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Title: Japanese school-life help
Post by: GingerStark on March 16, 2014, 08:44:37 AM
So I'm currently attempting to write a story, and I need some help. How do Japanese high-schools (and culture) work?

I know that they start the academic year in March (I think) and have the same teacher for most of their lessons, but is there anything else that's distinct about them? I hardly know how High-schools work in general because they don't exist in the UK...

Any help would be appreciated!  :dance:
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Vacant on March 16, 2014, 09:08:00 AM
One thing I derive from watching Anime and Manga is that an after school club seems to be very important to Japanese students :P
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: GingerStark on March 16, 2014, 09:12:52 AM
Ahhh, interesting  :hmm: I assume they have similar clubs to Western countries? (Chess, Sports, Books)
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Coryn on March 16, 2014, 10:20:07 AM
I should imagine so. Probably anything you can base a club around.

though remember I think pretty much everyone here is taking their knowledge from anime, so let's assume it's fallible. if you've ever watched a western high school movie you know it's not really so much like the real thing. so it only makes sense that the japanese would do it too.
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: GingerStark on March 16, 2014, 11:04:36 AM
That's a good point  :ohmy: And I suppose trying to be realistic with it all is a rather big task that's bound to have mistakes  ::)
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Rojas on March 16, 2014, 11:13:01 AM
Considering we don't live there, yes it probably will have mistakes. It would take a lot of research just to learn their about school and then on top of that their customs of living. You'd have to pretty much almost go their and attend the school yourself. It's a lot of work, but it's do-able.
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: GingerStark on March 16, 2014, 11:15:24 AM
Hmmm, I suppose it's just a trail and error thing  :unsure:
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Rojas on March 16, 2014, 11:49:35 AM
Yeah, just trying and then fixing~ I'm sure you can handle it.
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Lumaria on March 16, 2014, 12:03:17 PM
there are no janitors. usually the students or teachers do the cleaning.
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: GingerStark on March 16, 2014, 12:15:21 PM
Rojas: It's all the process of becoming a better writer, right?  :thumbsup:

Lorenx: That's interesting... Info like that is what I'm looking for!
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Lumaria on March 16, 2014, 12:42:40 PM
classes usually start in april, which depending on where the school takes place cherry blossoms bloom around march and or april. which is why some entry cerenomies have cherry blossoms blooming.

ALso in japan, there are no lockers (well not like in the US or EU) they have small lockers and are usually to store your shoes and use the other shoes appropriate for walking in (just like in a japanese home).
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: GingerStark on March 16, 2014, 12:54:31 PM
Hmm, right in the middle of Spring :hmm: That's an interesting setting...

Lockers I don't need to worry about, they don't have them in the UK either (At least I don't think they do)

Does anyone know if they go to school on the weekends or are they generally free?
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Lumaria on March 16, 2014, 12:59:54 PM
Hmm, right in the middle of Spring :hmm: That's an interesting setting...

Lockers I don't need to worry about, they don't have them in the UK either (At least I don't think they do)

Does anyone know if they go to school on the weekends or are they generally free?
I wouldn't know about weekend classes. but....i dont think so.
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Rojas on March 16, 2014, 01:52:50 PM
Wow see, if I learned anything about the culture in my life it had to be what Lorenx1 has been saying. xD I know nothing about the culture.
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: GingerStark on March 25, 2014, 05:06:37 PM
Does anyone know what food they eat in japan? Aside from sushi  :tongue:
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Coryn on March 25, 2014, 05:23:59 PM
well, white rice is a pretty standard side dish. you'll also have grilled fish. croquettes. chicken, hot dogs even.

so bunches of stuff really. we live in a global society, so of course there will be some over lap. even in japan you'll find mc'donalds, kfc, and pizza hut. everybody likes pizza right?

if you really want to get into it you can look into foodie culture. sure you'll find lots of interesting things. a quick google brought me to this site though. seems promising

http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e620.html
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: KagePen on March 25, 2014, 05:33:43 PM
HAH! Found this f**king topic, have no clue how it hid from me.

Anyway, some things I'd like to point out: I read a manga once where a character was a Janitor who took care of the yards and other stuff. I know that students are required to clean classes but I doubt they clean the bathrooms so I think they do have Janitors :l just a thought.

Umm, when looking up info on Teacher jobs in Japan I found out that most schools are 6 days a week and some even 7 days.

Food consists of rice with everything xD But seriously, almost everything is accompanied by rice, rice and food are literally the same word (gohan). In the mornings it has become very common for families to have a rather western breakfast (bacon, fried eggs, sausage, toast, etc.) But they usually have Miso soup with rice, though that is mostly a side dish. At lunch you'll see a ton of BENTOU!!=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE3gNUBqfG8  (http://BENTOU!!=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE3gNUBqfG8) Basically a box fulled with very pweddy delicious tweets ;3 Bento aside, it's common for students to get some yummy ramen or yakisoba at the schools cafeteria (if one is provided that is). MacDonalds is very popular and ramen restaurants are so popular they have a massive museum just for ramen stalls. It's crazy indeed. Supper I am not too sure about but I'm sure it has lots of fish, loooooots of fish, and sake L:

I know that in most Japanese schools the teacher is the one who goes to different classes for lessons rather than students and their offices are not in classes but in staff rooms.

Leaving school and starting work after middle school is aloud but apparently most Japanese go on to finish High School and many go on to University.

Sleeping in class is looked at differently from other cultures, you actually get respected because it is a sign you are working hard. Most people even sleep on trains and such, there was a huge news article about it the other day in my newspaper, it included like 30 pictures too xD

Cram school is very common.

I am going to become a substitute teacher in Japan in the near future (maybe even next year) for up to two years, so if you're still working on this story then I'll be sure to give you more advice :smile: Ganbatte!! ^.^
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Vacant on March 25, 2014, 06:50:59 PM
Public Japanese elementary and middle schools are closed on national holidays. Students used to have to attend on saturdays but now they are free on the weekends apparently.

They have three have three terms at most schools, summer vacation covers the the end of July to the end of August. Winter and spring vacation both last around 10 days, from just after Christmas usually to the second week in January. While spring is the last week in March. The new school year starts in April, at the end of spring vacation.

The classes consist of around 40-45 students and most classes have a class president. What I found is quite different in japanese and western schools is that the teachers are the ones who move from room to room for lessons and not the students. So students spend most of the time in the same room each day.

They also have lots of culture days and festivals and spend days preparing for them, which I always thought was a anime cliche but is apparently true :P

Anyway's hope some of this info assists you dude! :)
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Lumaria on March 25, 2014, 10:09:35 PM
janitors working outside arent janitors. even then teachers also do some ceaning. also...this doesnt apply to every school but in public schools it does. private schools are iffy.

my knowledge is also iffy on elementary and middle schools.
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: GingerStark on March 26, 2014, 05:51:31 AM
Thanks for the help so far guys, it's been a great assess to my writing  :thumbsup: We're also learning cultural differences in psychology lessons now so I've got a double whammy of information to go on!
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Lumaria on March 26, 2014, 06:18:03 AM
Also on the topic of food. it varies per student, but just look up common lunches. I have yet to see a public school cafeteria that serves lunch in an anime yet, but i'm sure they would have one. i suggest looking up information on what cafteria's serve usually "if they exist in public high schools"
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Coryn on March 26, 2014, 09:44:54 AM
Well in some animes they have like a sort of concessions stand? serving like those prepackaged subs or whatever.
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: GingerStark on March 26, 2014, 05:56:06 PM
Hmmm, I think I recall most students bringing in their lunch which they then eat during break times in the class itself as opposed to the playground.

Now what about entertainment? Do Japanese love going clubbing and drinking, do they prefer sticking to more homely events like TV and meeting family or are they pretty similar to American/English culture?
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Lumaria on March 26, 2014, 06:03:30 PM
its hard to say, it depends on the student, bu ti dont think their that wild.
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Vacant on March 26, 2014, 06:25:04 PM
Japanese students dedicate a lot more time to their studies than us english do :P I read somewhere that after school, the average student spends a couple of hours doing homework each weekday!!! I would guess that doing all that would want them to blow of a little steam, but I think they're a tad more reserved, particularly in high school. I'm sure they would do similar activities, watch tv, listen to music, hang out with friends in their spare time.

One more interesting note I learned that teenage dating is apparently highly discouraged by teachers and parents. The majority of Japanese students don't start seriously dating till near the end or after high school!
 
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: GingerStark on March 26, 2014, 06:29:57 PM
Ah, much different over here then... makes you wonder how'd they'd react to a teenage pregnancy!  :ohmy:

Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Vacant on March 26, 2014, 06:37:30 PM
very different, but they don't have the drug abuse that is rife in western teen culture either. Perhaps they just have better or stricter policing of that kind of thing, I suppose, which is a plus for them.
 
I don't think it would go down too well. Japanese people are quite career focused, this is implemented from a young age and having a child would obviously pose a problem to this mindset, so the teen pregnancy rates would be a lot lower there than here in the UK or the US. Guess there's no Japanese version of Jeremy Kyle then? :P
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: GingerStark on March 26, 2014, 06:49:00 PM
Haha! No 16 & pregnant either... I bet it'll be replaced with 36, married and financially stable! XD

It's good that they have that discipline, like well oiled cogs for a big machine. Perhaps they might be more susceptible to conformity however?
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Vacant on March 26, 2014, 07:03:09 PM
Well it's a different culture to ourselves in that respect. Over here, If you are not part of an instantly distinguishable group and stand out from the crowd, it can be viewed as cool. People like to be told they aren't one of the crowd, we brand people as sheep in a derogatory fashion, in general we like to be unique.

Over in Japan, it's a bit different, people don't want to attract unwarranted attention to themselves and generally prefer to just fit in. That's not to say there aren't individuals who do love being the black sheep though, especially the younger generation who strive to be different more so than ever at the moment.

Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: GingerStark on March 27, 2014, 06:27:16 AM
Hmmm, good point you make there. It's a. Interesting difference between community based and individualistic cultures.
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: KagePen on March 27, 2014, 08:23:14 AM
If you take a look at what kind of music is popular you'll see they ain't the party animal type. I have seen in a lot of slice of life manga/anime that school students usually go in groups to places like starbucks or macdonalds after school. Adults focus more on their careers and women who are stay-at-home moms dedicate their time to their children (even go to classes that teach them how to help their children study for exams)

As for love in Japan, I think you'll find this bizarre documentary quite interesting (or shocking):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpZbu7J7UL4
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: GingerStark on March 27, 2014, 08:36:17 AM
Jesus christ, that documentry is rather shocking!  :ohmy: I can see why the socially awkward protagonist is common in anime/manga. I would have thought for a polite and disciplined culture, they'd be less... focused on sex  :unsure: How do you even raise kids in that enviroment???
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Lumaria on March 27, 2014, 08:46:36 AM
yup, the birth rate issue in japan is real. and i feel the men are partly to blame. although....i can't say the women aren't right either.


but despite that, that doesn't mean your story has to focus on those aspects. they still have stories focused on romance, and those are fairly popular.
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: KagePen on March 27, 2014, 08:54:24 AM
I don't think it's that bad everywhere in Japan, only in certain areas like Tokyo's famous Red Light district.

Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: GingerStark on March 27, 2014, 08:57:40 AM
If I focused on this, I think I might go into depression... anyways, like KagePen said, not all of Japan is like that. You can't say Texas is the same as Washington because it's in America. Anyways, does provide fascinating insight into how some parts of Japan work. Cheers for that Kagey  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Lumaria on March 27, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Hah.....i actually do consider washington and texas to resemble eachother.
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: GingerStark on March 27, 2014, 09:16:11 AM
But...but... Aren't they opposite sides of the country?  :noidea:
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: KagePen on March 27, 2014, 09:43:55 AM
No problemo, I got more for you if you want, just ask and I'll PM you.

Hmm, maybe you should of used an example that was more close to home xD
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: GingerStark on March 27, 2014, 09:49:27 AM
Cool, will do amigo!

Another example? Essex compared to an a welsh village then :3
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Lumaria on March 27, 2014, 10:19:10 AM
Son/daughter and parent treat eachother a bit more maturely at tthe older ages. In asia including japan parents pay their kids rent. Sometimes in manga you see kids living on their own but that's because their parents are paying for it.
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: GingerStark on March 28, 2014, 06:01:35 PM
Lorenx: I know quite a few Asians who do that over here, although I swear it's illegal to live alone under the age of 18... Interesting either way.

Everyone: So something that crossed my mind when watching anime; those bathing springs or spa or whatever it's called... do they really just go in wearing nothing but a towel and talk casually to one another?? I also assume that it's also segregated to men and women too.
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Vacant on March 28, 2014, 06:11:42 PM
An Onsen? Traditionally you go in butt naked dude! Yeah they are generally sectioned for men and women, although there are some, the older ones typically, that are shared gender.  In some you can wear bathing suits if you wish to, but it's only a select few modern Onsen that allow this. There is some etiquette to be observed when bathing, such as showering before entering the Water and keeping the noise down. Also, a lot of places have ban's on people with Tattoo's too!
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Lumaria on March 28, 2014, 10:48:41 PM
I dont think they talk to random ppl, but i guess their comfortable enough that they happen to have small talk. remember this also happens in western shows too.
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: GingerStark on March 30, 2014, 07:03:54 PM
Man, I always thought it was over-exagerated in the animes, but if peeps go chatting in them then that's just more stuff to work from  :dance:

Right, I'm not trying to sound stereotyped here but they do have weird TV shows. I watched some weird one where a hypnotist made a woman think she was having a fit. Another one where they were trying to promote banannas (I think?) and it just had some flying bananna dude shooting the food items out of his nostrils. This really contrasts their news channel (Which we can watch on TV over here) because that's more like an educational documentry on their way of life (Festivals, building projects)
So peeps, tell me about your encounter with Japanese TV  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Japanese school-life help
Post by: Vacant on June 21, 2014, 06:56:16 PM
Thought I'd post this here save starting a new thread since I've been doing a fair bit of research on Japanese Schools the past couple of weeks. Even though this site is for kids, I found it contained some pretty handy info. I'd recommend giving it a look if you're wanting to learn a bit more about Japanese Schools and their inner workings.

http://web-japan.org/kidsweb/faq/life02.html (http://web-japan.org/kidsweb/faq/life02.html)