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stuck at a crossroad
« on: July 14, 2019, 03:41:13 AM »
Ok, I'm writing a current arc within my story and I'm kind of stuck on what I should do next. the part I'm stuck on is basically near the conclusion of this arc. I'll try to give details before giving you the part I'm stuck on.
So the arc starts with my MC needing a new arm after losing his within the climax of the previous arc, and my MC has basically been on a losing streak lol
So he, along with another member of his division and his childhood robot friend head out to another country, a city within this country that is known for their advanced robotic parts. they are also escorted by three other agents, one of which is from the town that they are heading to.
they all get on the train and head straight there, the town is called Astalo and it is surrounded by mountains and in a snow covered environment, Train is the best and safest course of travel to get to Astalo.
Once they arrive there, Jax (the agent from Astalo) is greeted by his hometown friends and basically given a bit of a backstory of Jax as well as a tourist guide of the city of Astalo. my MC also meets two other agents who are stationed at Astalo and currently on an unrelated mission of their own, the two agents who are on a mission within Astalo already are also familiar with our MC's captain, but are devastated by the news that she didn't make it from the previous arc.
after purchasing an arm, the MC meets with one of the two agents again who didn't leave off on good terms, and who wants to apologize, but knowing really no true way of doing so, they instead talk about the mission that they are currently on within Astalo
The Mission is a massive amount of people have gone missing near Astalo by the northern mountains, where the main tourist attraction (Ski Lodge) used to be located but now vacant because of the disappearances. they were to scout the area of Astalo and soon head to the mountain, but they soon realized that the trek to the northern mountain and what's left of the ski lodge wasn't a mission for two people. the MC, knowing they need more people, willingly joins along with everyone else who was brought here, all don't join as willingly as the MC, and they head to start their trek.
before they officially do so, they are confronted by a droid who knows nothing more than one word: Danger. they dispel of this threat but are taken back by the fact that they were attacked by something that was made for human companionship and hardship. they suspect something much more malicious is happening further to the northern mountains.
after their first debacle, they are approached multiple times by different and more threatening droids, until eventually the threat grows to strong for just there group. they eventually call for backup.
once backup arrives, they decide to head to the source of their unfriendly droids and investigate.
they do so, but miserably fail, but not completely as they still came out with some clues as well as one huge lead.
I'm just going to fast forward as I'm getting vaguer by the second, but the Main Villain is the leader of the droid colony and his main goal was to Destroy the Human Race for reasons of objectivity (even though deep down it's also a form of revenge as well). big bad war happens, tables turn multiple times, twists happen, etc. The King is defeated, willingly, and not killed. he has accepted his death already but was ultimately saved, now almost everyone is on the same page, and one of them is trying their best to save the King before it is too late, so the moment I'm at is the person who is trying to save King has finally brought him to the repair station to get the repairs he needs before he dies, I was wondering should I keep him alive? (King is OP if he actually tries btw) and maybe degrees him (possibly or keep him at 100) or should I just kill him at that last second, not sure as both are huge for the rest of the story even after the arc is over.

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Re: stuck at a crossroad
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2019, 12:04:43 PM »
Hmm... Well, the way this King character is introduced, it definitely sounds like death is more fitting from a karmic point of view. If he's been up there killing people for a while, then it feels like it will be hard for the audience to accept him just making it through everything.

I guess the difference lies in how willing you are to write a redemption arc for him. Cause as it stands, if you just leave him to wallow around, then saving his life definitely seems like the wrong idea.

Another note to touch on I guess, is that if he's so OP that it would cause a problem, then you gotta power him down until he isn't. Otherwise you run the risk of writing yourself into a corner.

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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2019, 04:12:12 PM »
Hmm... Well, the way this King character is introduced, it definitely sounds like death is more fitting from a karmic point of view. If he's been up there killing people for a while, then it feels like it will be hard for the audience to accept him just making it through everything.

I guess the difference lies in how willing you are to write a redemption arc for him. Cause as it stands, if you just leave him to wallow around, then saving his life definitely seems like the wrong idea.

Another note to touch on I guess, is that if he's so OP that it would cause a problem, then you gotta power him down until he isn't. Otherwise you run the risk of writing yourself into a corner.

Yeah, that was my issue, but with him as a character, he's already started his so called redemption arc. So his creator is also an important character in the backdrop of the story, and I should've just explained the character analysis of the king for a better understanding of his character. well, his creator created him and basically they had a built up bond as if the King were a son to the creator (the creator is also the real Father to the MC). the creator dies during this huge battle within the climax of the arc by the hands of one of the King's subordinates, the MC's group goes to save someone that was imprisoned with the creator who was captured during their epic fail with their infiltration mission before the battle. this also gives the MC and the Creator a bit of an awkward and touching reunion. but the Subordinate, not knowing the true significance the creator holds to the king since, he like every other subordinate, is under the assumption that the King hates the human race when in actuality, he only really has a deep hate for the human race because of the hardships that the Creator faced through his experience with humanity, which is insisted but not directly told to the reader. so, once the creator dies, the king sort of has an epiphany, so does the MC, both kind of stuck at their own personal crossroad (ha! the name of the title to this post.) the King, no longer has that personal drive to finish his goal, as his true purpose was for him to finish this goal and for his creator to witness his so called greatness so to speak. the King, now realizes that he was wrong, but he had to lose the life of the only person he truly cared for to truly understand that he was wrong. the King, now enlightened, goes back to the battle after brutally killing the droid responsible for the creators death in a blank state of rage, with the full intention of dying, which he believes is the only correct punishment (Fate) for his past actions, basically allows himself to be killed. but after being delivered the fatal blow, he still survives, and one of the characters believes in the potential of the King after sort of witnessing that the king isn't the monster he witnessed earlier in the arc (in the messy infiltration) and now tries to save the King even though the King wants to die. the King, now fully witnessing the beauty of the irony (he had fully hated humanity, the very race that now does not allow him to die) accepts humanity to save him. now, after the dire race to repair him, should I just let him die right there at the repair station or like I said digress him a bit after his life saving repairs, which wouldn't necessarily make him OP but still strong, the repair parts would be from much lower ranking droid scraps.

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Re: stuck at a crossroad
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2019, 11:05:46 PM »
Well, yeah I think that's your answer then. Do a partial rebuild on him so that he's more in line with the other characters. You definitely seem to be pulling more towards keeping him alive too. My advice is to trust your gut on that kind of thing. Obviously you don't want to create a story where no one is allowed to die and the stakes just go out the window, but that balance is for you to decide. Save those who need the saving, let the others go. Let the characters serve their purpose, whatever that may be. Let them reach their destiny.

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Re: stuck at a crossroad
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2019, 11:10:20 PM »
Well, yeah I think that's your answer then. Do a partial rebuild on him so that he's more in line with the other characters. You definitely seem to be pulling more towards keeping him alive too. My advice is to trust your gut on that kind of thing. Obviously you don't want to create a story where no one is allowed to die and the stakes just go out the window, but that balance is for you to decide. Save those who need the saving, let the others go. Let the characters serve their purpose, whatever that may be. Let them reach their destiny.

thanks, that was actually pretty well put together how you said that

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Re: stuck at a crossroad
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2019, 01:01:14 AM »
I wrapped up the arc and finished it with a total of 99 Chapters written, my longest written arc so far.

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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2019, 07:32:53 AM »
That is loooooong. How many words does that translate to?

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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2019, 11:49:42 PM »
That is loooooong. How many words does that translate to?
lmaoo idek tbh, I divide the chapters and I usually have 5-6 pages per chapter so it's a lot

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Re: stuck at a crossroad
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2019, 01:59:46 PM »
What program are you using to write with? They'll usually have a word counter easily accessible.

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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2019, 02:48:28 AM »
What program are you using to write with? They'll usually have a word counter easily accessible.
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they do, it's just I have each chapter in a separate doc, so I'll have to do a lot to word count the entire 99 chapters separately

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Re: stuck at a crossroad
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2019, 08:49:38 AM »
Hey Viking are you good now and Coryn can you check out my thread

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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2019, 09:50:01 AM »
Have a little patience evand. I get you're anxious to have people look into your thread, but there's no need to crash into someone else's topic to promote it.

I will try and give it a look this weekend.

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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2019, 07:03:08 PM »
Hey Viking are you good now and Coryn can you check out my thread
yeah I'm good, I solved the problem I had

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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2019, 07:16:38 PM »
Yeah Coryn last time I had patience no one bothered to look at my thread I was being ghosted. But I can try to have patience, I hope to hear from you http://forums.mangaraiders.com/index.php/topic,19556.msg301266/topicseen.html#msg301266

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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2019, 07:17:58 PM »
Hey Viking are you good now and Coryn can you check out my thread
yeah I'm good, I solved the problem I had

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