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Title: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: Aeaphie on June 22, 2018, 06:47:10 PM
For me, it would be, no more fanservice and ordinary highschool MC that becomes OP in the next few episodes. I'd rather have Death Note like anime series instead.
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: devola on June 22, 2018, 06:53:20 PM
I'd like to see an anime done with Wes Anderson styled dialogue/cinematography. Something with more sarcasm and subtlety than you typically would get in anime. I'd also like for there to be more multilingual seiyuu that can voice characters from around the globe when they show up in anime. It's not a huge problem but engrish is really jarring sometimes when it shows up unintentionally. I recognize that authenticity isn't a priority for anime at large though, since most anime is marketed towards Japanese people where the distinction between engrish and english isn't always important. Still it'd be nice.
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: MahluaandMilk on June 22, 2018, 07:05:36 PM
I'd like to see more characters that I genuinely connect with. It feels to me these days that a lot of the major popular stuff in the scene just doesn't click, like the writers play it too safe, if you follow. Anime feels so formulaic and trope-y, and, while that's not a bad thing innately, it keeps falling flat.

But, then again, I can't really expect things that speak to most people to speak to me also. That might be part of the problem, really. Some writers try to broaden the audience so much that the creation can't handle it well.

On the other hand, it may be partially my fault as well. I don't form attachments easily in the first place, so to expect things to succeed in forming attachments is kind of counter-productive and leads to frequent disappointment. I also don't look for things that make me feel hype or good particularly, and that seems to be what the market is these days. Look at these heroes overcoming things! Look at how a tragic past doesn't stop them from showing kindness! Isn't it great? I question that kind of reality too much. I can't suspend enough disbelief to just let things happen and wrap up. It goes against many of the things I've witnessed and experienced.
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: Manimal on June 22, 2018, 08:03:04 PM
The kind of shows I like end up being made atleast once a year. This year it was A Place Further Than The Universe, the exact tone and anime I love most. It checks off nearly everything I want from anime at this point, the only downside being so-so animation.

I want grounded slice of life, with real relatable themes and actual good characters. One that has some kind of goal or narrative to it. There is a very specific kind of anime I like, and a balance of cheese and typical anime themes. K-On! being the idea of the perfect anime I look for these days, yes it does have a narrative and slow character progression. I want more anime with rock band focuses that aren't all Bang Dream, oh we gotta aim big, but more framing like how it's used in White Album 2. I like anime that exists in some kind of grounded world, it's hard to describe but I end up finding what I want sometimes. I'm very specific on what I like, and just being a slice of life show with cute girls doesn't cut it unless it has that extra level like Amanchu, Flying Witch (a show that has magic in a completely realistic grounded Earth) etc.

I also just want a college anime haha, Golden Time got that right. I want more characters my age. I also want more anime like Bakuon where school girls do things you don't expect. 
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: Lord Kesashi on June 22, 2018, 09:36:46 PM
I'd like to see something I haven't already seen.

I'd like to keep watching My Hero Academia. It's a great anime, but I've already seen it in every shounen ever.
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: Aeaphie on June 22, 2018, 09:57:16 PM
I'd like to see something I haven't already seen.

I'd like to keep watching My Hero Academia. It's a great anime, but I've already seen it in every shounen ever.

So what do you like to see?
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: Coryn on June 22, 2018, 10:11:37 PM
O mean, I'd just like to see some deeper characters for once. I don't mean #deep, but like, actually take the time to develop well rounded humans for your show, and don't just spit out another trope.

It feels like forever since I've actually had to wonder how a character was about to react in a situation. It's not that the stock personalities don't have a place, but at least make them feel like actual people with those personalities.
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: MahluaandMilk on June 22, 2018, 10:18:44 PM
Yeah, Coryn. I feel like you and I both are touchin on that. Any coincidence that we're both writers, lol?
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: Coach Fro on June 22, 2018, 10:50:36 PM
Pretty much the same sentiments as Mahlua and Coryn. Also, I wanna see more protagonist make more mistakes. Aand not just any old mistake, mistakes that can have a grave impact on the story, in a way that not only changes the direction of a plot, but the progression of a character. I wanna see more into their psyche and how setbacks can really change a hero's outlook on life and shape them into having a more realistic perspective on life, rather than just being a goody two shoes all of the time.

I also wanna see more selfishness out of a protagonist. I feel like most main characters nowadays put others over themselves a little too often. So yeah, more human characters I guess.   
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: MahluaandMilk on June 22, 2018, 10:58:30 PM
Bruh, Frono, have you seen or read Gantz? I feel like that would be up your ally with that description.
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: devola on June 23, 2018, 12:04:09 AM
@ Manimal

You are definitely singing my tune when it comes to anime. I used to be really into action stuff but lately the more whimsical shows like A Place Further Than the Universe have really captured me. I would love to have more shows like that.

Surprisingly, I also really enjoyed Yuru Camp. While it's the typical, cute girls doing cute things setup, something about Yuru Camp was just a little bit different. I'm not quite sure what it was but the overall vibe in the show felt less exploitative than other moe shows? I dunno, maybe it's something about the comfyness or just how genuine everything in the show felt that made it different.
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: Coach Fro on June 23, 2018, 12:19:40 AM
@Mahlua: No, I haven't, but I'll probably add it to my list of series that I'll check out eventually.
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: Lord Kesashi on June 23, 2018, 02:10:16 AM
I'd like to see something I haven't already seen.

I'd like to keep watching My Hero Academia. It's a great anime, but I've already seen it in every shounen ever.

So what do you like to see?

I like to see anime like My Hero Academia. I enjoyed Naruto, but it's not nearly as entertaining when you watch it a second time. Now I'm starting to like Shoujo more, maybe just because it's new to me now because I started with shounen. But I don't want to keep watching Naruto over and over again. I enjoyed it the first time. Now it's time to move on.

I'd like to see  something crazy like Shounen with a female protagonist, I guess like Soul Eater. Or some kind of Action Shoujo like Miss Koboyashi's Dragon Maid. Innovation. I want to see an anime do what others won't.
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: Suuper-san on June 23, 2018, 10:28:37 AM
For me, it would be, no more fanservice and ordinary highschool MC that becomes OP in the next few episodes. I'd rather have Death Note like anime series instead.
As much as I don't like death note I agree with that :P

I am completely sick of fanservice and badly done tsundere.
I like sci-fi but not mecha, so Steins;Gate was great for me. Something really confusing time-travel wise would be nice.

I don't mind OP characters, or characters becoming OP really quickly, but it has to be justified and feel right, not just because of "plot". there a lot of that lately.

I am also partial to the stuck-in-a-game-world genre, but again it has to be balanced otherwise suddenly everyone is OP because of "plot". Also nothing feels awesome because its in a game. Log Horizon sort of balanced that a bit because it was a game, but also wasn't, kind of feel.

Basically an anime with actual story would be nice instead of cookie cutter stamped harem animes.

Done well, fanservice, tsundere, even harem isn't bad, but lately everyone is copying everyone else and theres no originality in story or personality.
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: MahluaandMilk on June 24, 2018, 02:10:23 PM
Weirdly enough, I wouldn't mind seeing another ecchi harem anime if, again, characters were given depth and development, or at least more than one personality dimension.

Since you mentioned stuck-in-another-world genre, I'm reminded that I probably would have liked Re:Zero a heck of a lot more if it weren't basically written as "torture the cinnamon roll" except the cinnamon roll is a piece of s--- kid with toxic masculinity issues. I felt like I was supposed to have sympathy for him, but...I dunno. He always made an embarrassment of himself and others. I'm amazed his party didn't just kick him our or leave him somewhere, but I guess that would involve taking actual character motivations into account over "plot"(tm).
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: shinobispiral on July 03, 2018, 07:17:47 AM
them not saying the attack move EVERY time
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: Suuper-san on July 03, 2018, 11:59:23 AM
I felt like I was supposed to have sympathy for him
Quite a few characters in a lot of animes fall into this "sympathy character" setting, but yeah the authors sometimes struggle to actually make us feel bad for them. Sometimes I'm literally rooting for the bad guy lol

them not saying the attack move EVERY time
Actually I can sometimes deal with that. Probably depends on the anime or the attack name itself. Sometimes the name of the attack is like the chant/spell for it, like the attack spells in Bleach, which helps to make it less cringe worthy.

Something else that gets me annoyed, but sort of can't be helped is that in a group setting (ie classroom) there is always ONE AND ONLY ONE OF EVERYTHING, such as a class will always have one otaku, one library/quiet girl, one group of three deliquents, one sporty girl ,one bishounen, one transfer student etc. This is understandable as the story has to be interesting, and having character "doubles" can reduce their individual value, but it's hard to swallow when its every anime that does it, and you start to pick out the stereotypes in like 5 seconds. having one stereotype is hard to avoid, but having a whole bunch is a tad annoying.

Don't know what I would do to avoid it though, without giving everyone screen time you can't develop them in depth, and if they really are not important they won't get the time, so its necessary that we understand who they are quickly.

I suppose in that sense I prefer completely background characters (sometimes faceless) who are only there to fill up numbers, like extras in a cafe or something. Either have someone who is of good value or have someone who has no value at all.

this is what is better than bad extra characters
NO extra characters
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/938/335/c2f.jpg)
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: Crackhead Johny on February 16, 2019, 07:08:19 PM
For me, it would be, no more fanservice and ordinary highschool MC that becomes OP in the next few episodes. I'd rather have Death Note like anime series instead.
Real fan service (nudity) from the golden age? Or more modern "fan tease" (upskirt and swimsuits).
If you hate the real then I suggest therapy. That will hopefully get you past the misogyny that makes anime fans get profiled as creepy incels. Loving women is totally OK. Women are cool.

As for new? Kill the plagiarism. No more formulaic garbage.
ADA lawsuits forcing dub availability.
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: DeAngelus on February 17, 2019, 02:38:44 AM
For me, it would be, no more fanservice and ordinary highschool MC that becomes OP in the next few episodes. I'd rather have Death Note like anime series instead.
Real fan service (nudity) from the golden age? Or more modern "fan tease" (upskirt and swimsuits).
If you hate the real then I suggest therapy. That will hopefully get you past the misogyny that makes anime fans get profiled as creepy incels. Loving women is totally OK. Women are cool.

A storm is coming...

Anyways, I prefer quality over something new in anime. Something new does not mean it's immune to anything that makes stories in general bad (I'm talking about you, "Isekais" ...). If it's bad, it ain't getting my love and wallet.
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: GerardM on April 15, 2019, 09:42:42 AM
I agree. Quality trumps all. But provided that the quality is there, something new would be cool. As long as it's not trying to reinvent the whole genre.
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: Happytimedoggy on September 27, 2019, 01:10:58 AM
At this point I'd just be happy to see less "reincarnation" and "Summoned to a fantasy world" manga.
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: Coryn on September 28, 2019, 06:11:49 PM
They are awfully popular. I mean there's clearly an appetite for fantasy escapism, but not so much for the extensive world building we tebd to see in Western fantasy. Hopefully one day soon we'll see that change, because I was to see the chrazy histories the are invented for full fantasy stories.
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: Suuper-san on September 29, 2019, 08:54:16 AM
I like them so I'm not so bothered by there being so many, but they still need to have good characters and a good story line to actually be good. A genre on it's own is neither good nor bad, typically, but it's nice to have a balance.
I'd love something non-mecha sci-fi like Steins;Gate. Seriously.
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: Crackhead Johny on October 02, 2019, 06:23:05 PM
An end to harem anime in its current "I blame Tenchi" form.
When you have a teenage boy and a pile of hot women lusting after him, having him act like they all have ebola is just stupid. Mouse has the MC getting some from his 3 woman harem and seems to be very hated due to this. Or at the end of the run have the MC hook up with another hot dude from the series so it all makes sense.  Harem is ripe for a parody about now or years ago.

End terrible yuri. Another puritanical problem. I think I have seen 1 good Yuri (they were shrine maidens who had been in love with each other forever and kept dying and coming back again. Oh and their was Rin which did it well and was an excellent examination of living forever) where the girls do not all turn straight at the end. Yeah Simoun I'm talking to you. It is so weird when I last met a woman in the US who is not interested in women a very long time ago, that it is STILL completely taboo in anime. 

Shonen fighting anime. So formulaic. So tired. So "my dad can beat up your dad.". I will watch it but I will probably yell at it. What was the last good one? Shadow Skill? I'm not including the parody called One Punch Man, that one was awesome but it was parody of the genre.

In the US stop the cash grabs. So many Blu Rays coming out with 0 English track (I think I have been bitten by this 5-6 times in the last 4 months). DVDs and the ability to select English or Japanese is what made anime blow up in the US, going backwards is dumb and creates angry customers>ex-customers.
Also stop breaking seasons into 2 full price boxes. Full seasons lead to happy consumers, doubling the price.. angry consumers.

Netflix, stop ruining anime.
Amazon, label your sub only stuff!!

More Shin Chan!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: Hati on October 02, 2019, 06:59:55 PM
More wit and quirkyness.

I think the last great anime that stuck with me was Paprika  by Satori Kon and I would definitely would like to see more surrealism, where not everything makes 100% sense.

Also, not having every character being important with a tragic backstory. There's too many of those already. I think the main reason why an anime or manga will fail is because there's too many character and characters just come and drift out of existence. That's what bothers me.
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: Deniel on April 01, 2020, 09:04:04 AM
I want the gambling anime back. ;(
I have not seen more than one interesting modern anime about gambling. Kakegurui - I watched it, but Sometimes "okay", sometimes "meh". And this anime have Fanservice, what bad for good Gambling anime. (but openings good, I like style and songs)
If differently, there was a moment in JoJo when Jotaro played poker, and these 2 episodes were pretty good. Of course, I realized that this is the main character, the season will not end soon, so that he will win, but it was so cool to see what exactly he would do to win.
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: legomaestro on April 02, 2020, 08:54:37 AM
I want to see an original anime that has seasons and yet actually ends. For ages now I've felt like seasonal anime is just peacemeal adaptation of a longer running lihgt novel or series and gaaah it never ends. Attack on Titan escapes my dislike because honestly the adaptation is better to go through than reading the manga, but it irks me sometimes otherwise
Title: Re: What do you want to see something new in anime?
Post by: Suuper-san on April 15, 2020, 01:15:30 PM
Yeah I'm all for long animes/mangas that end. I like to get into a long series but when the end isn't in sight it can make you wonder if the author is milking it.