that: That he won because it was an asspull. The Bleach reddit is in a similar state of annoyance over bleach
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Robin Ryuu on February 26, 2015, 07:35:50 AM
Yesterday I guessed that Aizen would escape and now look what happened... I wonder what he's going to do now though.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 26, 2015, 07:42:57 AM
Kubo keeps on doing this  it's freaking annoying!!! How can you waste the first page on something we already established earlier, and then waste more pages on the portal thing. He just wastes so much content.

Maybe Aizen was freed a little by Bach? I'm not sure...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on February 26, 2015, 08:39:02 PM
Homie knows how to stretch his content out to the extreme!

So I thought the Soul king had a similar design to Aizen, was wondering if there was maybe a connection there. I remember Juha Bach spoke to Aizen before fighting Yamamoto, which is bizarre since Shunsui said Aizen hadn't spoken in two years. Perhaps an oversight, or perhaps it could have some significance?  :hmm:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 05, 2015, 06:14:17 AM
Getsuga... Tenshou!!!!!

I enjoyed that one. Finally can they fight now?

Aizen is just being unreasonably badass as usual. But uuuuuuggggh the dragging is killing me haha.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on March 05, 2015, 02:03:23 PM
This was the first chapter in ages that felt like Bleach. Some mystery, a cool action shot and the promise of a good old fashioned, restaurant quality ass kicking.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 05, 2015, 02:07:12 PM
Right? Right?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on March 05, 2015, 02:10:42 PM
Yeah man, now there seems to be more focus and the enemies have been thinned out a little, hopefully we'll see a satisfying climax  :ninja: :ninja:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 05, 2015, 02:14:50 PM
I hope Ishida gets some screen time. Really wanted an epic fight involving him
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 23, 2015, 08:01:33 AM
GRIMMJOW.

IS.

BACK.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on April 23, 2015, 10:48:05 AM
F*CKING FINALLY


been waiting years for this



also, where do you read bleach Lego? My mainstay manga reading site went tips up and disappeared off the internet.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 23, 2015, 12:39:13 PM
That sounds fun. I always go to mangareader these days. But you've got to get your hands on Dom Dom Downloader man. Manga from all sites and conveniently on your pc.

Drawing fanart for this. So epic.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on April 23, 2015, 05:11:13 PM
I've enjoyed the last few chapters....feels like the good old times! Hopefully, it keeps up.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 23, 2015, 05:59:45 PM
Same here. I really do think he'd do better with a monthly schedule than weekly.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 07, 2015, 03:42:11 AM
Confirmed. Kubo needs two weeks to make good chapters. I thought he was up to his usual tricks with three wasted pages showing a dude just making an entrance but at least he balanced it out with actual content.

Grimmjow! Neliel! This week has been another great week for my manga reading
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on May 08, 2015, 02:50:51 AM
i read it. started off strong, ended weak. unfortunately they brought back the fullbringers, which makes it difficult to enjoy. also keep in mind that they pushing too much comedy. i dont mind bringing them back, but Naruto brings back characters far better.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 08, 2015, 11:12:51 AM
Yeah. He only adds extra panels when it's for the gag scenes, but the information on their infiltration plan was interesting.

I really can't tell what's up with their power levels though. Is ichigo strong or not? He got blown away so easy, I really don't know how they'll fight realistically.

Ichigo fighting the Soul King... I heard this theory but thought Bleach couldn't dare do that, but  I guess shounen just has to escalate things to the obvious level. Still unhappy about Naruto fighting a goddess but at least the conclusive battle was against a fellow ninja.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on May 08, 2015, 06:16:27 PM
Naruto made her more of a mindless deity. Another is that they were direct descendents of her as well.


U fortunately though it's more than just gags, the gags get in the way of the impact of the return. Did anyone care belief came back as much or the fullbringers?

Heck the full bringers loom as plain as before.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 14, 2015, 05:04:33 AM
His tripped a loser flag by suddenly looking like a monster. But oh man why must we insist on these 'traveling to destination' chapters. How long did it take them just to reach the Palace and then be kicked off the ledge? Siigggh. I'm looking forwad to the next chapter though
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 28, 2015, 04:20:20 AM
Ended up swearing at bleach because of 7 pages of nothing. KUBOOOO FREAKING HELLLLL
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 20, 2015, 11:22:08 AM
Latest chapters have been having more CQC, and the flashback that's about to happen is actually something I'm interested in seeing.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 24, 2015, 08:56:39 PM
Man, things have happened. That fight between Haschwald and fire dude was brilliant. Returned to good old cqc styled battles of Bleach. The flashback got in the way a little, but it was necessary in a way.

Kenpachi losing his arm just like that. That was something else. Kurotsuchi Mayuri is truly a nasty shiningami as well. It occurs to me that him and Kenpachi are polar opposites and terrifying in their respective fields.

Can't believe Hisagi got one shotted like that...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Lumaria on August 01, 2015, 02:38:16 PM
And the story revert back to more unnecessary surprises.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 02, 2015, 07:24:12 AM
I don't even know why and how that hand is part of the story. I swear Kubo is avoiding the questions we want to know.

And I don't understand why Kenpachi didn't use his shikai.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 29, 2015, 07:13:32 AM
I still wonder why he created Nemu in the first place. But pretty intense chapter.

It's funny how the scientist is bringing back an action packed battle. Actually the last two fights have been greatly drawn. Chock full of style.

I really hate this quincy though haha.


And it looks like they reached 14 years of serialization! Props to the man!
(http://i997.mangareader.net/bleach/640/bleach-6023185.jpg)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 10, 2015, 09:28:55 AM
SOUL CUTTING

The hand was given a palm in its eye.

Only in Bleach.

That was a fun read.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on September 11, 2015, 04:27:27 PM
I just knew one day there come a point where Mayuri/Nemu would share a Parent/child moment. The only problem is that Nemu has always been expendable to Mayuri and having him now care for her and it be revealed that he's proud of her and just doesn't want to admit goes against his character a little.

I don't know it was still cool to see a bit into the background of Nemu's story and I have to say props to Kubo for not making it a total U-turn in the captains personality (Wherein Mayuri would declare her his daughter and sacrifice himself to save her etc.) 

Still, hope the hand dies soon and they move on. Its starting to drag a little for me.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 16, 2015, 10:24:41 AM
For me too man.

Looks like it's finally ending though.

Death by excessive self regeneration
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 16, 2015, 08:11:14 PM
weell

that was cool
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 24, 2015, 09:25:33 AM
Mayuri and Kyouraku are bosses. Nuf' said.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 24, 2015, 11:49:39 AM
it's chapters like this that made me like bleach in the first place.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on September 24, 2015, 11:56:09 AM
Exactly my sentiment man. The walk away was just badass. I saved that image in fact. Hoping for more combat along these lines.

Haha Hitsugaya is totally still rocking his Quincy outfit. It suits him stupidly.

And this artificial soul business really is a big breakthrough. I mean from Aizen to Urahara they've been dabbling in such research right? Man, it's amazing how Mayuri the scientist has the most interesting fights.

I'm hoping Kenpachi has at least one more battle though. I know he had a nasty KO but still. It'd be appreciated.



Do you understand the lack of reiatsu thing? I thought Quincies fought by gathering reiatsu in the surroundings. How are they even able to fight properly. In fact how did Hirenkyaku work for Mayuri
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on September 24, 2015, 12:22:26 PM
I think it's that the quincies are sucking up all the ambient reiatsu for themselves, but shinigami self generate
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 03, 2015, 01:08:25 PM
Kyoraku is cool and all, but I wish his ability didn't literally depend on telling people what he's about to do. How awesome would it be if he just struck down the quincy and moved on until it became an honest issue of who's ability is more advantageous? I'm not ready to have 3 more chapters just because he's fighting one of the Sternritter. Though his 'I am the Captain Commander' statement was ace, and at least there was more content for a Bleach chapter haha.

Damn. I'm missing Mayuri's fight already. I want more of that
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 15, 2015, 10:07:58 AM
Spoiler
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/legomaestro/bleach-6346285.jpg) (http://s594.photobucket.com/user/legomaestro/media/bleach-6346285.jpg.html)
Well now
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on October 15, 2015, 10:31:22 AM
Now.........THIS!!!!!! This is what I've been  waiting for! Let's see if it can live up to the hype inside my brain! :p
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 22, 2015, 10:29:53 AM
Trollkubo uses beginning pages to show an almost-confrontation hahaha

But man, that is definitely not a Bankai for team play! Even Aizen wouldn't like this one!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on October 22, 2015, 10:34:50 AM
So are gonna see another Bankai next week  !
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on October 22, 2015, 10:48:21 AM
It would be nice if we finally saw Urahara's.

I'm dissapointed in Grimmjow haha
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 01, 2015, 01:52:03 AM
So... Yet another Badass Captain Commander does something stupid?

Gosh darn it Kubo do you LIKE us being mad!? What the hell! The bankai was so badass until he got caught off gaurd flirting with his bankai hahahaha it's like a bad joke
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on November 02, 2015, 01:53:51 PM
It's okay. It's part of the formula now. Next chapter this dude will have the upper hand and seemingly kill kyoraku. Then the chapter after he'll turn the tables on him and win. My guess is he will use his other swords power (which hasn't shown up yet and I assume will come to his aid).

I like the bankai though! It suits kyoraku and is pretty epic! 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 02, 2015, 02:30:59 PM
I sure hope he wins! Otherwise it'll righteously suck. I was sort of hoping he'd stay in the game long enough to reach the King at least. Will everything hang on Ichigo to defeat Bach? I wonder who'll take Ishida
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on November 02, 2015, 06:57:11 PM
Well, given the crazy rules of his bankai, i think anything is possible. If nothing else, coboyhat hair dude is about to get a massive hole in his chest since they share damage.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 05, 2015, 12:21:59 PM
I was hoping Kyouraku had more fight in him. This quincy is annoying me, hope he gets one shot koed next chapter
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on November 05, 2015, 12:49:23 PM
What's with Nanao mother ? It was explained before ?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 05, 2015, 01:02:16 PM
Never. I'm hoping Kubo explains. He tends to leave a lot of story elements to imagination for a long time. For example The Divisions and the back stories of the Zero Squad
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on November 05, 2015, 01:06:31 PM
No it definitely hasn't been brought up before. So I'm expecting the next chapter to be some sort of flashback. Did I read it right that he said he was giving nanao back the sword though? Because I could've sworn Kyoraku had two swords in the turn back the pendulum arc, which was 110 years prior?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 05, 2015, 01:07:55 PM
He's always had two swords dude. It's sort of his thing, along with Ukitake. That means he must've somehow been able to use shikai and keep her sword for some reason. That is some real interesting stuff.

He used the shikai against the no. 1 Arrancar, and somewhere else too I forgot. Ironically the anime showed him fighting with them more than anything haha.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on November 06, 2015, 03:04:46 AM
Shunsui's Zanpakut? has 2 souls quite ninja like girl and talkative one with eye patch (Zanpakut? Rebellion arc). Ninja girl some how connected to Nanao.

(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/190px-Katen_Kyokotsu_Combined_Headshots_9802.png)

(http://static.zerochan.net/BLEACH.full.159360.jpg)

Hmm now I miss the Anime. lol
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 06, 2015, 07:13:27 AM
I miss it quite a lot T-T

And yeah, looks like it. I should've noticed that.

This fight has been more of Kubo's bad habits of filling up pages without combat. Kurotschuchi felt more tactical than anything. But it'll be fun to see this Quincy stepped on.

Grimmjow dissapointed me!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on November 06, 2015, 08:35:52 AM
I'm pissed out Shunsui's fight happening. Captain commander gets ass kicked already. At begin of Bleach Captains and even lieutenant were portrayed as invincibles. 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 06, 2015, 08:47:09 AM
Same man, same. I can't believe Ichigo is that much more powerful than him. It doesn't make any sense.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 12, 2015, 07:51:39 AM
Guuuh! Give me more info Kubo! There seems like so much background information around the Shiningami to learn but Kubo's minimalism won't allow it.

In any case a sword made for gods seems way too convenient for the particular Quincy they are fighting. I hope it'll be more useful than this battle alone.

Also do I sense a ship in the water? Mwahahaha
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on November 12, 2015, 09:52:54 AM
that ship has been sailing for a while bro
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 23, 2015, 08:46:29 AM
I suspected, but it is way too confirmed now.

If there's something does good with his large panels is the sense of style. Will never fault him for that. Sure hope he doesn't bite the dust though.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on December 03, 2015, 10:18:22 PM
*guttural moaning*

My 2nd favorite character is alive! Praise Jegus!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 04, 2015, 01:38:07 AM
Hell yes man! And he's being badass! I wonder who to thank for that. @Vacant *cough *cough might need to re recordd something.

The Miracle looks like he's going to pull a fake OP move as per usual.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on December 04, 2015, 04:26:32 AM
Hahahaha I came straight here after reading this chapter! Welllllll there's goes some of your theories lego :p
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 04, 2015, 11:53:43 AM
Man will that episode even survive. Just my luck man hahaha
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 10, 2015, 11:40:45 AM
These darn Quincies' abilities basically twist reality! I wonder if Shinji's sense reversal will finally prove useful. It was interesting how he pointed out something smart and then it still didn't help haha.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on December 10, 2015, 12:32:49 PM
If I had known captions would be getting this kinda ass whooping I might have not started reading this thing.  Kubo hate GOTEI  13 or something !!!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 10, 2015, 12:41:54 PM
Seriously, they just keep on getting owned
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 17, 2015, 10:16:25 AM
First Ichigo gets one shotted stupidly, then we have a great (short lived) action sequence haha. Really enjoyed that. Yoruichi has been too quiet.

But seriously, I thought Ichigo was beyond getting taken down by fodder like this...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on December 17, 2015, 12:51:16 PM
Yeah I don't know what to make of that. One the one hand, it kinda ruins the mystique of Ichigo's latest power up and his "last great hope" kind of aura.

Buttttt on the other, I like it. I hate when the hero is immune to something that would logically affect them as well, it explains how this dude beat Grimmjow too. I also like how Yorouichi was smart enough to hang back and listen to his explanation. She is truly badass! I do hope he's dead now though, but I think Askin will probably come back and then Urahara will step in perhaps? Unless he faces Gerard?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on December 17, 2015, 01:11:44 PM
He does seem annoyingly resilient. I'd be glad for any fight other than just focusing on Gerard though. That'd be frustrating.

Now can someone explain why the Spirit King's organs are busy hanging around elsewhere?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on December 17, 2015, 01:33:06 PM
Also...The left arm looked like well, an Arm!?

Gerard doesn't look like a heart (Unless he does what the other dude did Gremmy I think? Where he was just a brain when he died :P)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on January 21, 2016, 02:14:59 PM
Okay, I really enjoyed that chapter. Kubo just knows how to make character designs... Feel like stealing his drawing techniques again. And so interesting too. Looking forward to the next.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on January 22, 2016, 06:00:28 PM
I know it took an unexpected turn that  chapter did for sure!

Spoiler
Wasn't expecting a meeting of Ichigo and Uryu so soon. Will be interesting to see how they deal with Haschwald

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 11, 2016, 02:09:40 AM
Spoiler
(http://i995.mangareader.net/bleach/662/bleach-7045291.jpg)
(http://i997.mangareader.net/bleach/662/bleach-7045321.jpg)

Wow

Wow.
Spoiler
(http://i999.mangareader.net/bleach/662/bleach-7045357.jpg)

Walks away from laptop with his hands on his head. Nosebleeding the whole way.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on February 11, 2016, 07:37:57 AM
Yeah one of the two my favorite females characters from Bleach.

I just don't get what's between these 2 guys. Friends ? or having some kind of friends turning in to lovers ...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on February 11, 2016, 10:53:32 AM
I knew we guessed the potentials (mostly) right ;) See, our prediction cast was not in vein.

Spoiler
But c'mon now.....Urahara needs to show up and nail someone bigger than this guy!!! He's gotta go bankai on Haschwald for me ;)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on February 20, 2016, 03:01:43 PM
The non existent predictionscast. Which I completely disavow.

Damit Kubo. This guy isn't worth the chapters. Will every fight be 'I have a power up when I'm about to die' from now on?!

I need to read or watch some old school Bleach to refuel my fire haha. I  want to remember when Bankais were THAT.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coach Fro on February 20, 2016, 09:22:35 PM
I miss the early stages of bleach where everything actually made some sense and characters were likable. Everything was so simple...

Then all of sudden Ichigo loses his zanpaktou like thirty times and come to find out the dude is like part everything. Then characters I once loved just got kinda weak. Chad is still my homie though. I haven't been following so I'm not sure if he's still giving villains that work. Lego,  please tell me that Chad is still relevant.

But I ain't come on this thread to hate. Bleach, imo, still has one of the best anime concepts ever conceived. I mean c'mon now, you can't tell me "BANKAI" doesn't have a nice ring to it.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 05, 2016, 08:43:50 AM
Chad has teamed up with Ganju to hold of cannon fodder off camera so... No I don't think so? He's got screen time at least. And has a new outfit.

Yeah it's a great concept. It's why fans have a lot of complaints. Or at least I do. I just drool over the potential storylines it could've taken and the things it could've done right.

Bankai will forever be epic. The name at least.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on March 05, 2016, 10:10:58 AM
Damn, now Kubo is too sick to actually make a chapter this week. I think his odds keep getting worse in the current "Authors who will never finish their stories" dead pool. He's pulling up along side R.R. Martin now.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 05, 2016, 05:27:35 PM
I was wondering why there was no chapter
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 10, 2016, 04:51:13 PM
That moment when you're absolutely proud to be a Bleach fan again.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on March 10, 2016, 07:19:48 PM
true that. that was *censored*ing awesome
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 11, 2016, 06:59:16 AM
Just stumbled onto this guy called SoulMadness. He stitches the chapters together into complete videos. Awesomeness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb4TK4sludk

Judging from other reactions too people loved the chapter as well. Man oh man I'm so stoked for the next chapters.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 17, 2016, 01:17:19 PM
I was pissed off at what happened (but it's expected in bleach fights) but that ending was fantastic.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 24, 2016, 12:41:35 PM
Zaraki brings the Bleach into Bleach.

I wish the Quincy weren't so magicks hacky though. It's like fighting with bunch of magicians really. One small mistep and some OP asspull will kill you out of nowhere
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on March 24, 2016, 04:37:04 PM
I know what you mean dude, part of the appeal to me with Bleach was that every Faction had clear rules imposed on their ability.

Shinigami had their Zanpakuto's and Kido, Arrancar had their ressurecion and Ceros. Quincies used bow and arrows and reishi weapons. No one ever had dozens of special powers and hidden abilities. Until now of course :P
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 31, 2016, 10:55:53 AM
She was a zanpaktuo all along! Kenpachi is like Ichigo in how strange his power progression is, but it's quite fitting and makes sense actually. The other unconventional would be Nanao.

This had better be epic. Looking forward to it!

Funny note, Grimmjow heart shotted a fellow Arrancar back when Orihime healed him. Is it his thing?

But come to think of it Uluquiorra had the same obsession with heart shots too. It must be a hollow thing.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on March 31, 2016, 04:17:40 PM
I'm glad that Yachiru Zanpakto mystery was finally revealed. That emotion in those panels. That is why i like to write stories.

On a side note, every Strong Soul Reaper that has fought the elites has had a female Sword Spirit. Well most of the strong ones. Shunsui =Katen Kyokotsu, Mayuri =Ashisogi Jizo ( it gave birth. it's a female), Kisuke=benihime, Kenpachi= NozArashi (Yachiru). All of them had female vice captains.

Funny pattern right?

I'm not implying anything, but you can with the story development. What is Kubo doing with this pattern?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 31, 2016, 04:29:12 PM
"Hell hath no fury?" Perhaps.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on March 31, 2016, 04:48:43 PM
"Hell hath no fury?" Perhaps.

Do you think Kubo is following the idea that there should always be a balance between masculinity and Femininity in characters. For Kenpachi it is kind of weird though but he is super masculine so this would even his character out a bit.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on March 31, 2016, 05:18:08 PM
It would match with a lot of things, but I think Kubo is very intuitive when it comes to creating characters and doesn't think things that far ahead.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 07, 2016, 02:20:24 PM
After reading that raging awesome chapter all I have to say is

Spoiler
ZARAKI KENPACHI
(http://i996.mangareader.net/bleach/669/bleach-7344931.jpg)
HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CHILL

(http://i995.mangareader.net/bleach/669/bleach-7344949.jpg)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 14, 2016, 09:31:38 AM
WHAT JUST HAPPENED

That moment when you desperately want to discuss the latest bleach chapter but no one is around!

I have equal levels of frustration (Quincies abilities are just pure Hax) and wonder (Hitsugaya freezing the ground). But I don't know what to think of the last page.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: NO1SY on April 14, 2016, 09:46:14 AM
Well I heard you guys talking about Bleach in the Happy hour so I guess I should give it a read today... but you know i'm in no rush! Got to mow the lawn first anyways. (You hear that Vacant and Coryn! Mowing Lawn > Bleach! :biggrin:)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on April 14, 2016, 10:39:16 AM
I was kind of hoping that Gerard would lose due to his miracle ability. Like, miracles can't happen a lot or they lose their purpose or something. I wanted Kenpachi to slice him to the point where he actually died. But, i guess we need more character development for other characters.

I am curious to see Toshiro's bankai. I don't what other people say, i did not see this coming.

I liked the Kenpachi fail. 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 14, 2016, 10:55:08 AM
Yeaup, that was something else. I just weep every time I remembed this won't be animated though. Could've been some legit great stuff to see.

Still hoping.

I didn't see it coming for sure. But I need to gather my thoughts on what I think about that.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on April 14, 2016, 11:15:26 AM
what do you speculate the differences between Toshiro''s bankai and Rukia's? Toshiro was said to be a weather manipulator. What does that really mean in the context to this fight? 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 14, 2016, 11:19:30 AM
Well he did have to have his bankai weaker to use the flower attack thing, but I really don't know. Rukia's freezing is more extreme temperature changes, while Hitsugaza's is a weather sword.

I really don't know though. He's already pretty impressive. I've got to see what happens.

I wonder if he'll look that old at all times too
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on April 14, 2016, 11:22:41 AM
rukia better help. There are two Ice bankais in the same arena. Rukia needs to do something!  Oh, i forgot about Momo. She will help of course.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 14, 2016, 11:26:48 AM
I've sort of forgotten where she is though. That would be epic though for real. I think everyone who's shown their bankais completely won't be shown again though I fear.

I'm wondering how Ishida is doing against Haschwalth
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on April 14, 2016, 11:33:40 AM
Is ishida fighting him alone? i already forgot about his situation. We know haschwalth is strong even before the power swap.  Wait, he broke ichigo's sword with the leader awake. Was that brute strength because i thought he had no quincy power unless juha is asleep.

I have no indicator about ishida's power level right now. The plan is to wake the leader right?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 14, 2016, 11:36:00 AM
No, more like to hit him when he's asleep, but their power switches during night and day so one can protect the other while the other is asleep. They also have that imposible forsight ability though, so unless that's dealt with I really don't know how it'll be beaten.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on April 21, 2016, 07:50:13 AM
So now we have a guy Rukia? With no drawbacks I might add.

kenpachi is still up? nice team work but I still don't think Gerard will die until another three chapters.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 21, 2016, 10:09:46 AM
This is the epicness that I read Bleach for. I think Gerard is purposefully like that other large Arrancar 0 for the captains to open a can of whoopass on him.

Haha I think Rukia has always been a sort of copy of Hitsugaya. After all his Zanpaktuo is the master of its element, and she only got her bankai recently.

I love the grand scale of the battle. I wish I could draw like this darnit!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on April 21, 2016, 10:40:43 AM
Do you wanna bet the teamwork fight and death will be offscreen? Like Espada 0.

I read some speculations that his weakness is in his head. That Quincy symbol that shined that pulled his body back together. Weakness? I don't think so but who knows right?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 21, 2016, 10:55:31 AM
Indeed. It would make sense.

But I hope this is the last quincy like this. The bow and arrow thing would make fights that much more interesting. These instant generation and kill techniques are just too much hax sometimes. It's like that brat who plays RPs with OP characters that don't make sense haha.

Where else do you get your Bleach fix from? I visited the reddit but it wasn't my thing. Myanimelist had a fun place to chat, and I followed someone on DA who made great fanart, otherwise I'm content with chatting about it in a corner here haha.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on April 21, 2016, 11:03:34 AM
i just go to mangastream.com . The fans there are brutal in the comment section. If you say something people will attack you but if you a right in your theory, you can gloat. Half the time it is just people saying "bleach suck now" but they are just dumb. I like bleach more now than before.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 21, 2016, 11:36:19 AM
Haha yeah I'd rather not get into that! And I hate the downtrodding thing somtimes... When I'm not doing it, but I'm enjoying Bleach now. I'm seeing Bankais I really wanted to see, and the fights are stylistic as heck. I'm having fun with side characters, so I can barely imagine how epic the MCs' fights will be, let alone the finale.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Ryan on April 21, 2016, 11:37:19 AM
So now we have a guy Rukia? With no drawbacks I might add.

kenpachi is still up? nice team work but I still don't think Gerard will die until another three chapters.

I don't know, he's already changed forms from being cut-in-half by Zaraki. Any more appearance changes or power-ups is just going to be...excessive. So I'm betting that in the next chapter the resultant from the current combo will kill him, or it will allow them to destroy that symbol which allows him to reconstruct. Kind of like the marbles in one of the villain's heads in One-Punch Man that let him reconstruct.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on April 21, 2016, 11:47:25 AM
either way i'm happy if Gerard dies next chapter. Don't really like him as a character but i want him to go out with a bang. Everyone else has had excessive damage, it would be weird if all three get out of the battle unscathed. (i know Zaraki is messed up)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 21, 2016, 11:50:15 AM
Messed up because of too much power. It's just like him hahaha.

Yeah the OPM villain is a great comparision for this situation. It'd make sense

But these Quincies are full of it. Heck the sniper Quincy is in Soul Society right now as a flamingo
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on April 21, 2016, 12:06:51 PM
I just don't understand how that happened? is Kubo using symbolism or mythology? How did a person become a bird?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 21, 2016, 03:57:08 PM
I have no idea. Kubo does what he wants. It gave us a chance to see Kira though at least ,so that was awesome.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on April 22, 2016, 12:28:30 PM
Ahh yeah, remember when Bleach's Characters and abilities had set rules and limitations?

Maybe it was just me, but I found that worked better. It forced Kubo to make interesting match ups using the powers provided, rather than now where there literally seems to be no limit to what the Quincies can do. So far we've had a zombie, a hand and dont forget the god damn brain in a jar too!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on April 22, 2016, 12:35:47 PM
How the F was Gremmy not an elite Quincy? Does anyone think he was? He only lost because of a dumb move but he almost one shot everyone!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 22, 2016, 02:06:54 PM
Don't forget there was a Quincy who could literally erase his existence. How is that even normal? Kirge Opie is the sort of Quincy I wanted to see. He short arrows, had reishi domination (a quincy ability by default) and hat an imprisonment technique.

Yeah, wondering that too about Gremmy. The wind Quincy who got one-shotted felt like a lower level member for sure.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on April 23, 2016, 11:46:54 PM
So I heard there will be no manga chapter next week.  >:(

Let's say the fight just ended, Gerard is dead. Let's post up reason why that would be.

1. Entire body is frozen.
2. Senbonzakura breaks/stabs him almost infinitely.
3. Blades penetrate through his body which allows toshiro power to go inside Gerard. Not just his skin like before.
4. Gerard power is nullified finally.
5. Toshiro had the perfect counter for Gerard.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 24, 2016, 08:42:33 AM
Nuuu just when I was having a great time.

Seems reasonable actually. And that counts as every bankai revealed right? I see Haschwalt being reintroduced. At least I hope so.

I also wonder if Aizen really is done for good haha. Dude was blasting things with only reiatsu
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on April 24, 2016, 08:55:51 AM
Is Aizen even going to be set free? Shunsui is down so nanao will have to release the last seal. Maybe the holes that the sniper gave shunsui left the key exposed.   :hmm:

It looks like all the key players have been set up and used if it will be only ichigo and gang against yhwach. What purpose does aizen serve unless he will be the deux ex machina (because he used his perfect hypnosis on him already) to help Ichigo do his final attack. Kind of like what Shinji did to him during arizen vs captains battle.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 24, 2016, 09:14:54 AM
Shinsui did get shot up all to hell didn't he? Man, and that was just against a regular Quincy darnit. I thought he'd be Captain Commander level for sure haha. His bankai was dangerous for sure though. Can you imagine if he and Kisuke just released their bankais from the start at the same time and horrifically took apart the Quincies before they had a chance?

Perfect hypnosis would be a great trump card to use for sure
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on April 24, 2016, 09:26:57 AM
That was why i was happy when Zaraki didn't play during the first quincy invasion. If only he was where he was now the invasion would of been squashed, or at least more entertaining for the Kenpachi fans.

For those who say perfect hypnosis won't work on him, i just want to put my opinions on the matter. Here is my setup for the argument.

Why did Kubo put that Yhwach was under aizen's ability? I would say foreshadow.
Yhwach can see the future only with the people he sees. I don't have proof yet, but i think there were moments where he was caught off guard because the characters that surprised him weren't there. Plus, what is the point of the war potentials if he can see everything coming now.
Aizen's ability will slow the way he process the informations he gathers. First he sees the future then acts according to those actions which will mess him up in the fight which will require him not to use it.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 24, 2016, 09:38:34 AM
That actually sounds legit! If he could screw up his perception even a little it would make sense. Was it revealed why Aizen was a war potential again? I forgot if it was mentioned by Askin

And come to think of it, Askin in this scene...

(http://i7.mangareader.net/bleach/582/bleach-4979333.jpg) (Chapter 582)


What did he mean by that? I thought he had some sort of plans against his fellow Quincies, or was he just referring to being called up to battle when he doesn't want to fight?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on April 24, 2016, 09:46:52 AM
I'll have to look at everything Askin says because he served as major plot info giver for the audience. Since his character was suppose to be clownish, i bet somewhere he says exactly what we need to know but we didn't process it because we were fooled.

That panel is interesting because we know he is very loyal to him so i don't see betrayal. But i don't remember him being super lazy. Except when he was drinking tea during the invasion. But of course that could be part of his fighting style. Lure the victim into drinking tea so he/she would die while he only drinks tea. That is a funny and messed up way to die.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 24, 2016, 09:56:41 AM
Indeed. His ability was so absolute even Ichigo was one shotted off camera. Guh, so frustrating. How did the badass black guy get defeated again? The one with the really sharp sword.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on April 24, 2016, 10:26:01 AM
Defeated by black on black crime. Seriously though, it was lille.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/bleach/images/d/dc/604Nimaiya_is_shot.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/190?cb=20141112034624&path-prefix=en&format=webp


Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on April 24, 2016, 10:50:57 AM
Ooooh that was painful.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 02, 2016, 05:01:39 PM
Resurrection no jutsu! I loathe that, seriously, it gets a bit old sometimes. These Quincies are a bit like Cockroaches at this point. Magic Cockroaches that just pull hax to survive. I mean even Juha Bach does the same thing...

But I enjoyed the othre bits of the chapter otherwise. I knew it was leading up to this encounter, but I thought Kubo would want to get rid of all the other fights first if there are any. Stuff like the vice captains and the like. Wait a minute, is this miracle dude the last standing Quincy? Him and Haschwalt? That doesn't seem right haha.

Damn. Could Bleach be ending around the corner? I will be so hyped for that. 
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: LittRL on May 02, 2016, 06:36:00 PM
Everyone thought it was gonna end after the Aizen fight and Ichigo losing his powers. Made sense. Now people gonna be thinking it'll end when he beats Yhwach who is pretty much god now. This point in the story would also make sense, but with how lil ol' Kubo seems to be dragging things out I honestly think we're in it for at least until chapter 1000.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 02, 2016, 06:46:16 PM
Yikes, that I would not like.

I think I was actually okay with things ending at Aizen to be honest. Heck, Bleach ending at the Rukia arc would've made it more legendary than you'd think. Those first 54 episodes or so were just brilliance
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: LittRL on May 02, 2016, 06:53:25 PM
It's gotta be tough though, huh? Writing a chapter every week without having planned on reaching hundreds upon hundreds of chapters. You'd almost always get sidetracked from whatever the main goal was like Naruto until the goal somehow changed.

Bleach definitely had some good arcs but now it all kind of seems like it's riding out the momentum it has left until it eventually stops at a lukewarm ending. Still in it for the long haul though.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 02, 2016, 06:58:50 PM
Same here man. I gripe because I like it. Series I truly have no feelings for or saw no potential in I just leave to rot and die. I mean heck Naruto managed to stick an ending I could live with, and that was after it seriously ended up frustrating me at a point.

Dude I can't even imagine it. Every. Single. Week of the year. He's been sick once or twice but he's absolutely gotten each and every chapter in. It's just amazing what these mangaka do.

Strangely in my head 'mangaka' is synoymous with some species other than human that can pull that sort of thing off without any problems haha.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: LittRL on May 02, 2016, 07:05:31 PM
Gotta give Kubo props for keeping it up but man if the comments section of the sites I read Bleach on aren't filled with disdain for story. Funny how the people hating on it the most are likely the most invested in it.

Dude I can't even imagine it. Every. Single. Week of the year. He's been sick once or twice but he's absolutely gotten each and every chapter in. It's just amazing what these mangaka do.

Strangely in my head 'mangaka' is synoymous with some species other than human that can pull that sort of thing off without any problems haha.
You mean:
Spoiler
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--4UoYWBRJeo/VYyXJJpFRxI/AAAAAAAAAaQ/gjrawejhXDg/s1600/niizuma_eiji_by_vanilla_bones-d8ihoy2.png)
?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 02, 2016, 07:11:29 PM
Yes, exactly like that.

And I expect I'm one of the same people too haha, but if I even dared to see him face to face I would slide bow and beg him for an autograph.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on May 02, 2016, 07:23:14 PM
Thanks for not completely spoiling the the chapter for me :thumbsdown:

Luckily, I stopped after resurrection Jutsu. I didn't think it would come out today.

There goes my idea about Gerard dying with the combo move. I guess the definition of miracle will have to change now.

Who's time is it to shine to beat Gerard. It's shinji and momo right? I want to see the fight end. I don't care how now. I just want to see kubo write his way out of the corner.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 02, 2016, 07:33:10 PM
My bad haha. Miracle means bulldust now maybe?

I really do want this one fight to stop though. You know I found the Baron fight way back when more filled with story content than these matchups that keep on happening haha.

Looking forward to the next for sure though

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on May 02, 2016, 07:48:45 PM
People keep saying orihime death flag is up. Bleach (Kubo) will never kill her!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 02, 2016, 07:50:29 PM
She isn't my favourite character, but I'd feel sickened if she died. It'd be as grim as a powerpuff girl dying or something.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Ryan on May 05, 2016, 04:16:51 PM
Guhh.... Gerard god form? I guess that's not too far out. Are we going to need that god slayer zanpakuto to kill him?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on May 05, 2016, 04:24:10 PM
That will be hilarious, Nanao for the win! I really like her, uptight girls with glasses are my favorite but the bleach fandom will kill themselves if she has a significant role in the story.

I say Shinji, momo and Aizen will fight Gerard. I feel like they have to do something together to resolve their hatred for each other. Not resolve but at least have a scene where it will be addressed or something.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 19, 2016, 06:43:05 AM
Nuuu! Ichigo's fight has become a battle of who has the greater energy blast. I don't mind Kubo jumping to other scenes as a result. I wish I could see more of Ishida's fight though. I mean come on you can show a giant hand fighting but not a Quincy Vs Quincy fight? Even Bazz B got more screentime on that front despite the flashback.

Loved that last page. Was so sad that the chapter ended suddenly haha.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 19, 2016, 08:20:30 AM
Nuuu! Ichigo's fight has become a battle of who has the greater energy blast. I don't mind Kubo jumping to other scenes as a result. I wish I could see more of Ishida's fight though. I mean come on you can show a giant hand fighting but not a Quincy Vs Quincy fight? Even Bazz B got more screentime on that front despite the flashback.

Loved that last page. Was so sad that the chapter ended suddenly haha.

I think that may just be the opening exchange. My guess is that after the Gerard and Haschwald battles are concluded, then Ichigo vs Juha Back will take centre stage.

As for the new faces showing up (it's about time), It'd be nice to see them team up to take someone down, but I reckon Ryuken will go to Uryu and Ishhin will go to Gerard. Would like to see the Father/son tag team so hoping that fight will get more time.

All in all, i think they need to do away with Gerard and then crack onto the possibly final two battles. I'm looking forward to it and hope it is truly epic!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on May 23, 2016, 02:52:22 PM
For all us writers, I think we should pay close attention to Gerard's fight because I think there will be a huge pay off. It will prove kubo's writing talents. This can't be bad writing  :sure:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on May 26, 2016, 05:50:58 AM
Just look at Ichigo now.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 26, 2016, 08:01:31 AM
HAHAHA OH MAN
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on May 26, 2016, 08:17:27 AM
My reaction to that last page....(https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/untitled-15.gif?w=1000)


Also...Hooray! Orihime is being used correctly during a battle for the first time in forever! :P
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on May 26, 2016, 08:28:23 AM
So he actually has a horn coming out of him? Like from his actual skull? I'm just picturing it right now. It looks weird to me.

Does this relate to kenpachi's little horns? I know he has no hollow powers but kenpachi bankai also had that cloth over his bankai handle which resembled ichigo's sword.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Ryan on May 26, 2016, 05:09:37 PM
I've been waiting for this for years. ITS HAPPENINNGGGG
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on May 26, 2016, 05:25:11 PM
I've been waiting for this for years. ITS HAPPENINNGGGG

get ready to wait another month to see ichigo again. This has to be bait that Kubo is going to use to keep us waiting for weeks.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on May 27, 2016, 03:51:10 PM
That sounds ridiculously true!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on June 02, 2016, 08:41:24 AM
I was wrong. Kubo won't bait us.

Spoiler
Gran Rey Cero!

For those who watch Soulmadness youtube channel for bleach, it's been terminated.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 02, 2016, 09:17:20 AM
DAMN THAT CHAPTER WAS AMAZING
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on June 02, 2016, 09:22:15 AM
this chapter confirmed Yhwach's limited omniscient ability, right?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 02, 2016, 09:29:17 AM
Yeah. I looked and didn't see his eyes. So maybe there's a chance in terms of fighting him.

In any case if he doesn't kill Ichigo he SHOULD have a moment where he needs to sleep or something, so he can still be screwed over by Ichigo.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on June 02, 2016, 09:30:57 AM
Oh I forgot he wasn't using it because he wanted to make the moment last. ichigo plot armor detected!

I think this will be last day for the battles. Yhwach got his rest for the final battle. I'm surprised he doesn't have to go to the bathroom first thing in the morning. :tongue:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 02, 2016, 09:36:17 AM
Ichigo destroying the palace in one blast was amazing though. But I still don't feel the terror of the other hollow, or the epicness of the Nimaya dude when he one shotted the Sternritters. I dunno. Energy blasts feel more like hot water being splashed on people rather than heavy cutting attacks
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on June 02, 2016, 09:49:12 AM
For a guy who uses a sword as a weapon, it sucks he will never use any sword skills with it.

I remember when hollow Ichigo in the filler sword arc, he knew how to swing the sword around  :clapping:

But this is the fate for bleach. Remember the final getsuga tensho, it was just a swing down motion.

I think it's gonna happen again but with ceros. Because you know, hollow reitsu should kill him, especially now since he got cut with it.

I also forgot to add, Kubo removed the one weakness that Aizen had, hold the sword before it is used. Then I thought, new victims have to see his sword for it to work, how did Aizen get ywhach? Did they meet before?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on June 04, 2016, 10:56:42 PM
So ichigo has become an unicorn   :ohmy:
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 05, 2016, 05:03:43 AM
Damn Hasith I can't unsee that  now
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 09, 2016, 05:28:31 AM
Bankai... I'll never find that to be awesome.

So much sword fighting! So glad for that.

But damn Juha Bach's ability is quite unfair. OP! I'm glad that Ichigo's Getsuga actually got a hit in though
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 09, 2016, 01:45:20 PM
Bankai... I'll never find that to be awesome.

BETRAYER!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 09, 2016, 03:20:16 PM
Dammit! My typos! I meant I'll never fail to find that awesome. The chapter was epic!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 16, 2016, 06:51:01 AM
Damn, I am amazingly pissed. But I have to hand it to Kubo. Didnatseethatcoming.

But DAMN.

I thought... I thought he was going to be epic. Damn! What the hell.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 16, 2016, 07:53:18 AM
Yep...that was a shocker!

Interesting to see what they do next?

Spoiler
Wondering if they'll pull off a retreat somehow?

Could possibly be time for Aizen to step in. His Zanpakuto can affect the senses and we've already seen Aizen affected Juha Bach before. Wonder if his bankai can alter peoples senses in the future?  :hmm:

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 16, 2016, 07:59:46 AM
I saw that suggestion on reddit. It may be the only reasonable way!

Yeah, at this point there is nothing else to do but that. Maybe the 'rents will be able to do something. Or stall time until the power switches again? Haschwalt doesn't have that much of a perfect control over it after all. Seems like the only reasonable way to attain victory.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 16, 2016, 09:06:36 AM
i like how its not so straight forward though, not just trading power up's and thats it. Set up to be more interesting than that! :D
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 16, 2016, 09:07:44 AM
Man I really need to see the next chapter. I swear if they jump to Ishida I'll flip a table!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on June 23, 2016, 09:05:42 AM
Screw what people said about this chapter. I liked it. You need moments of despair for a final boss fight. I really liked Ywachs dialogue in this chapter.

I thought ishida had the same ability as the boss but antithesis is pretty cool.

Yes, asspulls are coming but come on, Duh!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 23, 2016, 05:40:56 PM
Luffy and Naruto never need to go through this level of impossibility. I just have to give Kubo props on that one.

I thought Ishida had the same ability too!

Oh man, I'm desperately wishing for the next thursday to come. I just need to see what happens next. Definitely back on the Bleach bandwagon again with no regrets. I'll have my gripes but the last two chapters just got me man.


I'm wondering, within universe there seems to be a few possibilities of defeating Bach. Ishida is the obvious first example. But what about Tsukishima? Aizen? Even Shinji if given plot armour could potentially make Bach's life difficult (Although he'd definitely pull an Aizen and just get used to it or something) But the possibilities are really interesting to think about...

Haha, that feeling again where I want to talk about this sort of thing in a place where Bleach is talked about then remembering the communities tend to tear you apart on that front ...sigh
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on June 23, 2016, 06:26:53 PM
For Tsukishima, i think it is kind of interesting. Altering the past for the present. Almost the opposite ability of the Almighty. I forgot that he was able to put traps as well when he fought Byakuya. But i think when he battles, he only adds emotional tolls. But just like Byakuya, Bach might not give a damn. However, if he cuts Gerald, that would be a game changer.


There has to be a Five verses 1 battle eventually against him. I just don't want Ichigo to solo him. Finish blow sure, just not solo him.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 23, 2016, 06:30:18 PM
All I wanted was a technical fight to be honest, but at this rate it looks like Ichigo will need to energy blast him to win. I'm unhappy about that, but it's still really exciting stuff.

I guess the fathers have got to step in right now to be able to do something.

If there's anything I want to see, is that Inoue's power becomes truly useful for something. What Aizen described made it look terrifying or useful.

I also want to see people other than Ichigo get one-shotted as well darnit! Well I guess the Zero Division fit the bill, but it's so pathetic how Ichigo is always the one with the despairing face.

I thought that after he got his shiningami powers back... after he got Zangetsu reforged... He was completely done with feeling despair. I understand his despair, but I'm so tired of seeing his eyes just give up like that.



On another note, I'd kill for an anime darnit!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on June 23, 2016, 06:36:43 PM
Orihime rejects all phenomena. Yeah, right.

I thought she could do something epic, something that would move her up a level. I at least wanted a panel where Bach would be surprised over her ability but it's within his capabilities to not even worry about it. Such a shame.

Well, i'm looking forward for next week for sure.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 23, 2016, 06:41:04 PM
You even forget she was actually in this chapter release... Dammit man. This is where Kubo's storytelling gets lost. I wouldn't even care if it was filler frames of her making dialogue or having thoughts. You have to infer a lot of the story from what's happening haha.

But then again, it's fun to rage at the asspulls... Sometimes? In any case I've given up on her being relevant. I think Chad and Ganju just accepted their power levels and walked off the battlefield.

Truly yeah .
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on June 23, 2016, 09:53:55 PM
So I'll be honest, that's one of the more well put together chapters as of late. Pacing was good, it pushed back between both places well, just the right of amount of action and coolness. Even a more even amount of white and black in the coloring of the pages. very balanced on the whole
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 23, 2016, 10:13:13 PM
Me and lego did a thing.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifVAsNi5qm8
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 24, 2016, 06:28:12 AM
Hell yeah dude!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on June 30, 2016, 09:14:50 AM
Why the hell did it end like that? Gerard deserved better! I'm disappointed.

So 20 chapters left?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on June 30, 2016, 03:16:29 PM
Perhaps? When Naruto said it was definitely ending it was 10 chapters... I really thought Ishida would have a fight but it looks like the only aim was for that dialogue to happen.

Damn, Gerard and the rest of the Sternritters getting KOed in the better part of two pages sucks too much! I thought Haschwalt would have to release his Vollständig along with Ishida or something, but nope, his powers just got suctioned without so much as a struggle.

I'm thinking Ichigo's Shiningami powers will evolve since they're now pure. But that should make him weaker right? Damn, I'm still reeling from his loss.

Wondering what'll happen next. I can't believe I'll see Bleach end this year! This is really something else.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on June 30, 2016, 09:34:54 PM
Bleach Chapter 680 discussion

https://www.youtube.com/v/watch?v=HNKRcms-KYw
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on July 07, 2016, 05:40:58 AM
Tsukushima for the save! I saw it coming but I didn't think it was the only option they had. now ichigo is happy again, what a ride he's been through.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 07, 2016, 01:58:08 PM
Dammit I loved this chapter. Kubo can really make the right things happen sometimes. I'm glad to see him back on his feet, but he needs much more than a pep talk to be on his feet again.

That bankai blade is long as heck!

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on July 07, 2016, 07:41:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/watch?v=b3A-N7bhkWY&feature=youtu.be

Introducing PODKAI! Chapter #681! Theres a lot to discuss! :o
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on July 13, 2016, 07:34:21 AM
Aizen, show the world your power!

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 13, 2016, 07:36:17 AM
Either that or his chair (there's a running joke that his chair is OP) .

Looking forward to this final confrontation.

Huh, storywise though I really thought there'd be something like Haschwalt and other Sternritters seeking to overthrow Juha Bach for his throne. I even once thought that Ishida really would inherit the title as King and Juha Bach would sit in the background.

Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on July 13, 2016, 07:41:21 AM
It kind of bothers me renji is there. I want the very best to defeat juha. 5 vs 1 or even 20 vs 1 will be cool. But it better not be Ichigo, Renji, Uryu, and Aizen vs Juha Bach.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 13, 2016, 07:43:31 AM
He's always sort of been the bro methinks. Rukia should probably have the role more, or Ishida if he were a better fighter, but Renji has always been a great counterpart to Ichigo. The Hero and The Villain.

20 vs 1 would be something else. I sort of want the fathers to jump in as well at least. Isshin can't leave this manga without showing his bankai darn it! Even if it's just one panel.


Sigh, the worst thing about the few amount of chapters remaining is Kubo eats up so much panel space with his drawings. I don't mind if he info dumps at this point.



What do you think of the potentials for a sequel?
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on July 13, 2016, 07:51:03 AM
I think Bleach is dead as a series. I know hype is high right now but that will fall back down once everything is over. if the ending sucks, there is no hope for a sequel. Even if it ends with a great fight and everything fits together nicely, the fan base would rather it end than be stretched even more than it already is.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 13, 2016, 01:58:50 PM
Oh gawd BLEACH came out! Yes! More panels! Chair-sama died! The arrowhead! Things happened!

Dammit I have to wait one more week again.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on July 14, 2016, 06:12:14 AM
If Uryu's dad does nothing in this battle I am going to freak the F out. The who manga series he does almost absolutely nothing. Kill the guy that killed your Effin Wife!

Same with isshin.

I am probably in the minority here and probably because I am already older, but I hate it when kids/teenagers save the world! Adults should support their children but not completely let them go without actual assistance.

Aizen, please don't dissappont me. Please don't fall to ichigo's level.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 19, 2016, 06:40:20 PM
Haha, I think I'll probably be bitter about it too. Heck, I already find it annoying in some of the newer anime, but I thought: Why the hell not have a young person with dreams win the fight? Seinen already has a good amount of heroes I can root for, and I don't think I'd have gone for a shounen with old geezers walking around.

As far as I know the fathers won't take place in the battle. Kubo is just too minimalist for that sort of thing. The soul society arc was the most he'd given us in terms of content. From Renji's techno glasses to the Soukyouku, there was a lot of content and meetings. But his style has always been big panels and mysterious dialogue. I rage a lot about it, but it also simply looks cool.

Sigh. If he did take a page out of Hunter X Hunte or One Piece though, I really think the anime would've continued. There's also a reason why Bleach is very much hate-read by people: There's so many situations people have 'better' ideas for. I think I'd be able to think up Bleach ideas ad-infinitum.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on July 21, 2016, 09:57:06 AM
Epic chapter. I would kill to see this animated. 10/10
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on July 21, 2016, 10:36:52 AM
Concurred
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on July 21, 2016, 11:35:08 AM
Aizen be like

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/582/621/da3.jpg)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 04, 2016, 01:14:12 PM
Well, looks like we got a little more time after all. Two weeks till the end
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 04, 2016, 02:19:55 PM
Dammit Kubo!!!!!

Oh man, Rukia in a haori. Sigh, 10 years time skip, that's pretty massive.

Looking forward to adult ichigo. Should be awesome.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Fulgrate on August 05, 2016, 10:18:49 PM
I just can't believe the end is upon us. Bleach is so unique and one of a kind. I don't think we will see a manga like it again for quite a while.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 05, 2016, 10:22:06 PM
Fulgrate! Long time no see. And that's for sure. But the two week wait is still going to destroy me a little haha...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Hasith on August 06, 2016, 12:00:59 AM
We need a head count on captains who have survived the  last battle.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on August 06, 2016, 03:23:40 AM
Yo! Lisa became a captain!

I think the only one that got it the worst was komamura but he went out like a boss.

It's going to end with ywhach oozing up and Ichigo just straight up decapitates him, then cuts to ichigo smiling at the audience.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 07, 2016, 07:39:42 AM
That'd be way too evil methinks hahaha. I wonder if he's even returned to the real world after all this time.

What were those black things again that fell from the sky? The grudge of the soul king or someting?

Come to think of it, I never asked why The Soul Kings' limbs were walking around in Quincy form and stuff. One arm was a Sternritter, the other was in Ukitake's lungs. Juha Bach was the son, and I forgot the other pieces but they were mentioned I think...
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 07, 2016, 09:22:56 AM
Yeah, my bet it's some sort of soul King residue, not a full on redirection
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Vacant on August 07, 2016, 03:58:13 PM
Dammit! I've got a plan for a video which means im going back! I'm going to re-read the entire final arc! :o See you on the other side!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Nairbons on August 18, 2016, 11:55:42 AM
I just finished the last chapter of Bleach. It probably would have made more sense if I had read the previous 300 or so chapters of Bleach. Oh, well. Looking forward to the continuing adventures of Ichigo's son, Boru-two.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on August 18, 2016, 02:36:35 PM
I'm satisfied with it.

For those who want to know if the guy (kisuke Urahara) who plans ahead by creating 500 different what if scenarios is alive, use your freaking heads. You don't need to be spoon fed.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Synctual on August 18, 2016, 03:45:22 PM
So that's that, Bleach has come to an end? Damn, Naruto and now Bleach. I'm glad One Piece still has a decade in it's belt. Goodbye Bleach, you beautiful work of art!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on August 18, 2016, 04:17:53 PM
I just can't look at this critically at the moment. Yes, I have some knee-jerk thoughts, and I weep at the forever sinking of my original ship, but I just want to enjoy ze bitter sweet feelings of goodbye. Man, Bleach, what a ride, what a ride.

Congrats to Kubo Sensei on getting so far. Loved the messages that the other mangaka posted as well. Really touching.

So... Bleach live action huh? I wonder how that'll be.

(http://img.mangastream.com/cdn/manga/128/3617/261.png)
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on August 18, 2016, 04:29:05 PM
live action NEVER EVER looks well on screen. NEVER EVER FOREVER! that was me fake screaming but seriously, Jesus no.
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Coryn on August 18, 2016, 04:32:20 PM
Well, I'm not disappointed necessarily, it's pretty much what I expected  for the final chapter (and at least they didn't suddenly side track everything to kill a god that's never been mentioned before)

Mostly though, having an ending makes it possible to actually buy all of it! I'm only 61 volumes short!
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on August 18, 2016, 04:43:57 PM
i forgot to post this up. You know how Chad's abuelo told him to never hurt anyone, this is how Chad's career was probably like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHTxOlFfUa0
Title: Re: Bleach Manga Chapter Discussion
Post by: legomaestro on November 28, 2016, 05:00:45 PM
I was looking for a certain Bleach picture to change my avatar with when I finally went to the wiki to find something that worked. It finally, after many years hit me that Bleach has ended. It finally did. I'm totally annoyed by this fact, I'm totally sad, totally happy that I got to see the ending, totally pissed off at Shounen Jump because I'm not sure they let Kubo finish every chapter, but all in all at ease because thank the internet and my personal feelings that Bleach shall live forever, whether in terrible fanfictions or brilliant cosplays (or vice versa)...

... sigh... Bleach. Bleach Ended. Even Naruto damn it! Hahaha what the hell, I thought The Big Three were immortal.