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Title: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 03, 2014, 02:35:27 PM
So, yeah, my digital art abilities aren't the best in the world, but I can drop this in here for the critiques.
My character twin--Chikage.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10508402_283154585197477_979804236_n.jpg?oh=1b583efd594e2f08a5da5ed5485fb671&oe=53B77B8A&__gda__=1404554007_3cf027cd8cc8b6c4484a63c7dda6221c)
lol what are bootys even--
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: WhiteCrow on July 03, 2014, 03:10:01 PM
Nice work. Coloring and shading are nice, but yeah... no semblance of a butt lol
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 03, 2014, 03:22:25 PM
Thank ye :D I might have to look up some anatomy references for that later. (Everybody's least favourite subject, amirite?)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Lumaria on July 03, 2014, 03:33:14 PM
if you use a model, you would be able to get the length of the legs right. it looks like the character has no joints in his lower half.

i think its hard to draw a detailed buttocks with the type and size of pants you gave him/her.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on July 03, 2014, 03:43:52 PM
Haha, yeah anatomy can be a pain in the yeah. References are your friend, even ones from manga. Nice work
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 03, 2014, 03:54:02 PM
~Noodle legs~ (because what is perspective walking?)
But, yeah, seriously. I guess that's what I get for drawing on a sudden post-midnight muse. If I had a scanner, digital art would probably be a little easier for me since I tend to be able to control outlines better on pen and paper.
As far as references go, as long as I don't use xxxHolic, I think I'll be all right xD
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: everlastin01 on July 03, 2014, 05:36:59 PM
You also need to post your traditional art sis.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 03, 2014, 05:52:57 PM
What do you want me to do, upload from my webcam?  :frown:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: everlastin01 on July 03, 2014, 05:58:39 PM
Yeah, take a picture of them
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 03, 2014, 06:09:41 PM
Ugh, fine..here are a few.
Xylo and Kota being cuties
(http://i.imgur.com/v0TFy5x.jpg)
Kasha and Erika being cuties
(http://i.imgur.com/Fes0sa2.jpg)
And a thing I did for a roleplay bud on facebook with his OCs
(http://i.imgur.com/QibLinX.jpg)

Ugh, I hate webcams..I can't get the colours or the paper to look right.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Rojas on July 03, 2014, 06:31:06 PM
Recent drawings looking good, but the last one is looking rather stiff. Keep up the good work and be sure to practice fluid motion of characters.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 03, 2014, 06:45:55 PM
Yeah, perspective and fluidity always give me hell. It doesn't help that I only have skin tone Copics and the rest are Faber-Castell shades of grey and (ugh, kill me) Crayola for the rest. As far as coloured pencils go, however, I do have a 48 pack of prismacolour. I often blend the medias of ink, marker, and coloured pencil. Lately, though, it's been a lot of just marker.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Rojas on July 03, 2014, 06:52:09 PM
Keep working on the basics and you'll improve. ;D Don't stop believing in yourself. A great artist can make art out of any tool!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 03, 2014, 07:02:18 PM
Thank ye. I'll post nice updates once I find something nice to update with xD
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on July 04, 2014, 01:30:12 AM
Nice work. Traditional colouring has always been beyond me. First one is my favourite. Good stuff.

So you RP too huh. Which RP is this if I may ask?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: everlastin01 on July 04, 2014, 02:26:46 AM
So you RP too huh. Which RP is this if I may ask?

Facebook RP XD
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 04, 2014, 01:39:00 PM
So you RP too huh. Which RP is this if I may ask?

Facebook RP XD
As she says.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on July 04, 2014, 02:01:40 PM
Haha never heard of RPing on FB. Interesting.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on September 01, 2014, 05:37:35 PM
In my mini-hiatus over the summer I've actually gotten myself obsessed with digital art and homestuck, and the two have blended together very often #sorrynotsorry so here's some updates on my art

My trOllC losers:
(http://i.imgur.com/PW4sdWF.png)
an AraSol fanart I did for my friend's birthday:
(http://i.imgur.com/lQe3wMY.png)
one of my losers again:
(http://i.imgur.com/piZblk5.png)
And a WIP lineless art of Sober Gamzee for another friend of mine.
(http://i.imgur.com/WV7IU96.png)

Really, some of these should go under fanart, I'm sure, but hey I already have an artdump thread, so I figured "meh, why not?" That aside, I think I might have a knack for lineless art. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: everlastin01 on October 08, 2014, 02:44:27 PM
I can't see the last two pictues :notunderstand:
can't really get the full effect of your babies XD
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on October 10, 2014, 09:22:33 PM
I can't see the last two pictues :notunderstand:
can't really get the full effect of your babies XD
That's odd..

Anyway if I got off my lazy butt and actually got around to updating this with some of my other new work that'd be great.. :glare: (Presently using my school computer so I don't have anything saved from my work computer on here.)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on November 06, 2014, 08:05:55 PM
UPD8!!!!!!!!
One of my friends suggested that I draw one of my characters in another timeline, so I drew the queen I mentioned somewhere in my Anim thread in modern time..I hecked up with finding a color for her glove and this was just a doodle, so..whatevs.
(warning: middle finger)
(http://i.imgur.com/DFUtp5B.png)
Other shiznitsky I've been working doodling:
a smooch with the wrong outline brush
(http://i57.tinypic.com/9pm9v5.png)
and my OC reacting to two of my girlfriend's OCs (tw: rude language)
(http://i.imgur.com/2kKH77M.png)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Asami14L on November 13, 2014, 01:41:01 PM
I've seen your artworks..your artworks are great, I like the coloring too...you have a potential keep practice ><
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on November 13, 2014, 03:23:31 PM
Thanks, Shin Yuu. I'll certainly keep practicing until I can't move my hands anymore. Lifelong learning ftw~
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on November 14, 2014, 04:10:56 PM
Hey, look, some old stuff I forgot to upload(drawn before even my other update lol) :

(http://i.imgur.com/YHXZfCd.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/QVHFLvj.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/WfKFiUB.png)

yeah lame stuff mostly
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Mr.Hoovesandhorns on November 14, 2014, 04:59:55 PM
These Doodles..just Yass..Sylvia and Vinny have to be my Favorites though..Which is probably because they're my brain babies.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on November 14, 2014, 05:02:37 PM
Or because they're hecka cutes? (Not to mention super fun to draw, although I'll be a little more careful about Vinny's skin tone next time.)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on November 15, 2014, 04:48:53 PM
*Realizes that she hasn't posted any traditional art in a while*

*posts this to compensate even though the webcam didn't pick up the tints and shades as much as I'd like*

(http://i.imgur.com/6Gcqiwt.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: GingerStark on November 15, 2014, 04:56:58 PM
Dat jewellery though  :clapping:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on November 15, 2014, 05:02:44 PM
tbh I just like drawing his hair XD
But yeah, his bling came out alight too, and the hands don't look atrocious for once. :dance:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: FreezingCicada on November 15, 2014, 05:23:11 PM
Spoiler
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/98/70/d2/9870d22dbbd143fdab515785b2f75994.jpg)
Theres a good reference for hands

Also I like drawing muscles just as much as the next person. But you have to keep in mind the anatomy too.
All in all there isnt much depth to draw me in.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on November 15, 2014, 05:30:16 PM
How would I go about adding depth? I mean, for future reference. I did that colored pencil ages (like two months) ago, so I'd need to doodle something else to get up to speed on that.
Thanks for the hand reference, by the way. I'll put that to good use.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: FreezingCicada on November 15, 2014, 05:37:46 PM
The way I add depth is by contrast and cross hatching.
Now you cant really do that unless you have understanding of anatomy that comes from just practice.
Cause your just gonna get frustrated adding detail that looks off.
But what I use as an anatomy reference
http://skatingiran.com/download11.pdf

I have a physical copy I bought off amazon for 15 dollars-ish.
Which is a deal imo, when art focused books are 50+. I also use it build a weight training program for myself so I could get a better appreciation of anatomy too.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on November 15, 2014, 05:45:04 PM
Ooh, super thanks. I've been looking for a good anatomy reference for a while.
Anyway over the past few minutes after posting Sefeus I tried drawing Alexma and her scythe, but it just came out looking super awkward because I'm attempting perspective-ish art again. I get the feeling I should just scrap this sketch and try again like her spine is out of alignment with her hips or something..help?
(http://i.imgur.com/DwC5JvN.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on November 15, 2014, 07:38:11 PM
Ugh, my art muse has apparently decided to kick me in the groin tonight. Here's another sketch/pencil lineart:
(http://i.imgur.com/1rCJR7Z.jpg)
Yes that is an SS Uniform..why? I don't really know..I just think they look stylish for military.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on November 23, 2014, 01:57:05 PM
For the fun of it, I decided to re-draw Aranea Serket's talksprite from homestuck.
Reference: (https://lh4.ggpht.com/KQRp-Byy9rJ1bYGHghaasqXNK4RtXzcFAfyvnutYMnabUugybxxiJr8TR_sUsIc06uE=w300)
So yeah, my version:
(http://i.imgur.com/2GigDVR.png)
Horns look like crap, but shrug.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Mr.Hoovesandhorns on November 24, 2014, 07:49:48 AM
The horns look fine dear , heck this is a great drawing!  :doublethumbs:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on November 24, 2014, 07:52:35 AM
(Is surprised you didn't go for the Deer pun)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on November 28, 2014, 05:12:58 PM
So I made a talksprite for one of my OCs using Aranea as a base..

(http://i.imgur.com/mGi3C39.png)

She looks so grumpy and I love it.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 02, 2014, 01:03:46 PM
Steampunk roleplay+classroom doodles.
Lol yeah I need to try paying attention in Chemistry, but I'm actually kind of proud of this one..

(http://i.imgur.com/j6YIkKM.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Dr.Striker on December 02, 2014, 04:23:02 PM
I like the design and all but the lines seem too thick. Also in those last 3 drawings, must be the pencil you are using. You may need to sharpen it more and take care of drawing thin delicate lineart, which is more common in manga.

You barely leave any space to place the features in the face with those ample lines and it looks way too sketchy like so, I can barely see the face.

The gun and the googles look great in my opinion and like the position of the legs of the character. It's quite creative actually, I like it more than the others.

Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 02, 2014, 04:37:38 PM
considering I was using one of these:
(https://img0.etsystatic.com/027/0/6961004/il_340x270.530566140_kksq.jpg)
with most of the tips being blunt-ish, I can figure why the lines weren't going the way I wanted them too.

It was on a whole piece of notebook paper and I was really trying to get out the clothing design rather than the face since it was for an AU roleplay and it's the character I rp. I wasn't giving it that much attention, which looking back now, I wish I had; She would've been really pretty.

Honestly I was really worried about the legs because they look really..off..to me. Ooh, and the gun gave me a bit of a hard time even with the references I was looking at. I agree that it looks the best, probably due to it taking me the longest to figure out. I usually don't draw weapons, so I surprised myself on that one.

I should probably try doing more stuff like this. It was as fun as it was challenging.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Alkyun on December 02, 2014, 06:54:01 PM
Wow they still make those pencils! I think I have one of those some where, though its multicolored :3

It's a very detailed design though something seems off about the legs,  I'm not quite sure whats bugging me about it though, it might be the the left leg (the bent one), other then that I like it!

Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 02, 2014, 07:55:55 PM
Yeah I'll just settle with not trying to draw legs at that angle again lol I think the hip is disconnected or something up in there.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Alkyun on December 02, 2014, 08:40:18 PM
Well give it another shot when you feel more confident about it! Its actually a difficult angle/pose to draw ( I'm trying right now and I can't seem to get it right either....)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 12, 2014, 09:36:41 AM
Meh, ignore how terrible the atrocity in the margin is I know it's like super thin and uncool but yes I did another page sketch design of a character.
(http://i.imgur.com/u6L2fTt.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Austadophilus on December 12, 2014, 09:37:25 AM
Sweet tattoo, man! :D

Hehehe, looks like you use your notebook to as much good use as I do during class. :D
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 12, 2014, 09:39:46 AM
Yeh, character inspired. See hair flipping huge 8itch in my signature for more details.

Also strange how I don't usually do tattoo art. Maybe I should explore that a little?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Austadophilus on December 12, 2014, 09:44:50 AM
Go for it. I've always wanted to learn to design tattoos.

Only one problem, mate, can't see your sig. There's nothing there.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 12, 2014, 09:49:18 AM
probably because the only way I can see it is to change the tumblr url to https instead of http.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 13, 2016, 08:20:41 PM
It's been quite a while since I've posted here. Luckily I have been doing quite a bit of drawing, but mostly multiple character designs per page. These characters were kind of an outline idea, and are very subject to change when I actually get around to figuring out where to put them in my storyline, but here's a quick album. Sadly, my scanner doesn't like my laptop very much so the quality is rather poor due to it coming from my phone camera instead. That aside, shwoop.

(http://i.imgur.com/6I0nJWx.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/HpCwkZz.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/3BOsl98.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/HKphsL5.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 18, 2016, 05:57:46 AM
Just for the lolsies I thought I'd try my hand at sketching out a bit of a comic idea doodle back from when my friends and I had a self-insert RP in the X-Men universe (in which I was a poor sexually frustrated little nugget over Emma Frost) and here's how that turned out for me.

(http://i.imgur.com/Fe3wi8I.jpg)

I grant that some of Emma's last speech bubble was cut out, and that my camera quality is a giant cowpattie. The words that got cut off there were "Still", "that", and "but".

Other than that, I know that arm in perspective in the last panel looks like garbage, but for drawing while like quarter asleep at five in the morning, eh :noidea: I'm not too upset.

I may or may not follow this up eventually with the next page. Maybe. Probably. :sure:

Follow-up page 2:

(http://i.imgur.com/SjlEHu8.jpg)

Again, I apologize for the absolutely terrible camera quality. Makes it more than just a little hard to read.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 19, 2016, 02:05:19 AM
Another update: my friend and I both made vampire characters for no apparent reason (well, I had a reason for mine, but let's not talk about that place here) and we wound up shipping them.

The sandy blonde is my friend's character, Hilda, and the super blonde one in the corset is mine, named Kalonice, after another character I already had named Kalonice, just with a different last name.

(http://i.imgur.com/TmYYUzo.jpg)

You could say Kalonice likes blood a little more than your typical vampire if you know what I mean.
(Things I see wrong: that wrist, the jutting shoulder, Kal's mooshed face, and the lack of blending on some areas of Kal's skin, and also maybe that Hilda looks too thin.)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Killer B !!SAMA!! on June 19, 2016, 02:14:26 AM
l like the color nc coloring there men the girl's left hand looks muscular hah but it fine good job men :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 19, 2016, 02:37:52 AM
I do tend to draw with a somewhat idealized form in mind, so when I'm shading, I tend to use muscle structure as my guide. I admit that I probably could have used a few more layers to smooth out some of that skin tone, but I figured that she looked relatively nice with a little emphasis. Then again, I really enjoy arm muscles, so I have a bias.

But, yes, thank you! As frustrating as they can be, colored pencils are a lovely media to work with.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MaidenManga on June 19, 2016, 05:04:53 AM
Happy with the comic strips. You & Super are now doing it I think others should too, those aspiring to do comics/manga should quickly get the experience of ACTUALLY doing it, regardless of skill level. Gives us all a good insight, it's actually pretty tiring lol.

Will be waiting for more, well done  :sheep: :dance:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 19, 2016, 06:53:47 PM
Yeah, I used to doodle quick little comic strips in high school, but for some reason, maybe because it was on a whole piece of paper and actually done more in a comic style, drawing that two-pager was really, really fulfilling and satisfying.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 25, 2016, 01:49:18 AM
Update: I drew my friends and I in our Borderlands AU Roleplay. There's a lot in this that I see as hugely flawed (like Harley's second boot behind Koala) but overall I enjoyed this. The rainbow thing was a happy accident, really, based on my friends' interests. Also yeah, for some reason they made me the siren, although I was more than happy to be so. Just a quick note that I have quit smoking irl (back in October), but I figure BL!AU me wouldn't, because Pandora sucks.

(http://i.imgur.com/7K9NAyv.jpg)

Also, damn, my phone camera really sucks.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 25, 2016, 11:05:58 AM
Another update!

First of all, I should probably consider that I have some kind of sleep disorder b/c this is the second time just this week that I've stayed up for two days straight. :-\

But secondly, thanks to some interesting advice from elsewhere, I've started attempting to just draw character sheets without things like clothes to bother me so I can really get into ensuring that I can maintain one character's proportions from drawing to drawing. I found out some interesting things that I should probably practice more, such as drawing characters from behind. I have kind of put off doing it because I'm not good at it, but all the more reason to start trying, right?

Other than that, I planned on sharing this with the other place, but the server appears to be down rn (or firefox is being a vixen to me) so eh, why not post here? :noidea:


(http://i.imgur.com/bS1B7kZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 30, 2016, 09:47:42 AM
Once again, I have tried to draw a character sheet. This time, it's for a muscular, tomboyish female. I've been trying to figure out how to draw the female form and I figure she might serve as a great leeway for me to connect the dots for how to properly differentiate male musculature and feminine physique. I'm not sure if you can tell by this but please imagine that this character is 5'1" (~154/155 cm). She's a fun little fireball, all right.

(http://i.imgur.com/zctpRSs.jpg)

Edit: I did a voice line (http://vocaroo.com/i/s0EVvoOgSK1S) for her, since she is one of my few OCs that I would actively voice act.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on June 30, 2016, 03:41:14 PM
that voice added a lot of character to the drawing :P
well done on keeping the details the same  for all the different views!
i think she does look a little taller than what you said though, that might be because you havent shown the feet so we cant get the scale properly.
well done!
getting the difference between male and female physique can be a bit of a pain, especially because there are many different body types for both genders, and some types can also overlap. with reference and practice you can get the hang of it i am sure. i am working on the same thing myself :P
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 30, 2016, 05:01:56 PM
Yeah, ironically it's not because I can't draw feet, but because I have the paper with a line drawn halfway through so I can draw another sheet below this one, and I kind of only realized that I scaled her too big after I had already started. I add minor details as I go, and sometimes I just kinda forget how long legs are until it's too late.

As you can tell, I kinda took advantage of that overlap because she has a fairly androgynous figure, but ever so slightly feminine.

As for keeping the details, most of it was a matter of taking a ruler and drawing very light lines horizontal across the page to make sure that the body was the same scale.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on July 01, 2016, 02:51:18 PM
yeah drawing feet can be a pain. i often practice them separately so i can draw them in more detail/larger than when on a character.

ahhh, the old horizontal ruler alignment trick! i often do that by hand and it goes disastrously wrong :P
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 05, 2016, 10:40:54 AM
I did a doodle. I was really just messing around today because why not and despite the fact that the perspective here looks like junk and I couldn't get the foot sole angled just the way I wanted, I think this shows a huge mark of progress as far as being able to draw the female form goes.

(http://i.imgur.com/zeiRpXY.jpg)

You can consider this a concept sketch for me in MRverse as well. I have some odd affliction for drawing self-portraits when testing new forms and poses. I guess it's because I'm most familiar with my overall body shape, and I just really like drawing wavy hair.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Miska on July 05, 2016, 03:53:03 PM
Looks great, i love the pose!  :D
How long have you been drawing? And what kind of colored pencils are you using for your colored works?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 05, 2016, 04:04:20 PM
I've been drawing ever since I can remember, really. You could say that I really started drawing anime/manga in about third grade. As for colored pencils, it varies. Earlier on, it was Crayola, and later I've switched to Prismacolor, although a couple of them might have some Kids Made Modern. Sometimes I'll use markers, either Crayola, Prismacolor, or Copics on skin tones and Faber-Castell on greys and blacks. Pigment liners I prefer Staedler, but I've also used Faber-Castell.

TL;DR I'm all over the place.

I'm glad you like the pose on this recent one. It gave me a little trouble. I may have been at this a long time, but I'm still learning.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Miska on July 05, 2016, 04:48:06 PM
Everyone is still learning; drawing is something you can always be even better at than you are at the moment. Your art did give it out that you definitely aren't new to drawing, i just wanted to know if you have been at it for years already or if you are just insanely fast learner  :D

I had never heard of Prismacolor pencils before. I'd like to get into traditional coloring and pencils are way cheaper than copics, so i definitely have to check out later if i can buy Prismacolor's pencils here in my country.

All of your poses look great :) I have been drawing for 10 years and my full body poses still tend to turn out way too stiff and boring, so you got a skill there that i definitely admire  :D
I'll be following your gallery, keep up the good work! :)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 05, 2016, 04:51:49 PM
Ah, thank you! I still find some of my poses to be quite stiff personally, but I find that most artists tend to hate their own work, in a way. I'll be glad to have you around. This place has been a little dry lately.

But yeah, Prismacolor isn't all that bad, although I may be spelling it wrong at the moment because that's how I read it. Even so, it's probably close enough. They give strong color pretty easily, and I love their vibrancy and intensity. They're soft, though, so they tend to wear pretty quickly if you're not careful.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Miska on July 05, 2016, 05:10:38 PM
Yeah, i think it would be impossible to find someone who is completely satisfied with their own work  :D But you definitely doesn't need to worry about your poses, they are looking great. And you will keep improving!

You didn't spell it wrong, i checked their website  :D I have only colored with watercolor pencils and the cheap ones, neither of those worked well for me. Sounds like Prismacolors might be exactly what i'm looking for, because i find it way easier to color with soft ones (which is the reason i don't like coloring with cheap market pencils). I have also colored with copic markers in the past, but copics cost 4.5-5 euros each here where i live, which is way too expensive for me.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on July 05, 2016, 05:35:10 PM
I did a doodle. I was really just messing around today because why not and despite the fact that the perspective here looks like junk and I couldn't get the foot sole angled just the way I wanted, I think this shows a huge mark of progress as far as being able to draw the female form goes.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h72/HematoLogMeIn/something%20progressive_zpskqqsjrrk.jpg)

You can consider this a concept sketch for me in MRverse as well. I have some odd affliction for drawing self-portraits when testing new forms and poses. I guess it's because I'm most familiar with my overall body shape, and I just really like drawing wavy hair.

Lot's of energy there! I like the look. And it sure is useful to have a reference image for canon characters. Nice on there Mahlua!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 05, 2016, 05:55:13 PM
I'm just going to throw out there that while most everyone seems satisfied with that overall, I had one friend who only went "Oh my god--your handwriting is so neat!"

I don't mind the compliment though. It's really just because I took a drafting class in high school and had to write in all caps at quarter of an inch high on literally every paper for that class for a whole semester.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Killer B !!SAMA!! on July 08, 2016, 07:25:04 PM
Oh cool characters there mahluaa ntw why ur name is mahluaandmilk? Hha im just curious  ;D
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 09, 2016, 09:16:20 AM
Mahlua was originally an intentional mispronunciation of my name, but I noticed that it was basically Kahlua with an M, and so my username is actually a play on my name and the name of a cocktail: Kahlua and Milk. I've never actually tried it, but since Kahlua is a coffee-ish flavored liquor, boy would I like to, but alas, for some reason even in the land of the brave and the home of the free you can't pick up booze until you're 21, despite being able to give yourself cancer I mean buy tobacco at 18. This country is weird.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Killer B !!SAMA!! on July 09, 2016, 08:53:20 PM
Hhhha thats a little riddle there meen cool
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 13, 2016, 06:40:43 PM
Followed some of Lego's advice and did some doodles while the padres lugged me around to run errands today. After practicing drawing the female form as I have, I attempted again to draw a slightly androgynous female form, and still kept the femininity. I'm pleased with the result, as well as how the perspective in the 3/4 view appears to have some improvement over my previous character sheet of Edana. Ironically, I followed Lego's advice and also picked up his slant towards the profile version, although it's probably because I was drawing while in a moving car and my perception was all messed up. Just disregard that I wasn't even trying on the hands. In any case:

(http://i.imgur.com/7QUC8Io.jpg)

Tell me what you all think. (Probably should have scaled this down a bit. Whoops.)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on July 13, 2016, 07:11:18 PM
*Whistles as he hides his drawings

Slant? What slant?

Feels like a level up for some reason? I like how these look. I think the elbows should be more at the center of the hands, but it's great how I can recognize the character in all views. I think the hip area should be rounder, but I like how the character overall looks solid. The shoes feel more 3d than I could ever hope to achieve haha. Nice work here Mahlua!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 13, 2016, 07:17:18 PM
Yeah, man. Hips have been giving me a hard time in drawing women, and you found my number one weakness: elbows.

But "level up" is a great way of looking at it. I'd rather share this than my prelim sketches of actual models, because me looking at stuff and drawing what I see is more of a learning tool. This actually demonstrates what I've learned in terms of applying it to my style. I'm glad my art seems to be coming together in terms of basic proportion. I'm not all the way where I want to be quite yet, but there's been a breakthrough somewhere...

Soon enough I'll have to start working with dynamic and moderate perspective. I think before I do it with characters, though, I should suck up and finally get my sorry ass learning how to do backgrounds. I have some lovely scenery around my hometown and my college town I could use to draw as reference and from there maybe learn how to draw some urban jungle and other such things. Really, it's kind of strange that I can draw people from my mind, and yet I have a trouble with drawing things. Then again, considering that I've only drawn characters for like, ever, that discrepancy makes sense.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on July 13, 2016, 07:27:47 PM
Yeaup. I flee from backgrounds. And objects are even worse. I noticed that when I got my hands on a comic by Kim Jun Gi. His models are amazing, but he can pack his scenes with so many things. Keyboards, coffee, plants, pens e.t.c That's still something I haven't gotten a handle on, but it is fun when your eye learns to pick up that sort of thing.

Good thing is that even if you focus too much on anatomy and drawing a human figure right, you can transfer a lot of those observation and proportion-setting skills to scenery. Not completely, but you can still carry over some of those tricks methinks.

Urban jungles are the best jungles.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 13, 2016, 07:45:04 PM
I love transferable skills, and perspective is definitely one of those. You can use it in background as well as to create action scenes in a panel. I find that drawing from life first, and then stylizing it, tends to have the best learning results in my work.

Kind of in the same line, I've mentioned before that I wrote the script for a cosplay show, and doing that kind of helped me learn how to script for comics, because taking things like camera angles, settings, and character movements as well as focus and dialogue, are equally transferable to and from film and comics, since both are visual media. I've also used it to plot out my prose, which I have also mentioned on here and on the Happy Hour podcast.

I've mostly just been working with pencils and pens to get that outline down, but one of my favorite skills is with colored pencil, and I'm learning how to do similar with markers (although I need to restock on those). I think someone else said this somewhere on MR already, but I'll go ahead and throw it out there again that it helps to shade an area not with a darker tone of the same color, but with its color opposite, i.e. shading red with green and blue with orange, etc. The reason this works is because of how colored pencil interacts with itself, and the color temperature (read: red/orange/yellow and similar are "warm", blue/green/purple and similar are "cool") cancels out into a darker shade. You have to be careful how thickly you layer the opposing colors, otherwise it might get a little ugly, but when done well, my oh my does it look nice.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on July 13, 2016, 07:50:28 PM
Gah, I haven't touched colour in ages. I don't think I'll get into it, but when I do I'll try to ask about those things again. I did hear about cool and warm colours once though. Just so far from it I have nothing for now haha.

Sigh perspective. When you learn some of that life will really be easier.

Writing scripts for cosplay events huh? That's pretty cool
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 13, 2016, 07:54:10 PM
Yeah. Not only have I written an entire eleven-episode season's worth of script, but I also have been selected as four different characters for the show, as well as the fact that I do my own make up and compose a lot of the original music with GarageBand. Oh, and I help out when we craft the weapons and other props.

My cosplay friends certainly keep me very busy.

Working with the props, though, has kind of helped me learn how to draw objects and break them down into parts, which I figure will eventually help me with drawing them.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Ryan on July 14, 2016, 05:06:33 PM
Hello Mahlua, you have some good artwork here. I can tell that you've been doing it for a long while.

However, we all have worlds of possibilities ahead of ourselves. For you, what's missing, and what will cause you problems repeatably, is your understanding in drawing form and in correct perspective. And it continues to cause problems even to people who understand perspective well. If somewhere in the professional's mind they stopped thinking about perspective, it would show.

"Really, it's kind of strange that I can draw people from my mind, and yet I have a trouble with drawing things. Then again, considering that I've only drawn characters for like, ever, that discrepancy makes sense."

This is a bad way of thinking about things. Most things you do as an artist are connected. We are all coherent throughout. People also are things. They have structure, like things. And they have perspective, like things. You have a lot of mileage in drawing figures, but a lot of the problems in your figures might be what you're noticing as troubling for drawing objects.

I'm going to assume if you were to draw this now, it would come out with similar problems:
Spoiler
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h72/HematoLogMeIn/mizzie%20character%20sheet%20attempt_zpspr03zgiz.jpg)

The conception of the forms of the body is missing here. And the accuracy to place the parts/landmarks of the body that would indicate consistent perspective is missing.

But, that's okay. This is something every artist goes through. It's a universal obstacle to overcome, so don't feel bad about it.

To go forward, you definitely need to study perspective. What is perspective convergence, and why does it happen? How can it be predicted? That's a question you'll need to learn to answer. Drawing landscapes and backgrounds will help, but it also might not be enough if you don't understand how to control convergence.

Here is an in-depth image, explaining some terminology I used, my own usage of it, as well as corrections to some of your images before. As well as some steps you can take, (http://i.imgur.com/2ytceS5.jpg)
This advice can apply to most viewers on this forum. It is my summary of important information for anyone to know if they wish to draw very well.

Recommended reading and viewing to better learn the subject of perspective and drawing the 'forms' of objects:
Books:
Vilppu Drawing Manual (my biggest recommendation for learning to draw things with full volume)
Spoiler
http://libgen.io/get.php?md5=25324038C4BDC322A3BFF0EBD95C454D&key=QLRNAC2NZ3W6GEPZ
Perspective Made Easy ( a basic introduction to perspective concepts. Will further explain some concepts I've mentioned. Recommended!)
Spoiler
http://libgen.io/get.php?md5=0ACEF8E9CC980BD731C5F4F546906D9E&key=3PVC8089JCFB9IRB

Viewing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dItQ0CW9UFg - Where to put the horizon line in a drawing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUma43dCGvE - How to perform the spiral sphere drawing exercise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K-EStL9yjQ - Introduction to Drawing (explains the concept of creating drawings that have volume and form. The "hidden dimension of the drawing")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHefdroQdDo - Drawing skills for Industrial Design artist (Perspective exercises! Really great stuff)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ektQPOQ9HeM - 5- Basic Drawing for Digital Painters (Boxstravaganza!) (This is for training intuition of convergence and 3-dimensional forms. Applies to any kind of drawing we do around here.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk84EpHmZKQ (The Basics: what they mean) (Basic form, form, etc.)

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI3AQx_Xd2M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BmnXNZVlPo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpV7LUfH6jI
(Form exercises)

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfWt0t-ElcA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5oAOnIn3cY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM-7qtjP2mM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3LVJ-2cZqg
(The "Barrier Effect", drawing in the page)


This is a lot of information, you could call it too much, in fact. Take your time, come back to the post every once in a while. There's a lot of mileage you can go with what I've put here.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 14, 2016, 05:29:57 PM
Thank you so much for compiling the list. That must have taken quite a while to type out and code.

I've known for a long time that I've needed help with perspective (read: I've known since middle school and done next to nothing about it :-\ bad 'Lua), and while it's a little intimidating, if I spent the past what eight to ten years of my life drawing things to try to figure out stuff like folds in clothing and basics of what I realize now are called landmarks and all sorts of other odd tricks for body proportions to get to where I am, then it's just going to take the same kinda work for me to get perspective to work in my favor.


"Really, it's kind of strange that I can draw people from my mind, and yet I have a trouble with drawing things. Then again, considering that I've only drawn characters for like, ever, that discrepancy makes sense."

This is a bad way of thinking about things. Most things you do as an artist are connected. We are all coherent throughout. People also are things. They have structure, like things. And they have perspective, like things. You have a lot of mileage in drawing figures, but a lot of the problems in your figures might be what you're noticing as troubling for drawing objects.

I had to read that a couple of times to get the full point of it, but now that you put it that way, I see where you're coming from, and it makes a lot of sense, then, that I have the difficulties that I do. I'll certainly be hopping around those links and trying these things out. There's no time like the present to make mistakes, after all, and no time like directly after doing so to bow your head and learn.

Again, thank you for taking the time to put all that up. I really do appreciate it. It kind of motivates me to get to work, but I'll give myself a day off because I'm not feeling very well and I find it best to learn when you aren't distracted by things like stomach-aches and mild nausea.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Ryan on July 15, 2016, 12:25:39 PM
Thank you so much for compiling the list. That must have taken quite a while to type out and code.

I've known for a long time that I've needed help with perspective (read: I've known since middle school and done next to nothing about it :-\ bad 'Lua), and while it's a little intimidating, if I spent the past what eight to ten years of my life drawing things to try to figure out stuff like folds in clothing and basics of what I realize now are called landmarks and all sorts of other odd tricks for body proportions to get to where I am, then it's just going to take the same kinda work for me to get perspective to work in my favor.


"Really, it's kind of strange that I can draw people from my mind, and yet I have a trouble with drawing things. Then again, considering that I've only drawn characters for like, ever, that discrepancy makes sense."

This is a bad way of thinking about things. Most things you do as an artist are connected. We are all coherent throughout. People also are things. They have structure, like things. And they have perspective, like things. You have a lot of mileage in drawing figures, but a lot of the problems in your figures might be what you're noticing as troubling for drawing objects.

I had to read that a couple of times to get the full point of it, but now that you put it that way, I see where you're coming from, and it makes a lot of sense, then, that I have the difficulties that I do. I'll certainly be hopping around those links and trying these things out. There's no time like the present to make mistakes, after all, and no time like directly after doing so to bow your head and learn.

Again, thank you for taking the time to put all that up. I really do appreciate it. It kind of motivates me to get to work, but I'll give myself a day off because I'm not feeling very well and I find it best to learn when you aren't distracted by things like stomach-aches and mild nausea.


No problem there. Take your time and jump into it whenever you're ready to have it  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 17, 2016, 12:52:43 PM
There was that character sketch up there, but did you know I only tend to share part of my pages? Well, then what are the rest of the pages being used for? Other concepts and character models, usually, but since Ryan gave me those lovely perspective things to work with, it's become a bit of both. Hazzah! The full glory of a 9x12" sketchbook page! Albeit blurry because my ability with a phone camera is dubious.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h72/HematoLogMeIn/8106e058-60f5-4e89-9a94-ed7420fbc93c_zpsu9rxfdjy.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on July 17, 2016, 01:02:12 PM
Whoa! Someone is doing some level grinding. I'm terrified from drawing real life scenes and physical objects. And yes, larger paper sizes are heavenly. I like the 3d shapes you have going there too. Keep at it Mahlua!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 17, 2016, 02:13:59 PM
I find drawing what I see to be much easier than drawing from my mind. Because of that, I think it's an excellent learning tool. The only thing about it is that I have to pay attention to why things are the way they are, and thankfully Ryan's post gave me some insight into perspective, and after reading through it, the scene in my room made a bit more sense for me to draw, although I admit that I was paying more attention to the eyeline concept than to the actual perspective vanishing points and the like, because drawing from real life, you have the luxury of just having them and if you can copy what you see well, you don't have to think too much on them. The real hell is going to be figuring those out and dealing with them accordingly.

You can't get better if you don't work on it. I'm trying to do a little something in all of my works every day, including my writing and practicing on the slackline, which I just came back from and am now quite sweaty over. That whole page is about three days' worth of stuff.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 19, 2016, 02:29:59 PM
FINALLY!

After some ass-backwards borrowing of Dad's laptop, various frustrations with Google not wanting to let me log in for "security reasons", and f---ing Google Drive acting up, I finally present to you all an actual scanned sketchbook page to show you exactly what all I've been up to yesterday and today. As it says very legibly in the beautifully crisp scanned image, I used a lot of Ryan's references to kind of build myself up. Also in that box we see the username of a certain someone on another forum that we are not discussing outside of me passively commenting that spite is a very powerful motivator.

There are also notes to myself littered throughout which you may read at your leisure because bless my legible handwriting and bless my old drafting instructor for enabling that to happen. I will say below the cut there is some artistic nudity as I tried to understand the female form, and I am fairly certain that I have made good progress and perhaps a breakthrough on the matter. In the next few days I may start drawing from mind instead of from reference image to test this, but first, I still have to train my mind on this.




(http://i.imgur.com/sGQk8hw.jpg)

Since my sketchbook is 9x12" and my scanner only allots for typical 8.5x11" documents, I'll just write out some of the things you might not be able to read from the bottom of the page as I was kind of jotting my thoughts down.
>"Female forms from...Drawing Manual"
>>"Good tips on--"
>"I feel like I'm starting to see form differently. It's very foreign, but I think it's a step in the right direction. It's like, working out a new brain muscle or something."
>"LOL guess my sketchbook is also a sort of journal now. Also probably not a bad thing. I mean, I'm seeing progress, right?"

That third bit there sums up what I'm feeling. I'm starting to see my art and how I go about it change, and it wears my brain out, but I figure as I continue to work with it, it'll give me less of a headache.

As always, feedback is encouraged and appreciated.

Footnote: I highly recognize that my ability to draw what I see far exceeds my ability to draw things from my mind. It's about a thousand times easier for me to draw what I see and conceptualize it than to work in reverse by conceptualizing something and then putting it into the visual spectrum. Because of that, when I do switch to not relying on references, you will likely see a tremendous quality decrease. Just kind of a heads up.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on July 19, 2016, 06:31:41 PM
Yikes. I mean, there's some small proportional innacuracies here and there, but I can tell you can really understand what you're seeing and transfer that to paper. The backgrounds and the forms look real solid and... Dimensional I guess.

Haha. Spite motivator. I know the feel all to well unfortunately.

Ryan is really good with these sorts of tips. He's always ready to give advice so be sure to hit him up with a PM if he doesn't notice the post. He'll be sure to give more helpful tips.

All I can say is definitely stick to 2 sources for learning MAXIMUM. Please, please do not download tonnes of books or tutorials you'll never check out. It just makes things worse.

I really think you'll level up like a beast Mahlua. Are you aiming to make illustrations or comics by the way?

As always keep it up
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 19, 2016, 07:27:31 PM
All I can say is definitely stick to 2 sources for learning MAXIMUM. Please, please do not download tonnes of books or tutorials you'll never check out. It just makes things worse.

I think I'm doing like four if you count drawing from life and one little trick from a video about doing things from your mind, but there are like two pdfs that I'm using (thanks Ryan) for the most part, so I guess that qualifies as only using two? From time to time I flip back over this really nice and lengthy strength training anatomy book for more of an idea of the inner workings of the body (and occasionally for workout tips), but I do use it. That's three pdfs total, then, and then just applying other tactics that I've heard to just kind of work on hand-eye coordination.

It's kind of a mix. I'm something of a learning sponge. I absorb information from various sources and apply as I see fit. It's a matter of focusing on what I can learn and then executing it, even if it doesn't come out right the first time (especially if it doesn't come out right the first time).


I really think you'll level up like a beast Mahlua. Are you aiming to make illustrations or comics by the way?

I'm not sure where I want to take my art, honestly, but it would be nice if I turned Anim into a saga of novels and was able to provide my own illustrations and cover art. Outside of that, there's always the joy of drawing for others. Commissions and the like are probably in my future.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 20, 2016, 03:17:44 PM
So, I sat down and did about three sketches of the female form from Vilppu, and then I was like, okay, I'm gonna try drawing something original, no reference, just to check my progress, so I drew a more updated MRverse self, for one of the later stories I have in mind in which eventually I will be in a battle scene, so I'm totally decked out in some kickass armor. I believe I have definitely come lengths and bounds for drawing the female form, and I can tell by the way the waistguard wraps around and especially in how nice the khopesh turned out that I'm coming around to form in general and spacing things properly. It's very very very mild perspective, but I see it poking through where it wasn't before and I am very pleased. There is the other sketch in the top corner there, but eh, doesn't make the ink any less awesome.

I also believe this is the first time of me posting me messing around with pen and ink, that is, my pigment liners. It's got a really sketchy, loose, freehand feel and I love what it brings, especially considering this was mostly just supposed to be a test. I can't put my finger on what manga it reminds me of, and part of me wants to say Bleach, but I don't think that's right...

In any case, here's this gnarly lovely. Enjoy. (I just know Lego will in particular.)


(http://i.imgur.com/Ll7Zerg.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on July 20, 2016, 03:28:05 PM
Yeaup, you predicted correctly. That just looks so freaking badass. And pen and ink to boot. Definitely giving off that ready for battle feel
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 20, 2016, 03:31:55 PM
Well clearly with the little bit of blood dripping from the khopesh and splattered on my face and arm, some poor spam ninja just met its end.

But yes, pen and ink is such a lovely media to work with, although you can see where I added some pencil for a little more pop and smoothness.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 20, 2016, 11:07:55 PM
Oh my, what's this? It's a lineart chapter cover for Hence Tenderly Returned! :dance:

I slapped a character with a simple background, and y'know what? It doesn't look absolutely terrible. My art is starting to get this lovely little thing called depth. Granted, hands are awkward, that forearm is awkward, and how do crotch of pants even? I kind of enjoy the way Kubo does the chapter art in his manga, so I tried something similar, and I'd say it worked out pretty well.

Sadly, it's phonecam quality because I don't feel like going through the ridiculous backbends of using the scanner here, and this is only the lineart phase. Tomorrow I'll figure out if I want to color or ink it and whatnot.


(http://i.imgur.com/E1jKane.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Killer B !!SAMA!! on July 21, 2016, 02:07:30 AM
the left leg seems long that a nice page men btw is it a girl? keep it up  cool
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Ryan on July 21, 2016, 02:43:32 AM
I have a bad habit of making a post on the forum and then not posting for a couple days. It's probably also a bad habit now of mine to make large posts. But, I do check my forum mailbox daily, so if you ever do need to ask me something, you can be sure that I will respond within a day usually, as Lego is aware of.

I'll be commenting on some things that have caught my eye.

I recognize some of the perspective/form exercises you were doing in your sketchbook. Brings back good memories of when I used to do them a few years ago. Good to see you giving them a try.

In terms of when drawing from life, you generally don't need to worry about vanishing points, indeed. It's worth saying over and over again, that vanishing points are only the 'destination' of sets of parallel lines (2+ lines). In any given scene you can have an unlimited amount of vanishing points, in every which way, not to mention tilted objects that will have vanishing points off of the eye line. If you have a lot of objects in alignment (such as in a row, or it's obvious they should be parallel), the vanishing point could be considered, or you could feel out the convergence.

You are nowhere near overloading yourself with resources, in terms of books. No worries there.

Good to see you draw from Vilppu. Sometime you should try searching for him on youtube and see what you find  ;) It's very good that you're starting to awaken to the form/force (bad joke, I know).

Almost everybody will draw better with reference what they are not already master of. That's a universal experience. You will find a way to work around it, which generally means mastering the hell out of what you really want to be good at from your head, and sucking up using reference to enrich your gaps of knowledge.

I quite like the amazonian sketch you did. There's indeed some form/perspective stuff going on that you didn't have before.

Reclining poses can be difficult. You can see there are problems, but getting it right seems like a dream. I've felt that way many times before, at least. The leg with the knee up has some good overlap going on between the upper and lower leg. What can help with reclining poses is to think "How would I be sitting? What's comfortable?", I think. A lot of the problems with reclining poses I think is that people don't know how to arrange the figure's gesture. The general pose for the body is fine(what you have), but I would probably be holding the can in front of me. That also would happen to reinforce the silhouette.

(http://image.prntscr.com/image/edc29b01caa3456d98ccb803774be5a8.png) Here's sort of what I mean. Moving the arm in makes the silhouette simpler and more direct(in the way that the direction of the body is completely understandable). I drew a center-line across the top of the body to show how I chose to angle the leg. The idea is that a leg held straight out will line up with a line that cuts the body/figure into two equal halfs (the long way, from head to toe. You can call this the longitudinal axis. You might have heard of that in an anatomy book before http://www.quintic.com/education/imagesforeducation/20a.jpg).
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 21, 2016, 01:32:03 PM
Ah, yeah, you found what was bugging me that I couldn't put my finger on. I'll certainly keep working, although my schedule today decided to get flipped because my parents are dragging me somewhere. Ugh, drawing in a moving vehicle will be the death of me, but I told myself that I was going to practice every day, and I figure I should do that for at least a week. Besides, if Lego can do it, I might as well work on it. Not like I'm getting any younger.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 22, 2016, 02:52:58 PM
Oh hey look, it's been quite a while since I've posted a full-color work here, and I believe this is the first scanned one. Much to my dismay, the light used by the scanner makes the colors not quite come out as true as they are on paper, but I digress.

Skin tones were from Prismacolor colored pencil because I didn't trust my Copics, which are mostly dried up at this point. Everything else is Crayola markers, which are particularly difficult to blend with. They tend to come out too bold and give little to no gradient unless they're starting to dry, like one of the blues and my primary violet, but that's also not great when you're trying to color over a larger space. Eugh, I just need to get some better markers at this rate. I miss my Copics, and at the very least if I could upgrade to Faber-Castell or Prismacolor markers, that'd be great.

Anyway, as you might be able to tell from this cover art, I am planning on turning chapter 6 of Hence Tenderly Returned (which is floating around somewhere under Manga Creations) into comic form. I figure this will be a great way to apply what I've been studying and really work with it. I'm not sure why chapter 6 in particular...I guess because it was the most emotional and I feel like drawing that emotion would be a good goal to strive for? (Also because I'm extremely lazy and don't have much of summer left to like, draw all six chapters out.


(http://i.imgur.com/GKsOHHA.jpg)

Let it also be noted that I hate how my colored pencils ride over my pigment liners. It's quite frustrating as far as inking is concerned.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 23, 2016, 08:08:50 PM
Yoooo, so I read somewhere a while back that using index cards to thumbnail out a comic can help you with scaling it up and placing things a little easier when you go full size, so I started by thumbnailing the first three pages of HTR, but like, the thing about it is that for some reason I felt really good about these thumbnails despite not exactly having a script. I was just looking at my chapter six document, and it just made so much sense from the transfer from prose to comic, and I just have no explanation for this. They're two completely different methods of storytelling, and it's kind of exhausting to do it visually in comic form, but it's more because, using Ryan's analogy, I don't have a lot of mileage with it. Somehow, despite that, I seem to be pretty good at it though, I think??? (At least for a beginner.) I'll let you guys decide on that.

I had to fiddle around with contrast and stuff to make the pencil show up well in the scan; I hope my writing is still legible. Also, again, I stress that this is more of a thumbnail preliminary kind of thing than me actually drawing.


(http://i.imgur.com/VnPYGtb.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 30, 2016, 01:56:15 PM
I wanted to do another two-lined kinda thing like how I had the title page above pages two and three, but I probably won't be getting to pages six and seven for a while. Most of what I'm working on is actually paneling, since I'm more of a writer in terms of storytelling. I know my perspective and stuff is still relatively jank, but, eh.

Pages four and five of Hence Tenderly Returned, chapter six, everyone. Remember, I'm a westerner, so it reads right to left!


(http://i.imgur.com/Je7Zr3m.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: DBNext on July 30, 2016, 03:16:27 PM
How have I not seen this before?
Really nice work overall. I'll have to spend some time to flip through the topic, but the recent stuff looks good so far. I get what you mean by thumbnails being easier to handle. It's not just with thumbnails, generally when drawing on a small scale, you get to have a better understanding of the page and how everything fits together.
Paneling is clean and flows nicely, but any reason why you're not leaving spaces between the panels? Or is it just because these are drafts?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 30, 2016, 03:54:08 PM
Thanks for stopping in! Yeah, drawing small just makes me feel more in control and I don't have to drag my pencil as far. Yeah, the space issue is due to lack of space for now, and I'm going to expand out and the textboxes should be smaller and more cleaned up.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 23, 2017, 12:43:00 AM
Augh, yeah, somehow this got shoved in the second/third page of this section. Welp, time to revive.

I may have mentioned somewhere else around that I started a commission for a friend of mine who wanted to be drawn in a Persona 5 type of style with his own mask, so I doodled him up and gave him a Tragedy drama mask (although I think P5 sticks to half masks--oh well.)

With this commission, I have hence been paid for all his driving me around for the next couple of months and any potential "tab" I might accrue for February.


(http://i.imgur.com/fvJhGMH.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on January 23, 2017, 01:49:10 AM
Ah so this was the Persona stuff. Great looking suit! And I like the effect that the red stripe has on the whole image. Nice one Mahlua
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 23, 2017, 02:48:50 AM
Thanks. There's another doodle I did tonight after doing some more cheesy boyband XV strips from our gameplay last night, but I posted that elsewhere given the...nature of the contents.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: KeanFox on January 31, 2017, 10:52:21 AM
You are doing alot of drawing. Pretty cool character designs descriptions also :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 31, 2017, 11:01:36 AM
Thanks. I really need to practice a little more, though, to keep in the swing of things, but work and school makes it hard.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Gabryel on January 31, 2017, 12:57:21 PM
Yeah I know that feeling. In my case it's kids, but that "need to practice moah!!!" doesn't get off my neck. I remember doodling in all my notes back in school LOL

Well nice works so far, but the pages are so small, my eyes are too bad to read them XD I especially like the "knock knock" sfx. I'm having a hard time with making those look good in german / english. Japanese is so much easier...
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 31, 2017, 01:37:12 PM
I also try to practice drawing Gothic style fonts or Graffiti-esque logos and the like, so maybe it's a calligraphy thing to be able to give SFX life. It's such a small thing, but we could...make a workshop on that :ohmy: wow holy sh-t let me just go do that. Thanks for the idea.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Gabryel on January 31, 2017, 01:42:29 PM
Awesoooome!!! Yes that would be greatly helpful!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 31, 2017, 01:45:25 PM
The start of it is done. Now I have to go grab lunch and do like six other things today and I still have that cover art to draw for someone on here (I haven't forgotten) and then after that I'll get to drawing out that page of SFX and other stuff for reference.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on February 17, 2017, 05:50:21 PM
Haha, I've finally gotten to work on PhoenixFireFlower's commission. I went ahead and uploaded this same sketch on the request thread, but I'll also slide it into my gallery because it does kind of also go here...

Chains are fun to draw twisting around one another, and if you look you can see about three or four different styles of links going on here. Also worthy of note: new signature emblem thing. Two Gothic-print Ms diagonal one another crossing over an ampersand. Mahlua and Milk, M&M. The design is totally different from the candy, though. They can bite my ass if they want to sue me.


(http://i.imgur.com/o9QWAX1.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on March 17, 2017, 04:08:55 AM
So yeah, that work for PhoenixFireFlower is coming along. I just PM'd them this earlier, before my tirade on the chit chat thread. Inking does wonders for things.

(http://i.imgur.com/OG7kGzn.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: TK-Seki on March 26, 2017, 10:11:37 AM
Yes~ inking is therapeutic. XD It can also drive you nuts. Hahaha. Nice concept! I have the urge to break those chains. D:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Gabryel on March 26, 2017, 04:13:47 PM
I like inking. Or hate it. Depends if I destroy the sketch with it or make it better :D yours is well done though! Congrats!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on March 26, 2017, 07:52:07 PM
The expressions, the cleanness of lines, and the all drawn chain-links - I wish I had half this level of patience. Love the picture. Artsy stuff in a good and interesting way. What did you use to ink?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on April 05, 2017, 12:04:11 AM
Wow, people commenting on my art thread, what is this? :ohmy:

Hahaha, I kid. Thanks for dropping by. I feel like senpai noticed me 2x combo, since all three of you are amazing and you're complimenting my work. 

To answer lego's question, I use staedtler pigment liners ranging from .1mm to .8mm for most of my inking, but from time to time I'll also use a Sharpie for big fill-ins. I didn't this time, though.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on April 11, 2017, 04:22:05 PM
(Scrapes self back into existence)
All right!
Copious amounts of homework and a literal collapse into a panic attack in front of about a dozen customers at work later and I have some stuff to share. (I'm fine now, by the way. I just have a bruised knee from where I went down.)

Firstly, I have PhoenixFireFlower's commission done and colored! And—check this out—I was able to use the scanner here at the library to make sure it looked all right.


(http://i.imgur.com/w5xxyEp.jpg)

Sadly, my hand slipped on the marker in a couple of places since the red marker is a Prismacolor and I'm used to Staedtler and Copics in my hands and it felt wonky. Her skin tone also looks slightly greenish, and it miffs me...but overall, I'm pleased, especially just because it's finally done. Christ, it took forever.

---

Secondly, my friends finally got enough into Soul Eater to, like Borderlands, make an AU story idea with us involved. Much like how they made me the designated Siren, they pinned me as the Witch, although I made myself a weapon form in case those weebs ever change their mind. It was super neato, though, and I wound up drawing reference sheets for myself. Not like I'm an egoist or anything, I swear. (Winkwonk.)


(http://i.imgur.com/s1nTLMJ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Eiqx0U0.jpg)

My handwriting in pencil doesn't show up well with the scanner. I'm sure there'd be a way to adjust the contrast, but I do have other things to do after I upload these today...namely a good, what, six papers due by the end of the month? Not to mention there's still work to deal with, since thankfully I only got my first write-up for "leaving a lot of dishes unwashed for third shift to clean up after" (although I didn't think it was that bad...the girls were practically shooing me home after seeing me wheezing on the floor, too.) and I'm still working upwards of sixteen or twenty hours this week. Ugh.

Ah well. Am I getting back into being an "active" member yet?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Shinpi Tekina on April 11, 2017, 05:13:23 PM
do you do art lessons too or just writing lessons by lesson i mean like classes
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on April 11, 2017, 05:26:46 PM
I was in a couple of art classes in middle and high school, but they were generic and really textbooky, like defining terms for clay and "what is a line?". I felt like they were particularly made for those mouth-breathing, loud, uncreative wannabe unique white girls with that certain unoriginal handwriting. I remember I almost duked it out with one of the teachers at my high school because she kept complaining that my work needed more contrast and shading when I was more used to coloring with colored pencil than what we were working with, and I generally had a more cel-shading like style then. She really p—ed me off...

When it comes to most of the things I do with my work, I just pick up reference books and figure things out on my own. For the most part, experience has always been my teacher. Even when I was in art classes, I went above and beyond with the assignments, figuring out particular intricacies that I could use, whereas most of my classmates barely cared and only wanted the easy extracurricular credit.

Still not forgiving that one teacher for trying to change my whole style just to suit her tastes. Almost as if to spite me, she only gave me one 100 on any assignment. I could never find out why my sketches came back with 97s and other ridiculous grades were those bozos I mentioned before who clearly weren't putting any effort at all got pity 100s. Thankfully my college experience, although it was a general history of art class, was much more open than that crazy rat.

I can say, though, that I have now taken (that is, I am in the process of taking) a creative writing class as well as an applied grammar class.

---

THE SHORT ANSWER:
Kinda-sorta-not really.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Shinpi Tekina on April 11, 2017, 07:22:57 PM
hmm your story reminds a bit of my experience in my art class. but more so when i first learn how to write poetry. my teacher made me throw away my original poem and make a new one. I showed everyone my poem everyone really did praise it too. ehh omg i could go on a rant but wished people wouldn't force there like their will on you.just like what you said make something that they like.

i get the whole going by the textbook i wasn't doing so in the art class i was in and like she couldn't comprehend my art

but hmm but every art teacher should be able to admit they are wrong. I watch this like fashion lecture with this person was saying how she told this designer that his fashion is crap basically and he ended up having his fashion on runways and having celebrities wear it etc. then one day she kinda go that designer drunk for him to spill the beans to how it was successful, its a bit hazy but you get the point


Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on April 11, 2017, 07:26:53 PM
Damn, man. I'm sorry to hear that. No one should ever throw away poetry. It's such a delicate art of expression...

As someone going into English Education, I agree. Teachers need to be able to admit when they're wrong.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: KeanFox on April 14, 2017, 03:38:09 AM
I never been to any art school, what i heard from people that some art will school teach you nothing new or teach stuff you can learn by yourself . And the big illustration and concept design will put you in debt.
Some people learn better in a school environment .So do the research on the school you want to go to and see what you going to get out of it.

On the teacher i don't know about your art teacher . teachers can be stubborn and and wrong about things, plus personal taste play in it.
Teachers in general hate styles, anime in specific. They want you to draw  and classical they believe it's better for learning. if its how to draw the figure class draw the figure realistically. Give them what they want in the class and try to learn .
Do the stylized art in your personal time.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on April 23, 2017, 05:20:42 PM
I've always had a problem with my literature class because of that. I have so many of my own ideas when it comes to writing that I don't follow the syllabus strictly, and it only causes me grief. I've learnt my lesson: Feed the teacher what they want and do what you want on your free time indeed.


Soul Eater AU? Hell yes. Atsushi ?kubo's uniqueness is not valued enough. Love how grim his stories can actually be, and so action packed and no nonsense. He's really good at drawing insanity too. And Arachnophobia was terrifying as a witch.

The nekomimi witch was bae though forever.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on April 24, 2017, 03:37:23 PM
As I may have mentioned to someone earlier, I have been working on a little something lately. Now, these are just pencil thumbnail sketches of a storyboard made on *censored*ty little index cards, so the quality even when scanned is not great, and I'll grant for that, but from what you can see, eh, I can't complain.

And so I present, the first scene of "Genderbending Conundrums," storyboarded. Ish.


(http://i.imgur.com/gSWgWo3.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/VOEgyxh.jpg)

lol how do draw motorcycle :-\
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on April 24, 2017, 06:45:42 PM
What is Genderbending Conundrum about?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on April 24, 2017, 06:57:18 PM
It's a story that can be found right here on MR. (http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,17688.0.html) Presently it has two drafts, and there will be one final product after I meet with my creative writing professor.

In short, and it might take a little studying up on Coryn's MR Universe canon (which I have saved on a Google Drive, and it's around the site somewhere as well. You'll probably have to search it. From what I remember, it's in a weird section...) the Ecchi Twins use their magic and genderbend all raiders, and to reverse the curse, a group of them hunt down the four gems containing the magic to break them and release the spell. Although...it gets a little more sinister in the grand scheme of things considering the implications with the Tans.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on April 24, 2017, 10:18:22 PM
You're comicing!? Hell yesssss. Too few people storyboard and comic here, glad to see the trend is changing now. Haha you're really invested in this story huh? Haha really great to see
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Coryn on April 25, 2017, 01:01:14 PM
The section isn't that weird. We don't really have a great place for MR Canon in specific.

Here's a link though: http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,4437.0.html


I am interested to see what you think we all look like gender bent.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on April 25, 2017, 05:25:08 PM
Gender bent?? Sounds like fun
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 17, 2017, 05:34:38 PM
Well since everyone else seems to be posting studies, I guess I'll do something of the sort, or try to.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZneUIHZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Gabryel on May 18, 2017, 07:30:21 AM
Studies are good, studies you must do alot. I like the ones with the arm risen, and you already have a feeling for the legshapes. That being said, studies also often are boring XD can't say I enjoy it alot ...
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 18, 2017, 02:12:32 PM
Thank ye~
Yeah, I'll be working on some more eventually. The weird thing is that I like doing studies. It's like a brain exercise.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 21, 2017, 05:50:25 PM
Did some sketches last night while sitting on the front porch. I have learned that while I can now almost break down the shapes that go into the human form, my capacity to draw from life and figure out shape, space, three dimensions, and perspective are far, far lower than I'd like. I also noticed that I had a really hard time trying to get lines to go at the exact angle that I wanted them, so there's some hand-eye issues too. It's strange that I thought I was doing so well when my grasp of fundamentals is still so low. But, then again, looking at my older works...I'll take my improvements. Only drawing people just will not do from here on out.

(http://i.imgur.com/Wdayman.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/fdS8qrO.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on May 22, 2017, 12:09:18 AM
You've arrived at conclusions that came crashing on my head haha. You have no idea. Funny thing is it's the mechanical - hand eye - thing that irks me the most. Even before I do anything fundamental what's the point when my hand won't go where it's meant to?

Glad to see you get on board this though. The way you spurced up that rocking chair, the great hand and observations really confirm my suspicions that you'll have a good time with this. I already recommended that ebook for sketching so always check out a picture or two in there for inspiration when buildings are killing you too much. Otherwise keep it up!

Spoiler
How? Hahaha. With lot's of cursing and self-deprecation. Music does help though so try that out.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 22, 2017, 01:50:50 AM
Will definitely be looking into that ebook again pretty soon. I didn't get around to doing much of anything today with my body feeling like every inch of it weighed an extra twenty pounds, but soon there will be updates.

Sometimes I listen to music as I work and sometimes not. As far as hand-eye coordination goes, my favorite thing has been how I managed to draw my desk. Maybe it's because I barely picked up the pen at all. Maybe I'll just do that when I find myself in a mood to draw everything.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Vio on May 22, 2017, 12:45:09 PM
I think these sketches are quit lovely. It's good practice sketching items and your environment, especially when you're trying to add both concepts together like your desk. Great job! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 24, 2017, 02:20:01 AM
I had the urge to draw people again, but I fought it off by doing another page of sketches, this time from random junk in my room. This attempt went far better than the previous one. Still having some issues with straight lines, but that's to be expected.

(http://i.imgur.com/53W1GuN.jpg)

I have determined that I hate drawing chairs. :thumbsdown:

Unimportant edit: I told my friend about this. The conversation went as follows:

tw: crude humor/TMI

"F—— chairs."
"No. F—— on chairs. Don't f—— the chairs."
"But I already have f——ed on this chair!"
"Point stands. Don't f—— chairs."
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on May 24, 2017, 01:14:48 PM
chairs, much like hands and faces, are a very commonly recognized and seen object, so its a lot easier to notice things that dont look right when you draw one. fortunately, they can be broken into their components parts (legs/armrests etc) a lot easier than hands, faces or organic stuff. you might find a quick study/refresher in perspective will help you capture that extra layer of reality in your drawings.
straight lines can be a pain, if you want a serious straight line obviously use a ruler, but otherwise practise and you will get better at freehand ones. dont forget to use your arm when moving, not just your wrist, otherwise you will get quite curved lines :P

i havnt commented on your work in a while but it looks like you are balancing drawing backgrounds and people for a rounded out skill. keep it up!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 24, 2017, 01:20:13 PM
you might find a quick study/refresher in perspective will help you capture that extra layer of reality in your drawings.

Haha, yeah. Perspective and I don't get along. At all. That's kind of the point of me trying to just draw objects in perspective for now. If I can start to understand how the eyeline works, then I'll move on to perspective backgrounds. But, for now...things.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on May 24, 2017, 02:53:02 PM
for now...things.
and its not wasted time either. regardless of the manga or drawings that you do, they will undoubtedly have these objects in the background to add detail, so its all useful in the end :P
i often take a photo of an object after drawing it, and try and overlay it digitally to see where i messed up, its quite an educational experience (f you dont depress yourself!)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 24, 2017, 06:08:38 PM
I've been out of digital since my tablet pen's pressure gauge got broken (my fault). I could probably get a new one eventually, but why bother with things that cost money when I can walk down the street and still learn fundamentals with a pen and sketchpad?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on May 24, 2017, 07:51:23 PM
That sounds like a lot of fun
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on May 25, 2017, 04:04:38 PM
Dirty jokes ftw. Also I only noticed your very very strange pen gripping method. I mean, how? I tried it and it didn't work out for me. Looking good, Mahlua! Keep it up
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 07, 2017, 11:15:58 PM
Drew some stuff that was in one of my classrooms. Then the professor moved one of the chairs and put her stuff on it. She was very confused when I made a happy noise and began sketching feverishly again. Things that aren't chairs are progressing very well for me, but...well...image says it all.

(http://i.imgur.com/k6NFh40.jpg)

Moral of the story here: draw what you suck at. It's the only way to eventually stop sucking at it. That's the hope, anyway. Ugh, why do the chairs in the English building have to be so weird, anyway?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Shane on June 08, 2017, 03:55:56 AM
Im will try to keep it simple as much as possible, and you can use it for everything you draw(obviously not just the chair)


Page 1
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f19/searkhunter/Mi%20perspective/ma%201_zpst3whtj1v.jpg)
Page 2
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f19/searkhunter/Mi%20perspective/ma%202_zpsmgbmwn2u.jpg)
Page 3
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f19/searkhunter/Mi%20perspective/ma%203_zpsjahldnk0.jpg)
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(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f19/searkhunter/Mi%20perspective/ma%204_zpsk34u4l6m.jpg)
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(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f19/searkhunter/Mi%20perspective/Ma%205_zpsjnrkusvj.jpg)
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(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f19/searkhunter/Mi%20perspective/ma%206_zpszggu21vt.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Gabryel on June 08, 2017, 04:54:18 AM
Haha, awesome! Perspective is something that will come to you sooner or later. Because, if you want to draw people, you'll notice at some point, they look better with perspective too, urgh! Anyway, good work on the "room stuff".

@shane It's a good explained sequence on perspective you got there. I found though, that its often not as easy as that. If you set up a room like that, it would often look much too steep and strange. But it'S a good theoretical base to understand what is going on in the first place.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Manimal Claus on June 08, 2017, 09:09:22 AM
These random object sketches are working out well for you, your sketching looks pretty good here and it looks like you're getting the basic ideas of all these things down pretty well. Look at those chairs. Going back further that hand holding pen drawing is pretty intense. Keep up them sketches!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 08, 2017, 10:04:31 AM
Thank you, Shane. Mostly what I've been doing at this point is figuring out hand-eye coordination stuff and actually getting the angles for perspective to look right and to break my old habit of parallel lines that don't actually exist. Somewhere I had a page where I just kinda scribbled 3D shapes, but maybe I should keep doing that. After all, breaking things down into simpler shapes is one of the easiest ways to make complicated stuff easier.

@Gabriel: yeah, that's a lot of the reason I'm doing this. It's a fundamental of art, and I know once I get it, just about everything will improve, so long as I take it into consideration with each work.

@Manimal: sup, dude. Thanks for the input. I drew hands for a good long while and nothing else, so now looking at my hand and copying it is easy-peasy no problemo. I'll definitely keep up the work when I can, but my classes might be the death of me, and if not, next semester's tuition, and if not that, then fall's.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on June 10, 2017, 09:57:54 AM
have you tried using a sharp pencil, or a clicky pencil? your lines are very thick and that can make it hard to add detail, or to see errors clearly. i think that might help a lot.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 10, 2017, 02:14:10 PM
I use mechanical pencils and there are like no pencil sharpeners around here, and the one I have is junk and likes to break lead instead of sharpen it. I've heard that same thing before, but I honestly have no idea how to fix this. Usually my mechanical pencils work fine, but the sharp end usually tries to cut open a page, so I have to be careful with that. I also hate trying to erase something when the pencil has made such a deep grove into the paper. It never goes away and messes everything up.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: TK-Seki on June 21, 2017, 09:36:34 PM
Hmm, what grade of pencil lead do you use with your mechanical pencil, Mahlua? You could try using two different grades. An HB (regular) or H lead for your guidelines, and B or 2B for your final lines.

Heads up on using HB and H grades, they're hard types so their lines are very light-- they WILL make grooves and cut into paper when you press down forcefully. That's why they're ideal for just drafting.

Switch your pencil lead to B/2B (I keep two mechanicals for each grade because I'm lazy) once you're ready to finalize everything: details, more defined features and all. These leads are really soft, so they give you darker lines even without pressure. You may even choose to ink them in once you decide not to make any more changes.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 21, 2017, 09:37:55 PM
I have never seen lead marked by anything other than HB. The only varieties I find are "do you have a .07mm pen or a .05mm?"
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: TK-Seki on June 21, 2017, 09:41:51 PM
I have never seen lead marked by anything other than HB. The only varieties I find are "do you have a .07mm pen or a .05mm?"

The mm's are the size of your leads. leads have a case when you buy them, and some of them have their grades already labeled on them. See if they have letters printed on it once you check. Here's a little chart I looked up about the lightness those leads have. The letters under them are their grades. :)

(https://36z9yt2c7y8f2f8nht38fgt3173q-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/lead_grade_swatches-11.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Lord Kesashi on June 22, 2017, 12:13:33 AM
If you shop at walmart, you're not likely to find anything other than HB pencils because they standardize those for scantrons.

You'll see these things come up at an actual art store. You could also shop online for unusual or specialized materials.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: BobbyJoeXForgotenSB on June 22, 2017, 12:39:52 AM
well thats not entirely true.... funny enough i have bought art pencils at a dollar store, depending on the brand tho, you can get really good pencils XD

reason i say this is awesmome is because money doesnt grow on trees, you make do with what you can find

i prefer a 4b pencil, i donno it makes it feel like you can just be sketchy, nothing has to be perfect
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 22, 2017, 12:44:09 AM
I have known about the different gradients of graphite leads for at least a solid decade, y'know...
Again, the problem is I've never actually gotten lead at a fancy shmancy art store that carries things other than, you know, HB or HB2. That's the issue here, not that I don't know about the grading system of the hardness and softness of lead.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: TK-Seki on June 22, 2017, 03:59:07 AM
My bad, my bad. Now I see why. It's a bit new to me since I can get the leads from 4B to H at any general supplies store. ^^; Limited to that range, though. If I have to look for more specialized stuff --- it's as you say, a fancier art store is likely where you could find them. Which we don't have, too. Haha. I had some of my stuff shipped in from private sellers online.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Shane on June 23, 2017, 02:09:37 AM
MA
LU
CHAN
WE
NEED
MORE
OF
YOU
AWESOME
DRAWING
.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 23, 2017, 12:22:42 PM
Actually lately I've been working on drawing letters. A friend of mine got me into the idea of graffiti style writing, and I figure letters are a good way to do some basic shape work and if I do those comic-book-y POP letters with the 3D, it might work for perspective and stuff. Other than that, I haven't really been doing much of anything.

Update: I did finally get around to posting something on EcchiWorld that I've had drawn for a while, though.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 23, 2017, 11:36:38 PM
Here we go. Since you asked, I went ahead and did the color thing you suggested to someone else (I think it was Vio) a while back. Some of the colors aren't true, since camera phones are utter crap, but I did the thing, and I surprised myself a little, especially with the glass of water. The river could use a little work, and maybe some on the rust, but most everything else looks pretty all right, with the exception of the lava maybe looking too uniform.

(http://i.imgur.com/m0LEapv.jpg)

Once again, something stupid is going on with my phone sending to Google drive and then uploading those to Photobucket after clipping down the size some. The scale is flipped and rotated for whatever reason, but the point here was more color than proportion anyway. The good news is that this one is more MR-appropriate than the thing I mentioned above.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Shane on June 24, 2017, 02:09:36 PM
BRAVOOOO

i ll give you the run down on this, The Primary colors is red yellow blue, but no matter how you put it together you can't make specific color that is "BLACK" "GOLD" "SILVER" "WHITE"

you can use these special 4 color to make object look shiny, for example if you add white to lava,the lava will look shiny,and because lava is so hot that it become heat source,any dark object close to lava will get the light source too,
SO lava is pretty much Black for rock ,2-3 kind of orange and little bit of yellow for heat, white for shiny
(http://i.imgur.com/pwoB5b4.jpg)

same with metal,you could add grey (mix by black and white),and add more white to make it silver and make metal shiny

rusty metal though is a bit tricky. you mix the lava and metal color but cut the "shiny" off (that mean no white
but still have grey)

now the hard part. grey and white not only use for shiny. but object with "transparent" element
(glass,glass of water,clear river)

:O the fact on draw "transparent" object is.....you add black color in it (it ll make sense once you try)

well right now you doing goo enough. keep it up MA-LU-CHAN.

Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 25, 2017, 07:35:42 PM
Thank you kindly. I think the glass of water looks amazing, personally. The glass itself looks wonky, but this was more a coloring exercise than a drawing shapes one. That aside, yeah, the lava could be a lot brighter, but I think that might also be my phone camera messing up, because it looks much more bright orange on my paper than it does on my screen. As far as the metal goes, normally I'd use my metallic colored pencil as a final layer to bring out more sheen, but I did limit myself to my hard, waxy, totally gross 36 pack of cheap colored pencils. I considered it a challenge, as if to tell myself, "Well, if you can do good work with poor quality materials, you're probably in the clear."

Maybe I'll try again sometime with my Prismacolors.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on June 28, 2017, 07:04:13 PM
You`re working on materials? Damn, respect Mahlua. And I loved the chairs for some reason. If you`re not careful you`ll end up becoming a legit art hermit who studies things across the board and levels up at ridiculous rates. Keep at it!

I`d seriously rage quit at the mere thought of trying to draw water.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 28, 2017, 07:23:17 PM
I`d seriously rage quit at the mere thought of trying to draw water.

Lol, up your game. Glass is the real b----. (To be fair, though, I had some trouble with water. Bleh. Good thing I've been using colored pencil for years and have gotten used to layering them.)

But yeah, I just figured I'd give something new a try. I'm glad someone likes the chairs, too. Maybe they look weird to me because I've seen them in person and they're a weird design. Anyway, over the next week, I might indeed become an art hermit if I don't go party because summer session one is over. Totally not procrastinating my finals tomorrow right now, by the way :sure:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on June 28, 2017, 07:36:15 PM
Exams on the weekend. Procrastinating in despair, join the club. But nothing as bad as finals.

Good luck on that front. And Summer? I don`t know if I want to hermit or party, but whichever way I`ll go I`ll take it to eleven if I can.

Hahahaa glass lel I quit.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 28, 2017, 07:41:17 PM
Hahahaa glass lel I quit.

Protip: use the lightest highlight color possible for whatever the environment is putting onto it, take a light grey (cool or warm, whatever the situation calls for) for shadows, and leave space when drawing what's inside to give the illusion that there's width to the glass. Or just make everyone drink out of wine plastic instead of wine glasses. That works too.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on June 28, 2017, 07:47:39 PM
Thanks for the tips sis. It looks like I need to get my hand on a bunch of colour pencils now.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 28, 2017, 07:50:54 PM
I use Prismacolor mostly these days, when I'm not using the hard, waxy, cheap, gross Kid Made Modern pencils. I mostly use them for messing around, like I did with those materials there. I'd imagine that it'd look very different if I did the exercise with good colored pencils. I'll try it sometime when finals aren't looming like the germs of the Black Plague over me.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on June 28, 2017, 08:10:46 PM
Ring-a-ring o' roses,
A pocket full of posies,
A-tishoo! A-tishoo!
We all fall down


Well, it looks like I have an excuse or my stationary buying addiciton now. Prismacolour for the win. Never even heard of KMM but I`ll avoid them now
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Nairbons on June 30, 2017, 01:26:03 AM
Can't go wrong with good old Crayola! Or whatever brand of colored pencils I use that were just borrowed from an old roommate 7 years ago and never returned. Oh, the laughs we had!

But onto a more serious subject: color is stupid and weird. Endless kudos to you for even picking up the pencils and putting the time in. Coloring books are one thing, but trying for texture is a whole 'nother sack of potatoes. Good luck, and keep at it!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Gabryel on June 30, 2017, 04:46:45 AM
lol I don't even know if I could colour ANYTHING with coloured pencils. Used to use Faber Castell Aquarel pencils so I could blend them later with water ... so you wouldn't see how bad it was XD But that's, dunno, 15 years ago? or 20? Ages. Oh god I'm old D-:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on June 30, 2017, 09:47:52 AM
I like the lava! Looks very hot  ;)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 30, 2017, 07:02:46 PM
Thanks, everyone. I wonder what would happen if I did the same thing with marker...Haha, first I'd probably actually need decent markers with variable pressure.

@Gabyrel I know the feel when I tell people I've been working with colored pencils for about a decade.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Shane on June 30, 2017, 07:23:53 PM
dafug malu-chan, 1 drawing from you 100 people comment.

i bet you can even more famous than Jackson Pollock himself
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 30, 2017, 07:32:07 PM
I sure didn't used to be. There was a good while where I was double-posting in here due to lack of responses. I have my ups and downs, and I have to say that I'm grateful for the community. The senpais have noticed me.

(It could also just be that I'm more talkative to begin with, so I do things that spur discussions, but y'know :sure: )
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: TK-Seki on June 30, 2017, 08:26:20 PM
Yuuuurgh. Glass and water are two things that test my patience. x____x Reflective surfaces though are pretty fun. :) Cut gemstones, though... T_____T
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 30, 2017, 08:34:49 PM
Hmm...maybe I should try gemstones and reflective surfaces as another challenge. Now that I'm officially on a break that'll only last about a week, maybe I can actually get around to posting things and have this actually be more of an art gallery than an art...pub?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 07, 2017, 06:19:19 PM
Update: It's not like I haven't been drawing, it's just that lately I've been doing some sketches on the back sides of pages in my sketchbook that were heavily used with marker, so that plus the fact that my sketches were made with a lighter pencil (my one 2H), there's not much of a reason to post them since I can't seem to get them to show up on my camera.

But seriously, I promise, I have been doing things.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Gabryel on July 08, 2017, 08:20:30 AM
I believe you.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on July 08, 2017, 03:54:14 PM
Then keep on keeping on. Never let that drawing bug go!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: TK-Seki on July 09, 2017, 10:10:15 PM
I'll look forward to your sketches, Mahlua~! :D Bit off the side, but who's guilty of scribbling on the backs of their notes and manuals? XD
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 10, 2017, 12:57:18 AM
So remember when I used to complain about how my tablet pen was broken for the longest time? Well, one of my partners recently upgraded from a Huion H420 tablet of like the smallest variety, and, well...

(http://i.imgur.com/WIOXs3N.png)

It has been entirely too long and I had to do hand-eye exercises for a bit to get readjusted, but I did this quick little doodle with MS Paint. It's not meant to be taken seriously, and I know some of the proportions are just way off. Said partner has also offered to procure a better software for me to put onto my laptop so maybe I can use something like, you know, layers and stuff, but for now at least I can do silly doodles.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: devola on July 10, 2017, 01:53:52 AM
Woo! Looking good! Can't wait to see more of your work! Now I can return the favor and give you some helpful feedback~ :dance:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: KeanFox on July 10, 2017, 03:55:57 PM
The green writing look Arabic  ;D
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Gabryel on July 10, 2017, 05:34:03 PM
Whoooooop welcome back Mahlua!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 16, 2017, 10:08:50 PM
Oh wow, after my tablet pen's battery died, I figured I'd also upload something traditional, and it just happened to be MRverse related. The writing along the side ways "With a sigh, I turn my head up / and realize--I am free". I don't think it's from anything in particular, but it seemed to fit. Reminds me of something I saw etched into the side of a toilet stall once.

Mind the bikini-wearing wireframe in the corner. I was just messing around with a body type and figured I'd ink it and give it some clothes...of a sort.


(http://i.imgur.com/jpBLbA9.jpg)

Mostly I'm impressed that I tried a sort of perspective thing at the bottom and it didn't absolutely flop like a sorry sack of s---.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Coryn on July 16, 2017, 10:32:22 PM
The perspective isn't bad at all. Though it is kinda confusing how exactly her hand is interacting with the paper.

You've definitely drawn her bustier than I've always imagined her though. The original design didn't have much going on so to speak.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 16, 2017, 10:35:35 PM
Yeah, that hand gave me hell, although changing the angle of the paper probably could've made it way more excusable :sure:

As for the bustiness, it was more accidental, really. I like how it turned out in the profile view with her body turned slightly more than her head, although I can see how in the front view and the perspective drawing they definitely look a little bigger. I guess I was going for the "mom friend" or "grumpy but actually cool librarian" vibe a little too hard.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: KeanFox on July 17, 2017, 01:38:40 AM
Good work. The chibi, the perspective and the big one look good. The bikini body is good, But feel like you run out of horizontal space so you squashed the head into the neck.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 17, 2017, 10:04:11 AM
Yeah, a little bit. I was originally going to leave it in the pencil (which hardly shows up on my camera phone), but I figured "why not?".

It's nice to see myself improving as far as perspective is concerned. I know for a fact that last year I probably wouldn't have been able to pull that off.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: eukocar on July 17, 2017, 10:13:32 AM
I know the pencil camera struggle.  You did an great job at keeping the lines Slim.
The amount of detail you added is amazing!
I wish i could do that with my pencil.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 17, 2017, 12:18:29 PM
The slim lines that actually show up are because I went over the pencil areas with a Staedtler .5mm pigment liner so that they could show up on my camera in the first place. I love them for inking and have a .1mm, a .3mm, two .5mms, a .7mm, and a .8mm. I also have some brush pens from the same company in shades of grey. They're great for moderately cheap materials.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Corycaly on July 17, 2017, 01:10:14 PM
Cute drawings! I love those pens (even if I prefer Mangastudio to ink drawings). Maybe you should use the 1mm pen to give more contrast to the lining. You can vary the largeness of the lines to give more dynamism.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 17, 2017, 01:16:59 PM
Thank ye. Line variability isn't something I've really given much thought to, since I grew up on ballpoints and pigment liners as opposed to say calligraphy pens or G-nibs and the like. I suppose it would add depth to my lineart, especially since I tend to rely so much on coloring to do that for me. I'll take it into consideration next time I'm out and about the art store.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Shane on July 17, 2017, 10:00:19 PM
cute handwrite.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 20, 2017, 01:02:26 AM
So, as some of you may be aware, I'm in college right now studying to be a teacher of high school English, which here in the states encompasses literature, poetry, writing, and critical analysis of those. However, as I'm sure most of you have noticed, I sometimes have the social grace of a bull in a china shop. I have a lot of anxiety regarding my future career, especially in the realm of dealing with parents who disagree with me or administrators who might not allow me to cover certain materials. I get some pretty stupid ideas in my head sometimes about all the ways I could be fired, and I want to run this by you guys.

What if I start making short comics about all the ways I'm afraid I could get myself fired? I've already shared a few ideas with my friends and they think some of my ideas are pretty funny, so I'll give some of my highlights in the spoiler below.


(TW: Some crude humor)
Enjoy anyway
In no particular order:
1. me: unironically calls an older teacher in my department "onee-sama" in a public space

2. me: thank you so much for letting me do stand-up at the talent show this year. i promise i won't let you guys down or completely embarrass the school
me, on stage: y'know, flat earthers amuse me. i went to college in boone, and i can tell you, the world ain't flat. at the very least it's gotta be like a wrinkly piece of paper. mountains are very much real

3. me: okay but consider the following: if you make faculty attendance at all PTA meetings mandatory, that means showing me off to the parents, and you're out of your mind if you think i'm going to wear this wig for another three hours. free the purple mohawk!

4. me: because nobody wants to read the eight books i had planned, we'll just read one book this semester. kids, hope you enjoy john irving!

5. me: but come on, if you're going to have a school dance, you should at least have competent DJs
me: no, it's not a flask. it's just gaterade

6. me: all right kids, let's talk about all the innuendos and dirty jokes in a midsummer night's dream

7. me: WHADAYA MEAN MY STUDDED LEATHER JACKET WITH TORN SLEEVES AND FANDOM BUTTONS IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR WORK

8. me: so what? a kid saw a part of my back tattoo. at least he didn't see the rest of it. then there would be real trouble
Keep in mind that these are exaggerated and satirized versions of myself. I'm not actually "that bad" per se, but there is definitely some unexplored potential in this form of comedy. Anyway, let me know if you guys want me to draw some of these out. Seems like it could be a fun project, and each one is pretty short, so it wouldn't be super stressful.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on July 20, 2017, 05:17:27 PM
I sort of missed the gaterade one haha, but the other ones are pretty much tailor made for 4 komas in one way or the other, ala Gabryel too or something where everything happens on one page. Easy to draw concepts with quick punchlines. You could have a life and times sort of thing going on for your character.

And yes. Leather jackets must be allowed at work darnit.  They're epic... (also expensive.)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on August 04, 2017, 12:32:18 PM
#4 was funny  :D

Yo, gatorade me bitch!  ;)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: devola on August 08, 2017, 03:05:38 AM
Thank you so much for all the advice you give every artist on the forum Mahlua. I really appreciate how real you keep your advice and how you always seem ready to offer help wherever you can. Here is a little something to show some appreciation in the only way I know how. (shout outs to Shane)

Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/DlG5lt9.jpg)
You are a well of great advice and information. You put a lot of thought into everything you write and I really appreciate it every time you've given me and every other aspiring artist on the forum advice. You and everyone else that has given feedback consistently is a big reason why I feel like I am constantly improving. Thanks for being awesome Mahlua, sorry if this looks nothing like you!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on August 08, 2017, 04:10:34 PM
@devola must admit that looks like (what i imagine) Mahlua looks like!

@mahluaandmilk that last page reminds of that ninja girl from Gintama!! awesome pose on the last one on the bottom of the page!

all the best in working toward your career
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on August 08, 2017, 11:02:10 PM
@Devola: I'd have to say that I would indeed wear that. I'm kind of internally screaming though, like, what, I have fanart now? What is this?
(http://www.makemommygosomethingsomething.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/reallife.gif)

I have to say, though, I'm happy to be a part of such a huge community of artists who can all do amazing things. Pretty soon I'll be getting a better art program than MSPaint (I believe it's called Krita) but before I download anything, I'm going to have a friend of mine in tech support update my antivirus program. Now that I'm moved in, though, there's a higher potential for art and possibly some prose writing coming out of me.

@Suuper: Thank you. The character is from MRverse, and interestingly, I don't think I've ever seen Gintama outside of like, memes and stuff. Funny how things can overlap like that.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on August 09, 2017, 12:44:44 AM
(Double post in one day, yeah, shoot me. This one's actually art.)

(http://i.imgur.com/S5FLVna.png)

I figured I'd post something doodly, and since I just moved in, I figured that would be the subject of a short comic. This actually happened to me. This is my life. Loki likes poptarts and other sweets. Because I'm a broke college kid, they're the perfect offering. I forgot what I did with them, though. Had one of those mini panic moments and then went "well, that'd make a pretty okay comic, I guess." I didn't feel like being fancy and outlining anything, though.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: devola on August 09, 2017, 01:15:56 AM
So what kind of Poptart does Loki get? Also can't wait to see some more of your stuff...
Spoiler
There is yuri that must be drawn

I also did some fan art for Gabe too, but I figured why stop there. It is honestly the least I can do to say thanks. I don't wanna exclude anyone so I got a brilliant idea to do something special for all of you guys... look forward to it soon!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on August 09, 2017, 01:26:36 AM
The last of his poptarts I have in the altar bag are red velvet flavored.

@that spoiler tag: Yeah, I'm trying to work on a short index card comic, actually...but that will probably wind up on Ecchiworld first, haha. It feels like ages since I've drawn yuri. I must remedy this.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Shane on August 10, 2017, 02:33:40 AM
I just notice something...since devola and me already draw you.....there is something.....
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Spoiler
YOU
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WEAR
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A
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glasses?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Branden on August 10, 2017, 02:34:32 AM
She usually does, but there are literal off-days for her.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on August 10, 2017, 12:03:55 PM
Yeah, truth be told, I'm pretty blind. I don't even know the numbers anymore, but when I first got glasses, my left eye was 20/70 and my right was 20/25. I've been told that my right eye has caught up and my vision has worsened by about double. It's due to astigmatism, although my mother will argue incessantly that it's because of the light from computer monitors.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Branden on August 10, 2017, 06:26:16 PM
#GlassesGroup
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: TK-Seki on August 12, 2017, 06:42:59 AM
I kinda wanna draw something for you too. XD -lurks- character suggestions? :)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Gabryel on August 12, 2017, 09:29:28 AM
Nice! I think it's actually the first time I see more than a sketch from you :D and also o/ glasses girl. Blind like a mole without glasses or lenses.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on August 12, 2017, 04:46:57 PM
@K-Seki: once I start to draw my characters more regularly (whenever that miracle happens), you're free to draw any of them that you like.

@Gabryel: Yeah, I've been meaning to do more lately, but life is weird, especially when your friends know you're not in school and they don't even ask and you just get a text that says "We're outside. Come get food." that starts an adventure that goes from BBQ to a tourist attraction to a heritage museum to the library to a Mexican restaurant and then to another friend's apartment so she can make tea to soothe your stomach because you just ate BBQ and Mexican food in the same day.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on August 12, 2017, 05:48:15 PM
Yay, update, this time with an ever-elusive Mahlua art. This is my basic design for the rp someone is trying to start up here.

(http://i.imgur.com/5VsvCZn.png)

It took me forever to do the pixel shading. Bluh. It doesn't look too terrible, though, so I'll probably do it again when I get around to doing the other arts I've been meaning to do.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on August 12, 2017, 05:52:11 PM
Goshdarnit teach me your ways. The way I'd feel set being able to colour like tis and make coherent art. I rarely comment on it but your expressions are also pretty interesting. Really like how my mind automatically recognizes every texture from hair to metal to cloth without any issues. Great stuff Mahlua!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on August 12, 2017, 05:59:02 PM
Fill bucket is your friend. Use the pencil tool to set out where you want it to go, in portions at a time. As for the expression, yeah, part of my general idea for this character is "grump." I couldn't think of a good name for her, so I basically named her the same as my physical embodiment of wrath. It means "little fiery one". For me, the main focus here was getting a good lighting after I got my base colors down. Once I figured out generally where I wanted it, filling in the shading was just a slightly frustrating and lengthy process of trying stuff and constantly zooming to 50% to figure out what looks right and what doesn't.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on August 12, 2017, 06:06:30 PM
You followed mspa by any chance? Sort of an after-the-fact inspiration for me, but I'm always amazed at the lighting effects taht that webcomic/webexistence could achieve with pixel art.

The whole grump thing works. Can barely look at her in the face haha. Pretty intimidating.

I've been looking into printing mspaint stuff, been having horrible results. I was a-wondering if you'd be willing to try that on your end? Trust me, it's for good reasons!

But yeah, looking forward to more of your stuff
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on August 12, 2017, 06:12:35 PM
I mean I have a bunch of Homestuck related fanart towards the front of this thread, and the entirety of my main Skype group all met because of a group rp on the old MSPARP site. My current nickname which is used in place of my given name is a diminutive of a Homestuck character's name. I might have followed MicroSoftPaintAdventures.

To print in color here costs fifty cents a page. I don't think it's worth the attempt at the moment, at least until I can afford things like that without thinking about how many quarters I need for laundry.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on August 12, 2017, 06:20:58 PM
Komenasai. I am a zwas and do not understand things unless they are explained to me.

(Daaaamn I totally missed that )

Ah, roger roger. If it helps at all I bought a printer/scanner... it was an inkjet printer... That quit after printing 180 pages... When he ink was empty it refused to scan anything. I ragequit. I failed at printing forever. Lel case closed.

Are you working with mouse or tablet?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on August 12, 2017, 06:23:12 PM
Tablet, ofc. I don't exactly have a mouse, but I do have a trackpad, and those are almost harder to deal with than a mouse.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Branden on August 12, 2017, 06:34:24 PM
I'd take a tablet/pen over a trackpad any day. Trackpads are the worst.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on August 12, 2017, 06:58:41 PM
Trackpads are death. Damn I haven't touched those in how long. The funny thing is that I've always been fascinated by how they work haha.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: devola on August 12, 2017, 08:53:27 PM
The shading still looks quite good. Every time I try to shade anything I always get my light sources muddled then it just ends up looking confused. And that is one excellent resting bitch face. Very grumpy, I love it. Looking forward to seeing more stuff from you now that you've got time to draw.

Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on August 12, 2017, 10:10:22 PM
Too much time, it seems. I just threw on some Type O Negative, and next thing you know, I'm drawing one of my old favorite OCs. She's quite a piece of work. And, just for Lego, I saved my sketch phases.

Phase 1: the sketchy sketch:
(http://i.imgur.com/VZ0ZXdM.png)

Pretty self explanatory. I take the pencil tool in MSPaint and just have at it. The torso looked so good before I tacked arms onto the pose. I hate when that happens. The background came too easily listening to goth rock, but you can see the beginnings of a lot of my anatomy problems here.

Phase 2: figure out an outline, maybe:
(http://i.imgur.com/Tt5T8Sg.png)

This is where I try to lay down what exactly I want the outline to do. I still have a little bit of sketchiness going on here, and usually I'd get rid of it, but I honestly was just jamming and messing around for this piece, so you won't see an actual outline for this one. After I'm done, I'll take the fill bucket and go around with the lighter grey I did the initial sketch phase with so it's all picked up, then switch the fill bucket to white to get rid of all the sketch lines. After repeating the process a few times, you can see how that works pretty well. Shane has pointed out to me in Skype that the direction the ear is facing is incorrect.

Phase 3: fill bucket some base color:
(http://i.imgur.com/Pw9E9PA.png)

I'm sure you can imagine that if I had an actual outline, this would look much prettier. I mess around with the color mixer a lot, and I wanted to see what I could do for a sort of moonlit color, so I took some base colors in the palette and dragged them closer to grey and on the slider scale I pulled them closer to black. I did this for all except the skin tone, which I started with grey and pulled upwards towards red a little, and that was it.

After this, I'd usually go in for a darker/cooler color for shading and a lighter color for highlights (in this case, probably blue-based, for moonlight purposes), buuuut I don't really care to go past this for now. I just wanted to doodle her since I haven't in forever. If you scroll back through my gallery far enough, you'll see her around quite a bit.

Her name's Mizzie, btw. Mizzie Kristofer. As for her being shirtless in the moonlight, well--I'm not showing anything explicit, so it totally doesn't count. The out-of-frame hand is probably holding a cigarette tbh. Since I don't consider this a sexualized image (I honestly just didn't want to draw her jacket and liked my sketchlines for her hips and spine), I hope that y'all agree that it's more of a chillaxed setting.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Rusted_Gear on August 12, 2017, 10:28:54 PM
Oh geez, just thinking about drawing something in ms paint gives me the shivers. Kudos to you for being able to use it for your artwork. Your latest project at first glance gave me a sephiroth with black hair kind of vibe. Neat stuff =U

https://www.fightersgeneration.com/nx4/char/sephiroth-shirtless.jpg
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on August 12, 2017, 10:32:26 PM
Thank you. MS Paint isn't all that bad, really. You just can't rely on layers. In that sense, it's kind of a lot like traditional art.

(She'd be pleased with the comparison.)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: devola on August 12, 2017, 10:40:50 PM
CROSSES. +++++ The cross earring is something I've done on my characters recently as well. It looks good on your OC. If I find any excuse to throw crosses somewhere, chances are I will. Not even for religious reasons, the cross is a really aesthetically pleasing symbol to me for some reason. Your character also reminds me of Rin from Mnemosyne for some reason, can't really point out why. Maybe it's the haircut.

Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on August 12, 2017, 11:09:18 PM
I could not express my feelings in anything but comic form.

(http://i.imgur.com/C5x513H.png)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Shane on August 14, 2017, 11:56:28 PM
hey i just saw edana, the way you color look very good so far!!!!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on August 17, 2017, 02:15:11 PM
Looks great. Her back is a little weird. I would say I love her earings but I am the devil  ;)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on November 25, 2017, 03:13:30 PM
Finally bit the bullet and downloaded Krita, also known as an art program that ISN'T MSPaint...


OwO WHAT'S THIS???
(https://i.imgur.com/Je7foQu.png?1)

I'll have to set aside a day to fully mess around with all the brushes and layer effects, which will more than likely be over winter break since I mostly did this doodle to let my brain relax between sources I'm looking at for a research term paper and bluh. For now--hey, look guys! Mahlua still exists!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on November 26, 2017, 11:41:25 AM
It seems she does! It's hard to see it is your without those bright yellow texts of yours. School has been a son of a gun, huh'?

Oh, Krita is good. Lot's of flow. If I change programs it'd be one to consider.

I'll stick by my exuses lel lel lel

Like the colours you worked with there, and that little comic haha. Welcome back !


Too much time, it seems. I just threw on some Type O Negative, and next thing you know, I'm drawing one of my old favorite OCs. She's quite a piece of work. And, just for Lego, I saved my sketch phases.

Phase 1: the sketchy sketch:
(http://i.imgur.com/VZ0ZXdM.png)

Pretty self explanatory. I take the pencil tool in MSPaint and just have at it. The torso looked so good before I tacked arms onto the pose. I hate when that happens. The background came too easily listening to goth rock, but you can see the beginnings of a lot of my anatomy problems here.

Phase 2: figure out an outline, maybe:
(http://i.imgur.com/Tt5T8Sg.png)

This is where I try to lay down what exactly I want the outline to do. I still have a little bit of sketchiness going on here, and usually I'd get rid of it, but I honestly was just jamming and messing around for this piece, so you won't see an actual outline for this one. After I'm done, I'll take the fill bucket and go around with the lighter grey I did the initial sketch phase with so it's all picked up, then switch the fill bucket to white to get rid of all the sketch lines. After repeating the process a few times, you can see how that works pretty well. Shane has pointed out to me in Skype that the direction the ear is facing is incorrect.

Phase 3: fill bucket some base color:
(http://i.imgur.com/Pw9E9PA.png)

I'm sure you can imagine that if I had an actual outline, this would look much prettier. I mess around with the color mixer a lot, and I wanted to see what I could do for a sort of moonlit color, so I took some base colors in the palette and dragged them closer to grey and on the slider scale I pulled them closer to black. I did this for all except the skin tone, which I started with grey and pulled upwards towards red a little, and that was it.

After this, I'd usually go in for a darker/cooler color for shading and a lighter color for highlights (in this case, probably blue-based, for moonlight purposes), buuuut I don't really care to go past this for now. I just wanted to doodle her since I haven't in forever. If you scroll back through my gallery far enough, you'll see her around quite a bit.

Her name's Mizzie, btw. Mizzie Kristofer. As for her being shirtless in the moonlight, well--I'm not showing anything explicit, so it totally doesn't count. The out-of-frame hand is probably holding a cigarette tbh. Since I don't consider this a sexualized image (I honestly just didn't want to draw her jacket and liked my sketchlines for her hips and spine), I hope that y'all agree that it's more of a chillaxed setting.


Also... Muchos appreciatas. This'll come in handy. I'll see what I can come up with soonish along these guidelines.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on November 26, 2017, 03:22:20 PM
Not a problem, man. Yeah, school's been kicking my butt lately, but hopefully sometime next month I'll be back enough to spend my time with my writing and my art, or else I'll be reading the entire collected works of Edgar Allan Poe.

Mostly this week, I'm probably gonna focus on preparing for my finals and finishing my chapter in our little secret-y project.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on November 26, 2017, 03:46:22 PM
Yikes, didn't he like, write a lot of dark stuff? Once upon a midnight dreary, Mahlua became a little scary as she read much Poe, the gods only know, how far that rabbit hole goes...

Ah, right. I still haven't touched that in centuries. Been out of it way too long haha.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on November 26, 2017, 04:24:36 PM
Good thing I haven't quite finished my chapter, topkek. You can still look through it--one of the three segments is complete and you can start forming ideas about where to take that one.

In the meantime, I'm messing around on Krita and doodling my DnD character--she's a Kenku trickster occultist. Here's how that sketch is going:


dis mah birb
(https://i.imgur.com/pzV1u05.png)

linart WIP
(https://i.imgur.com/RQScN5d.png)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on November 27, 2017, 08:05:53 AM
that is a pretty good sketch. i love bow and arrow poses, you can feel the tension :P
i had a glance back through your previous posts and this is one of your neatest linearts :P
i think the bent shoulder is a bit off but i cant say why (useful i know :P)
I'm wondering why the lineart is WIP though it looks finished? oh you mean you'll colour it as well? looking forward to it :P
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: KeanFox on November 27, 2017, 10:00:07 AM
Cool character design. good lineart :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on November 27, 2017, 10:58:05 AM
Yeah the shoulder has been bothering me, too. I'm just too lazy to go back and change it now. As for the lineart, pssh. I had so much trouble with it, honestly. I guess I'm just not used to tablets because I could not get line consistency for the life of me, and the wobble game is real. I hate the entirety of the bow's outline...but yes, I'm in the process of coloring it, and hopefully that will cover for some of the ick.

It's just been a long while since I've even had a program that isn't MSPaint, so I guess it makes sense that I'm still trying to get used to it.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on November 27, 2017, 04:27:05 PM
i know the feeling. it took me ages to get used to using a tablet and new softwares. I'm sure you'll get the hang of it :P
regarding wobble on tablets, sometimes the simplest solution is the easiest: try zooming in more on your work, so when you wobble, it affects your design less. sometimes i admit i do the exact opposite so it may or may not work but its worth a shot :P
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: KeanFox on November 27, 2017, 05:01:41 PM
Whats your new tablet? the wobble lines can be a driver problem sometimes.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on November 27, 2017, 05:25:03 PM
It's a Huion. Tiny little thing.

I also have the base colors down on the WIP now, but it's still a bit of a hot mess. Black birds are hard to get the colors right for, since the feathers tend to be a warmer black than the beak and legs.



WIP
(https://i.imgur.com/5jms4Fl.png)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on November 29, 2017, 02:36:02 PM
i once had a tablet with an A6 active area. cheapest thing i bought ever but it started me down the digital path. I'm keeping it to see if once i get good i can use it to do good art :P

cool colouring, its nice how you have the main colours for the objects but also have the highlights in the other objects, it breaks them up, makes them interesting, but also helps them to all match each other. i might try this!

true about making black feathers. its very hard to shade and colour "black" objects well because they are not actually black :P as you well noted, there are different warmths of black, even in the same object :/
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on November 29, 2017, 07:31:59 PM
Pretty cool drawing there Mahlua! I dare say you definitely need to keep on going down this path. Cool and interesting design, nice perspective!

Keep at it! 

He seriously looks like he's ready to kill a couple of folks tho...
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: fcollot on December 02, 2017, 08:27:40 AM
Nice work Malhua :). About the wobbling, I know the problem too. It's not easy getting used to the tablet, and certain angles are especially problematic for me (I've just bought a screen tablet so I'm hoping that'll help). I found a solution though. For natural objects, or anything that doesn't have perfect curves or straight lines, I draw using the normal tools by hand, and the wobbling gives "life" to them. On the other hand, when I need perfect lines I use GIMP's path tool. It makes man-made objects look more realistic and they stand out as being "different" than the natural objects.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: fcollot on December 02, 2017, 08:30:56 AM
Also I probably redraw most lines at least 3-4 times until I'm satisfied with it. The undo function is my primary tool ;-).
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: KeanFox on December 02, 2017, 11:05:38 AM
@fcollot if you can draw straight lines with traditional art but wobbling lines on the tablet. Probably the problem with the tablet. Look online if someone else having the same problem with your type of tablet and if they found a fix. Sometimes it's just a getting the latest driver.
If the tablet screen is too smooth for you and making you wobble. A screen protector might help to make the tablet feel like paper, some tablet comes with it.

Some drawing software has a line stabilize tool or get a software that stabilizes your lines.
Here example.
https://hejstylus.com/
I know nothing about this program. Do the research before getting anything.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: fcollot on December 02, 2017, 01:54:49 PM
The tablet is not the problem because the line is replicating the exact movement I'm making. The problem is the hand-eye coordination with the tablet and the PC screen (the wobbling I'm talking was with a traditional tablet, not a screen tablet). I can do nice straight or curved lines but I have trouble doing the exact line I want so I try to adapt as I see the line being drawn on the PC screen and it ends up wobbly. It's not really wobbly, just not quite curvy as I want it, so I redraw until I get what I want.

I'm tried GIMPs smooth option but it makes the head of the line lag slightly behind the actual cursor position (again this is not a tablet issue put how GIMP works, as it does the same with the mouse). Also I don't think auto-smoothing is a good idea I won't progress with it (although now that I've got a screen tablet I suppose that won't be an issue anymore).
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Killer B !!SAMA!! on December 04, 2017, 10:04:20 PM
Nc progress there dude
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on December 09, 2017, 05:50:40 PM
Quite an interesting character that archer bird  ;)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 15, 2017, 08:55:18 PM
Yeah, sadly I don't think I'll be finishing her with much shading, so she may be left there with the flat color for a good long while. I have other projects I aspire to create over break, and I want to work more with my new art program to figure out all its brushes and layering and stuff.

I think a lot of what I'll be doing is fundamental work. I've been inspired by our own SlamJam to go back and study the value of values (see what I did there?) and will start implementing that into my work. I used to think that I was pretty decent at coloring, until I had a look at his techniques. He's a super skilled dude. There's also Gabyrel, whose art has been an excellent inspiration to me.

I'm not sure how much I can realistically get done over the course of a month, but I guess we'll see, starting tomorrow.

As for the wobble argument, at this point I can't tell yet if it's to do with my tablet or my hands--or possibly my USB port, as all of mine on this computer give me trouble and from time to time they don't like, hold the programming solid. Like, my USB headset glitches a lot too, and sometimes my flash drives will be there one moment and flicker off and back on. I'm hoping to be getting another new computer soon, so maybe (and hopefully) that will resolve some of the issues. Thank you all for your suggestions, and I will keep them in mind when I do that transfer.

Keep on being awesome, MR.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 16, 2017, 08:03:52 PM
Hey hey, so I've been on lesson one from drawabox (http://www.drawabox.com/) all day, and this is my result on the first part of the first lesson, which starts with superimposing over a straight line, which I used lined paper for my basis (cheater--!), and the second on ghosting, or drawing a line above the paper before setting the pen down to make a mark, and the third on using ghosting to draw planes and bisecting them to find the center cross.

I put it all under the spoiler, and I've edited this like three times so whoops. I'll start posting about the ellipses and boxes tomorrow in another post, though.




(https://i.imgur.com/jKz4b67.jpg?2)

(https://i.imgur.com/6B3mYEF.jpg?1)
I don't think the point of this assignment was to make a geometric fustercluck abyss, but oh well~

(https://i.imgur.com/nc2O9qa.jpg?2)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Killer B !!SAMA!! on December 17, 2017, 05:53:16 AM
What is that red thing on first page is it blood?
Btw keep it up men looking nc there
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 17, 2017, 01:12:52 PM
Nah. There was the start of a comic on the other side, and it's just where the marker bled through a little.

Here are the exercises that I worked on and finished last night before going to bed. Hopefully I'll get a few more pages of two and one point perspective done today.




Hey, look--I can draw straight-ish lines now!
(https://i.imgur.com/fKTUNJ1.jpg?1)

Practice with circles and ellipses.
(https://i.imgur.com/zyYdtXA.jpg?1)

Putting ellipses into planes and messing around with 3d funnels/spirals.
(https://i.imgur.com/0bCKb5s.jpg?2)

2 point perspective on boxes. Note that I don't actually have a ruler around this house, so I used the ghosting techniques from the second part of the first lesson to get this done.
(https://i.imgur.com/J39G4iE.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 17, 2017, 04:36:29 PM
*Bump*
I happen to be drawing one satyr boi for the rp session that appears to be starting up. Still working on a few things in the sketch phase, but here's your little sneak peek:


Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/Rd3TJt4.png)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MK on December 17, 2017, 04:44:22 PM
*Bump*
I happen to be drawing one satyr boi for the rp session that appears to be starting up. Still working on a few things in the sketch phase, but here's your little sneak peek:


Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/Rd3TJt4.png)
Where dem hooves at?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 17, 2017, 04:51:24 PM
I started drawing the body and it was too large for the canvas, and I'm too lazy to shrink it.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: GreenTrap on December 17, 2017, 05:10:14 PM
When you said satyr, I imagined the Danny Devito character in Hercules  :ohmy: Cant wait to see this groovy goat guy take part in the apocalyptic Crucible!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 18, 2017, 12:46:57 AM
This only took forever. Here we have my satyr with a nice layer of base color to him. I'll try to see if I can do the shading and stuff tomorrow. I'm still new with this program, so all that shading and hoopla should be a trip and a half.

Also, while I was drawing this, my friend decided to bombard me with eggplant and hand holding eggplant emojis so I also provided an nsfw lineart in the spoiler within the spoiler as a link, in case anyone else is interested. I'm not judgin', but it was frustrating to quell that thirsty lot.




(https://i.imgur.com/IuMduix.jpg?1)
NSFW LINEART
Srsly don't get me in trouble for clicking this when I warned you and buried it down like this.
https://imgur.com/frNRsU0 (https://imgur.com/frNRsU0)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on December 19, 2017, 06:04:00 AM
Ah Mahlua has started down the magnificent journey of drawabox I see. Keep at it. Looking good there!

That Satyr drawing proves you're really free in your element now. paint was prolly a really bad idea haha. I feel I haven't seen colouring from you in a while.

I suspect I've seen that nsfw in ecchiworld already so I'm good thanks. Your friend circle though, I have several questions.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 19, 2017, 02:08:37 PM
Your friend circle though, I have several questions.

They got too much dirt on me. I can't judge 'em for something this small--especially not with some of the stupid things I've said in group calls when I'd been half asleep...but, you should know that, given some of the podcasts we've been on and shared.

But yes, drawabox. I'm having a pretty good time. I forgot to post my stuff from yesterday, so here's that:




(https://i.imgur.com/2sGnWMR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Xch3wzM.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 20, 2017, 06:56:30 PM
Since I wasn't feeling too well yesterday, I didn't do much. But, today, I tried the rotated box exercise again and made myself dizzy somehow, so the bottom right sucks because my balance was thrown off and bleh, but I now understand the basic premise of what's going on with it at least. Then I tried two pages worth of organic boxes going along a loose line. I think I was supposed to make just cubes, but that's boring, so most of what you get here is rectangular prisms. Hey, it's still focusing on perspective, right?

I've also noticed an interesting habit--I don't always connect my endpoints? Like, for some reason I tend to stop my lines short? :noidea:




(https://i.imgur.com/JDX1l9z.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mgzETCa.jpg?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/EPs3qUp.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Santa's Little Fro Elf on December 20, 2017, 09:59:55 PM
Didn't know you were an artist on here as well.  To be good at both is definitely a difficult feat to accomplish. So to that, I tip my hair pick to you, since my afro doesn't permit me to wear hats.

I skimmed through as much as I could, and from what I've seen so far you definitely got some good stuff. I could tell you were improving slightly with each drawing as time went on. I don't hang around the artist section like I used to, but I'll be sure to be on the lookout for your future drawings. Keep it up!

Side Note: Your most recent sketch reminds me of the fact that I have a habit drawing three dimensional cubes whenever I'm bored with a piece of paper in front of me. Don't know why, just something random I partake in.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 20, 2017, 11:15:49 PM
Ah, I'm honored to make you feel like you want to come lurk in the artists' section a little longer!

Yeah, progress is a slow and steady mistress. I'm glad I found an online lesson thing that focuses so much on fundamentals. It's really helping me out. One of these days over break I'm gonna probably go back to drawing people--my usual subject. Or maybe I'll try my hand at drawing backgrounds? Who knows? I've kinda wanted to draw backgrounds for some time, and it would probably be a neat way to fiddle around with my new art program's brushes...

Also img dump from the past few hours, I guess:




(https://i.imgur.com/Sm5qu4W.jpg?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/I2KjEJl.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on December 21, 2017, 06:13:03 PM
Soul eater's medusa. Gawd I hated that lady. Also she was strangely hot.

And I can understand the f bombs at the 3d. That is some insane perspective there. It's working out though! Pretty cool to see you at this practice.

That last image is defeating me on so many levels. Cross sections oh my word. Good stuff Mahlua!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 21, 2017, 06:23:20 PM
Yo there's a lot I'd say about Soul Eater's Medusa but this is a PG-13 recommended forum, soooo~ :sure:

But yeah, today I've been mostly focusing on getting a sketch together for Devola's Christmas present. Anatomy and posing two people interacting is hard. Hopefully by the end of the week I'll have some stuff on contouring to show you guys. I thought I had it down, but thanks to the group in the Discord, I see where I was going wrong in some places--so I'll be cleaning that up.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Killer B !!SAMA!! on December 22, 2017, 06:43:48 PM
Yo men good works so far  ;D
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on December 25, 2017, 01:22:04 PM
Those boxes look very good! Mery christmas  :santa:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Manimal Claus on December 25, 2017, 02:11:41 PM
Studies are looking good, all those boxes and everything. Even if they are boring in concept, you have drawn them well! Cool texture things are cool also.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 04, 2018, 11:51:59 PM
Whoops I was gonna keep drawing boxes but instead I finished drawing a certain Satyr Boy for the upcoming RP going on. I guess I'll go post this there after this, too.

AND HIS NAME SHALL BE
FARAMUND
(https://i.imgur.com/HJvGMID.jpg)
lol how tf do signatures

I have another project I wanna finish up, and then I said I'd draw all my friends as tarot cards so blep, probably gonna be nose to the grindstone getting that done before going back to uni so I at least have some of them ready.

In the meantime I'd also like to do like, pages of pose studies, which should be easy enough, I'd think.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: fcollot on January 05, 2018, 06:05:21 AM
Nice texture and color there. He looks great. Just a thought: in that environment, the orange ambient light would have a big impact on all surfaces. It works well for most of the colours you've used except the white parts. They should probably have some faint orange tint added to them (just like white is actually very light blue on a normal cloudless day).
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Ren-chan on January 05, 2018, 08:02:23 AM
Hehehe...why is he fully standing down there lmao. Anyways cool satyr.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 05, 2018, 02:36:48 PM
Yeah, I guess I did kinda gloss over the whitish parts and missed an opportunity to add some orangey glow to them. It's also been pointed out that the local value for the character and the background, due to the orangey-ness overall, is probably way too similar. I guess that's what I get for slapping a background in with three layers of scribbling around, lol. I'll have to be more mindful of that next time.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 06, 2018, 05:15:06 PM
Finally getting around to doing that thing I promised my friends. I'm going to go through my small list of close friends and draw them as a tarot card that I associate them with.

This will be the first in my series--and it's actually MR user FlyingFoxArt. They haven't been online in a while though.


lineart
version
(https://i.imgur.com/QdvWRrW.jpg?1)

color
version
(https://i.imgur.com/i0zycqN.jpg?1)

Marker paper makes such a huge difference. They happened to be the person who gave me a new set of Copics and some marker paper in the first place--go figure it turned out so well XD
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Santa's Little Fro Elf on January 06, 2018, 08:27:51 PM
Man this is actually really dope. I was studying the tarot cards for a good while (Mainly the Major Arcana) and I've always wanted to dive deeper into tarotology, but they were so many layers to it that seemed kinda overwhelming, so I eventually lost interest. I might get back into it eventually though.

But tangent aside, I can't wait to see the rest of these. Will you be doing the entire 22 major arcana set Lua? Or just the ones you associate your friends with?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 06, 2018, 10:07:09 PM
Mostly just the ones for myself and my friends, which is hardly half of the Major Arcana I don't think. Lol, I don't think I have enough friends to fill the Major Arcana in the first place, blep.

Anyway, I debated with myself a while about posting this here since it was mostly spur of the moment doodling that started with my four furry/anthro characters. The other two wound up looking like garbage so I cropped them out and did a quick color splash on these two. One on the left is a hedgehog with a deathhawk and is supposed to mostly be my main 'sona, (I don't have a single fursuit yet (not even a partial--although my friend is going to help me with that)) and her name is Ronnie or Rayner Robinson. I'm thinking that Rayner would be more of a nickname. Whatevs. The one on the right is Daniel Wade. He's a wallaby with badger-ish coloration who likes games and fixing things. I can't get into his character without slipping into an Aussie accent for some reason???


(https://i.imgur.com/uMHBuHK.png)

But yes, there you have it, my loser furry side has been revealed officially. For the record the other two are a German Shepherd with one ear forever floppy and the other is a tiger/fox/snake hybrid--tiger head, fox coloration limbs, and snake scale spine/tail.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Killer B !!SAMA!! on January 07, 2018, 12:28:23 AM
cool stuff meen i just noticed the fools right foot twisted looking forward to your tarot cards ;)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 07, 2018, 02:35:57 PM
Yeah, I'm working on the tarot, and probably will be for a while. I'm still in the sketch phase before I move this to marker paper. I'll fill up a sketchbook trying to get this pose right if I have to.

Now, before viewing this one, I have to say that even in real life this friend's body proportions aren't common. Her shoulders droop a very particular way and she has a ridiculously thin waist despite her other curves. All that in about 160cm of height. Mostly I'm hoping to get the limbs to look right. I should probably just use a reference, blep.


high priestess
sketch version
(https://i.imgur.com/OsXr9Tb.jpg?1)

I do know to make the hip a little wider on the viewer's right side (next to the "so below" hand). Other than that, I'm open to redlining/critiques.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Santa's Little Fro Elf on January 07, 2018, 07:44:14 PM
Those are pretty odd proportions from what you described, but overall I think the sketch turned out pretty good. I guess her left thumb looks a little off compared to the other one? Just a feeling I got from looking at it. Then again, that's just me nitpicking to be somewhat helpful, since I have no idea how to properly critique art lol.

What's that line curving behind her, though? Is that like a placeholder for some sort of veil covering her? I know that the original high priestess cards have veils hanging over them in their imagery, which is why I asked. 
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 07, 2018, 07:55:22 PM
Yeah, I'm on the third redraw of the pose. I've been trying to work out proportions on her. There are still a couple of things in the last one that I'd like to adjust before moving on, mostly the head/face and exactly how the bewbs fall, but here we are. I apologize for the blurriness

high priestess
final??? sketch
(https://i.imgur.com/Hjx1dt7.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Santa's Little Fro Elf on January 07, 2018, 08:06:49 PM
Ah, looks great and definitely more refined. I'm really digging the necklace around her neck. Dope stuff stuff indeed.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 07, 2018, 08:34:28 PM
Hopefully it doesn't look like kindergarten crayon scribble when I redraw the pose onto marker paper. I didn't even buy the marker paper sketchbooks I have--they were a gift--but I still would feel horrible messing up on them. It just feels so FANCY(tm).
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: SaiHawkeye on January 08, 2018, 03:32:05 AM
I think the upper body and the lower body have a disconnect in posture. I'd say maybe a shift in angle and perspective might help out? It can simplify the drawing if you had a straight frontal shot or a 3/4 profile.

(http://saihawkeye.com/saihawkeye/mangaraiders/sitting.jpg)

I'd still say make two different poses. Go for the religious close-up bust of the pose you have now and maybe a completely seperate pose for showing the body.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 08, 2018, 03:35:43 AM
Ah, yeah, I never thought about just changing the angle. Blep.

Shame I already laid down the first layer of ink on the marker paper. Solutions still appreciated for next time, though!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: SaiHawkeye on January 08, 2018, 03:44:32 AM
No problem!

I just remember from a tip from an old How the Draw Manga book. Although they're pretty dated and not exactly the best advice out there, they do have some pretty good hints.

In their Drawing/Designing Video Game Characters book they mention drawing characters in poses that are simple but still convey a meaning. For example, if you're drawing a character just standing there, make sure you show off their weapon in some meaningful way. Also the poses were kept in simple shapes to help the details stand out more.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 08, 2018, 03:47:31 AM
Yeh, that's all pretty basic stuff on keeping a pose looking fresh and dynamic.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 10, 2018, 03:00:01 AM
Took a break to do some other practices, but here's what wound up happening with my High Priestess:

lineart
version
(https://i.imgur.com/ed1esHf.jpg)

color
version
(https://i.imgur.com/dvTN8Yd.jpg)

Hurray for wobbly lines and inconsistent ellipses. I officially declare lighthouses to be my new mortal enemy of drawing.

The colors look a lot better in person (stupid phone camera flash) and I'm sure she'll still appreciate the gift, but ehhhh I'm so happy that this is just done now.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: devola on January 10, 2018, 05:56:16 AM
Wooooo art! You gonna be doing a card for all the arcanas or just all your friends? Too bad you can't post those studies/practices here, because you did fantastic stuff today, keep it up!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Killer B !!SAMA!! on January 10, 2018, 09:03:46 AM
I think if its a 3/4 view shes showing a lot of her left legs and butt i think u did a great job on it  ;D
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 10, 2018, 01:46:12 PM
@dev: I'm just going to be doing them for myself and my friends. I don't have nearly enough friends to even suit up just the major arcana. :sure:

Don't worry about the other practice. It got posted elsewhere.

@Killer B: Yeah, I tried sketching the same pose over and over until it almost started to look right, and then I transferred over to marker paper, which is quite unforgiving with erasing and pencil pressure. I could never get the pose to turn out how I wanted it to, so I eventually threw my hands up and said "Well, I need to get this piece done whether it looks fantastic or not."

Sometimes you learn more by just pushing through than scrutinizing every detail. Seeing it all together in the final piece helps me recognize what I can fix if I tried it again.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 10, 2018, 05:08:58 PM
Christ, I'm over 2000 posts now. Guess I missed when that happened. Oh well.

And now, for something completely different: anthros. Or furries. Whatever you wanna call 'em.

I'm working on one of my characters and I started by just filling up a sketchbook page of drawing the faces of German Shepherds from photos on Google, and now I'm on the designing phases. What do you guys think--should I continue to post this kinda thing here, since there does seem to be an overlap with the anime/manga community and the furry community?


Bruce
Sketch ver
(https://i.imgur.com/nVvAc6Y.png)

Bruce
Lineart
(https://i.imgur.com/JgEavBI.png)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Killer B !!SAMA!! on January 10, 2018, 09:59:27 PM
its ok to post furry stuff as long as its on the manga art gallery section haha its kinda cute hha u can draw a dog even i cant draw a dog hha
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 11, 2018, 12:31:02 AM
Actually I found drawing dogs a little easier than drawing people? I think it's because with anthro characters you can get away with bending anatomy a little, like with digitigrade and unguligrade legs. Also I can cut corners with elbows and stuff by replacing with fur fluff. #Cheating

Anyway, da gud boi is finished now (even if some parts are a little lazily colored) :


HERE'S
BRUCEY
(https://i.imgur.com/yhCWKc4.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: KeanFox on January 11, 2018, 01:16:47 AM
Good work :thumbsup:

Not all anthros furry
Spoiler
(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/apoooN9_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Forlorn Serpent on January 11, 2018, 01:23:35 AM
You just got checked!!!

To be honest, i call dragons furries. Maybe I need to talk to my HR rep.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 11, 2018, 02:44:14 AM
Technically dragons and such fall under the "scaley" category, which is just a subcategory of furry.

@Kean: still a cat, therefore still an anthropomorphized animal, therefore still under the furry umbrella. (Double pistols and a wink).

But then again the definition I go by for furry is "Any character that is an anthropomorphized animal." Some people make fursuits for bone creatures, and they still fall under the umbrella as well. Those tend to look badass, actually.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Santa's Little Fro Elf on January 11, 2018, 10:08:09 AM
Could never really get into the furry genre. Not that I dislike like it or anything of course.

But good art is good art and Brucey looks pretty good. I'm really feeling his style with the blue and black he got going on. Good stuff!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: geassstudio on January 11, 2018, 11:05:47 AM
I can totally sense of hint of Kingdom Hearts with those Sora like pants lol but good work with Brucey. As far as constructive feedback goes, I think it would look even nicer to lighten up the dark brown splotches on his fur to ensure the line art doesn't get lost cause I really do love the ink work.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 11, 2018, 04:23:29 PM
@Fro: Yeah, a bit of a funny story. My friends and I were joking about my drag persona, and I jokingly said "So would that make his fursona a dog?"--and then it took off from there. That outfit is actually pretty similar to the one I originally performed in. Only thing that's missing is the cyberpunk goggles.

@Geass: Whup, values got me again. I should really probably actually check that kinda stuff by overlaying with greyscale when I put together color palettes...As for the Kingdom Hearts feel, it would make sense considering I've been trying to work on a Kingdom Hearts cosplay show (until Union Cross fudged the timeline and screwed everything up and we had to basically rewrite the rest of the script to accommodate) for a couple of years now. But, also, as I said, I actually own a pair of pants that are similar to that design. This model, (the same ones that I mentioned being the ones I performed in for a drag show) to be exact:


(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/351814056124-0-1/s-l1000.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on January 14, 2018, 04:22:02 PM
Brucey's fashion sense is too damn strong dammit.

I'm more partial to cats, but good stuff Mahlua, good stuff. Love the colouring too! You've really done a jump here, taking things in your own direction. Props.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 14, 2018, 04:29:54 PM
Well, if you like cats, you might be more partial to the hybrid character I'm working on at the moment. There's some about this linework that was confusing and may need some alteration, but come to find out I'm the only weirdo who can stand with my shoulders and hips doing that and be comfortable. Her face still kinda bothers me and I'm hoping once I get her colors in it will make more sense.

She's a tigerfox with a bit of reptile in her. She doesn't know what her dad was, exactly, but her spine starting from the crook in the back of the neck all the way down her tail gave her nice scales. I'll be showing in rear view how that works on the extra canvas space that was cropped away for this.


Enter
Octavia
(https://i.imgur.com/UQxB1vd.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: OviumNoir on January 14, 2018, 04:36:12 PM
Well, if you like cats, you might be more partial to the hybrid character I'm working on at the moment. There's some about this linework that was confusing and may need some alteration, but come to find out I'm the only weirdo who can stand with my shoulders and hips doing that and be comfortable. Her face still kinda bothers me and I'm hoping once I get her colors in it will make more sense.

She's a tigerfox with a bit of reptile in her. She doesn't know what her dad was, exactly, but her spine starting from the crook in the back of the neck all the way down her tail gave her nice scales. I'll be showing in rear view how that works on the extra canvas space that was cropped away for this.


Enter
Octavia
(https://i.imgur.com/UQxB1vd.jpg)

I'm genuinely interested, when it comes to drawing anthropomorphic characters, or just animals in general, where does one learn/get reference from, how long did it take you to grasp, is it easier than drawing humans?

Another question, you like your rough sketches before the sharpened drawing, do you not prefer to do sharper sketches or you feel confident enough to do final inking without much aid - (your way I admire more than mine, so I mean well ! :) Love your work)

I have things to learn from your work. I'll continue waiting for more posts
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on January 14, 2018, 04:45:10 PM
Damn, she looks like a cat with attitude and I dig that much. Tigerfox with reptile. Haha that's really only a concept you've gotta see to believe. It worked out quite well methinks. The thick line art makes it easier to look at. If you're going to polish go ahead, but I like the pose outfit and expression for sure.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 14, 2018, 05:01:27 PM
@Ovium Woah, and here I liked your art a lot and started examining it for things to learn.

To answer your questions, I do like to do a rough sketch layer, and then overlay another sketch layer that's slightly higher opacity that's a little more clean in another color, then I use the slightly cleaner sketch for working on lineart. Most final details I add in lineart, like the seamlines on her pants leg, her claws, and her scales.

For references, I typically look up the animal I'm basing the design on and draw a page full of heads from photo reference. Things like National Geographic and such provide some really nice photography, sometimes with very expressive creatures. It generally takes me at least one full page of heads (typically about a dozen experiments) to get down some of the major proportions in a way that I can apply to original work. Digitigrade legs took a while to understand, but I picked up from a source somewhere that the "extra joint" is more like the human ankle in terms of bone structure, so it helps to think of the animals as walking on the balls of their feet if they are digitigrade. Unguligrade is a step up and usually seen on say, horses, and that's like they're walking on their very tippy-tip toes. There are some animals (such as rabits) that are plantigrade, like humans.

Personally, I find anthro characters a little easier to work with because there's so much about their anatomy that you can exaggerate and work with, whereas with humans, proportions are far more rigid and solidly defined. The variety helps cover for a lot. Besides that, I have a bit of a weakness in drawing human elbows, so when I draw them in anthro, I just throw a tuft of fur there and it's totally fine.

Hope that helps a little, if you're ever interested in working on anthro character designs yourself.

---
@Lego: yes. Much attitude. Her formal occupation is actually stripping, so I hope it carries well. What I'm probably going to do is lay down some quick flat colors and see if the face still bothers me. If it does, then I'll do some minor changes. I think the line width variety is what's getting me--and that it's hard to tell the volume of her face without some of those stripes to imply curves.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on January 14, 2018, 05:10:34 PM
Did you just say... Stripping?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQgXeY_zi4

Well I can't help you there as my art has so many times shown. But there are some nifty things you can do with a line tool and eraser.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 14, 2018, 06:13:07 PM
Yeah, I kinda figured that music video was gonna pop up here sooner or later.

I'll have to take all kinds of things into consideration, especially the weight of different muscles and body parts as for how they fall when upside down and stuff. It's going to be a challenge, but probably a good one to go through.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 14, 2018, 08:00:18 PM
Whoops double post in a day but ayo I finished Octavia's reference sheet, including a full body shot and some sketches along the side to explain some of the slightly harder to see details.

Octavia
Complete
(https://i.imgur.com/i01Zlpg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FBudg6p.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Santa's Little Fro Elf on January 14, 2018, 08:39:34 PM
The fact the she's a stripper makes this picture even more interesting. The face does look a little odd to me though, but overall it still looks good to me!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 14, 2018, 08:46:27 PM
Yeah, her face still looks pretty flat to me. :-\

Glad you enjoy the rest! I hope at some point to be good enough to draw her at work, although that lot would wind up at our lovely sister-site there in my description.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Santa's Little Fro Elf on January 14, 2018, 09:21:24 PM
Speaking of that site, I've been lurking on there for a little while now. You definitely have some "interesting" artwork brewing over there to the say the least. ;)

I've been meaning to make an account for awhile, but even though I want to, there's this part of me that's kinda like  "Can I really get into this?" If you get what I mean.

Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 14, 2018, 09:22:42 PM
No harm done if you sit around and chat if you don't produce any content. What do you think I did over there for like a solid year lmao. I'm amazed the place has been as active as it has lately to be perfectly honest.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 24, 2018, 08:15:04 PM
Oh hey look school is kicking me in the ribs but I finished another of the tarot things and forgot to take any pictures of the process. Yay for cruddy phone cam and lack of effort coming out looking...okay actually. :noidea:

the Empress
bluh
(https://i.imgur.com/xzCuXY4.jpg)

I just wish my red markers were "hot" reds instead of always being "cold" reds like this one. Why do cold reds even exist? They're weird to try to work with unless you're only using it for shading and blending.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Santa's Little Fro Elf on January 25, 2018, 08:53:11 PM
Yaaaaasssssss! More Tarot art!

Another nice one Lua! I'm liking the design. Some of the fingers do look a tad bit long, I guess. Nothing major. The colors in the background also adds a nice touch.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on January 26, 2018, 03:25:37 AM
Ocatvia looks cool! Nice poses
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on January 26, 2018, 06:57:57 AM
You're doing tarot cards?! Haha that's perfect Mahlua. Way too damn fitting especially with what you get up to. For some reason I'm getting an old school cartoon vibe from this. She almost reminds me of Velma from Scooby Doo haha. *Synthmusic starts playing in the background.

Ye say lazy, I say 'energies depleted elsewhere'.

Nicely done Mahlua!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on January 26, 2018, 01:35:34 PM
Thank ye, guys. I'll be at Anthro Crossroads East (a small, upcoming furry/anthro convention in North Carolina) this weekend, so I may be doing a little bit of art stuff there. I hope to finish my friend tarot stuff by the end of the semester so I can give one to everyone before some of them like, leave school or graduate or something. Definitely be on the lookout for that and yell at me if I don't hop to it.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on January 26, 2018, 02:52:37 PM
Noice. A deadline. As for motivation think only upon the eternal shame of not living up to your own promise *darkness intensifies*

Ahem, but yes. Keep at it
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on March 07, 2018, 02:00:17 PM
lol it's spring break and I still haven't done jack. College is hard. :-\
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Santa's Little Fro Elf on March 08, 2018, 08:48:59 PM
Indeed it is, but you gotta do what you gotta do, girl. I would've stayed myself if my school wasn't trying to set me up with their constant student loan shenanigans.

"We can give you a loan to help you out with your current loan, sir."

"Naw fam, I'm good. I'll just get a job."

Hopefully you can get back in your zone after the school work is done with. Looking forward to whatever art you're itching to draw soon.   
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Coryn on March 08, 2018, 10:22:11 PM
Truly, there is nothing like desperately outrunning your student loans. Just got to find that job which pays high enough to pay them off, while going through a program that doesn't cost so much it drowns you first.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on March 09, 2018, 05:22:33 PM
Teaching career does not look super promising. Luckily my roommate is an accounting major, so I asked her to ask her professors how much I would have to make in commissions before it would start to be credible "income" to mark on taxes, and then how to file those particular taxes.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on March 10, 2018, 09:25:58 PM
Oh hey look--stuff! Some of it is actually kinda old, but eh. These are my main three furry characters (I mean there's also Daniel, but he typically gets left behind and winds up being on his own pages) and I was messing around with facial expressions and angles trying to see if I could keep them looking like the same species in different views. Thankfully the answer looks like a yes, and I don't seem to have the typical issue in the furry community of "everything is a dog" art.

Doggo, T-I-double Guh-R, and an Edgehog, a summary.

(https://i.imgur.com/gPku6V7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/epPzP8U.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5JhMikO.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on March 11, 2018, 11:58:34 PM
What's this? More art that's actually relevant to having an art thread? NANI THE F8CK?
Joking aside, I remember that I doodled my main fursona in MSPaint and suddenly had the urge to do a headshot of everyone else to be fair. This may be the first time really seeing Daniel now that his design has more or less settled.


Why am I
 like this?
(https://i.imgur.com/XDTaUeX.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/BTduDv8.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/OAtGNxN.png)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on March 13, 2018, 06:08:24 AM
Some nice animalistic characters!

Daniel looks cool  ;)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on March 13, 2018, 07:36:34 PM
Thanks, mate! He's a wallaby with the coloration/fur pattern of an American badger. Dunno why so many of my characters are hybrids. It just happens.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 14, 2018, 03:26:05 PM
So, as I mentioned before, I am now open to commissions and have set up a gallery on DeviantART (https://mahluaandmilk.deviantart.com/) and FurAffinity (https://www.furaffinity.net/user/mahluaandmilk/).

As always, I am open to sometimes doing random gifts for friends of mine here on the forum or on other social media, and my prices are listed on both sites, but as for here on MangaRaiders, I'll add a few more things to my pricelist:

Cover Illustration: $12

Comic pages:
>Thumbnail: $5
>Inked: $8
>Digitized/Re-inked: varies, starting at $15
>Full color: varies, starting at $15

Just as a disclaimer on the comic pages: I draw out comics on index cards and will likely have to take pictures with my phone before uploading them to an art program and redoing it. That is to say that if you want a clean, digitally polished product, the third and fourth options are your best bet.

I'll be linking this post in my signature to make it easier to find at all times. RIP de Sade quote.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Coryn on May 14, 2018, 04:00:49 PM
RIP de Sade indeed.

I might add a "<-- Click Here" or something, because the link does kinda just look like you made regular text blue.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 14, 2018, 04:07:18 PM
And there had to go the other part of my signature. Oh well. At least it's short and to the point.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Coryn on May 14, 2018, 04:08:36 PM
Was it really that bad? I've used tinyurl to clear up space in the past.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 14, 2018, 04:10:40 PM
Yeah. I don't really mind. The good news is that I accidentally made the colors into my sexuality flag (polysexual). Whoops. I didn't even mean to do it. I'm like "Oh, I always use cornflowerblue for nice, easy on the eyes blue links and magenta was already in there from the line from the birthday massacre, and DeviantART is just green."

Edit: it was upside-down, actually, so I fixed it.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 14, 2018, 06:16:19 PM
Decided that it's about time to start fiddling around with gore/horror themed pieces. It's a lot more challenging than I expected! Back to working those digital muscles. If asked, I can remove the image and replace with the DeviantART link instead.

Just proof that I am, in fact, still doing art and not just obsessively posting old stuff and rearranging myself.


TW: GORE
16+ HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
(https://orig00.deviantart.net/481a/f/2018/134/0/c/gore_practice_by_mahluaandmilk-dcbjgcl.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on May 15, 2018, 03:41:00 AM
Ouch, my guts! Looks painful  :sick:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 16, 2018, 04:05:50 PM
On a much more lighthearted note, I have a friend on FurryAmino who's been going through a bit of a rough time. I had made a character to roleplay with him, but due to our school/work schedules, that didn't quite work out. Anyway, I wound up making him a refsheet for the character so he can go on and have an official design and possibly commission other artists to draw him.

Erik's refsheet
for the_fluffy_wolf4410
(https://img00.deviantart.net/c052/i/2018/136/9/0/erik_refsheet_by_mahluaandmilk-dcbpe83.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 17, 2018, 08:01:41 PM
Fro sent me the deets on a possible MangaRaiders Fighters Division uniform. Being restless and bored out of my skull as I am, I did a quick sketch of them.

MR Fighters Division
Possible Uniform design
(https://orig00.deviantart.net/93de/f/2018/137/9/5/mrfd_by_mahluaandmilk-dcbt3ft.jpg)

They have hoods, although that's kinda hard to see from the front. The purple armband reads MRFD in gold print.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Santa's Little Fro Elf on May 17, 2018, 09:45:36 PM
Psssst! Mahlua... It was supposed to be a surprise!

I'm kidding of course. These look dope! We definitely look like we're about to roll up on spam ninjas while riding motorcycles.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 17, 2018, 09:49:46 PM
Good thing it's under a spoiler tag, amirite?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 18, 2018, 10:41:53 PM
Made myself a refsheet for mah boi.

JUST A HEADS UP TO EVERYONE: KRITA'S TEXT TOOL IS COMPLETE AND TOTAL ASS. I couldn't transform the text, had difficulty editing it, and the size and font don't seem able to change. It literally only comes as is and the size it auto outputs to when you make the textbox. That means you can only start to set the text box based on how tall you want the text to be. Even then, it's a little wonky.


Refsheet for
Bruce
(https://img00.deviantart.net/1486/i/2018/138/1/4/bruce_refsheet_by_mahluaandmilk-dcbwkh5.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on May 20, 2018, 06:34:30 PM
Nice character!

$100 is $100 LOL   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 20, 2018, 07:25:13 PM
Unless you account for taxes and inflation, anyway.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Hasith on May 21, 2018, 10:32:51 AM
Bruce looks great but when it comes to colors Erik looks more alive and better. Maybe it's just the background color.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 21, 2018, 11:22:49 AM
That's a pretty sharp observation there. Erik's colors are a little more saturated on the whole, whereas the only saturated color on Bruce is the blue on his nose, eyes, tongue, and pawpads. Because that blue is so saturated, I was cautious with how saturated I made his furs, because I wanted the blue to pop rather than clash. I suppose it does make him look a little dingy, but at least that suits his character, lol.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Santa's Little Fro Elf on May 21, 2018, 05:23:33 PM
Can you blame Bruce though? It's hard out here in these streets...

Good stuff as always! That color scheme fits him well.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on May 22, 2018, 05:05:34 AM
You really put thought into the character designs there Mahlua. Colour schemes and everything. Hm, If I had Bruces' threads I'd be the talk of the goth underground. Yessss. *Stars searching for similar clothing*

Also, extrapolate on Fighters Division because hell yes. Hahaha dat haughty expression  though

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aZ7BV6-x7ek/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 22, 2018, 07:09:29 PM
I suppose I've always put a lot of thought into it. After all, I have over 100 OCs and even going back through old art I never mix any of them up.

Bruh I have a couple of outfits like that. Considering that he's basically the fursona for my Drag King persona, it makes sense that his clothes are styled slightly after things from my own wardrobe.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: TK-Seki on May 24, 2018, 06:52:56 AM
I see a fursona! :D Nice, nice! And oooh, what's this, I didn't know we had a Fighter's Division!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 24, 2018, 11:10:01 AM
Yeah, I have four fursonas and Fro has been building up a Fighters Division in one of his writing projects for MRverse.

I had a bit of a squabble with my friends last night. For some reason they seem to be under the impression that my art is getting progressively worse instead of better? I did my best to explain that my art never had a solid foundation, so now that I'm exploring fundamentals, it's like working one muscle and not the supporting group; some areas are going to be very weak and prone to mistakes simply because the foundation was never solid. It's not that I'm getting worse, per se, so much as my art is probably going through puberty.

Still, that conversation was a tough one to have (mostly because one of my friends said something along the lines of "You're just mad that I've improved more over the last two years than you"--which, first of all, our styles are too different to make value judgements between and compare, and secondly--what a dick move!)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: TK-Seki on May 24, 2018, 11:16:13 AM
Yeah, I have four fursonas and Fro has been building up a Fighters Division in one of his writing projects for MRverse.

I had a bit of a squabble with my friends last night. For some reason they seem to be under the impression that my art is getting progressively worse instead of better? I did my best to explain that my art never had a solid foundation, so now that I'm exploring fundamentals, it's like working one muscle and not the supporting group; some areas are going to be very weak and prone to mistakes simply because the foundation was never solid. It's not that I'm getting worse, per se, so much as my art is probably going through puberty.

Still, that conversation was a tough one to have (mostly because one of my friends said something along the lines of "You're just mad that I've improved more over the last two years than you"--which, first of all, our styles are too different to make value judgements between and compare, and secondly--what a dick move!)


I have only... two Furs, I guess. XD
Interesting, are they going to be posted as a series here? ^^

Aa, I understand that one. >___< It's tough when you're halfway into evolving your art, where things just go wonky for a while before you adjust. Your friend needs to chill. With a bag of ice cubes. Over their head. Keep working on that art, Mahlua! <3
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on May 24, 2018, 11:17:39 AM
You know it. Pronounce me dead if I ever stop trying.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Coryn on May 24, 2018, 01:53:06 PM
Yeah that's kinda a *censored*ed up thing to say. But hey, that's probably what they told piccasso.

Because really, if all art truly is equal, you should just shut up and keep it to yourself. These things are a sine wave. You go up, you go down. Not every picture is a masterpiece, and if you really are improving fundamentals, then it'll start to show.

Always check one's self before you wreck one's self.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 04, 2018, 03:13:42 AM
Eh I originally posted this on EcchiWorld but it's not super sexualized or anything so it should be safe to post here with our general PG13 air.

Teen Titans Yuri
Collar Tug
(https://pre00.deviantart.net/c59e/th/pre/f/2018/155/c/2/yoink_lol_sketch_by_mahluaandmilk-dcdf7tb.jpg)
Real talk though, Blackfire might have been the dictator of Tamaran for a hot minute, but Raven is Demon Lord of the entire dimension at this rate since she killed big daddy. The idea of Raven just absolutely not taking Blackfire's nonsense is 12/10 hawt.

Of course, this is only the sketch version. I'll give it proper lineart and color eventually because rarepairs are rare and deserve more art.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on June 04, 2018, 05:36:15 AM
good expression on the face. I'm wondering though, the fuzzy lines between the characters, what is that? I cant quite tell if its magic or what :/
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 04, 2018, 12:27:36 PM
Yeah, it's Raven's magic. I get that it's hard to tell because it's usually depicted as like blackfill that dies the outlines underneath it white. I'll be keeping that in mind when coloring.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: devola on June 04, 2018, 09:00:34 PM
Libido powered art, trademark it!  ;D

Great work on this by the way, I think it showcases really well some of the improvements you've made.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 04, 2018, 10:56:03 PM
You think I'm joking but I will make it a thing.

Yeah, I'd like to think the contour stuff from drawabox really shows on the ellipses and the plates of Blackfire's armor.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on June 06, 2018, 06:05:58 AM
How far are you on using drawabox? Loved that place, but never felt satisfied with the first lesson to ever delve deeper into it.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 06, 2018, 03:22:17 PM
I stopped at the lesson about like, cutting shapes and layering them over each other.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on June 08, 2018, 10:32:39 AM
Go teen titans!!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 08, 2018, 02:51:51 PM
Haha, yeah. Hopefully I can start making more stuff soon. I just got out of a bit of a productivity rut.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Santa's Little Fro Elf on June 08, 2018, 07:17:10 PM
Raven is bae, and it’s always nice to see Blackfire getting put in her place (She really rubbed me the wrong way when I was a kid). I approve of this sketch!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 08, 2018, 07:21:21 PM
Wait until I start that fic I'm planning on. Blackfire will get put more than in her face by the time I'm through.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Coryn on June 08, 2018, 11:33:36 PM
Easy killer.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 15, 2018, 10:53:35 PM
I've been working on an art collab with the discord boys the past couple of weeks, and I'm kind of proud of this little color experiment of mine. Slam did the sketch, Flames did the lineart, and as I hinted, I did the color. Something about the skin tone still bothers me a bit. Maybe being surrounded by so much green made it look a little green-ish also (which is weird because I definitely picked it from the oranges and even overlayed it with more red) but whatever. I am now in love with color dodge.

Discord Art Collab
I only did the color!
(https://i.imgur.com/ggpsrsk.jpg)

I think Devola's painting style rubbed off on me. FINALLY, I HAVE OSMOSIS'D SOME SKILL.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on June 16, 2018, 05:39:15 AM
Like it! The skin in the face does look a bit greenish indeed.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 16, 2018, 10:40:31 AM
Guess she's just an alien girl, lol.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on June 16, 2018, 11:27:42 AM
Like Invader Zim lol  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on June 17, 2018, 02:23:45 PM
Noiice colouring there. Haven't touched that in ages so yeah. Do your thing.

Discord collabs sound like a fun deal. Tis is why we have interwebs. Collaborations for days.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 17, 2018, 03:38:01 PM
Yeah, they also taught me to merge my clipping groups when I save from a .kra to a .psd. Apparently the photoshop document unclips my groups so this looked like a hot mess when I sent it as a PSD. Whoops. The more you know, I guess.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on June 18, 2018, 06:29:57 AM
Man I don't even know what clipping groups are haha. Things always got complicated for me with those functions, along with masks and all that. Super useful stuff though.

Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 18, 2018, 02:07:25 PM
Yeah, I used to didn't bother with stuff like that, but now that I'm starting to learn how these tools work, they've started being nice with me to work with.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: OviumNoir on June 19, 2018, 03:19:34 PM
I've been working on an art collab with the discord boys the past couple of weeks, and I'm kind of proud of this little color experiment of mine. Slam did the sketch, Flames did the lineart, and as I hinted, I did the color. Something about the skin tone still bothers me a bit. Maybe being surrounded by so much green made it look a little green-ish also (which is weird because I definitely picked it from the oranges and even overlayed it with more red) but whatever. I am now in love with color dodge.

Discord Art Collab
I only did the color!
(https://i.imgur.com/ggpsrsk.jpg)

I think Devola's painting style rubbed off on me. FINALLY, I HAVE OSMOSIS'D SOME SKILL.

Good poseee good poseee  :sheep:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 19, 2018, 03:41:20 PM
On the pose you can thank SlamJam here on MR. He did the initial sketch. Totally check out his gallery (http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,13819.0.html) for witch girl wholesomeness.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: OviumNoir on June 19, 2018, 05:05:25 PM
Kind of you to pass on the credit. I've spent some time away from here but I remember you now. :) Will remind myself to keep an eye on your progress, Mahlua  :sheep:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 19, 2018, 05:48:20 PM
Thank ye. I'll try to keep up with actually having content to post, lol.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 19, 2018, 08:19:48 PM
Speaking of content, a friend of mine made a facebook status like "Draw me!" and I did so.

here's
Ellie
(https://orig00.deviantart.net/521e/f/2018/170/8/6/ellie_by_mahluaandmilk-dcevff1.png)

You can follow her on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/cosplayingJellyfish/) and Instagram @jellypop_cosplay. She does fantastic work.

And what's this?


Doing fanart of my own MRverse stories
because I'm vain like that
(https://orig00.deviantart.net/8f7f/f/2018/170/a/a/gc_sketch_by_mahluaandmilk-dcevrn7.png)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: OviumNoir on June 20, 2018, 09:10:47 AM
Almost spat my cereal out.
"Corin's a girl?!"

Reads almost legible "Gender bend" at the bottom.

"Oh sh*T" I said.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Coryn on June 20, 2018, 12:14:05 PM
Obviously. Did my feminine wiles not give me away?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 20, 2018, 02:50:36 PM
He has it right there as his tagline under his profile pic: "Secretly a 13 yr old girl".
Got some serious Ash Ketchum stuff going on. You've been 13 for how long now?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Coryn on June 20, 2018, 04:19:20 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT_5ZYPnSshLj4_2soArd972sJxS9Bkt2_UYJReXBvfjWXf-7ex)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Robin Ryuu on June 20, 2018, 04:29:50 PM
I've been working on an art collab with the discord boys the past couple of weeks, and I'm kind of proud of this little color experiment of mine. Slam did the sketch, Flames did the lineart, and as I hinted, I did the color. Something about the skin tone still bothers me a bit. Maybe being surrounded by so much green made it look a little green-ish also (which is weird because I definitely picked it from the oranges and even overlayed it with more red) but whatever. I am now in love with color dodge.

Discord Art Collab
I only did the color!
(https://i.imgur.com/ggpsrsk.jpg)

I think Devola's painting style rubbed off on me. FINALLY, I HAVE OSMOSIS'D SOME SKILL.
Color theory is difficult. I spent the latter half of the spring semester on it and it still tricky. We actually used a fair bit of green on skin, purposely. I do agree though that she looks a little sickly. I would try having the shadows closest to the areas that were colored purple be purple. Most surfaces reflect some color onto the areas around them, especially in shadows where the colors are the most saturated. On that note never use black to darken an area in a colored drawing.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: devola on June 20, 2018, 06:00:08 PM
It's fun drawing your friends isn't it?  ;D

Can't wait to see how the gender bender fan art turns out!

Robins right in the generally, different surfaces will cast different shadows of varying hues. Very rarely will you find a single uniform colour for shadows though this can be done as a stylistic choice. As for skin tones, I usually start generally lighter and closer to orange/red than yellow though this is a personal decision. I think the key to skin and how to make it seem more 3D and alive is temperature. It depends a lot on the actual skin tone (the darker the skin tone, the more orange I use and the lighter the skin tone, the more pink I use) but shading over skin with a warmer temperature colour is generally how I go about handling skin.

Don't forget that you can do some post processing and colour correct things if it seems too green or just leaning to hard into one colour. I do this all the time if I want to make my pictures warmer or cooler. It's a bit lazy but it works!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 20, 2018, 07:07:35 PM
@Robin I've actually never used black to shade with on things that weren't grey or dark brown, and even then, that was when I was younger. It never looked right to me. Even before I touched color theory, I already kind of subconsciously followed the basic rule of using a darker value/different saturation color for shading, and learned a trick about color temperature fairly early in the game (that is, shade warm on cool colors and shade cool on warm colors, depending on the light). I suppose starting with colored pencil helped a lot in that regard. Dev and I had a conversation about that in the Discord chat the other day, actually.

I just hate actually reading anything about fundamentals since I would rather feel them out. Bad news about that is that I absolutely suck when it comes to values. Because of how my brain computes how colors "behave" and interact with one another, I cannot for the life of me start anything in greyscale. It all just looks wrong. I hate it, hate it, hate it. My brain just can't understand colors as values because then I get too ahead of myself and confused since I think so much about that color behavior.

I willingly accept what you've said about colors affecting the way shadows look, though, because that "makes sense" to my color brain. Of course surrounding colors have an impact on other colors nearby. I feel a little stupid for not remembering that. Kind of a lightbulb moment there. Thanks for that.

(Grumbles) still, f*ckin values can f*ck right off...confusing nonsense...(grumble grumble)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 21, 2018, 12:20:54 AM
WIP
in pieces
(https://i.imgur.com/puMJphZ.png)

Lineart is mostly done now. I'm still dying over my American Dragon Jake Long lookin ass hair xD
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on June 21, 2018, 05:47:10 PM
Gawd when was the last time I watched American Dragon. I loved that show, I don't even quite remember how it ended. Though it made me sad for some reason. I need to watch again.

You're great at cleaning up for sure. Keep at it Mahlua! Good outfits too
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 21, 2018, 07:07:22 PM
Simplicity really is the key with outfits. Knowing where seams go is a great second.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Santa's Little Fro Elf on June 21, 2018, 07:46:50 PM
Damn really cleaned that one up I see.  Looks great! And american dragon Jake Long was my ish back in the day. Did Jake even get that girl he liked by the end of it?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 21, 2018, 07:53:59 PM
No idea. I'll come back around to finishing this one eventually, but I'm gonna get back on board with that Ecchiworld story I was up to. It's been sitting there collecting dust for too long now. Besides, I finally figured out how to set up the next phase of it, so that'll be fun.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 26, 2018, 02:39:33 PM
I think I'm finally starting to get the hang of this values thing, even though I have to go about it by picking colors and then checking them in greyscale and making changes as needed. I can also get an idea of what colors to use next to other colors by switching to greyscale and looking at the two adjacent values and picking something contrasting or between them that is still differentiated, and then trying to find a color that will match my goal.

I hope I did everyone a proud. (LegoC's fur is supposed to be green, right? Did I remember that correctly?)


Genderbending Conundrums
Cover
(https://orig00.deviantart.net/9cc1/f/2018/177/d/7/genderbending_conundrums_by_mahluaandmilk-dcfi38u.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Santa's Little Fro Elf on June 26, 2018, 02:48:12 PM
Yeah Lego's fur is green. Maybe a darker green, but that's just how I would imagine it. I know his afro and stuff turns red and whatnot when his other half Legoc takes over his body. But that's just more MRverse nonsense that we don't need to get into.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 26, 2018, 02:59:09 PM
Oh gods, I just realized...the color choices make us look like an LGBT Scooby Doo gang. :ohmy:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on June 26, 2018, 04:33:34 PM
Oh gods, I just realized...the color choices make us look like an LGBT Scooby Doo gang. :ohmy:
I can't unsee that now XD

cool style you've got there though, I'm liking the line variation for the little flicks on the folds etc. cool pockets showing under the shorts for 2nd character. and the clothing details are quite realisticly done too.
both the fully visible hands in the image look a little large though. passable if its your style but if not then watch out :P

glad to know values are working out for you. I just guess wildly for any colour so I've yet to learn that finesse.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 26, 2018, 04:44:41 PM
Yeah. I'm not sure I'll ever get good line weight variation on this computer. If you look closely at the fourth character's hand on the third character's shoulder, you can see how sometimes Krita will freeze and instead of drawing a whole line it will give me a row of dots that's close enough to what I put down. It actually does that a lot. I just didn't bother adjusting that one. Since I don't get to see my stuff "live" sometimes, I've gotten into a nasty habit of going so slowly that I put more pressure and get these ridiculously thick outlines. One of the many reasons I'm starting to hate working digitally...I'll probably never get the control on a tablet and program that I can with just a pigment liner or a ballpoint.

I'm glad the costume designs worked out, but yeah, one of the first major critiques I ever received was that I tend to draw hands a little larger than usual and very "masculine"--even on feminine forms. I guess that works out in Coryn's case here.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MK on June 26, 2018, 05:32:37 PM
I think i know what you are talking about with the row of dots.  I had that before when I was using manga studio.  I've reinstalled my tablet and it seems to work better.  As for line weight variation,  don't worry about it too much (i just make all my lines thick cuz i hate line art)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 26, 2018, 05:37:34 PM
I'm pretty sure updated drivers for this tablet no longer support Windows 7 so haaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MK on June 26, 2018, 05:39:52 PM
I'm pretty sure updated drivers for this tablet no longer support Windows 7so haaaaaaaaaa
Just get 3 pieces of glass and slap it on your computer.  Then you can call it windows 10
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 26, 2018, 05:44:10 PM
Unfortunately I don't think that will work out all that great.

I've thought about switching to traditional after I finish up all my old digital wips. It might help me relax some. Most of them are for Ecchiworld.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 27, 2018, 06:34:13 PM
Did a sketch for said adventures in Ecchiworld. Might come back and draw each of them individually and better later (which will be interesting, considering the entirety of Max's character...)

kemonomimi
babs
(https://i.imgur.com/scmYHyY.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on June 27, 2018, 10:46:37 PM
I like Angus. Great Job!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 27, 2018, 10:50:23 PM
I also love Angus. I had a lot of fun drawing him. I hadn't done a face shape like that before, and I feel pretty successful with it.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Coryn on June 27, 2018, 10:54:45 PM
You did good! It's nice to see some variation in your character design! But even the greats have suffered from the 'same face' problem, but you definitely got through it here!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 27, 2018, 11:26:43 PM
Yeah. I worry that Salem and Savannah might look a little similar but I feel like their personality shine through past it a little so they look different enough. Besides umamimi vs nekomimi...
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Coryn on June 27, 2018, 11:47:23 PM
The hair helps there a lot.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on June 29, 2018, 03:32:28 AM
good job on the animal ears, it can sometimes be a pain to get them looking aligned and right. very nice facial expressions.
Something that on occasion has helped me, which may or may not help you, is using a thinner brush on sketches. obviously on a sketch you don't add a ton of fine details, but when using a thick brush, you can't if you want to very easily.

and as long as you try and avoid same-face(tm) ,you will probably be fine. not everyone looks 100% different to everyone else, so some similarity is expected with some characters.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on June 29, 2018, 08:45:28 AM
Salem chaaaan. Savannah fwaaaaaaaaaaaaaan! Can I kidnap?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on June 29, 2018, 03:59:14 PM
One of you can always try to go through the Tower yourselves.

Or...you can wait and see what the end of Reset does.

Anyway I'm currently working on a larger piece for all the tans but it looks like a hot mess right now so it might take a few days to properly clean up. Legs are hard. Got too used to furries. :-\
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 02, 2018, 10:50:15 PM
Oops. Couldn't do much today. Depression sucks.

Vent Art
CW: old self harm scars
(https://orig00.deviantart.net/624d/f/2018/183/5/b/vent_art_by_mahluaandmilk-dcg4cos.png)

Going back to MSPaint was a good experience. I felt like I could actually just do things, which, on a day like this, is more than I can ask for. :-\
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Santa's Little Fro Elf on July 03, 2018, 12:16:42 AM
Literally me this whole day...

I feel ya sis  :(
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on July 03, 2018, 05:18:05 AM
Going back to MSPaint was a good experience. I felt like I could actually just do things
Simple is best for times like that :)

Good job of depressing me as well, although I was already half-way there. Ganbatte!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on July 03, 2018, 12:02:27 PM
Nice legs, and good anatomy. Would certainly hold  :heart: :heart:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on July 05, 2018, 06:18:20 AM
Lel Walter do you want to start a ship? I think it was self-portraity if I'm not mistaken.

Anyhow the black dog is a bastard. Unfortunately good for inspiration sometimes, and yeah that's MS Paint for yah - low level of start up inertia so you can really go with the flow. This turned out pretty well Mahlua. Has a certain freedom to it (ignoring my bias for mspaint)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on July 06, 2018, 01:01:14 PM
(http://Lel Walter do you want to start a ship? I think it was self-portraity if I'm not mistaken.)

lol mangaraiders dating app when??  :sure:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on July 06, 2018, 05:21:00 PM
lolwut



:/
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 06, 2018, 06:31:08 PM
As they say, there are plenty of fish in the sea, but I'm afraid I'm not currently on the market.

@Suuper:
me: post self portrait thing
walter: would hold
lego: ship?
everyone: wut

Of course something like that would happen in my thread.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Coryn on July 06, 2018, 10:08:00 PM
Yeah, the last thing we need is a MR dating app. The pool is not large enough, and we don't need drama.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 06, 2018, 10:13:06 PM
That just sounds like another Ecchiverse story subplot waiting to happen :sure:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on July 06, 2018, 10:46:29 PM
Coryn I'm appalled, you, the canonmaster. How could you forget about MangameetDotNet?

@Walter you would know more about MR Dating if you listened to our illustrous Science Division Director's seriously helpful radio show, The Nightvvale https://soundcloud.com/coryn-1/wtmr-full (2:20 and beyond)

@Mahlua sorry for the off-topic madness
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 06, 2018, 10:50:07 PM
Hey you're just bumping up the reply count to one of my threads. I can't complain about that. If there's one thing I do have quantity of, it's forum posts.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Coryn on July 06, 2018, 11:19:25 PM
When did I ever say anything about having forgotten anything? I just said it was a terrible idea.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on July 07, 2018, 02:08:36 AM
Quote
http://@Walter you would know more about MR Dating if you listened to our illustrous Science Division Director's seriously helpful radio show, The Nightvvale https://soundcloud.com/coryn-1/wtmr-full (2:20 and beyond)

AHAHAHA that was hilarious.

Coryn's got a cool voice!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 07, 2018, 02:11:47 AM
If I were more creative, I'd use my Soundcloud to do silly voice acting shenanigans for MR too. Don't know why the idea only just occurred to me. Only question would be what board would I put it in? Would it just be an extension of my gallery? (Edit #2: Comics and "Other" Gallery lmfao duh)

Edit: oh my...I could do dramatic readings from MRverse.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Coryn on July 07, 2018, 08:44:59 AM
Don't give me too much credit Walter. I pitched myself down in those in order to differentiate myself as well as 3.0.

Listen to the Happy Hour podcast for my real voice.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 08, 2018, 12:15:14 AM
low key promo for my Ecchiworld story:
the lovely maids
(https://img00.deviantart.net/250e/i/2018/188/c/5/maids_by_mahluaandmilk-dcgl4uq.jpg)

Is this content?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on July 09, 2018, 04:24:32 AM
We are content with your content :P
As you said before, you draw hands and feet quite large, which is becoming an interesting style whether or not by choice :P
Maybe sketch with a higher H pencil, like a 2H or 3H, then go over with a 2B or something to get a sharp line on faint sketch lines. It'll make it easier to scan and digitize as well.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 09, 2018, 05:28:10 AM
That's literally what I do. I sketch in 2h and go over with a regular old HB2. I'm just incredibly light-handed. (In fact, my tablet sensitivity is almost at the highest it can be in order to differentiate my pressure and even function at all.) For some reason, it's always almost been physically painful for me to bare down hard on paper. Not because I'm hurt by it, but because I absolutely hate the feeling of making a deep scratch on the paper. I'm not sure where this distaste even comes from, but to get what I think you're wanting, I'd need about a 4b to outline, and unfortunately I'm out of varied graphite at the moment and only have my 2h because it was a gift from my art teacher in high school.

The other problem is that I do not currently have access to a functioning scanner. At all. No scanner. None. Just a phone camera that eats quality like I eat bad excuses for breakfast. :sure: Comin in hot with that self-degradation.

Seriously if you look close enough I promise you can almost see my 2h sketch lines where their legs are under the skirts and a general guideline for where the eyes fall on the face.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on July 09, 2018, 07:42:36 AM
ahhhh I see, yeah probably want to get used to pressing hard at some point. maybe keeping your pencils permanently sharp will get a darker line without pressing much harder.
maybe trying taking photos with flash? I use my rubbish phone camera for my traditional lately and its great, although I do draw in pen.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 09, 2018, 05:16:19 PM
Nope. Can't do it. Feels gross. Plus the ridges it makes on the paper are a b*tch to erase and try to go over. Not worth it. Can't convince me.

Usually I try to keep flash off because it tends to render some of my lines invisible. Plus my phone camera just isn't good. I don't have one of those fancy HD cameras or whatever--I literally have the same phone I did in high school, before anyone started to gave a crap about posting their food on social media in high definition.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on July 09, 2018, 05:34:57 PM
Plus the ridges it makes on the paper are a b*tch to erase and try to go over.
well you should only be pressing hard on your final lines, so no erasing should be necessary at that point, but i get what you mean.

perhaps i mean just pressing normal as opposed to light, like your writing pressure? even i dont like it when the paper deforms. i havent drawn in pencil for ages, maybe i should try my advice first!

Can't convince me.
fair enough :P
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 09, 2018, 06:08:14 PM
I have to write in pen in order for other people to read it, bud, lmao. Like I said, I'm light-handed.
That said, I do have a multitude of pens and could easily do sketches and outlines in different colors, so that's an idea.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on July 09, 2018, 06:14:31 PM
one advantage of pen is the constant reliable line thickness and no sharpening, but since most pens are permanent you can't erase, so it has its downsides.
indeed, maybe sketching in pen would suit you, since even pressing lightly will give a really light but thin ink line, and a little extra pressure will give a sharp crisp outline.
you can erase the pencil sketchlines afterwards too if you sketch in pencil but outline in ink which is cool, but i haven't done that in years :P
good idea, give it a shot :)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 12, 2018, 08:52:04 AM
Oh look. Gestures and mileage. Good luck understanding literally anything that's happening. The overlap is real.

Is this
content?
(https://i.imgur.com/BXOjlm7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/d0lSNxM.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on July 12, 2018, 08:55:01 AM
You'd be surprised, those are some pretty good figures there Mahlua, love the flow! Dem curves and figures. Really nicely done. Botom and one to the right (with hand on head) are my favourites.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 12, 2018, 10:01:35 AM
Yeah I'll keep working on it. I hope to get out some more content today. I wasn't feeling too great yesterday, but maybe today will be better. Just gotta see if breakfast stays in my stomach.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on July 12, 2018, 12:15:52 PM
Damn you're down with a bug or something? Everyone's getting sick atm it seems...

Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 12, 2018, 02:08:22 PM
It seemed like my body was trying to head that way, yeah, but I guess it cleared up or decided to bug off somewhere else. Either way, praise be to the gods for that. Breakfast successfully managed. Was worried about the tummy ache a bit, but must've just been because frozen food and onion taste. My body is convinced onions are poisonous.

Anyway, I do have a new piece of content, but my phone is going to be a bit because hardware issues and ah...(looks at sketchbook) yeah that's not getting posted here I'm going to Hell. (Update: that has been posted in its rightful rubbish bin.)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on July 13, 2018, 08:21:11 AM
Great variety on the poses
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on July 22, 2018, 02:51:44 PM
really nice flow on those poses. curves are good.
yeah I suffer from overlap in my own pieces as I think on the go, but not when copying as I can place the whole image mentally before I start.
and if its not content, I don't know what is :P
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 28, 2018, 09:10:34 PM
Guess I'll upload this here since they're not super ecchi really. These are just character design finalizations for my story Reset. I haven't even written this far yet, so kinda spoilers for level four, but meh. I'm surprised I was able to draw anything at all today.

Reset spoilers
not that anyone really cares.
(https://img00.deviantart.net/8534/i/2018/209/a/d/reset_level_4__zal_and_jason_by_mahluaandmilk-dcikbgp.jpg)
(https://img00.deviantart.net/57e8/i/2018/209/3/b/reset_level_4__darren_and_tylo_by_mahluaandmilk-dcikbx5.jpg)
(https://img00.deviantart.net/6d53/i/2018/209/7/c/reset_level_4__noel_by_mahluaandmilk-dcikc7u.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on July 29, 2018, 08:31:34 AM
(requoting myself just for consistency)
nice characters. the chest and leg hair is really good on that guy, looks proper wispy and real. I've struggled to get hair like that when I draw. also I think your style is getting pretty decent
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 29, 2018, 09:44:56 AM
Thanks, mate. Just a little light scribbling with a ballpoint pen going with the direction hair would grow turned out pretty fine. As for style overall, are you referring to how I'm messing around with line width for a type of depth/shading? It's certainly evolving, but it'll probably take me a while to get the hang of that.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Coryn on July 29, 2018, 09:46:48 AM
My only comment is that for a werewolf, Darren seems awfully underserved in the body hair department.

Now I'm not suggesting you go full Italian stereotype on him, but in the realm of hairy guys, he's not even overly hairy. I'd at least take that treasure trail up in a tapering motion up the abdominals and stick the point right between his pecs.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 29, 2018, 09:50:21 AM
Fair point xD I probably would have done something similar if I didn't feel like it would've distracted from the linework of the abs.
I didn't draw his back, but now I'm wondering what that would actually look like drawn out. :ohmy:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Coryn on July 29, 2018, 09:59:39 AM
Well back hair is usually some next level stuff. To say both that not only will not everyone get it, but also that it tends to crop up later in life. Fun fact: we never stop getting more body hair. Don't know why, but I can say with absolute certainty that it just keeps coming, and is completely unrelated to head hair loss.

Another fun fact: guys with a whole lot of body hair also tell to go bald early. You can blame both on an overabundance of testosterone. (In case you were ever wondering why your stereotypical bodybuilder mental image is bald, that's why)

So the moral I guess: depends how old he is. If he's getting into middle age, back hair him up.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 29, 2018, 10:11:57 AM
I was thinking a little younger than middle age (mid to late twenties, perhaps), so maybe there is justification for not quite being as hairy as he could be. The solution: "Just give him ten years."
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on July 29, 2018, 10:38:13 AM
for style, I meant line thicknesses are similar and body proportions, while different for each person feel like they fit in the same world. plus the facial expressions and faces are all a very similar style, so they all fit together nicely is what I mean :P
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Santa's Little Fro Elf on July 31, 2018, 09:42:34 PM
The demon and vampire definitely look the most interesting to me out of the bunch. That werewolf is rubbing me the wrong way for obvious reasons that you should know.

Nice work. Looking forward to their appearances in Reset! 
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 31, 2018, 09:45:26 PM
That werewolf is rubbing me the wrong way for obvious reasons that you should know.

So what if my subconscious thinks werewolves are hot? MY CONSCIOUS AGREES.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Santa's Little Fro Elf on July 31, 2018, 09:57:44 PM
I was more so referring to that dream thread of yours on ecchiworld...
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on July 31, 2018, 10:01:43 PM
I was trying to allude to it without directly stating it but yeah I know what you mean. #SorryNotSorry.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on August 09, 2018, 04:00:02 AM
Interesting creatures and characters!  :heart:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: OviumNoir on August 09, 2018, 02:45:41 PM
Guess I'll upload this here since they're not super ecchi really. These are just character design finalizations for my story Reset. I haven't even written this far yet, so kinda spoilers for level four, but meh. I'm surprised I was able to draw anything at all today.

Reset spoilers
not that anyone really cares.
(https://img00.deviantart.net/8534/i/2018/209/a/d/reset_level_4__zal_and_jason_by_mahluaandmilk-dcikbgp.jpg)
(https://img00.deviantart.net/57e8/i/2018/209/3/b/reset_level_4__darren_and_tylo_by_mahluaandmilk-dcikbx5.jpg)
(https://img00.deviantart.net/6d53/i/2018/209/7/c/reset_level_4__noel_by_mahluaandmilk-dcikc7u.jpg)

More sketches/works of Noel, pls ;)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on August 15, 2018, 11:43:40 PM
Yeah Noel is my favourite for too. Good to see ye drawing as usual as well Mahlua. I see that I definitely need to visit ecchiworld more to get the full measure of content from you now...
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on November 30, 2018, 10:33:44 PM
I've been keeping up doing some sketches and warm ups, but most of my sketches lately have been either with my light pencil and my phone camera won't pick up or something on the page is either lewd or spoiler for a thing I'm working on and can't share yet, or both.

But, but but BUT.
I doodled Kingdom Hearts stuff today, and hrk, I was just messing around and somehow this corner of the page turned out way better than I was thinking it would. I can't put my finger on why, but it's really a step above what my art was even just a few months ago. Like??? When did I ever git gud at anything, hahaha?


possible spoiler if you haven't seen the KH3 trailers
and also a little heartbreaking
because I'm just sadistic like that 0u0
(https://i.imgur.com/T2FSRQx.jpg)
Darkness prevails. :heart:
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Echo_River on November 30, 2018, 11:33:42 PM
Nice on the poses there O: It does look pretty cool!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 01, 2018, 01:12:11 AM
Thanks. I tried some more. It looks like I must have absorbed some information. Maybe there is something to Suuper and Lego's 1000s of figure drawings after all, haha. If this is me at level six, I'm in awe of what my level ten will look like. I admit, though, this one was smaller and a little wonkier. But, because it's consistent, I think I'll take it as a sign of growth stabilizing, finally.

Still Kingdom Hearts stuff from newer trailers.
This time with a dash of my sexual frustration.
(https://i.imgur.com/P1wImXi.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on December 01, 2018, 01:55:55 AM
Nice hatching! Looks good.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 01, 2018, 02:12:20 AM
Yeah, it's been a while since I've just used graphite and enjoyed it for all its flexibility. I was actually kind of inspired by a certain artist who was at one point doing a Yoruichi/Soi Fon comic on...DeviantART, maybe? Either way, they seemed to have a really thin pen and made the most beautiful hatching patterns with them I had ever seen. Plus, I mean, YoruSoi. What more could I ask?
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on December 01, 2018, 07:35:47 AM
Quote
Maybe there is something to Suuper and Lego's 1000s of figure drawings after all
Why, yes,  yes there is :)
very nice drawings, although I don't know the characters.
it's great when your art takes a jump forward rather than dragging its heels.
I've noticed the pencils must be quite blunt to get that soft edge, but at the same time it does make the outlines sort of blurry. maybe a sharper 2B/3B might help with making the characters more definite. I think they could definitely use sharpening up around the face especially.
nice job getting all those shades, do you prefer hatching with a pencil instead of shading to an even solid tone/gradient? pencils can look really good with a solid shade so maybe give that a shot, although that's really up to your style.
great job and keep it up :)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 01, 2018, 02:04:20 PM
I tend to prefer hatching probably because I'm so used to working with ink (ballpoint/markers/pigment liners). And, for the record, those were done with a mechanical pencil (as is most of my pencil art). I've heard that there is such a thing as a led sharpener, but I've never seen one. You just kinda get what you get. Because of that, I wouldn't really consider these illustrations proper, because if I wanted to do that, I would outline with something more crisp, like my handy dandy .5mm pigment liner.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on December 01, 2018, 02:25:18 PM
Mechanical pencils are pretty fun to work with, but I always snap the graphite. Always. It's quite sad.

That being said like what you have here Mahlua. Noice ecchi. If you ever want a sharpener try getting the ones that deposit the shavings within it so you don't have to suffer when you toss them away. Otherwise mechanical pencils for life: there are a lot of delicious youtube and piniterest resources that can give you inspiration on pencil work. Look into short animations too on pinterest. Amazing stuff there.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 01, 2018, 02:44:43 PM
I do have a couple of pencil sharpeners around here, but I prefer the ones with the shavings exposed because in my long experience of having gone through about a dozen handheld sharpeners in my life (thick, waxy colored pencils are assholes), they survive the longest, and you can theoretically take them apart and sharpen the sharpener.

I rest my hand on the paper way too much to do pencil effectively. Similarly, I'm just outright horrible with charcoal. And yet, oddly enough, I enjoy working with pastels. I just haven't since high school art class because HRK they be expensive.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on December 01, 2018, 02:49:37 PM
I just got pastels as an early christmas present! They're everything I ever imagined, but now I'm scared of ever finishing them lel. Starvation mentality is strong in me.

Pencil pressure is something crazy important but I've completely lost the art because I've used ink for so long.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 01, 2018, 02:56:26 PM
Pressure is something I have a weirdly difficult-but-not-difficult time with because I'm so lighthanded. I tend to sketch with a 2H pencil and I haven't sharpened it in literally over a year because I'm just that light with it, and it barely shows up on camera. Then, when it comes to HB2 lead, since my default is light lines, I have to apply a lot more force than I think I need to for darker lines, which means that things are not dark unless I tell them to be. Ups and downs: either you can't see it or it's really dark. I think that contributes to some of the fuzziness Suuper pointed out--light lines first, then dark "finished" lines with the edge of the mechanical pencil led for sharpness.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on December 01, 2018, 06:25:21 PM
Yeh I'm already sketchy as-is. So fuzziness is killing me bad.

In other news I got three katanas and a pastel set for christmas. Feeling pretty stoked about that, but I have no idea what constitutes good gifts for other people. Damn.

Also, I'm weirdly getting into rap music on my ace. Just exploring stuff that interests me on my own terms and it's amazing. It's like when I first discovered dubstep and all his friends.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on December 03, 2018, 01:51:11 AM
mechanical pencils are still too difficult for me haha I permanently snap the lead.
ahhh I see what you mean about the undersketches contributing to the fuzyness. Yeah I suppose if you dont ink, then you can't erase those under guidelines.

@Lego go for it and use them pastels up straight away. trust me, there's nothing like having art equipment sitting around for years untouched because you're waiting for "the right moment"

I actually found my pencil pressure to be a lot lighter after using pen since I sketch very lightly with pen to get my guidelines/sketches, so it sort of helped me to press less hard when sketching. but it only lasts a few pages and I adjust back again :P
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 03, 2018, 04:24:47 AM
Mechanical pencils are pretty fun to work with, but I always snap the graphite. Always. It's quite sad.

mechanical pencils are still too difficult for me haha I permanently snap the lead.

Just how far out are you guys putting your lead? And how hard are you pressing? Mine almost never breaks, even when I'm filling in flat black regions. Then again, I only have the lead out maybe one or two clicks of the pen top worth. I see some people with their lead about a quarter of an inch out and I'm wondering if that's you guys, too. If so, no wonder you can't do anything with it. I don't understand why people seem to do that...you can always click more lead out, but it's kind of annoying to push it back in.

If it's not that you guys have your lead sticking out too far then it's probably the angle you're holding it. Mechanical pencils are good at either 90 degree or 45 degree angles. You have to go really easy on it if you're doing a 90 degree angle, though, because the lead digs the paper more than you expect of the pressure you put on it. Also, if you try to hold it flat like you would for using the side of a regular wooden pencil...you're gonna have a bad time, man. Mechanical pencils and their lead are not built for that type of work. I think they were primarily made as writing tools. It's good to keep that in mind when using them.

Because of all that, though, they are fantastic for layering, which you can see on the front figure's clothing in the different hatching directions.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on December 03, 2018, 05:50:08 AM
at least in my case, I'm holding the pencil quite flat on the page, so it hits the rim of the pencil that holds the lead in place, so I have to push out more so it reaches the paper. Funny tho because I hold pen almost upright, but I don't with pencil....
so yeah, not fun haha.

I'll have to have another shot sometime and see if it's still a problem for me since I haven't used one for ages now. thanks for the tips :)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 04, 2018, 02:01:25 AM
I guess I'll actually jump on the 1,000 figures bandwagon, but exclusively for skateboarding stuff, because I want people interacting with objects and dynamic poses to be a focus. I figure it's a good enough way to humor myself.

figure count:
13/100
(https://i.imgur.com/Zr36D6i.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on December 04, 2018, 02:36:42 AM
that's a good objective for your focused study, and great to have another Raider on board with the 1000x regime. Looking great so far, especially since it's male figures which I can't and don't ever draw :P
keep it up!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on December 04, 2018, 07:40:50 PM
Join us... Into the derp side.

Seriously stoked at those figures Mahlua. Don't see nearly enough stuff drawn from you anyways so all this at once is pretty special. Also hell yeah 1000 regimens. Best of luck. Remember: The best moments are when you don't even care about doing it anymore and just want to finish lel.

As for mechanical pencils I know logically what makes my lead snap but over time when I get in the zone it just happens. I'll dig through my drawer again and try a mechanical pencil one last time, but I'm still skeptical.

Actually I'm skeptical about pencils all across the board these days. Damn things are smudging everything for days.

Nice to see you drawing for sure though. Keep at it!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on December 04, 2018, 10:56:32 PM
The skating ones on the bottom look awesome!!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 05, 2018, 07:07:36 PM
So I might not go the full 1,000 route just yet, but I will go for 100. It's a little bit more manageable and less intimidating, I think.

The shapes are definitely starting to come to me a little easier, but I don't think I'm quite ready to start doing these from imagination yet, so as I wrote on the paper, these are copied. I'm having fun reading through the magazine as I sketch the figures, lol.


today's sketches
figures done: 30/100
(https://i.imgur.com/emWaO4c.jpg)
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: devola on December 06, 2018, 05:49:14 AM
Oh man more people doing this 1000 sketches challenge, I don't know if I have the stamina to keep up with you guys. It's motivating though seeing all of you push through this trial, maybe I'll do a 100 sketches or something myself
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on December 06, 2018, 11:45:08 AM
I only managed to do my figures from my head because of the insane amount of copying that I had done previously. One time I tried before to draw figures from my mind and I couldn't get past a single page of like 7 poses.
So I'm sure later on it will become easier.
well 100 is still a good target. looking good so far!

@devola DO IT!
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: MahluaandEggnog on December 06, 2018, 11:55:21 AM
I'm thinking I might still wind up doing 1,000 figures, but it'll be sets of one hundred and they'll each be doing something different, like sitting, working out, playing guitar, walking, fighting, and other various things that inevitably an artist will need to draw people doing at some point. I look forward to ones where figures are interacting with objects and other figures. It seems like a challenge appropriate for my level.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: yulemaestro on December 06, 2018, 03:51:35 PM
Magazines are a goldmine for references. I actually reference heavily when I'm too tired to think up something new. It's why my hand drawings went so smoothly: I could truly in any situation just pick up a pen and paper and draw. It's important to reduce the activation energy required to start your regimen to be able to go at it so references and stuff are really recommended.

And 100 is cool. Do what works for you.

18 and 27 are my favourites

@devola you know you want to. Do eeet
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: Walter B on December 07, 2018, 12:47:08 PM
My fav picks: 29 is quite dynamic. 19 and 22 look quite good also.
Title: Re: Mahlua's Lair of Drawings n' Stuff
Post by: suuper-san on December 08, 2018, 08:27:16 AM
@Lego activation energy is the thing I'm working on at the moment. Splitting my work into progressive WIPs helps in that regard as I only have to move the piece forward one step.

@Mahlua 10 sets of 100 is a great idea as you can explore each theme really well. I just did random poses but often each page had poses with a similar theme like sitting or running or something. hopefully at the end you'll have some pieces that you want to finish properly.