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Title: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on April 15, 2018, 08:15:45 AM
Synopsis: Two swordsmen travel an apocalyptic wasteland in hopes of creating a safe haven for any survivors they find. Things happen.

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Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: Action Animation on April 15, 2018, 10:03:18 AM
So proud of you lego, you have come such a long way not only has your art improved but also your skills as a storyteller. So is this post juat to display your work or are you looking for a critique in either art or story?
-Action
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on April 15, 2018, 11:15:52 AM
Thanks a lot Action. Critique on art in terms of whether some panels are readeable or not. And if it's hard to guess what the story is about I'd like to know that too.

Otherwise believe you me, I know, I know, I know. Anatomy, Perspective, Detail, Shading, Forms, Consistency e.t.c haha.

Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: The SlamJam on April 17, 2018, 08:32:07 AM
First post on April 15th and there's already 5 chapters :O

How long did this take you? I'll be reading the next 4 chapters on my next break, enjoyed the first chapter! I really loved the building shot birds eye then the zombie surrounding them birds eye!

My one wish is for you to make these cleaner with toning and inking :(. Nevertheless great job!
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on April 17, 2018, 12:02:10 PM
Oh no no no I started on the 14th of December!

But my general rate is 1 hour per page. At 4 pages a day I can have a complete chapter in a week also including any breaks /general days of laziness. It was pretty hard to find a flow, and the time fluctuates a lot if I want to change something or focus on something else but I feel I'm ready to work on this full time and have it reach 30 chapters. Penance, my other work, that's suffered even more quality drops because I still haven't figured everything out has been going on longer.

All I know for sure is that storyboards save lives.


Gaaaah the toning and inking won't improve for some ages I'm afraid. Nevertheless, domo arigatou Mr. Roboto
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on April 19, 2018, 09:52:24 PM
Updated with chapter 6

Well that was a crazy three days. Lots of things suddenly came up to distract me but strangely it just pissed me off into getting another chapter done after a storyboard rush. Here are the storyboards.

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Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: Coryn on April 19, 2018, 10:29:38 PM
I like to imagine them all moving really fast and with helium voices.

So at what rate is it taking you to go from storyboard to finished page?
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on April 20, 2018, 05:28:22 AM
Gaaah no dooon't! I wanted them to have badass voices.

Is the flow too fast though?


Rate seems to be 2 days for the storyboard (because of how hard it is to think up things from scratch) and 3 days for the complete chapter. (4 pages a day + a final push and I have 15 pages done)

I need to figure out more contrast making techniques though. Pages are way too white haha.
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: Coryn on April 20, 2018, 07:40:52 AM
Dude your images are too small to read comfortably.i have no idea what's going on, let alone if the flow is good. I'll wait for the finished product for that. No sense putting the cart before the horse.
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on April 20, 2018, 10:24:11 AM
Nani!? No the finished product is already up there Chapter 6 hahaha. I just posted the storyboards for the updated chapter alongside them.

Lel my legoisms are becoming too much at this point. I've been making a ridiculous amount of typos too. What is happenign!? (That typo was on purpose.)
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: Coryn on April 20, 2018, 01:59:43 PM
(nobody respects the scroll anymore)

Well, I could definitely follow it better than the last chapter. Probably helps that you didn't completely fill the scene with people. There was definitely some character overload last time. But I liked it. You could have maybe devoted a little more time to the old dude's one winged angel transformation. As is, it's like he just kinda pops into it, comical sound effect and all.

Oh, and as the meme goes: "stupid idiot dies from two gunshot wounds". Bullet cutting is cool, but still completely impractical.
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: TEA on April 21, 2018, 02:24:01 AM
Woah this is a really cool series. Looking forward to more from this!
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on April 22, 2018, 11:31:27 PM
Thankee Tea!

@Coryn I need to try thinking double page or something at this point. It does get quite bad, but I can't help but need to show I haven't forgotten anyone.



I did a mad weekend rush and it seems I can nail out a chapter in 3 days indeed... When I push myself. Which I shall not make a habit of. So damn sleep deprived right now, but so damn happy I did it.

Topic post updated with Chapter 7!

Sigh... Only 23 chapters to go.
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on April 27, 2018, 08:00:35 AM
Updated topic post with chapter 8.


And here is the storyboard for said chapter.

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Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: KeanFox on April 27, 2018, 01:28:24 PM
?Was that a vagabond manga reference? When the bird thing called them that.
I know its a word but hearing it can't help but think of that other manga about swordsmen
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on April 28, 2018, 03:05:10 PM
Nope, it just seemed a better word than bandits or something. But I did think of the manga after the fact.
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on May 03, 2018, 08:19:58 AM
Updated with Chapter 9
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: Coryn on May 03, 2018, 01:02:40 PM
I do like the way you drew Herlitz, it makes him very ethereal feeling.

And y'know, I think Mendez having his face all bandaged up is a more interesting character design, but you do you. Does make me wonder why it's covered if he's fine beneath though.
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on May 03, 2018, 08:25:20 PM
Totally inspired by the game Furi. He's actually a character with an important role in other stories of mine, so I'm glad he was interesting.

You know it's funny that you mention that. There are some subtle things that you just can't teach and I was driving myself crazy about whether I should restore Mendez's arm so quickly or not. Seems like a simple thing, right? Nope. If lopped off arms are so easily restored then it affects the entire canon of the story. What are the rules, what are the limits? I curb stomp Naruto for Edo Tensei and Bleach for its Quincies but now I see how easy it is to just say 'meh, this is how it works' without considering the repurcussions. I have some rules in my head already of how far I can go with anything, but it's pretty funny. And I totally missed some crucial character design rule on that front, haha.

Er... As for the canonical reason why he's healed so fast see Chapter 4. In the words of his own sister 'Healthy as a god and dumb as a dog.' Even for a swordsman, he heals pretty fast.

I'm curious, did you understand what happened with the bridge scene? Art is wonky but even if it is I need the reader to know what's going on.
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: Coryn on May 03, 2018, 08:39:49 PM
I got it. The panels leading up to it helped out. Felt like a nice slow moment. Which I think are the more well done moments in your style, if we're being brutally honest. You know that I know that you love your big action scenes, but I think you'd be better served by simplifying them some and slowing the pace.
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on May 13, 2018, 05:32:36 AM
Updated with chapter 10
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: Coryn on May 13, 2018, 09:08:48 AM
Nice action this chapter. Although the panel where he catches the foot is a little confusing. You gotta be real badass to rip off your own arm though.

Honestly, I feel a little overwhelmed with how many names and characters there are at this point, especially because they aren't all super recognizable at a glance. This shows especially at the end with the panel of a bunch of characters right next to each other. Going across I really don't know who is who? Not enough contrast in design at your detail level I guess. This is more of a general critique though. I'm not suggesting making huge changes now.
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on May 20, 2018, 09:19:00 PM
And a fool, but yeaup the hand went bye bye.

Yeah contrast is a big problem. Going to try more grayscale next time, but yeah I just need to get the chapters done at this point methinks. The two black bikers are new characters. Wings Girl is named Evanascence, Black Hair Mendez, Eyepatch Jhax, Short goggles dude is called Toad.

Geh. I'll make a character roster some time some when.


Updated with Chapter 11.

Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: Coryn on May 20, 2018, 10:46:00 PM
Neat. I like the composition of that first page a lot. Very Kubo-esk to steal a whole page just for a couple of figures. Sad the level headed one got slashed though. He seemed more interesting than Ms. MurderRampage over there.
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: MahluaandMilk on May 20, 2018, 11:14:27 PM
I would just like to add that your linework, even with general hatching and such, has become much cleaner and more confident lately. I'm not sure if I had pointed it out before in your general art thread, but this last chapter really shows it. Nothing looked "sketched" or overly messy. It's a good look on you.

Also, hard agree. Protecting the innocent isn't heroic; it's common sense.
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on May 22, 2018, 06:25:11 AM
Having a strong forehead helps too.

Domo arigatou, but I actually loathe straight linework hahaha. But it's unfortunately more efficient in making pages. I just feel so much more freedom being able to sketch around, and I like the look. This image in particular is a recent inspiration https://legomaestro.deviantart.com/art/MSPaint-is-fun-200869058

Just love that look. Gaaah no variation in like work but still manages to show some contrast.

@ Coryn yeh I've been checking out the only volume of Bleach I have in my shelf for some help. Just figured out now that action scenes have slanted panels and the like so I'm glad it worked out. It's frustrating as hell not to have that epic look that Kubo does though.

Yeah, It's a true pity about the scientist dude. He has a back story of sorts and everything too. This confrontation was supposed to last longer than this, but Mendez flipped out more than I thought he would and hasn't been in a fighting mood.


Did I mention I hate backgrounds?
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on May 27, 2018, 12:26:02 PM
Updated with chapter 12.


Flow is a serious problem for me. I guess I need to make more pages or something. Meh. For now, just gotta focus on that 30 chapter mark. I'll make a full breakdown of notes to tear holes into everything. Just glad I got this done. Now come along next week. Come along next procrastination session, come along chapter 13, I hope. Where is the idea genie when you need one?
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: Coryn on May 27, 2018, 03:04:41 PM
I'm suspecting a certain someone might not actually be fully dead.

Neat place to hang around and talk about forging swords. Any particular inspiration? you
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: Adoss on May 28, 2018, 07:37:37 AM
Pretty solid storytelling, not hating on the art but would you ever consider getting someone to redraw it for you? Like a Once Punch Man sorta thing
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on May 28, 2018, 10:08:15 AM
Haha that's actually the hope eventually. I jst want to know that i'm reliable enough to churn chapters whenever I need to so that they become second nature to me.  Thanks Adoss


@Coryn I was inspired by a thumbnail on pinterest and some random frame Moebius did for some random comic. It's pretty cool how he makes super cities with really round shapes and the like and manages to portray scale on flat landscapes. Dude's a beast.

The room itself just came into mind. I screwed up what I had in mind but it's a sunken dias sort of place with uneven ring platforms.

Also people die when they are killed in my story haha. But I definitely need to improve pacing and mood to make stuff like that convincing.
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: TEA on May 28, 2018, 12:08:02 PM
I think it's pretty great Lego, it's very impressive. Looking forward to more chapters. I want to make some fanart for this series!
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on May 28, 2018, 12:42:01 PM
Haha that'd be awesome TEA, and thanks!
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on June 06, 2018, 06:26:00 AM
Updated with Chapter 13

I'll jump to Digital Dragons for the next update, but I'm starting to miss working on Penance. I'm almost at the finish line with that one, so I might as well bring it closer to the end and take the opportunity to experiment a little. The contrast issue is still bugging me-
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: Coryn on June 06, 2018, 10:42:42 PM
Huh, well I can't saw I entirely know what's going on here anymore (damn my lack of understanding who all these people are). The brain extraction thing was neat though. Can't say I'll miss her.
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on June 07, 2018, 03:18:08 PM
I savoured drawing that, really.

Yikes. My contrast and mish mash of characters strikes again. There's no salvaging it at this point. I've just got to file it away for future reference.
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: MahluaandMilk on June 07, 2018, 04:17:59 PM
I have to agree. Character sheets might be helpful
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: Coach Fro on June 12, 2018, 09:08:24 AM
Finally managed to catch up on this...

The story is pretty interesting. I think panels are easy to read for the most part, but your backgrounds are hit and miss on occasion. Sometimes it's a little hard to tell where the characters are in the scene, but it's not that bad I feel.

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And man my boy Mendez. His death was so dry it was actually kind of shocking. I literally thought he was fine until I had to go back and read those panels again. I'm not sure how I felt about his death. On one hand, it gives you that sense that no one is safe, which serves a story like this well, but at the same time I feel the moment didn't feel very impacting because of how it happened. A pacing issue I guess?

Overall, loving the story so far. You're really good with these dystopian type stories man. Keep at it! 
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on June 12, 2018, 06:38:32 PM
Contrast, contrast man

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I straight up messed up that death scene yeah. They can be done properly even if they're short ala Attack on Titan but I'm really bad at long form manga narratives. Still learning haha

Um are you able to tell which characters are which? Like what happened in the latest chapter for example?

@Mahlua well theres a time-skipish moment so I might as well stick one in there.
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: Coach Fro on June 14, 2018, 09:56:28 AM
Yeah no problem with distinguishing characters from one another. Just can’t remember their names for the life of me though. Then again I’m pretty bad names in general, so...
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: suupertramp on July 10, 2018, 09:58:24 AM
weird, I haven't posted yet on this :/

very nice so far, especially your backgrounds overall. I agree with Fro that I can't remember names, but that is also probably my fault.
the story is also nice and unpredictable, but not mad unpredictable, just pleasantly unpredictable :P
I love your varied character designs, and the crowd shot in the second last panel of ch13 is just an example of how you make varied characters so well.

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I too, did a double take on the death scene

one thing that I didnt like, was when hes talking to his dead sister (ch8/9?), I assume that was just his imagination or memory of her, and not an actual ghost that only he can see? if so, that I think it was much better if when asked "who are you taking to", he replied "noone" only, rather than adding "just my dead sister", as that implies an actual ghost, and i think its a better read that way, and sounds a little less creepy. (although he did look like he was wondering whether to answer?)

also I didnt like the font for the last chapter only, it was a lot harder to read. I'm still looking for a font that I like for my manga so I can't make a recommendation

I'm wondering whether a "to be continued" is necessary after every chapter?
I see it on and off in different mangas, and wondered if there was a reason you put it in, or just because it felt like it should be there? I suppose it gives the chapter an end feel without it actually being an end of a story?

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so who's the main character now?
I was pretty sure it was the guy who died?

keep it up, I await the next chapter(s) :P
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: legomaestro on July 12, 2018, 07:40:33 AM
Wow a review from suuper! Goodstuff. Thanks suuper. I'll be returning to this after I finish another one-shot I've been letting rot for way too long.

The TBC thing is just more a habit than anything, and I was originally updating the story in messenger chat so it was necessary to add a stop off point. I was doing this weekly after all so I had no idea when the next chapter would come along.

I thought the font looked good! Darn it. I'm looking for something like Anime ABC but... Better? There's a font that really works. Tell me if you find anything.

I think he's hallucinating her, and has been doing it so long it doesn't bother him that much anymore. It's why he talks to himself so much e.g at the beginning when you first see him.

I still need to find a way to make really interesting characters like Oda, but I'm glad that aspect is working out a little. I really do need to figure out this name thing though.

@Frono sorry for the late reply. I assumed I'd have a new chapter out by the time I got around to it, but thanks for reading man!
Title: Re: Swords Like Gods
Post by: suupertramp on July 15, 2018, 09:54:06 AM
ahhh fair enough if you update by pages not by chapters the TBC would make more sence. I dont think it matters really. Ive noticed that in mangas with multiple mangas, like shounen jump, there is usually a "chapter XX END" message on each one, probably just to prevent confusion, but in the manga novels they dont pop up very much, so as you say its probably context sensitive.

the font wasnt baaaaaad, but just hard to read. it felt a bit too sharp and runic, especially the Y. the upslant was also quite annoying for me. I used THIS (https://www.deviantart.com/888toto/art/FREE-COMIC-and-MANGA-FONTS-261494973) for my Overdrive manga, but I wasn't 100% happy with it