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Title: My Manga Idea
Post by: MrThirtyTwo on December 31, 2014, 07:06:15 PM
OK so this idea i have is completed in my head. So there is a boy named Andrew who lives in a small town with 3000 people inside (dont have name for town). He is a senior in highschool (school goes from kindergarden to 12th grade) and has a sister who is in 7th grade. everyday he goes to school with his friends. as days go by he start passing out and dreams of his town up in flames and people slain all over (hope thats not to graffic). after three days of haveing these dreams , his class gets a transfer student (who is and alien sent to protect him). she never says anything to anyone but andrew and asks that she be sitted next to andrew. the next day his town becomes a war zone between 2 alien factions and he is the key to saving his planet (the new student tells him this). Blah that was alot of typeing.

So what do you think?
Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: MK on December 31, 2014, 07:26:08 PM
I can kind of see it happening but you are going to show 3 days of the dreams (seems repetitive and makes the reader not as interested) maybe have the manga start off on the 3rd day when he has the dreams.  Then when he wakes up you can have him say "what are with these dreams I been having these past few days".  Also, how does the sister relate to this? Does she tease him about this new girl or is she a key factor in the story, etc.  You should also state why he is being protected instead of other people (not in the chapter but to explain the story to people).  I see some potential to this story but it needs more information
Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: MrThirtyTwo on December 31, 2014, 07:48:22 PM
theres definetly more to this i was just posted some of the plot i think im very new when it comes to writing and i have many flaws. its hard to explain for me in typeing i wish i can explain this with speaking rather typeing. i like the idea of starting it after the 3rd day of dreaming also my prolog should it be the dream he is haveing? and the sister she ties in later she becomes a very powerful combat medic that helps her brother. but thats further down the story. the reason why he is the only person being protect in that town is because theres something about the people who have these dreams, they can use the aliens technology. anyone who has these dreams can. but andrew is the first pirson in the alien history who has the strongest ability to wield their tech. thats why he is protected. there r others who can (humans and otrher lifeforms) he just the strongest. of the 9 alien factions 7 wish to kill these power wielders, the other 2 wish to protect them and the human race. and the more dreams they have the stronger ability is, humans nor the aliens understand why can have this ability, they just do. Which is why his sister becomes important, she figures out why thy can while becoming a combat medic.
Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: MK on January 01, 2015, 01:04:37 AM
One of the things you can do is simply state he has a little sister and later introduce her in the story.  Another way is to have her in the story the entire time so like during lunch they meet up and/or when he gets home (maybe walk home together).  Try typing up the first chapter and see how it is
Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: MrThirtyTwo on January 01, 2015, 01:25:58 AM
in the beginning of te manga you see her abit but then after a little why you dont see her much. then she comes back later on with a bigger rule.
Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: MrThirtyTwo on January 01, 2015, 04:55:21 PM
 :dance: and so I'm am now excited since I've received assistance from this forum to create a manga. i shall get some work done and post it on here so you can all see and say if anything needs to be fixed or changed. Thank you all  :D
Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: Von on January 01, 2015, 07:51:17 PM
Hey I like your story very weird but original  :hmm: . You could replace your àlien by something as a god or godness. If you do that you could make thé main character related to divine. This way you could also make thé second character protecting your main character teach him use is own power hidden in himself. It ia just an idea lile that.
Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: Vacant on January 01, 2015, 08:38:03 PM
Hey there dude, so had a quick read through what you've got down so far and thought I'd try to assist. Not much to go off, but thats understandable with it just being a concept, so I'll kinda just rattle off some questions and thoughts :D

First off since its not stated or immediately obvious in the story itself, what kind of Genre and tone will this be? I'm envisioning a Shonen/action type story, with some hints of School style comedy.

I see kenshin asked the same question I thought, why does he need protecting and what makes him special? So due to his dreams/premonitions, he can use the Alien tech. But as for these aliens, why are they coming to Earth? Is there a specific reason, is the war literally just about killing/saving the MC, or are they just sorta swept up in it? 

In regards to the war, what are you going to do? Massive scale battles of two armies or specialised individuals being sent to fight?

Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: MrThirtyTwo on January 01, 2015, 08:55:17 PM
thats some good advice, and the genre would more and likely be sci-fi, action, and romance. maybe even more just not sure yet.
Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: MrThirtyTwo on January 04, 2015, 01:06:07 AM
(http://www.mediafire.com/view/syq2pyj9qfd90bp/IMG_20150101_205420502%20-%20Copy.jpg)(http://www.mediafire.com/view/n66somnqi1ask7b/IMG_20150101_205310975.jpg). I think i posted these pictures correctly. Im not sure if im doing this correctly, but if they are can some tell me how those turned out for my first 2 pages of my manga.
Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: MrThirtyTwo on January 04, 2015, 01:08:38 AM
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/fe49/n66somnqi1ask7bzg.jpg did this work?
Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: MrThirtyTwo on January 04, 2015, 01:10:51 AM
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/22ce/syq2pyj9qfd90bpzg.jpg page 2 of manga. sorry it took 2 posts to figure out how to post pics of first 2 pages. please tell me how i did for trying to make manga my first time.
Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: MK on January 04, 2015, 01:15:56 AM
Problem is that the view is so weird.  I think you should let the artist choose the perspective or study a little bit yourself.  Especially the first page should look different
Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: MrThirtyTwo on January 04, 2015, 01:36:52 AM
to be honest i really dont know what im doing. thats why im still learning. and what do you mean by the view?
Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: darlingGrim on January 04, 2015, 02:06:45 AM
I looked at your pages. It's normally a good idea to leave full page panels for really important events.
I hope you don't mind, but I tried to break it up roughly. It's really scribbly but hopefully you can tell what's going on.
Spoiler
(http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2015/003/8/7/gift1_by_darlinggrim-d8cjabl.png)
(http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2015/003/7/f/gift2_by_darlinggrim-d8cjacm.png)

It's a good start though. You have to think about what you want the reader to see as well as what the character sees.
By showing some of the surrounding area burning you kind of emphasis the destruction.

*Also sorry, didn't mean to make the images so big.
Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: MrThirtyTwo on January 04, 2015, 02:27:32 AM
i like that alot, and you are so much better than me wow. what made you think to make it like that?
Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: MK on January 04, 2015, 02:56:30 AM
http://drawsketch.about.com/od/perspectivetechdrawing/tp/perspectiveindex.htm (http://drawsketch.about.com/od/perspectivetechdrawing/tp/perspectiveindex.htm) basically it changes how you see buildings and backgrounds.  The perspective is important because how/where the camera is positioned
Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: darlingGrim on January 04, 2015, 03:46:02 AM
Matsui Kenshin is right (as usual). Perspective and camera are important to consider when thinking about how to show your scene.

I chose to organize the pages based on your original layout. I knew you wanted to have Andrew floating above the town, but the angle you chose originally wasn't enough. Plus it's always a good idea to show the characters face (unless you plan on doing a reveal later). So the first think was to show the face, but if I do that there has to be a transition to the big picture. Which is the burning city. So having a close up of the eyes seemed like the best solution. And then you move to an over the shoulder shot looking down on the destruction.

This way you establish the main character and get a good look at the city.

Second page you planned was way to close to the original. It would work if they were 2 panels on the same page, but as two separate pages it's a stretch. I'm sure it could work but the artist doing the background would probably hate you (lol). So you show a single shot of the main character closer to the ground (but still obviously floating by use of shadow on the ground). Then some close up shots of the destruction to give the reader a sense of location and what's happening. It also helps create a sense of time passing (which is nice). Then another over the shoulder shot, honestly the angle shouldn't be that sharply looking down. So angle the 'camera' up to show a bit more of the city in the background.

Just try to break up the event and show it from different angles (while still progressing the story). Try not to think of it just in terms of the characters but also the surroundings.
Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: MK on January 04, 2015, 04:45:38 AM
Well I kind of study manga alot, I have read tons of sites/books/etc on manga, I just can't put my words into drawings easily...  Also unlike probably every reader, I would actually zoom up and study how mangakas draw certain scenes.  Lets just say Tokyo Ghoul: Re makes me do it the most (really good job on the background, looks extremely realistic)
Title: Re: My Manga Idea
Post by: MrThirtyTwo on January 04, 2015, 12:10:42 PM
ya that was alot of advice, i like that ill be putting that to good use. Thank you, and i do love anime and manga. i've watched anime more than i've read manga though. anyways when it comes to writing manga im a total noob haha. im thinking of writing out my story in words that way when ever i find an artist ill let them do the fun part. That does mean ill give up on the pictures, i will still do it to get my skill better. ill post more pages when i actually finish them to see if they are good or not (lols). also do you mind if i use those pics, they were good.